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My friends on XDA2 reseller said that the hardware quality of newer XDA2 on the market is lower than previous...it was a missproduct
especially XDA2 with ROM 1.66.165 and bootloader 1.06, it had bad case, bad display and bad ROM chip that can cause restarting/resetting, causing XDA2 coma that require hard resetting...
HTC taiwan realized that XDA2 era will come to an end soon, and they wouldn't like to spent lot of bucks for XDA2 anymore, so, there is a bad quality of XDA2 hardware (LCD,ROM chips,CASE,etc), let us know, their focus is now on XDA3.
and, the ROM 1.66.65 was never on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaExtromVersions lists
There's lot of people complaining and frustating about their XDA2 (1.66.165)
My second XDA2 is 1.66.165 ROM, it restarts many2 times, hard reset once (buy it for 3 days)...upgraded it to 1.72.126, the problem still remains, it was very bad bad product compared to my first XDA2 with rom 1.60.44
My new XDA2 as compared to my old one:
- The screen is bit brighter and a yellowish screen seen from left angle.
- My 3 days old XDA already had loose battery cover??
- The ROM chip is the main reason for our XDA2 to be randomly locked up.
The conclusion:
wake up guys! it was a hardware failure...not the ROM...
newer XDA II
Hi, Friend.
Kasihan deh lu !!!
My sugesstion : back to vendor, or sell it !!!!!
is there someone who have same problem ????, please posting here......
thank's
I'm not selling it yet, there's no alternative choice right now...
XDA2 > XDA = impossible
XDA2 > HP6300 = nah...
XDA2 > etenP300B = nope
XDA2 > SE P910 = not interested
XDA2 > Nokia 3310 = sounds interesting...LOL
Sell your XDA2, get the cheapest phone, wait for next PDAphone line up...
NO
NO !!
i very very love my XDA II.
My XDA II is the best PDA Phone in the World !!!. (bootloader 1.03, bought in april 04).
XDA II > XDA III -> i will never buy (very very not interesting)
XDA II > NOKIA comm. 9500 -> may be ?
XDA IV > XDA II -> i will buy (very very interesting)
I miss my first XDA, bootloader 1.03 ROM 1.52.00 hicks...
O2 XDAII
Darkcell I've buyed the XDA last month and had the same Rom like yours.
Never had, until now, the problems that you have. (Don't talk so loud Murphy is listening... ;-))
I flashed it to 1.72.00WWE with cooked ExtRom.
My suggestion is back to vendor for replacement... :x :x :x
I've flashed my XDA ROM, Reseller in my country wouldn't replace it...no use... :roll:
I'm wondering, how did HTC get these 'bad' parts ? You think they did extra shopping to find a worse part an d probably cheaper ?
I really don't believe it.
Like most things, getting the parts fast is a lot cheaper then getting bad, cheap parts...
Like the Intel CPU's, they don't setup the productionline for 1200, 1400, 1600 etc MHz. They just make a lot of CPU's, then test them at 1600.
If their stable it's a 1600Mhz. If it isn't, it's tested at 1400, if its stable, it's a 1400Mhz. If its not, it's tested at 1200, if it's stable it's a 1200Mhz.
If it's is not...... etc etc etc etc....
I didn't think and say that they did extra shopping to find a worse part an d probably cheaper, I said that the newer XDA2 products worse than previous...
XDA II Coma
Evening peeps, just adding my 2 pennies worth with the newer XDA 2, i have indeed experenced "coma" like symptoms which for some strange reason can only be corrected with a hard reset. Its most odd and usually happens when im doing somthing. I dont know if the OS is abled to be debugged so i cant say anything more spacific, It may be totally unrelated and i havent searched here if anyone else has had this issue to please forgive me if i am repeating something old, anyhow, i also seem to get audio issues in that the sound turns off, im unable to turn sound on or increase volume, vibrate does not work either, its like the "coma" cept it only effects sound
dazza, what ROM do u have?
darkcell is 100$ right...
not only an xda issue..
it's HTC related..
all the new htc devices are of less quality..
we have three i-mate devices in the house..
mine was bought about 8 months ago..
the other 2 was bought about 3 months ago..
and what??
well as darkcell said.. the new devices have really worse screens than the already not so good screen of my device..
really annoying high contrast,yellowish, you can see nothing but yellow light when you look from even a little angle...
these symptoms do not exist in my device..
and believe it or not..
the 2 devices(my brother and my sister) are now useless since the headphone jack problem which i dont know how can we mend it(any one for help??)
im really sure that HTC are producing less quality devices and that's the cause of the price fall in i-mate(mine for 950$.. and after 6 months and in a very short time 570$)..
Shame...
I have a new release of the XDA II with the 1.66 ROM. So far it's been very stable. Only had hard resetting problems when I installed Battery Pack Pro 1.1.1. Aside from that, no porblems whatsoever.
Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones. :lol:
I wanna buy XDA II next week. With this kind of information I get, I have to consider back again my choice. Can someone give me advice. TQ.
I noticed that my XDA2 speakers sounds cracked when used for call, both in speakerphone on and off...
The stylus pen holder is loose...
metalz, wait for XDA3...
I'll buy an MDA2 within 2 weeks i hope i won't have any problem with it :shock:
When this XDAIII or MDAIII expect to launch in the market? If middle next year, I rather have XDA II because I cannot wait much longer to have a hand on my dream device.
My friend said that the XDA3 will be available on the market on Desember... :wink:
not perfect
my two cents worth:
ALL devices are not perfect, have you had OS software that worked perfectly?
remember bill gates when he presented at that time the NEWEST and most ROBUST windows OS? BLUE SCREEN right in his face? hehehe, that was the biggest irony in sofware industry.
Ok, XDA 2 is used with MS not-so-perfect software and HTC no-so-great cost cutting measures. PLUS sometimes, WE force the ISSUE by installing products wherein XDA2 is not even in the LIST of supported device and expect it to run perfectly.
My XDA2 has experienced 2 HARD resets, one on its own and another i did on purpose. YES, it has its limitations, BUT i still LOVE it coz IT works fine MOST of the time. I would say 95%.
Compare with other PDA-phones in the market today, XDA 2 still ranks best.
Nothing is PERFECT, show me a device and we'll find its defect.
With this kind of information we have, somene who want the XDA II will think back about it.
Post your feedback guys, guess it'll help the world to be a better place :lol:
San
It is a good device but too costly...
I would recommand new buyers to wait for a while, so that you get a trouble free device for less..
I really dont understand the idea of this... They sell Device with bugs and problems for very high price and then after a while when the probs are almost fixed they come down.... Isnt that suppose to be other way around?
Of all the criticisms, I don't think it's expensive. OK, I bought an MDA Pro with a nice subsidy from T Mobile and not a sim-free Jam Jar, but even so, it's a good price. Compare it to an HP Hx4700 and, say, a Nokia 654321i or whatever a current phone is called :wink: Looking at retail or launch prices, you'll see that they add up to pretty much the same price or more.
mniko said:
I really dont understand the idea of this... They sell Device with bugs and problems for very high price and then after a while when the probs are almost fixed they come down.... Isnt that suppose to be other way around?
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what problems???? my jasjar is the most stable ppc phone yet...i havent soft reset it once in over 3 weeks now.. doesnt hang ...everything is working.. this is superb piece of device (i shod know ive had pda2k,pda2 and jam.... and all of them had their weak points but jasjar doesnt have any (not talking about the price...coz if you wait it will come down...or if you know anyone like i did i got my jasjar for 3800 dirhams unlike many of you who had to pay well in excess of 4100 hehe)
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what problems???? my jasjar is the most stable ppc phone yet...
....(i shod know ive had pda2k,pda2 and jam.... and all of them had their weak points but jasjar doesnt have any
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I completely agree, my experience is exactly the same, however, there do seem to be a few people around here with underperforming devices. Guess we're the lucky ones (But I'm sure everyone will be happy sooner or later...)
I like to way the Jasjar works and it's stability, although it is a bit bulky.
HOWEVER, I got mine on Monday last week. On Wednesday, having loaded everything on it and got it working exactly the way I wanted it to, I twisted the screen from phone mode in order to close it, felt a slight resistance and......guess what....yes, the feed to the screen was broken.
I guess this was always going to be a risk with the revolving screen but, really! I'm awaiting the replacement.
It's more usable than my SPV M2000 thanks to the keyboard but it is that bit bigger.
Oh and the fact it crashes my PC doesn't help either :evil:
If ur a housewife who uses it stock-standard with the awful PIM and shocking today screens - you'll be stable and happy. If you are a bleading edge techie (which is probably why you've already got one of these) then you'll have hard reset at least 2 times by now, and will have discovered the myriad of issue that require fixes (BT, PIM, 3G connection TTL, notification sadeamon dups, working player vs chip stepping, etc etc). This is much like WM2003 was in the early days - all issues eventually get solved by software. But for now it's tough battling to find suitable solutions.
personally, I think my time could have been better spent on making money and waiting for the October-1 ROM to evolve 1 more generation.
funny thing is those who complains a lot about the Universal always claimed that they're techsavvy i could prolly say that I'm one of those "idiots" that's quite satisfied with my JJ. I'm annoyed with some of its problems but satisfied overall with its performance and I don't mind waiting for the upgrades to come.
This damn device is droolworthy for sure! There are certain memory handicaps, os problems etc., but i'm sure things would be sorted out over time....
MS has wm5 in its early stages, and i-mate (or whoever) has been bold to release it...as far as i remember, there were a hundred ppl cursing MS for not releasing WM5, for which the JJ launch was being delayed....and i'm sure, all of you would have hoped for a release even though wm5 is not yet fully done and packed, and wouldnt mind an upgrade once complete....face it, its so damn gorgeous that you could'nt resist!!
The memory handicap is definitely a big issue, and i'm sure there trying to fix it, if not completely, atleast to a stage where its practical to use.
I'm wondering if O2 delayed the launch of the Exec, because of these issues??? hmmmmm!!!!!!
San
This is by far and away the most stable ppc I've had yet. Considering it offers vga screen, wifi, BT, keyboard and its a phone(3G also), I dont mind the size. In fact I personally prefer something with weight. Yes there are issues as there are issues with all relatively new devices/OS, but if u want to be at the forefront of cutting edge technology, then this is it...Obvoiusly, its horses for courses so its not everyone's ideal choice...but thats why there IS a choice.
Hi all,
I have an XDA exec, and am looking to change it for a Wizard. How much difference (if any) is there in the speed of these devices, as I understand the Wizard doesn't use an Intel processor it uses Texas Instruments.
Does this mean having to get different binaries ? or do ARM ones still work ?
How do these devices compare... any thoughts appreciated.
Cheers
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
chrissyboy6969 said:
Well i had an exec and made the exact same decision as you are thinking of making. I have no regrets believe me. First and foremost the phone part works brilliantly, secondly it seems faster to me than the exec, you dont look like a tit when you answer it and it doesnt weigh a ton.
Things i miss:-
VGA Screen
3g Data speed
Nicer keyboard
Things i dont miss:-
Useless phone
Slow speed
Weighty
Large and hard to use
Any more questions just ask
Chris
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Phew, glad it's working out for you Chris!
I switched too...
I had an exec and now I HAVE A WIZARD... I will never look back. I miss the VGA screen but that's about it.
Cyb
Have both but going to sell my exec.
Again will only miss the beautiful VGA screen.
Would O2 do a straight swap for the wizard (xda mini) or did you guys buy and sell yours privately ?
EDIT: Only within the first 14 days
Anyone wanna swap a XDA exec, bought in october 2005 for a xda mini (wizard) in black.
PM me if interested
Thanks for the responses gents, seems like a unanimous decision all round to me
Just to uphold the concensus ...
I got the Exec first , then an MDA Vario
I must say I agree with all that is said so far , the only downside is the size of the screen and the lack of 3G (no big deal IMO ) But in it's (the vario's) favour , it is a much better PHONE than the Exec , and I do need my device to be able to function as a phone as well as making the tea etc.
I am a bit gutted , as I loved the Exec , and feel sad that the Vario has rendered it almost obsolete (for my needs , at least)
Tried to sell the Exec on Ebay , but had a bit of trouble - and to be honest I was quite pleased , as I don't REALLY want to sell it :? , but can't really justify keeping it either !
I could have written that post!
I have the O2 mini and Exec. Why? Well I got the Exec through my work when upgrading and I got the mini for myself as it looked agreat bit of kit. Have had both for about three weeks.
Guess what is sitting there not getting used - the Exec!!! Sure it has a great screen and the keyboard is a flashback to the Psion 5 but for sheer convenience it has to the the mini - excellent (not fantastic a an actual phone but a great all rounder).
It will be inetresting what will be out this time next year!
Anyone want an Exec?
I have to agree with everything above. I had an Universal for about 6 weeks and loved it, however, I did find it totally unpractical as an everyday phone and ended up diverting calls to an old Nokia, which sort of defeated the object!! I then saw a K-Jam in PC World and it was love at first sight Got a fantastic deal from T-Mob (Vario) and have never looked back. I think the Universal is a great bit of kit but the Wizard does it for me every time
Hi folks, its almost time for my annual upgrade for my O2 contract so im very keen to get myself an XDA Mini s.
So without having to trawl through another 6 million threads on ROM updates and which is the best, would someone please be kind enough to tell me ?
My current phone is the XDA IIi which isnt too bad but i want a phone sized device now, the IIi was far too bulky for me. The Wizard (variant) will be used simply as a phone, ie i wont be installing TomTom on it, i'll use the XDA IIi for that instead.
So programs i would run will be SPBPocketplus and nothing much else (unless recommended)
Cheers in advance, and yup i had been looking arround to find Info before i created this thread, after the 10th thread ROM versions kinda blur.
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
jb2001 said:
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
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Not really the answer you want, but my philosophy on life is, get the best you can today and not worry about what's out tomorrow... otherwise you'll never get anything because you'll always find that a month or so down the line something better will come out... so to say!
Otherwise, the Zinc does seem impressive... but O2 have already delayed the release once, so who's to say it will actually be out at the end of march anyway
True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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I'll agree with you on that... I used to have a hx4700 myself... it was the VGA aspect that appealed to me, but I felt it was before its time... oh, and slightly big!
I think the Zinc will have v5.2 on it???
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
You may never flash WM6 on a Zinc...
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I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Absolutly agree.... I kept all my CAB files on my SD card..Just incase.. but that was WM03se. Is there a HTC "official" rom update available for wm6...where did the wm6 roms come from?? oh and whats the best...
back to the original question,
I own a TYTN and ive had good test run with the Zinc, even though the Zinc has a faster OS the tytn feels faster and reacts better. The finish of the Zinc is a big cheap looking too.
If i was to buy a new phone today it would be the Tytn again, if i was to wait then it would be kaiser or even one of the new samsungs.
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
and is there a today plugin simliar to the Orange today screen
Problem with O2 is the data charges. They're probably the worst out of all the UK networks!
I'd hate to get a phone like the Zinc or Kaiser and have to constantly monitor my data useage.
jb2001 said:
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
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Excellent choice (in terms of looks - a very stylish design).
jb2001 said:
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
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That's far too big a question. You've got some reading to do - see the wiki
for the mods.. you can delete this message if you want...
i just want people warned specially in asia region that o2 zinc is not that good ..
although better processor ( but you will not see the difference compare to HTC hermes ),camera and o2 integrated software..
THere are many other choices on O2 products... Atom exec, atom life..etc..
Just not this is O2 Zinc is not worth recommending....
or im strongly recommending HTC HERMES (Dopod 838 pro, Softbank, or the HTC Tytn if available) if your fun of slide keyboard...
I promised you this will be a great help on you...
Trust me...
I just want you to be happy like me now..