Please give me a reason not to... - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

... trade my wizard with the prophet. I realy enjoyed the device but I don't like some things:
1) build quality (HTC could do better)
keyboard, the paint pealing off the buttons, stylus
2) camera (it's veeery bad, unusable, only to play with)
3) Although all my previous devices where bulky, the size of the prophet is very small (and thin). I used to have a imate jam and I know.
So, please tell me, why shouldn't I trade it with the prophet?? Have a full SD slot??? Smaller size - same processor/performance/RAM????
Just because of the qwerty??? And maybe the laudspeakers???
Please advise me and tell me if i'm doing the right thing.
I couldn't find many htc wizard vs prophet out there.
Thanks in advance
Andrew
P.S. Why is the prophet cheaper???

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QTek 9100 high-res photos, impressions and benchmarks!

People wanted photos... here (note the forum software here seems to be broken so you'll have to actually click the photos to see them). Sorry about the blurry backlight keyboard photo - its pretty hard keeping still for 4/5ths of a second!
Enjoy!
Any chance to have some photos taken with your 9100's camera so we can compare the quality with JAM?
Thanks for the photos!
Awesome! Post your impressions! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Here!
The above post was made entirely from my 9100... pretty nifty. The camera quality is pretty terrible (as expected), the flash barely does anything except for at extremely close range (as the sample photos demonstrate). The flash stays on all the time when its enabled but when you finally press the shutter button it goes slightly brigher.
Overall, the device seems very robust and solid. The only slight downfall I've observed is that you need to make sure you slide the screen squarely or it will get jammed. It is a little bigger than I had hoped for, but still definitely pocketable.
GPRS, WiFi and Bluetooth are all easy as pie to setup and the flashing LEDs make it very easy to see exactly what you have enabled. I haven't noticed any real slowdowns, unless I have a ridiculous amount of applications open and then try to switch to landscape... oh, and the stylus can be annoying to get out/ put in (I'm used to it being on the top of the device and I'm not used to a telescopic stylus). The screen also feels very bendy/ stretchy, like the air-gap between the glass and the touchscreen layer is pretty big. This means that you have to press quite hard for the touchscreen to respond (I'm used to a feather-light touch on the hx4700). Other than that it feels fine. I'll post more after I've had a play. I havent even connected this thing to a PC yet!
Sound quality is superb! I thought I'd find the headphones that are supplied with it laughable, but they're not half bad! There is actually bass (not much, but its there) and crisp high-end frequencies! The question is: Is the limiting factor the headphones or the amplifier. Unfortunately I don't have a 2.5mm->3.5mm converter to hand to find out.
The earphones dont really fit my ears well (none do) so I might look into doctoring them by attaching a 3.5mm jack after the little volume slider box.
I'm quite an audiophile and I find the sound quality quite acceptable, it definitely wont replace a dedicated MP3 player, but if its all you've got it will do fine.
can you post a picture of your device info. my kjam says 195mhz on processor speed and I have heard that the qtek says 200mhz. but that was a pre production unit. can you tell me if yours says 200mhz or 195???
This one has it's clock set to 195MHz like the K-JAM.
Also, if you're totally obsessive about the condition/ resale value of your devices, you dont need to open the sealed CD (its sealed with a Microsoft label). All it seems to contain is ActiveSync 4.0 and Outlook 2002.
Another thing I noticed - on the side of the box it says "802.11 b"... I'm not sure if this is different to the K-JAM which says it supports 802.11g among others. Has anyone bothered to see what the throughput is on the K-JAM?
The benchmark is in. Use the contents of these files at: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/handleresult.php?en
These results are taken from a fresh hard-reset hx4700 and a fresh hard-reset Qtek 9100. Yes, I realise comparing a WM2003 to a WM2005 device using such software isn't particularly fair... but it does accurately show how much slower the Wizard is (especially when it comes to writing files straight into flash ROM).
Note that the storage card results in the Qtek file should be the same as the "main" filesystem results since its reading from/ writing to the same place (I don't have a miniSD card yet). The reason the Qtek outranks the hx4700 in the graphics department is because the hx4700 is a VGA device.
The battery results for the Qtek 9100 are with the GSM radio activated.
If you've been monitoring the reported bugs on the K-jam on HoFo, it'd be interesting to see how the 9100 compares and whether you find the same bugs.
Also a little concerned about the wifi only being b spec not g. Can you test this?
I just switched my Wireless AP to "G Only". This took out my old laptop with a B card, however my Qtek 9100 was still able to connect fine.
Also, I've been messing around a bit more with the camera... and the photo quality is abysmal. My Nokia 6600 took better photos!
It's amazing they couldn't put a better camera in such an expensive device. What's the point of 1.3 mega pixels of noise?
I totally agree. They may as well have just put a 300kpixel camera in there, the quality would have been the same.
my guess is that those pictures were taken too close to the keyboard for the lens to focus on it. I saw some pictures from a k-jam and, while still not that good, they were much better than these. I believe the same camera unit was used in both.
The camera's focal distance is terrible. I compared it to a Sony CliƩ which could take a crisp photo of a sheet of paper about 5cm away with only a 300kpixel camera!
ShALLaX said:
The screen also feels very bendy/ stretchy, like the air-gap between the glass and the touchscreen layer is pretty big. This means that you have to press quite hard for the touchscreen to respond (I'm used to a feather-light touch on the hx4700). Other than that it feels fine. I'll post more after I've had a play. I havent even connected this thing to a PC yet!
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I've just got a pair of 9100's to replace our old 6310's. The first one I opened (and gave to the wife) is as responsive as my 4700, even with a PPC Tech screen protector on. The second sounds just like yours ShALLaX, definately more squishy, even before I put the screen protector on...
Regards,
Dox
Yay for quality control
ShALLaX said:
Yay for quality control
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I know... I'd send it back to Expansys, but their K-Jams's have slipped again, and I don't know how long I'd have to wait for another 9100.
Dox
Yeah... I'm sure I'll survive too.
Pretty much got mine all setup how I want it now. With it all customised you do start to notice performance issues but I'm willing to overlook the sluggish programme start times because of the awesome functionality.

Considering the K-Jam... suggestions ?

I currently have a Jasjar, but I'm finding it too big...
I love all the features, but I want to be able to use it one-handed, throw it in my pocket, etc... the K-Jam seems like a good alternative.
The only things that I'm not liking about the K-Jam are:
- Lower rez screen (but it's smaller than the Jasjar, 3.6" vs. 2.8"... so its still pretty sharp... and I can't really see where I couldn't live without it)
- 2.5" headset jack, and on the bottom... (kinda annoying... but could use an adapter... but still a hassle because I currently plug my MP3 player into my car, my headphones AND speakers at the office, and I'll have to have an adapter sticking out of the bottom of my phone now...)
- Mini-SD card... (SD is much better to go above 2GB, even up to 4GB... and it's not exactly a well known or used format... SD is cheaper, and Memory Stick Pro Duo is coming down in price since the PSP came out... but what can I do)
Also, does it work well for one-handed use ?
Any ex-Treo users who care to comment ?
Any ideas ? Suggestions ?
Thanks !
The wizard is a solid device. Go for it!!
You will love the extra battery life and size. I really could not imagine having a universal clipped to my belt weighing my pants down.
I upgraded from an alpine and I could not be happier.
Higher screen REZ is not needed on a screen that small. The screen is much sharper compared to the alpine.
The OMAP cpu is just enough processing power to run everything out there.
Also, I noiticed you were in Canada so I doubt you were making use of the 3G power of the universal(probably another 5-7 years for Canada). The wizard is EDGE enabled so if you use rogers you will see great data download rates. I was lucky enough to already be signed up with fido and their $50/month unlimited data plan when rogers took over fido so i am paying $50 a month for unlimited EDGE use. I am quite sure FIDO does not offer this plan to new subscibers anymore.
My only compliants with the wizard are:
-HTC needs to make better use of the device by increasing screen size without increasing the size of the device.(all HTC devices)
-The stylus hole is a joke. My stylus hole wore out within 1 week and now my stylus slides out of the hole very easily. Soon it will probably be falling out. Didn't they bother testing this at all???
-no GPS.
hey audible,
thanks for the reply !
I am with fido / rogers as well and I signed up for the unlimited plan as well... are you in Montreal ? and where did you order your K-Jam ?
so yeah I'd be good using the EDGE support... I often use my p800 as a bluetooth modem with my laptop.
a few questions:
- that sounds bad about the stylus... is there a solution ?
- have you experienced any issues multi-tasking with the OMAP ?
- have you ever tried a VGA screen on a pda to compare ?
- how's the k-jams one handed use ? have you ever tried a treo for one handed use in comparison ?
- did you remap the explorer and mail buttons to something more useful ? like windows and OK ?
- does the 2.5" jack bother you ? do you use an adapter ?
- does the keyboard slide mechanism feel solid ? I'm worried now after what you said about the stylus...
thanks and look forward to your reply !
Posted from a Universal !
- that sounds bad about the stylus... is there a solution ?
I haven't had any probs with my stylus yet, except it may be a little looser than when I got it.
- have you experienced any issues multi-tasking with the OMAP ?
Nope, I can have several apps open at once (eg. Calender, Notes, Email, MSN, IE x 2 (using PPCPlus), TCPMP playing MP3) and its fine.
- have you ever tried a VGA screen on a pda to compare ?
It resembles the crispness of VGA screen because of its smaller size, but in no way matches the res.
- how's the k-jams one handed use ? have you ever tried a treo for one handed use in comparison ?
Haven't tried a treo, but WM5 is great for one handed use. I can do most things without the stylus. The Win and Ok keys on the keyboard make it even easier.
- did you remap the explorer and mail buttons to something more useful ? like windows and OK ?
You can, but I find their defaults good.
- does the 2.5" jack bother you ? do you use an adapter ?
I rarely use it, but yes when I do I use an adaptor.
- does the keyboard slide mechanism feel solid ? I'm worried now after what you said about the stylus...
I am happy with the slider. It seems pretty solid, and the screen definately feels like it will stay up when it is up.
Hey mitchello,
thanks for your feedback !
Audible:
Any comments ?
Wizard (imate K-JAM) is awesome!
Moving from a Blue Angel to the wizrd has so far been very pleasing. The smaller screen has been a little daunting, especially trying to use the "finger" stylus, but beyond that I highly recommend it.
Stability and features in WM5 are nice, and should not be discounted.
I'm on T-Mobile in the US, and EDGE is great at around 150kbs, compared to 30kbs via GPRS.
i upgraded from my IMATE PPC and i love the K-JAM , it is a little slow , but the battery is great.. i love the deviced , once you get used to it and all features you will love it..
i used adapter to play MP3 in my car and it work great...
good luck
i upgraded from my IMATE PPC and i love the K-JAM , it is a little slow , but the battery is great.. i love the deviced , once you get used to it and all features you will love it..
i used adapter to play MP3 in my car and it work great...
good luck
Hey rah,
thanks for the comments !
Good to hear someone else who uses it to play tunes in the car.
What about one-handed use ? Do you feel you have to do finger aerobics to do certain things, like open the start menu ?
I've heard of people mapping the Send Call button to the Start menu in the Today screen...
I'm wondering if I could map Send and End to Start and OK in every screen except for the Phone screen ?
Any comments ?

Jamin VS K-Jam????

Let's say our experience in comparing these 2 models :advantages &disadvantages and personal opinions and impression....
I've used both (Wizard and Prophet) and I prefer the Prophet (JAMin/S200). The build quality is superior IMO. If you can get by w/out a keyboard, I say go with the Prophet.
The Prophet has dedicated Windows and OK/Close buttons. With the Wizard you can use SmartSkey but I prefer a hardware solution to a hack.
Other than the physical appearance, keyboard or lack thereof and buttons they are the same.
I sold my wizard and got a prophet.
Haven't looked back since.
Jamin is slow - Very slow
I have been using the Jasjar, Kjam and lately I am using the 818pro which in fact is the Jamin.
Iloaded the latest Imate version 2.13.23wwe.
Once loaded my 2700 Outlook contacts the machine does not "move". It is slow almost not useable, while the K-Jam was functioning better. I did not fine tune it beyong turning the infrared off and turn off the debug info, however I do not think it is a good machine. it takes long time to access messages it take very long time to recover from network communication (phone) faults, moving between cells and switching network is anoying ...
I am not very happy with this device. The K-Jam is faster althogh bulky a bit.
I recently went out to buy a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) and discovered the Qtek S200 (Prophet). The build quality of the prohet and the looks of the device are certainly superior IMO.
The problem I have has is understanding people when talking on the phone. I have returned one prohet and am on my second and have noticed no improvement in sound quality. Using a collegues K-Jam I noticed fantastic sound quality both in phone quality and also in extenal speaker quality. I understand the Wizard has 2 more speakers than the prophet, and i would still prefer the smaller device. However, I find the prohet very diffulcult to use as a phone because of the sound quality issue. As a result I am thinking of changing my Qtek S200 for a Qtek 9100!
I have exactly the same experiences and opinion as hellomoto_25
had wizard, sold wizard, bought prophet -->happy.
I can remember how easily the icons on the hardware buttons wore off.
The rubber on the back cover also abandond me! The phone started to slide open very easy(in my pocket). Absolutely unacceptable for HTC
I have now got my wizard, I bought a K-jam insted of a Qtek and feel the customised ROM is far Superior. I am much happier with the wizard. Admitedly is bigger nad does not look as good (which is very diffulcult for me to get over) but it is far more usable than the prophet. I wil be upgrading to a Hermes in the late summer, but until then the wizard is great.
For my needs the Prophet is much better. I purchased the Wizard and was quite underwhelmed. It didn't feel that solid and after its first day of use the stylus holder was already rattling. I felt it was too big for a phone and it didn't lend itself to one handed operation. The keyboard although great for data input I think would have been rarely used.
So after having the device for 10 days sold it on and purchased a qtek s200 (not the cheapest way though). Much better device and for me had more of a wow... factor. Importantly the balance of the device in my hands made it much better for one handed control and also felt much more sturdy. Don't forget the SD card on the prophet allows you up to 4 gb at the moment. The speakerphone is not as good (because of the one speaker at the back) as the Wizard though but perfectly adequate.
Lastly referring to the ROMS the Prophet is probably less polished than the Wizard ROMs althought this is to be expected as the Prophet is a newer device. I expect them to be on par in the next few months.
Iain
Heh
And I thought I was the only one going from a Wizard to a Prophet so fast The Prophet is a wonderful device! Stylish, solid, thin, much better 2mpix camera, SD card slot (waiting for my 80EUR-4GB-card any moment now 8) ).
Just as the guy above said - the Wizard is think, the keyboard keeps sliding out in your pocket (really really annoying), and not stylish at all. Haven't used the keyboard much either.
I say go for the Prophet! Now that I have it, I'm a PocketPC maniac again!
P.S. It is simply wonderful - the smallest and most funtional PocketPC ever!

Wizard Vs. Wing

So my wizard has been acting up (see the annoying white screen post ) i was wondering first of all if i am allowed to send in my MDA to get it replaced with a Wing for free, since they no longer make MDAs and my MDA is not working properly. Second is the Wing better than the MDA, because i heard that it only has 1 speaker, and no IR (i dont really use IR but its nice to have it). So i was wondering if the speaker is really different than the MDAs or are they both about the same in loudness and quality level.?
BTW: I live in the US so it would be T-Mobile US.
killerkhatiby009 said:
So my wizard has been acting up (see the annoying white screen post ) i was wondering first of all if i am allowed to send in my MDA to get it replaced with a Wing for free, since they no longer make MDAs and my MDA is not working properly. Second is the Wing better than the MDA, because i heard that it only has 1 speaker, and no IR (i dont really use IR but its nice to have it). So i was wondering if the speaker is really different than the MDAs or are they both about the same in loudness and quality level.?
BTW: I live in the US so it would be T-Mobile US.
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Nobody, except Tmobile can answer your question about getting the Wing as a free replacement for MDA
For MDA vs Wing, I can share my experience with you. I recently got the Wing to play around with and still have my MDA. There are some areas of improvements on the Wing but there are also some downside. But IMHO the improvement is out weight the cons. Missing IR is a disadvantage, but most pp don't use the IR connection nowaday, Bluetooth is over taking the IR.
For speakers, hard to tell with one is better. I think the MDA is a little louder, but the Wing seems to have the clearer sound. Hard to say which is better.
I called T-Mobile about getting a Wing and what would happen if I had an issue with my mda and needed a replacement and T-Mobile still has MDAs to send out to people that need replacements. So I`d doubt they`ll send you a wing instead.
I don't have any proof of this but I have heard that T-mobile is sending wings out to people who have a defective MDA. You'd have to call T-mobile to be sure, of course. There is probably a finite supply of MDA's left in their inventory as it is, so eventually you will probably only be able to get a wing as a replacement. When that will be, I have no idea...
My husband has the wing and I have the mda. I like having the IR because there is a program that will let you use your device as a universal remote. Comes in very handy when you're in a place where you'd like to change the TV channel but don't have the remote (hospital rooms, hotels, etc).
I haven't really listened closely to my husband's wing but the speaker quality seems to be decent. When his phone rings I can't tell whether it is mine or his. I've been flashing my rom a lot lately so there hasnt been any use in changing the ringer all the time.
One thing I am jealous about with hubby's Wing is that the screen pops out from the keyboard instead of sliding the way the MDA does. So you don't get the problem of the screen hanging halfway off of the keyboard if you don't close it all the way.
Also the stylus doesn't just fall out of the Wing like it does with the MDA.
If you get a Wing you will not be able to use your Mini SD card since the Wing uses Micro SD.
The Wing's Comm Manager button is on the keyboard instead of the side of the case. Unless there's a trick we haven't noticed yet, you can't just hold down a button on the side of the case to switch between speaker and vibrate. You actually have to do something on-screen or pop out the keyboard.
WM6 on the MDA works great for me (using X-plore), and it is faster than the old WM5. With that in mind, I'm not noticing a huge increase in speed or performance with the Wing. I haven't really looked much into it but hubby tells me the two devices use the same cpu.
The Wing has the 2 MP camera whereas the MDA has 1 MP. Image quality is about the same except of course the Wing can store larger images. If you want, pm me and I can take 2 pictures of the same object using the Wing and the MDA and let you compare them... I don't know how important that is to you.
The Wing is somewhat lighter than the MDA, but hubby and I both find this weight difference to be barely noticeable. Wing is slightly thinner. Again, its a minimal difference.
The Wing is, as far as I know, the Herald, so you might also want to check the herald forums to see what people think and feel about theirs.
Personally, I'm satisfied with my MDA and I wouldn't want to trade it in unless it was suffering from a major disfunction.
Wow, thanks that was a lot of info. Ill talk to T-mobile about replacing my MDA because it is defective, my screen keeps turning completely white for no reason and to remove the whiteness i have to slide out the keyboard just so the first row of keys show. But anyway thanks for the information, it has saved me a ton of time looking for reviews and comparisons.
Can Aim be any slower!
hey Im a happy MDA user but I have never been happy with the extreme slowness of the aim. Thats the only problem i have with my MDA, the msn messenger goes really quick i dont understand why the aim is soo slow.Is there any way i can make it faster!? ive tried numerous things since september of 06 lol. and does anybody know if the aim on the wing goes quicker? because Ive been eyeing the wing. help !
my opinion
so I got my wing yesterday, first impression it feels nice since I had WM6 on my MDA there was not much to explore the first thing I checked was MEMORY and that did not look pretty here is what I had:
Storage Programs
total:39.44 Total: 43.87
in use: 13.87 in use: 28 something
Free: 25 MB or so Free: 15 something
compared to what I have on my MDA with the awsome wm6 X-plore 2.0n and after installing over 10 apps and all kinds of tweaks this wing is a real WIMP on memory, so I decided to do a hard reset and did soft reset before the Tmobile customization started I wanted to get rid of all T-mobile crap but that did not work it did get rid of some apps and I ganed about 7MB of storage memory but did not help the program memory I gues some of the T-Movbile stuff is part of the Rom and that sucks. when I did the first soft reset I kept looking for the hole on th right side of the phone but it was on the left, since I am right handed that to me is an inconvenience, the siding action on the keyboard is nice, typing on it is not bad at all, what I did not like about it is that it's slides open the opposite way the MDA does again I think that is another inconvenience for a right handed person since most people use their thumb to push the keyboard open, I thought to myself maybe they had a right handed and left handed version...lol.. beacause this is annoying for a right handed person, then again maybe its just me. I like the new "ok" and "windows" buttons the front keys are nice and easy to use I am not sure I like the side buttons lay out I liked them better on the MDA. Before I got this wing thing I wondered how the sound would be with one speaker well, I found out the sound on the MDA is louder when playing mp3 files and when the phone rings quality wise it's close but overall I like the MDA stereo speakers better, the camera on the wing is better quality of course it should be since it's 2.0 MP vs the 1.3 mp on the MDA.
Overall it's an ok device I think I have to give it a couple of weeks see how me and IT get along, but my number one wish is TO FLASH IT and get all that wasted memory back, and that will happen I just dont wanna falsh now because there is no ship rom to go back to in case I brick it.
anyway that was my opinion so far and I will post more as time goes.
SamanthaLovesPink said:
hey Im a happy MDA user but I have never been happy with the extreme slowness of the aim. Thats the only problem i have with my MDA, the msn messenger goes really quick i dont understand why the aim is soo slow.Is there any way i can make it faster!? ive tried numerous things since september of 06 lol. and does anybody know if the aim on the wing goes quicker? because Ive been eyeing the wing. help !
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try using IMplus it's fast and works well for all messengers.

Blue Angel II - Where is it?

Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?
Because they are working on this!
HTC Shift and that is not all!
But you are right, BA is the top model!
Blue Angel rulesss
It really is amazing how I'm still sticking with my BA since it was released.
Every year I look around to find a PDAphone to replace the old fellow, but I have to realize, that there isn't a better one.
I would accept the same device with 640*480 and 3G/HSDPA
Been thinking about the Kaiser, but since WM6 is running on my BA now... =)
Why throw the good cash out the window?
Same thought here. Best money I've spent in BA!!
rambo6 said:
Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?
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That will be a beauty, i would surely go for it. BlueAngle rules.
noob @ xda....but a loooong time BA user (Dec2004)
I love the BA...the only things it lacks are a good built in GPS & HSDPA/UMTS/EDGE (can never have enough fast options for net access). Even without these two things I still am able to use it to impress people (even iphone fanatics...no custom apps).
TyTN II looks good but the only thing that keeps me away is the sideways keyboard, I wish they would put out a TyTN II with a slider KB like the BA. Single handed KB is great when you really need to multitask...multitasking is the reason I got a HTC.
Rugged Build story: I dropped it from 5ft+ (I had it chest level & I am 6' 3"), on a SF sidewalk...it died..or so I thought took it back home and all that happened was the backup battery reset and once I synced it with my pc everything was back to normal. This wasn't the first time its been dropped so I figured it was time to get a new device, but the build is awesome in this. But since it was a hard reset I finally decided to put WM6 on it (thank you all the great xda developers here), now its faster and more useful.
rambo6 said:
Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?
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and a 3.2 MP camera ...
I would sell my house to get some thing similar !!!
I love my Blue Angel ! 3 Years with me, never let me down.
I Love it! Blue Angel is the top for me.. Every time a look around for new PDA, look at new release from HTC, never found all i have in BA. Best thing - Size is exactly what a device like this must be! 3.7 display - not too big, not too small. I broke my lcd+touchscreen, replaced from e-bay, and I am still using it.
Don't like the idea of GPS in the unit. Better on Bluetooth - in your car mount BA don't have clear view to the sky.
Blue Angel II (if any) should not have key board.
I love my Blue Angel, after upgrading to WM6, I dont like to buy any other available in market.
I like Blueangel the way it is, but wanted it to have a better processor (520mhz would be nice), VGA Screen, Accelerated video, 3G and landscape keyboard.
EmZvr said:
I like Blueangel the way it is, but wanted it to have a better processor (520mhz would be nice), VGA Screen, Accelerated video, 3G and landscape keyboard.
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Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma
vma said:
Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma
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exactly... i wanted to upgrade to a universal, but since wm6 came out i stayed on with it. its nice to have a dinosaur that can rock along the newer models.
vma said:
Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma
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That's right but I don't like it's design, only if there were buttons in the front.. And I think it's not video accelerated which is very important to me. Or is it ?
Hi,
I am not sure if it is videoaccelerated or not, but I can tell you that all applications I like work as good or better on my Universal as on my BA:
- Emulators
- TomTom
- TCPMP
The Universal is slightly bigger than the BA and one has to get used to the tilting screen.
On the other hand, it is much nicer to have the Universal in the back-pocket of your trousers than having then BA attached to the belt, where it get's hit by doors or other things, when you move to close to walls...
And believe me: the VGA screen is suberb!!!
Cheers,
vma
Same Here
BA is the best. Love it very much although i was given a gift of HTC TyTn.
E-TEN X800 or M800 seems to be my current candidate for BA replacement.
BA is a really good dinosaur. Hard to let it go.
However, remember that there are some awfully crappy things about it. It's not perfect.
- somewhat power hungry
- awful cradle connector
- audio out funtion in cradle connector newer worked for me (for any carkit)
- has confirmed hardware issue with buttons (loss of response - makes gaming hard)
- has crappy WM2003SE (because, face it... no WM5 WM6 ROM is stable and bug free enough)
I agree, that it's hard to find a decent replacement for it.
All model have too small screens...
Won't go back......
I checked out all the other models, older and current, before I bought the BA. I have a Wizard, which now resides in a drawer, only as a back-up, in case something happens to my BA. The only criticism I have of the BA is that they no longer manufacture it, so I too hope HTC comes out with something to replace it. From what I've seen of the newer models and what I read on this forum everyday, I'll stick with the BA.
BTW, robal, take a look at the rom I,m running. Since upgrading from 2003se to this rom, I have had 0 issues. It's fast, stable and battery life is acceptable.
i've since moved on from my BA to a hermes and now a kaiser......i miss my BA.
well BA has its design faults
1.the cable which connects lcd to motherboard is weak and after some sliding it cracks - this effect can be solved (extend the durability) with Polyethylene Foam Tape on the cable
2.after sliding there there are sme scratches below the hardware keyboard - repainting
3.the stylus pin (inside the device) which hold the stylus from falling off also cracks after too many usage - i fixed it with silicone (as i lost the pin) and it works fine over a year now
other than that the device is pretty solid and had no problems with it
most are the new WM problems but without proper drivers it is almost inpossible to be solved
in comparission with kaiser the BA has better video acceleration for the moment (this will change when the proper kaiser drivers are released)
What BA miss (the things i miss in it):
internal GPS
54 mbit wireless
better camera (2 mpix)
OpenGL ES hardware acceleration
larger rom space (32 mb right now if it was larger we can create more complete rom images for BA)
larger storage space 60 mb (everyone needs more space)
What BA miss (the things i do not miss in it):
3G/3.5G/HSDPA etc - high speed data connections - due to high proces of this types of connections i do not really need them
Video Call - the same as above
the CPU speed and the amount of ram in BA are enough for WM 6 and 6.1 even if it was released in 2004...
but maybe proper replacement is the Universal or the Kaiser (for now)
we will see what will happen in near future

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