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Will magician ever be upgraded to WM5?any chances?

hi there
I know it's WM5 upgrade not available right now but I was just wondering that if it'll ever be possible that mini would be upgraded to WM5.Is it possible or mini doesn't meet the hardware requirements of WM5?your ideas?

Read the forums This was discussed all over the place!

However
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
I get mine hopefully next week when I am over in China.

Nope, never, jamais, nunca, nie, никогда, nooit, ποτέ, mai.

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apple_power said:
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
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I hope that you are aware that Magician and o2 atom are not only different devices, BUT ALSO FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
I will not be so naive to hope for WM5 on Magician, instead I hope for a nice brandnew WM5 device under the christmas tree. This hope is more likely to become true

Oh, another one!
:mrgreen: :lol: BWAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAAA HAAAA :lol: :mrgreen:
Sorry, but I find people who ask this funny!

Especially because WM5 is absolutely uninteresting. It has been very slow on almost any new devices and the "nomore backups" issue isn't important to most of us people since we know how to make good backups - don't we?

I think WM5 is interessting! Not because of the Backup-Options.
Look here:
http://mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm2005-1-en.shtml
The Outlook Contacts for example are _much_ better in WM5.
You see the Contact's full name _and_ the numbers and calling is so much easier!

Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?

Stupy said:
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
Unfortunately WM5 on the Magician is almost impossible. Unofficial upgrades for other devices occured simply because M$ and/or carriers were testing the new OS on these devices and the ROM got leaked. Now that the testing is over who do you think will take his time and effort to develop this interface for free??? And that's providing he/she has the necessary resources.
At this point the only way to upgrade to WM5 is to sell your device and get a new one :-( I will probably go for the 02 XDA Atom or HTC Prophet fairly soon.
(btw, I really really hope someone proves me wrong )

look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?

nato said:
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
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No. How may times does it have to be said. Read the post immediately before yours. :roll:
It's not going to happen.

kta said:
Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
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Thanks kta for sorting that out. I just got the Mini, so it'll be a little while before I get the Atom - they don't sell too many of these types of phones here in Canada. No matter, I'll be happy with what I've got. Cheers!

OFFICIAL WM6 Coming to SPV M3100

Having spoken to HTC Europe they have confirmed a new firmware release for the Orange SPV M3100 due in april / may, this release will be WM6 / Crossbow (I asked specifically)
Unsure as to whether there are any extras / enhancements planned so far but it should be interesting.
(Orange were unable to let me know of any planned firmware releases and gave me the number for HTC as - to quote orange - "They build the devices and build the firmware upgrades for us, we have no information on the systems at present but they would be able to help you further")

Would be nice however experience would suggest that hope rather than expectation is the better bet......

meh i won't hold my breath

I lol'd

I would assume that WM6 uses more processor and memory than WM5 (to stick with Microsoft tradition ) so if so how does it fair in that respect?
It's pretty pointless for me to upgrade to WM6 (even if it was possible) to find the device too slow for use.
At the moment it's surviving, but there are still a few small outstanding issues, but I think there always will be with software like this.....

Elwyn M3100 said:
I would assume that WM6 uses more processor and memory than WM5 (to stick with Microsoft tradition ) so if so how does it fair in that respect?
It's pretty pointless for me to upgrade to WM6 (even if it was possible) to find the device too slow for use.
At the moment it's surviving, but there are still a few small outstanding issues, but I think there always will be with software like this.....
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I have stepped up from the stock M3100 orange uk rom to xda live2.0 and now to WM Black 1.2. I seem to have an odd issue on soft resetting which is documented in the relevent thread. I suspect it is to do with some of the software I am running. General responsiveness of WM6 is in my opinion much better than I had with the original set up. I would not go back - it is much more like what I expected it would be when I ordered the phone.

Elwyn M3100 said:
I would assume that WM6 uses more processor and memory than WM5 (to stick with Microsoft tradition ) so if so how does it fair in that respect?
It's pretty pointless for me to upgrade to WM6 (even if it was possible) to find the device too slow for use.
At the moment it's surviving, but there are still a few small outstanding issues, but I think there always will be with software like this.....
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it wouldnt hurt to try wm6, and once u do u will be amazed how it outperforms wm5 in many aspects. the first thing u notice is how fast your ppc will work

Is there anything new coming out from HTC that is significantly better than Hermes?

Hey guys, this is my first post, so please excuse my ignorance regarding windows mobile phones. I'm currently using a Sony Ericsson M600i, and I want to make the switch to Windows Mobile. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on ordering a Softbank X01HT. I'm just wondering if there is something newer and better than the Hermes that is coming out soon that I should wait for instead of purchasing the softbank now. I do have some questions regarding flashing the ROM on the softbank to a Windows Mobile 6 ROM, but I think it's best to start another thread regarding that specific question. Any help on this is greatly appreciated, thanks.

PDAdb.net is a good place for learning about coming models.
If I were to replace my JASJAM I would probably pick this one. Not HTC though, but with my experience with their hardware so far I'd say that that doesn't matter much.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733 HTC kaiser i will be waiting for this one

Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the link. Very cool site. The one you linked to looks nice. In terms of specs, the one replacing the Hermes has USB 2.0 and a built in GPS. That's about all that I can see in terms of differences. Well besides the cooler way the qwerty keyboard comes out of course.
I think I might go ahead and put the order in for the Softbank.

kman79 said:
Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the link. Very cool site. The one you linked to looks nice. In terms of specs, the one replacing the Hermes has USB 2.0 and a built in GPS. That's about all that I can see in terms of differences. Well besides the cooler way the qwerty keyboard comes out of course.
I think I might go ahead and put the order in for the Softbank.
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Besides that its going to have a 3.0 camera and 256mb of ram.

Can anyone tell me if this device is truly capable of displaying the alleged 262144 colours/scales?
My understanding is that WM6 only supports 65536.
kinky

how about htc advantage with built in gps 8gig hd,5"inch screen available in uk tmobile ameo

There is already a thread on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300590&highlight=kaiser
Mike

[T-Mobile UK] WM 6 Upgrade ?

Firstly, a big thank you to all those members of this forum that post usefull infomation, whilst I don't post, I do find most of the posted info very useful.
A couple of questions:
1) Are T-Mobile going to offer a WM 6 Upgrade in the UK (I assume the O2 UK upgrade is official ?)
2) Have the issues with WM 6 and the Blackberry Rim software been resolved ?
Many thanks in advance
Retronana

Last I heard T-Mobile had said NO, they weren't going to give us an official upgrade.
Not that it's a problem, Network's own releases are always notoriously bad, look at the reviews of O2's offering for example, much better off with the software direct from HTC or a cooked ROM like one of Tom's B&B.
Sorry don't use Blackberry software here.

Thanks for the info with regards to the ROM's, I'm prepared to install HTC ROM although don't want to stuff my Blackberry Connect software at the same time.

Can anyone recommend an actual ROM that they have used on a T-Mobile UK device that retains the original features? Or at least list what is missing?
Cheers, J.

O2 Exec rom Upgrade

Hi there
I'm a bit new to xda's, I've just inherited an o2 exec. After playing around with it for a while it's flaws start to shine through quite brightly. From what I have read on here I need to flash the rom as a starter, but before I turn this thing into a brick I just wanted to ask a few questions.
1. From the guide I read, the imate 30 September rom is the best one to use, but that guide was made some time ago. Is this still the case?
2. If so is there anything different that I can expect installing on the o2 exec or is the only difference between the devices the hardware.
3. Any tips on where I might be able to pick this up from would be well received.
4. I live in China, apparently there are now all three types of 3g phone networks available, does this device work better with one type of network and not with another?
Much Gratitude
Ringsting

ringsting said:
Hi there
I'm a bit new to xda's, I've just inherited an o2 exec. After playing around with it for a while it's flaws start to shine through quite brightly. From what I have read on here I need to flash the rom as a starter, but before I turn this thing into a brick I just wanted to ask a few questions.
1. From the guide I read, the imate 30 September rom is the best one to use, but that guide was made some time ago. Is this still the case?
2. If so is there anything different that I can expect installing on the o2 exec or is the only difference between the devices the hardware.
3. Any tips on where I might be able to pick this up from would be well received.
4. I live in China, apparently there are now all three types of 3g phone networks available, does this device work better with one type of network and not with another?
Much Gratitude
Ringsting
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Welcome to the forum
1. The best ROM is the one that fits your personal needs, try several till you find the right one! (Personally I recommend Tomal 8.5)
2. If oyu have your original ROM is wm5, on this great forum you can find fantastic ROM´s 6, 6.1 and even 6.5 beta, so yes there aremuch different!
3. First of all please READ the Wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Then search for the ROM you want on Universal forum, if you don´t know which then READ the members opinions
4. Uni has 3G for europe and Asia, so I don´t think you´ll have a problem with this
Good luck,

thanks so much
i have had a good read of the wiki but i am still a bit unsure about a couple of things. once i have these cleared up i'm gonna jump in.
so any rom will work on any unit (ie xda,dupod,jarjar)? Is there no difference whatsoever between the different brands?
also how does the speed of windows mobile 6 compare with 5?
thanks again

ignore me.....bit the bullet an went for it, every thing is fine and wm6.1 is running about 6 and a half billion times faster than 5 was