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Hi All,
I've seen a similar post regarding this issue but no answer as to why Xcpuscalar eats approx 40% constantly when the device is left idle. When first starting Xcpuscalar all appears to be ok. Then after about 30-60 seconds the cpu usage of Xcpuscalar shoots up to about 40% and stays there. You can see this either using the health meters page, the task bar CPU meter or any other tool such as task manager/Supertasks.
Never saw this issue on my Xda II. Does anyone else see this? Is it normal? I don't want to use this application if it is going to constantly eat my battery because of cpu usage it uses.
Cheers,
Richard.
What version of Xcpu are you using?
Try out the latest!
Underclock to improve battery life
This is purely in theory, but I was wondering if underclocking the cpu would allow for a little more battery time, like say setting it to 416mhz. Any thoughts anyone?
Try task manager and you will know which process eats cpu usage while you running xcpuscalar, may be xcpuscalar itself consumes cpu usage.
Then when you find which process uses more usage kill that process if it is not necessary or you can find why it eats lot of usage.
Is it possible to download any software to give an estimate of how much battery life is leave in minutes etc ?
Also is there any software to allow you to underclock the device and improve the battery performance ?
steveecourt said:
Is it possible to download any software to give an estimate of how much battery life is leave in minutes etc ?
Also is there any software to allow you to underclock the device and improve the battery performance ?
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spb pocket plus (or sbsh ilauncher I'm almost certain it's spb though) will display a battery icon with time left.
As for clocking, try this , but I don't think so yet
Try this one:
it also tryies to predict the remaining battery time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364278
I use xcpuscalar for overclocking, it displays % of cpu usage and allows you to enable OC depending on it. Works fine for me
hello, i have a T mo wing with touch it 2.3. i just install battery status 1.04 beta2. and the battery seem to drain quite fast. Any advice on the battery status setting to slow down battery drain. I do not want to over clock anything by the way. just like the battery icon in the home page. thank you !
Batterystatus wont drain your battery faster unless you overclock it. Anyway here other Options..
1) if you've resco explorer, they bungle today plugin(free with resco explorer(shareware)) with it, which can show battery
2) sbsh ilauncher also shows battery
3) spb pocket plus
4) batti(Freeware), while does not show battery info on today screen, shows it right above the topbar
i think what kdskamal was initially getting at (mayb) was that some cooks set batterystatus to overclock as the default setting, so you should check that this has not been done first.
I know you didn't want to try overclocking but if power consumption is such an issue you should consider trying the cpuscaler...i don't use it myself but I've heard that it makes a noticable difference. Apart from that all you can do is change the WLAN setting to best battery, (if you use WLAN alot) and keep the screen brightness down (yeah no sh*t!.)
hope that helps
Backlight may be the case. In touch it, the backlight is set on the extreme. This can be the cause of quick battery drain. Try stepping it down a little
So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
Doctor Mick said:
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
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Thanks, I was about to download something to moniter the consumption. I'll give it a shot when I get home from school
I have the same issue with my battery. I use it for med-heavy. By the end of the day Im at like 15%. That sux.
I've installed S2U2...does this application drain the battery also?
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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2 DAYS UNPLUGGED? Are you kidding me. On standby or using it. Im thinking this battery is horrible. If I dont plug in every night, im in trouble.
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
CPU scaler
I have Battery Status ver. 0.5 but don't see CPU scaler, is it only available in the Beta version?
1 to 2 days of life with normal-full use. Up to 4-6 days in standby with almost no use
Bingoig11 said:
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
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Can you please give me more info on the battery status software and cpu scaler?
Do you have an Elf or Elfin?
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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I turn off the wi-fi when I'm not at home. I'm always within service area, so the GSM radio stays. I don't use bluetooth. It's set to go into standby mode after 2mins. On Thursday, I took it off of the charger at 8:30am had a couple classes till 3pm, so light-to-medium use. It was dead by 3:30pm. I did install BatteryStatus later that night, and figured out the scaler, and it helped the next day. But honestly I shouldn't have to underclock it in order for it to last even a day, a bit ridiculous to me.
enaime said:
Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I have a Touch enhanced, and am using the CPU scaler just dandy. Just play with the settings a bit, and you'll get the hang of it. Try LOW:100 and HIGH:234, to start out, then go from there.
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So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
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Visit the Kaiser forum. We're having the same issue. GPS seems to be the problem with me. As soon as I turned on GPS, it sucked my battery 5% in 5-7 minutes. Then down to 73% from 97% in 3 hours.
enaime said:
Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I didn't configure anything particular, just installed it and set the overclock and CPU Scaler.
I talk an average of 2 hours daily. Since 6 am until 8 pm. I always get home with 15% or less. Using batt status with omap overclocking to 247. Average use of pda also.
Bingoig11 said:
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
enaime said:
Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
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Im on 87/201/247 and boost to 260MHz, everything works fine, only some flickering when it runs on 87MHz..
But the battery life is quite good as it lasts for 2 to 3 days (light to medium usage, some texts, some phone calls, seldom Wifi)..
I have to say that the stock battery lasts much less then the one I got from Brando.. although the amperage is the same
I finally use xcpuscalar only for conserving battery, not for overclock. In another threads some people suffering from spotted, patched even broken LCDs and I do not take the risk to overclock Elfin because of possible overheat of the CPU and the CPU is most likely very close to the LCD due to the thinness of the Elfin. If the CPU is hotter overclocked than it is on normal speed it could cause spot, patch or even damage on LCD. This is my opinion.
Xcpuscalar is able to downgrade dynamically the CPU speed against Batterystatus which is only able to set one speed for the CPU, that's why I chosen xcpuscalar.
It seems to work fine even after soft reset... but 87MHz is very slow for me... it speeds up very sluggish. I use 169, 182 and 195MHz settings.
Will see the energy spare on the battery.
My HD2 is running at around 20% CPU usage when idle according to BATTClock. This is even after a hard reset with just Batclock installed, no radios on, and HTC Sense shutdown (just on old Windows today screen). Is this normal? No wonder the battery life is so short.
My Touch Pro generally shows 1-2% CPU usage when idle even with phone and push email on.
Task manager doesn't show any processes or application using that amount of CPU. Is it just Battclock that is wrong or is something else going on? I have turned off all location services.
Nick
Interesting fact. Needs more research though...
I've tried everything I can think of, including switching off automatic backlight sensing, location settings, etc. and Battclock still shows around 20% with nothing running. Any ideas for a more sophisticated tool to monitor the CPU? Does anyone else with Battclock installed notice this?
And if battclokck use 20% of cpu ?
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And if battclokck use 20% of cpu ?
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BattClock itself does use almost no CPU. But HD2 has the ability to lower the CPU speed. I use a Microsoft API to get the idle percentage. Apparently this Microsoft API does not correct for the CPU frequence change?
You can check with a Task Manager, which process consume how much CPU, like FdcSoft TaskMgr. Then you can also check if BattClock is wrong.
I am planning to add another method for measuring the CPU spent, so for now you can better first check if BattClock is right or not. I have a Touch Diamond and there the CPU percentage is reported the same as the Task Manager.
WEll, mine is 56% atm and i have no idea why.
the only reason i can think of is g-alarm and messenger live
On a device that changes the CPU clock to meet demands, CPU percentage means nothing if you don't have a way to know at the same time what the current clock is.
And yes, Battclock itself might not use a lot of CPU, but it seems its way to draw itself on top of the menu bar is not very efficient. A bit flaky, the redraws are not clean, and I wouldn't be surprised if the system calls it uses do use a lot of CPU.
kilrah said:
On a device that changes the CPU clock to meet demands, CPU percentage means nothing if you don't have a way to know at the same time what the current clock is.
And yes, Battclock itself might not use a lot of CPU, but it seems its way to draw itself on top of the menu bar is not very efficient. A bit flaky, the redraws are not clean, and I wouldn't be surprised if the system calls it uses do use a lot of CPU.
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Mmmm....I wonder what you're basing your comments on. Are you saying that ZuinigeRijder is lying?
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Mmmm....I wonder what you're basing your comments on. Are you saying that ZuinigeRijder is lying?
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The Qualcomm CPU, the one the HD2 has, reduces it's clock speed when it is not needed to run at full capacity to save battery life.
i.e. If the CPU is running at 1Ghz, and a program is using 1%, it will drop the clock speed (due to lack of activity). Say it then drops to 100Mhz, it will then be running at 10% of the CPU clock speed.
A simple way to check wether battclock influences the readings somehow (which I don't really believe) would be to turn it off and check, as zuinigerijder said, with fdcsoft advanced taskmanager.
BTW I also get ~20% usage when idle, in some manila interfaces I get to lowest values of 7%, but then back to ~15% and then again ~20%
No way to know the current clock of the cpu?
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The Qualcomm CPU, the one the HD2 has, reduces it's clock speed when it is not needed to run at full capacity to save battery life.
i.e. If the CPU is running at 1Ghz, and a program is using 1%, it will drop the clock speed (due to lack of activity). Say it then drops to 100Mhz, it will then be running at 10% of the CPU clock speed.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. When I start a new program the CPU% drops briefly to 1-2% before climbing again. I guess this is the device ramping the processor back up before launching the program, hence dropping idle usage from 10-20% of say 100Mhzto 1-2% of 1000MHz.
Cheers
Nick
Extract ,power settings, from omnia 2,is it possible?Put it on htc hd2,in cab format,regulate the speed on the CPU and save the battery life?Anyone?