ei mates
apologies if this has been posted before. i was wondering what gps settings you guys use which in your opinion optimizes the gps application. i did read that comport 4 is normally used for the programs. may i ask what you guys use for the hardware? i noticed that setting comport 4 for BOTH software and hardware takes absolutely ages to get sat fixes. at the moment i'm using comport 4 for the programs and comport 5 for the hardware. anyone with better settings? and what's the baud rate that you use?
thanks and cheers
Hi there,...
I am not sure what you exactly requesting, but I am playing with the standard settings of WM6 and have a fix within 30 sek (maybe a little more sometimes).
This means:
GPS programmport = 4
GPS hardwareport = *not set* / baud 4800
By the way... this with the Radio Rom 1.50 !!! Think this also might be important. If you use older ROM you should this about flashing Radio maybe!
Find according ROMs here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319993
Due to ActiveSync within every 2 days quickGPS is always up to date (mmh,.. ok most of time let me say)
Example using TT 6.030
Getting into car... activate TT (and GPS with it) and setting the target location.
Then I mount this Ameo in the car holder... this approx takes over all 30-60 sek. after this time TT has the fix, I can start navigation and startup.
Ofter heard about problems with the GPS, but I can not confirm.
Not exactly what you like to know, but maybe my experience is a little useful.
The problem could also be, that the chipset is not the Sirfstar one. So it could have some difficulties with connection in forests, among tall buildings etc...
thanks for the response. on what i'm after is the settings you put in your gps. i didn't upgrade my unit to wm6 nor do i have plans of doing so. with that i still use comport 4 for the programs and so far comport 5 seems to be give me around 30-45 seconds to get a sat fix. i was wondering if there are other comport settings for the hardware (coupled with the baud rate) that the others use...and works well with them.
thanks!
Hi,
I am currently looking for a piece of software that will do a specific job, or possibly a better solution to what I am trying to do. Let me give you a little bit of background...
I have got an O2 XDA Mini S, and a Parrot hands-free kit that does not support the A2DP bluetooth profile (only the handsfree profile). I am currently using TomTom 6 on my XDA with a bluetooth GPS unit. Everything works really nicely together, except I cannot get instructions from TomTom through my parrot (which is ultimately my goal).
The only way I can see of getting the TT instructions through my Parrot is to make use of the programs floating about that allow you to turn on and off redirection of sound through bluetooth. The idea I had was that if there was a program about (or maybe even write something myself) that would be able to signal when the sound coming out of the XDA exceeded and then dropped back below a threshold level, and then somehow link that into the bluetooth redirection programs, I could basically have any sound that is produced go through the Parrot only when they occur (including obviously the TT instructions).
Does anybody have any ideas on this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
You probably also want to haunt any TomTom forum sites (if any even exist).
As a final option, look into Mortscripts. People have done amazing tricks with Mortscripts, and this might be just the ticket. Mort haunts these boards, and may pipe in with an "I can (or cannot) do that with Mortscript" too...
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
Myrddin Wyllt said:
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
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To be honest, it's not too bad through the speakers although if I have my radio on which I usually do, sometimes it can be a little bit hard to hear, and it would be nice to just have the radio mute while it gives me the directions.
It's more of a "want" than a "need" really.
Thanks very much for the info
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
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It is quite easy for programs to detect when you're in a call - MortScript, I presume, probably can detect that quite easily as it's an overall Windows feature and will probably have a readily available part in the API.
The problem is not with turning the bluetooth on and off, it's actually detecting when TomTom is giving an instruction. To be honest I think I'll look into MortScript and if that can't do it then I'll probably just give up.
Detecting phone calls isn't that easy, and it's especially not easy to make a check in a simple procedural script language like MortScript (up to WM5, there's no way to check whether a call is active, you have to monitor all the time if a call is accepted or hung up).
Detecting sound output of another application is entirely impossible - at least for most applications. If the app opens the output channel only during output (which most don't because it takes valuable time and causes ugly "click" noises on some devices), one could maybe query the number of free output channels - but that would need a CPU hog monitoring all the time, or half of the message would be over until it's detected.
And even if that would work, there's simply no way to redirect output to a BT headset (except with A2DP). At least on most devices. Once there was a simple way to do that (you just had to open a virtual port, and as long as it's open, everything was redirected similar to the A2DP way nowadays), but most manufacturers didn't implement it, and nowadays it seems like no modern device supports it anymore. (Had it for test purposes in a MortPlayer beta, no user reported it works...)
So, to put it short: Currently it's impossble. Maybe WM8 might change that... (Few hope for WM7, it's proposed to have the same kernel as WM5 and WM6.x)
Hello every body,
Can anyone know if TomTom is ok in htc touch dual?
If yes, can anyone give me a link, were i can download it, and recent map of europe?
best regards
I have TomTom 6 Navigator running fine on my Touch Dual, using a Qstarz BT318 external GPS. There were no problems during installation. Although it is a little awkward having to carry the external GPS, at least it has its own 1100 mAh battery so both devices last a long time in GPS mode.
I couldn't find the TomTom software available to download anywhere (legally). I bought the DVD from this company: http://www.digital-fusion.co.uk/
Item: 1T90.015
Quantity: 1
Product: Tomtom Navigator 6 Software + Maps Of Western Europe Dvd Unit Price: GBP 60.81 (Excl. VAT)
Very impressed by the TomTom software - even with a 2.6" picture, the 3D view is very usable whilst driving.
Thank you very much
Best reagards
if you want to be "naughty" then searching will get you where you want. We can't provide links here I don't think, but all the usual torrenting sites have it.
My (bought) copy, weirdly, boots up when I switch my phone on - it's not in the startup but it does anyway. Perhaps cause I took the shortcut off my home screen?
Also, one thing to be aware of - if your phone is in vibrate mode, and you start Tom Tom, when you have finished & later set your phone to non-vibrate, you'll find it's muted your ringer volume. I missed loads of calls before I realised what the culprit was.
Other than that it works fine on my touch dual, with a similar GPS antenna (incidentally, just posted elsewhere that my battery on my antenna just lasted since Sunday afternoon (it's not Thurs eve) since I didn't realise I'd left it on. A bit astonished at the battery life of the thing!!!
Garmin XT also gets good reviews, some claim it's better.
no problems here w the tom tom.
just take into account the mute fact.
anyway the external gps takes longer than other devices to work fine. the com ports are more complicated than i thought. but nothing u cant solve in a day or two.
i cant put a shortcut in my homescreen. anybody knows how to?
thanks
erkv said:
no problems here w the tom tom.
just take into account the mute fact.
anyway the external gps takes longer than other devices to work fine. the com ports are more complicated than i thought. but nothing u cant solve in a day or two.
i cant put a shortcut in my homescreen. anybody knows how to?
thanks
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shortcut: look in your today screen items - it's in there.. or should be... in fact it should've appeared by default
em, i found the ext gps easy... just use "other"... NMEA... I think.. took 5 mins to work out.
let me know if you have probs, i can check out the settings used
i know but its doenst appear,
anyway its not a big deal. plus, i guess its a version problem.
and... talking about the ext gps, i guess the prob doenst come from tom tom but the pda. i took me time to figure out the com port number to paired the device.
i have it as com 7, com 4, 4800, check gps automatic.
btw, i didnt use other nmea because i have a bt gps receiver.
i forgot what com port i choose at tomtom.
but no need for that when i connected it thru google maps.
dont know. just works.
thank you for your help.
Tomtom not visible when receiving call
I used to have a HTC 8310 smartphone (Mobile 5 and Tomtom 5.20). The good thing was, that when Tomtom was working and I then received a call on thr 8310, I would see the Tomtom screen again after a few seconds while continuing talking. Only the Tomtom voice would de-activate while speaking to the other person. That was excellent, because I could still see where I was supposed to be driving while speaking to another person on the phone at the same time!
I now have a NIKI 100 (Mobile 6.1 and Tomtom 6) and I find that the Tomtom screen does not re-appear immediately after accepting a call. The screen stays on the dial-screen the whole time. Only after the call is finished, Tomtom comes back automatically.
Does anyone know a way to change this, because it's pretty annoying.
Thanks in advance!
I have the same "problem". Before on my wizard it worked like you describe and now it stays in the dial-screen and Tomtom doesn't reappear. Also when the call is finished I have to switch back manually by clicking on the small icons in the corner on the right bottom.
I also have a NIKI 100, Tomtom 6 and WM6.1 (Niki Project).
Does anybody knows how to fix this?
Which version of which GPS software works on the Touch HD ? i used to use the Miomap and IGo8 on the Touch Cruise but cannot get them to work.
Perhaps with a tweak ?
thanks, yves
Just search the forum.
There are threads for iGO8, TomTom and Navigon. All of them work on the HTC Touch HD (with some tweaks).
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723 works without tweaks.
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/
I believe you can get them all working with the right tweaks.
I've used TomTom for years, without any problem. Currently using v7.910 on my Touch HD and it looks nice.
For fun I also downloaded Navigon (there's a two week free trial with full functionality) and with the help of a couple of xml files have it running. Different look and feel to Tom Tom but I like it. Probably worth a look for the two week free trial if nothing else.
Have seen iGo8 and I must say I like the look of it. Have seen a thread with details of a tweak, though that may have been for an earlier release.
Currently waiting for my TomTom services to run out (speed cameras and traffic) and then I may switch. The UI looks fantastic, but have to justify the cost to the missus .....
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iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
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I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.
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I don't know what you have messed up, but for me it works just fine. Not a single "bug" you mentioned has occured, maybe you are just using the wrong version / configuration.
I had also some problems in the beginning (dropping the gps), but after setting up the right configuration it works just fine for me now.
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You are correct, it works fine. However, occasional GPS drop does happen, and, from what I understand, it happens with all softwares, not just IGO. I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
Thanks
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I would also be curious to know what configuration could possible effect GPS dropping issue?
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For me it was the wrong baud rate. It must be set to 9600. As I was using GPSGate I had to change the baud rate within GPSGate and not in iGO8.
loadme said:
iGO works but is not really useable in my opinion
there is no "programm close" button in expert mode, only one in simple mode.
program nearly never really gets closed by command.
voice from the navigation continues in programm-volume-setting, even after you are back in touchFlow and used task manager to stop the program.
it still runs and runs ..
a next problem is the standby mode.
you cant set it up, that while iGO is active, standby wont happen.
at the moment, you start navigation, wait some seconds without doing anything, but listening and the HD drops in standby.
and NO i dont want to set new windows standby settings everytime i want to use a navigation tool :/
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Kinda strange that you are incapable of setting up a navigation software like igo on the Touch HD.
I myself only had to set the resolution and voila, all worked perfectly.
All the so called 'failures' are entirely untrue from my point of view.
Cause they work perfectly ! (yes also shutdown in expert mode), maybe your failure is using the correct settings in the sys.txt file...
Therfore I have to disagree with you completely on the IGO satisfaction scale.
I give it a 9,7 out of 10 (cause it can always be improved).
Tomtom is great and also is IGo in my opinion (havn't tried the rest om my HD).
with regards,
Ikkezelf
I am using Garmin Mobile XT, and it looks and works a treat.......
IGO8, does look good but there seems to be a lot of screen size problems for the HD. I too have tried IGO8 and all the stuffing around to get the correct screen resolution files sent me nuts.
I am using co-pilot 7, working well so far, especially when I remember to switch it from walking mode to car
A quick summary of my experiences with iGo 8, TomTom 7 and Garmin Mobile XT on the HD, in the UK.
iGo 8
Pros:
Has the nicest looking graphics, with terrain elevation and 3D models of major landmarks (and many more buildings too, in major cities) and a good variety of views.
Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
Routing between multiple maps installed.
Cons:
Long startup time.
Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
The voice directions have been misleading when crossing a roundabout over a motorway, telling me to incorrectly take the first exit from a roundabout, when the direction arrow clearly shows the second. I verified by plotting a route on to the motorway that it also said "first exit" for that exit too. Very strange - I haven't seen problems with other roundabouts, yet.
Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
TomTom 7
Pros:
Reasonable across the board.
Cons:
Average default POIs, finding cash machines but not most shops.
Garmin Mobile XT
Pros:
Great default POIs, being able to track down most shops, etc.
Great free online services, such as Google local search, cheapest petrol
prices nearby, weather, traffic reports, flight status and Panoramio.
Being able to install subsets of maps, to reduce space on the device.
Cons:
Very slow graphics engine.
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[*]Text-to-speech support for reading out road names, if you have enough memory (sometimes needs a reboot or to disable TouchFlo to get enough - sadly it doesn't default to the normal non-TTS if there's not enough memory, so you have to turn it back manually).
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I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
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Long startup time.
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What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
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Incorrect speed limits in my area (30 instead of 60-70 on some roads!)
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That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
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Bad default POIs, listing the nearest cash machine as 25 miles away, when I was standing right next to one and no shops that I was looking for.
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Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).
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I'm using the latest iGO8.0.x release and haven't noticed any memory problem at all. I think it is a problem of the 8.3.X release(s), as they are not optimized for our devices yet. There are some sys.txt tweaks regarding to the tts functionality out there, maybe they will fix it for you.
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I'll take a look, thanks. The normal voices are fine, just not the tts. It could be due to the high quality tts rather than the 11KHz pack.
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What do you mean by that? Mine is up and ready after 10 seconds (or something like that).
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It's not unusable, it just takes longer than the others. Sometimes I want to quickly look something up. My usage scenario and my opinion of course
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That's not iGO8's fault at all. The speed limits are integrated in the card material, mostly coming from tele atlas. For Germany the cards are really good.
Haven't noticed any lacks of pois yet. But you can easily add pois (look for poi plaza).
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I did say it was my experience in the UK. Also, I think that they do count as negative points against iGo as they make it less useful to me compared to the competition. Giving incorrect voice directions is bad, especially when the visual direction is correct. I'm glad you're happy with it - the graphics engine, buildings and terrain really are good. I'd love to see some online integration like Garmin, especially Google local search, which would make the POIs less of an issue.
Gps sofware in uae
Just for anybody here in UAE ... Sygic Drive 2008 from ORION MIDDLE EAST.. works great on my HD.. and its maps are more updated for the GCC regions.. atleast here in UAE..
My comparison between Garmin mobile XT Vs Mapking R12
hello
yesterday i have chance to fully try out my GPS function on my new HD
This is my findings...
I have expirient using Mapking R12 with my Tytn2 and it is much faster in the term of rerouting if u miss any turn,the accuracy is much better but the graphic is quite "cartoon"... anyway it is quite simple to use and straight forward....
With garmin mobile XT i found that, graphic is cool, many additional information such as speed limit, traffic light and ETA....time...
but it is not that easy to handle in term of finding your destination, etc...
it is slow responding and this can cause u miss some turn since u been passing that turn about 5-10 meters then only in the graphic u will reach there... the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
anyway i'm not really sure this is due to the sofware or the GPS chip... since i'm comparing my expirient with 2 different device that running with 2 different sofware
anyway i will try to run my HD with mapking and look the different....
Comparison TomTom 7, IGO 8 and INAVI
TOMTOM 7:
It has the most user-friendly interface and most stright-forward menu. You get whatever you want in just several pushes of buttons. Maps are very precise in west Europa and I think in the USA. In other countries maps aren't that good if they exist. It computes almost the best way. Better than all other programs.
IGO 8
It is the most complete navigation program. It has plenity of options. The drawback of this is that you will need more time to do the same thing. The most useful function not available in TomTom is easy moving and zoming map during navigation. It has maps for much more countries for Israel, Eastern Europa and they are more precise (there are even 3D buildings) and they take less space. If you travel outside Europa and USA or like exploring options then it will be the best choice.
INAVI
It is good. It's the only choice for eastern Europe and some other countries. It has many options (more than TomTom and less than IGO) but navigation is less easy and less precise than others. You can choose it if there is no maps for the country where you go.
Personally I choose TomTom 7 because of it's stright-forward interface. In the car you don't have a lot of time to play with options. 3D buildings don't interest me (I can see them through the window) and I live in west Europe.
Just installed Garmin Mobile XT
Updated to version 5.00.20wp
I'm impressed, works full screen and very smooth, Garmin Online is very well integrated, the interface is clean and easy to navigate, you can really just install and drive/walk off (I did not have to do anything to activate the GPS just plug in the MicroSD card and it automatically installed the soft and I could start navigating)
This does not mean that things cannot be customized, from my first look at the settings it looks like just about anything can be customized.
The integration with WM seems very complete too, from the large "Where to" button I can select a contact and it will have a large "Go" button to start navigating to it.
This morning I tested it in my car and I even got a phonecall during navigating which went flawless, the phone screen came on but I went back to Garmin Mobile via the Start menu and it continued navigating (the data connection was stopped so no more Garmin Online service but it did not stop the navigation)
Voice prompts and warning signals were quite clear through the HD speaker.
The only thing is that the location of my car holder might not be ideal on the open road it was ok but the GPS connection became quite erratic when I entered the city, the GPS info screen showed only 3 satellites that flickered on and off, when I took it out of the holder and held it to the windscreen things got better.
hijamir said:
the speed indicator also slow 10 Kmph...then my speedo meter
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this is normal, the speedo in your car is set slower than the actual speed by design (so you don't think you're driving the speed limit but you're actually speeding). If GPS connection is good GPS speed can be accurate to about 0.1km.
On road GPSes there is always a 1 second lag (1Hz, professional and aviation GPSes can have multiple Hz updates) so accelerating/decelerating will not be correct but for constant speeds the GPS indication is superior to most cars speedos.
I've never had a gps device before, and am pretty new to the whole Winmo scene in general. I saw someone mention that Route 66 worked without tweaking so I bought a discounted version of their Route 66 Navigate 7. I wasn't able to install it directly from the CD, but their customer support responded within an hour or two telling me to copy the memory card directory from the CD directly to my HD's card and run the .cab from the phone.
Works great. Now I just have to fool around with it so I know how to actually use it effectively.. lol.
From their website they list the HD as compatible for their latest "8" version too. I just decided to get the old one for cheap since I don't really have a need for gps. Maybe I'll upgrade at some point if it's worth it.
I have some GPS related questions. I am looking at replacing my dedicated TomTom device with TomTom GPS software on my HD2.
1. Can the device still play music through the standard media player when running the GPS software
2. What happens to the GPS and Music which are both running when a call comes in. Currently music pauses automatically when a call comes in
3. Any idea how much of a network hit the GPS software has i.e. will I get a large bill at the end of the month. I know it all depends on how much you use the GPS software but just to get a unit sizing assume a 30 minute GPS journey.
4. Does TomTom work via the Navipanel
5. Does TomTom provide a demo download (as CoPilot did)
Thanks
1. Yes.
2. Don't know - I 'd have to set it up and try it but I've rcvd calls during Tomtomand when music is playing and as music will play while Tomtom is running I guess calls would come thru both together as well.
3. GPS doesn't touch the network unless you opt of optional traffic warnings etc - the GPS signal and hence navigation is totally independent of network connections so is free of any cost.
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I have some GPS related questions. I am looking at replacing my dedicated TomTom device with TomTom GPS software on my HD2.
1. Can the device still play music through the standard media player when running the GPS software
2. What happens to the GPS and Music which are both running when a call comes in. Currently music pauses automatically when a call comes in
3. Any idea how much of a network hit the GPS software has i.e. will I get a large bill at the end of the month. I know it all depends on how much you use the GPS software but just to get a unit sizing assume a 30 minute GPS journey.
4. Does TomTom work via the Navipanel
5. Does TomTom provide a demo download (as CoPilot did)
Thanks
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regarding 5. above, have a look here http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/index.php it should help
Thanks folks