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I need PUSH email from my company email account HOW??????

Hi
I think title says most of it.
I need push email from my companies corporate email system.
We have a Blackberry server but I have yet to find a working Blackberry client for the Wizard?
On my old PDA2K I have been using Smartner Duality which worked great HOWEVER this does not seem to be compaitble with the Wizard so suddenly I have lost my email capability and need to get it back urgently.
Any ideas out there folks?
Cheers.
Robin
PS Smartner client on my desktop in the office used to 'forward' all my outlook mail via a special server they had and thence to my PDA2K.
It is this kind of functionality I am lookiing to replace UNLESS someone actually has the Blackberry client software!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for MS's push you'll need to wait for a ROM update with AKU 2.0
for the time being you can just set your wizard to sync with your exchange server over the net (wifi/gprs etc) every x minutes

You can try vgsmail by geoffreycross to be found in the thread 'push-email now available' it's developed for 2003 & there are posts by yzzard to get working under 2005 as well. Need to add some reg.keys manual.
Cheers, M

DeanJ said:
for MS's push you'll need to wait for a ROM update with AKU 2.0
for the time being you can just set your wizard to sync with your exchange server over the net (wifi/gprs etc) every x minutes
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I WISH.
My company is running a REAL OLD version of Exchange server and our Firewall will not allow PDA's to connect!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately this is not an option for me.
Robin

oltp said:
You can try vgsmail by geoffreycross to be found in the thread 'push-email now available' it's developed for 2003 & there are posts by yzzard to get working under 2005 as well. Need to add some reg.keys manual.
Cheers, M
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Hi
I don't think we have IMAP enabled on our mail server and I would still haev a firewall problem so this won't work for me either. :evil:
Robin

Do they support the imap protocol? if so try vgsmail.
Sorry didn't catch your last post, forget this one pls.

I doubt they actually block PDAs since Activesync just runs over port 80 and the mail apps just use standard mail ports. More likely they don't have the appropriate software set up to active sync. Sounds like you might be better off waiting until the next ROM updates (Rumors put it as close as this week, but deffinetly before the end of Q1 this year) and possibly looking into a hosted exchange solution and having your work email forward there.

Robster,
I don't know if Vodafone offers the same thing as T-Mobile here in the states but see if they have corporate email access available, T-Mobile does and it works ok, similar to Smartner (i used that when I was running 2003SE) it works on my network and it is really locked down from outside access and they have disabled pop and imap access plus we are running Lotus Notes (man it sucks)

Setting Up Direct Push

Hi Everyone,
I am having a retard moment. Yesterday I found a document in one of the threads with a Word doc on setting up Direct Push mail. Of course I did not save it because I swore I would remember the thread. Does anyone happen to have the instructions?
I have already updated my phone to the proper ROM.
Thanks

Nevermind. Figured it out.
Wow, so far WM5 makes Blackberry look like a child's toy. Let just hope that M$ will continue support this platform.

Agreed as far as I am concerned push mail with WM5 is the way to go, no need for a BES Server or other application on my desktop to route email.

Is direct push out? Where can I download it? I thought it wouldn't be out until April.

jklny
Not offically there is a Qtek TEST Rom on the FTP that has Push, but you must have a 2003 Exchange Server running SP2 to use it.

marka2k, thanks for the info. We are actually upgrading SP2 this Friday. Thanks!
Would you happen to have the full name of the ROM? Thanks.

ftp://[email protected]/Uploads/RUU_Prodigy_2080701_101_11310_Qtek_WWE_Test.exe

marka2k said:
jklny
Not offically there is a Qtek TEST Rom on the FTP that has Push, but you must have a 2003 Exchange Server running SP2 to use it.
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Wrong ... you may use other servers then Exchange Server 2003. Exchange server has built in push mail. But there exists several other push mail servers that can also do the push. Some of these servers has also client files for WM5.

Einstein
My point (maybe not well said) was in able to use the built in push email of the Qtek TEST ROM you need Exchange 2003 and SP2
Sorry for the confusion

For push mail you need:
1. A mailbox: Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes Server, IMAP or POP3
2. A pushmail server: Any server that's SyncML compatible
3. A client software on your mobile: 3rd party software or Qtek new test ROM
I digged a liitle bit into these issues during the past days. I'm going to put up an test system with push mail soon to my Qtek 9100.

Thanks for the link... I'm downloading it now to give a whirl.

Push Email
FYI- I have been using a "push" email system for several years using my XDA II and my office Lotus notes system by using the Mnotes program. In "enterprise" mode, it can be installed on the server, although I'm using my desktop as the server b/c its the easiest to set up.
Only real problem was finding a compatible VPN and I'm using Movian VPN
Cheers

I am using the qtek rom with 4smartphone.net, and the push system is amazing, believe me it takes about 30 seconds from sending a mail to myself and it appearing on my device via push, its that quick

Push mail
Hi Einstein!
I'm interested to exchange information with you about push mail setup etc. My email is vesku ät email piste com (laita mailia). I have Q9100 too.
Regards,
VESKU

Here you can preview server and client view of pushmail:
http://www.htcclub.net/en/toontips.php?ID=10
And here you can read a research where RIM is compared with Windows Mobile messaging
http://www.htcclub.net/en/toonnieuwsartikel.php?ID=111

Here you can preview server and client view of pushmail:
http://www.htcclub.net/en/toontips.php?ID=10
And here you can read a research where RIM is compared with Windows Mobile messaging
http://www.htcclub.net/en/toonnieuwsartikel.php?ID=111

Well, I got 'push' running on the QTek beta ROM. Took a little fidling since not using Exchange Front-End servers and I have SSL and Forms enabled.
See this doc: http://www.petri.co.il/problems_with_forms_based_authentication_and_ssl_in_activesync.htm
Now, I just need to modify the timeouts as recommended by several people. First, I have to find the docs explaing it again.

chrissyboy6969 said:
ftp://[email protected]/Uploads/RUU_Prodigy_2080701_101_11310_Qtek_WWE_Test.exe
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Hi,
Is it only me who can not download this from the link above?
thanks.
Dexter_1975

dexter_1975 said:
Is it only me who can not download this from the link above?
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And service/server that supports push mail ...

I'm a bit confused. My exchange server is now upgraded to SP2 and I installed the test rom. Mail is coming in but not 'realtime'. I am getting emails which can be 5 to 10 minutes after I receive it on my desktop Outlook. Any ideas why the delay?
Thanks.

Lotus Notes Push email S200

The company that I work for has push email but most users are using Strawberries !!!(OK I Know its Blackberries), can I use my S200 to get the same functionality?
If so what do I need to do?
Cheers
:lol:

If your e-mail account is hosted under an Exchange Server with SP2, the push mail on the Qtek S200 works properly !

If your comapnay is using lotus notes then no . Unless they run a Domino server through an Exchange server.
My company runs notes and I auto forward my mail to an exchange server where I get push functionality.
You can look here and see if your company could use this . www.commontime.com

AKU2 (push email) providers - experience

Anyone got any recommendations for push email providers. Or just names to compare.
So far I have tried:
4smartphone.net - good service but not cheap
mail2web.com - good and cheap
any other recommendations ?

colonel said:
Anyone got any recommendations for push email providers. Or just names to compare.
So far I have tried:
4smartphone.net - good service but not cheap
mail2web.com - good and cheap
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From what I've gathered so far, go with one of those two.

or register your own domain and build your own exchange server, works fine

adonker said:
or register your own domain and build your own exchange server, works fine
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Just like that?

If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)

Download the latest rom with the AKU2 feature pack from MS build in, install it on your device and you can use the Direct Push function

adonker said:
If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)
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Yes yes, I know all this... but you can get exactly the same thing for four pounds a month with 4smartphone.net and they take care of 90% of the hassle for you. Setting up an exchange server is beyond 95% of people with handhelds. And even then, I may be being charitable.
Even downloading a dodgy copy of Exchange via bittorrent is more hassle than getting 4smartphone.net to host it for you.

adonker said:
If you would like to have direct push mail from Microsoft on your Universal, it can be done with MS Exchange server SP2
having Echange SP2 on your own (Hosted) server, and building your own certificate on this server (domain) which you later can import on your Universal, you can use Direct Push mail (Https) fron the Universal to your Echange server.
I'm using it,..and the mobile active sync is constantly keeping the GPRS HTTPS connection allive and is syncronising constantly my inbox (agenda, contacts, email and tasks) Not the same as blackberry, but only several seconds delay (depends on gprs network, umts will be faster)
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I would rather look for a personal assistant at the cost of your solution

haha,....sorry. Im a system engineer.

I've been using mail2web with my XDA Exec for the last few days and it works really well. Pretty good for a free service!

Been using 4smartphone.net trial for a few days now... My Exec's mail keeps de-syncing with the Exchange server.
I figured that if I MOVE emails between folders a lot, I start getting ActiveSync problems with error code 0x80070008 and I can't sync anymore. After a soft reset, I can sync again, but the folders on my Exec are now out of sync with folders on the Exchange server. i.e. some mails that were moved are now in Inbox of Exchange, whereas they have been moved to another mail folder on my Exec.
Seems too unreliable for me :|

My take on 4smartphone.net is that its a bit more professional then mail2web. It also ensures that emails sent are stamped with the email address you want to use (i.e. the one fwded/pop3ed to 4smartphone).
mail2web is a little more DIY, however the FAQ is good.
Ultimately I have opted to use mail2web as its only $1.99 a month vs $3.99 a month for 4smartphone (also have to keep up my IGN subscription
rgds

I found 4smartphone.net quite reliable.
did you setup manually - ? I did, maybe the autosetup has an issue.
are you syncing over wifi ? this has to be done manually
have 4smartphone.net given any reason why folder moving should case a trouble ?

colonel said:
have 4smartphone.net given any reason why folder moving should case a trouble ?
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I haven't actually contacted them yet... I've been googling 0x80070008 and found it to be memory related issues on the device. I'm thinking memory leak leading to lack of memory on my device -> ActiveSync dies.

yeah, could be too many things running as well.
I haven't rebooted for 2 weeks now (since the new O2 update) - famous last words !

what is that aku2 thing and can I use push mail on WM2003se? thnx

no. u can use activesync over a GPRS/3G with wm 2003se. look at mail2web.com FAQs.
however this is not push, its periodic activesync.
push email is where your device gets email as soon as its delivered.
this means that you get the email straight away. the technical difference is that push (in WM5) is server driven and not device driven.
I presume you don't have a universal as they are all WM5.
rgds

colonel said:
the technical difference is that push (in WM5) is server driven and not device driven.
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I have a question: does this mean that you don't pay for the data required to send the e-mail to your device? The one thing that's held me back from diving into push e-mail so far is the worry of going over my data limit (5mb/month on O2 - I can't afford any extra...) and paying too much on my contract.
If MMS messages are free to receive, is it the same for push e-mail messages because the server is initiating the connection? Or do we still have to pay? If you could answer this for me I'd really appreciate it, so thanks in advance
Mach

You'd still have to pay.

thanks for answer colonel. I will look at mail2web.com.

Wireless Sync? (GPRS)

Hi all,
Is there an application or service that will push my mail, contacts, agenda, tasks etc from my pc to my mobile and visa versa through GPRS where ever I am.
My pc is online 24/7 and it would be great if I can sync everything wireless (with GPRS).
I do have an own domain but no exchange server.
Domain is running on a Linux hosting.
Thanks in advance!

Intellisync will do that:
http://www.intellisync.com/pages/Products/Express/Request-a-Trial/
It's usually bundled as part of a carrier's service (vzw wireless sync is based on intellisync) but they do have downloads for individuals.

Thanks!
Gonna check it out.

Looks good but a bit expensive tbh...
Isnt there a less expensive way

http://live.mail2web.com/ - it's free and you sync everything that you normally sync with Outlook. Get both your desktop to sync to it and so when you're out your PDA can sync with it and be up-to-date.

Wicked, gonna check it!

Don't want to be to picky
But I have my own domain and would like to use that domain as email address, like I do now.
I'm checking the mail2web site and you have to use an email like : [email protected]
Any other suggestions?

Create some rules so that Outlook (desktop) forwards incoming mail on your own domain to the mail2web address. That way you can still check them on your PDA. Remember to set the "Reply To" field on emails composed on the PDA to your own domain!
There probably are some other services that will allow the use of your own domain but they will more than likely NOT be free though

They don't have to be completly free, but I dont want to pay 150 euro's a year like intellisync.com charges.
Cheers

www.4smartphone.com is good for you :
- You use your own email adress (own domain) as sender
- You synchronize Outlook desktop (Outlook 2003 included) and Outlook Mobile (Push Mail)
- It's 6.99$/month (83.88$/year)
I use 4smartphone since 3 months and I'm very happy !

Thanks m8!
Sounds nice, gonna check that out.
Cheers

coeptum, thanks a million for helping me setting up an account with 4smartphones!
It works great!
I love it

Hi Panja,
Have you used 4smartphone service, is it good? Please let me know
Peace...

I Tried the Intellisync service. It is like emoze. A small app runs on your PC and you have to be connected to Internet. Wont work for me. I am trying out 4smartphone. 4smartphone is cheap too only $48/Year for the lowest service while intellisync charges $180/year.
Cheers'
Peace

Yes, I'm using 4smartphones atm, works great!
I'm trying the $6,99, professional service which has a 15day trial.