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I'm prepping my phone for a nice long day at jury duty and I'm looking for an MP3 player prog complete with a today plugin so it's easy to control from the today screen. I tried searching but there's so many out there, I wanna know what you guys use. Thanks
I use MortPayer
Conduits Pocket Player is the best IMO, but it's not free.
I use PocketMusic, the basic version of which is free. Very nice player.
However when I was on Jury duty a few years ago, they made me leave my phone at their desk (certainly while I was in the courtroom, can't remember whether in the waiting room too).
Andre
You won't be allowed a phone in court and if you are seen with it you could be in serious trouble.
Oh they let us keep our phones. I guess they feel sorry that they leave us in the waiting room for 5 hours before taking us into the courtroom for another 3 hours. What a waste of a day, and they couldn't get a full jury so I have to go back again tomorrow
I'm surprised I was able to use it almost all day and it only got to 40% with Internet, video, and music. Definitely getting my money's worth with the phone right now.
Thanks guys, i'm trying out mortplayer right now
MortPayer does not support wma?
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Conduits Pocket Player is the best IMO, but it's not free.
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i have a crack for it, so, if you need it, pm me.
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MortPayer does not support wma?
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NO. Mort Player support MP3 and OGG.
open source player
Why dont you try the TCPMP player it supports all formats like .wma .mp3 and the sound quality is awesome.
windows media today plug in
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windows media today plug in
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On my wizard, spb to play doesn't control the media player, but it acts as if it is a standalone player. If I start playing something in WMP, then go to the today screen and press play on the plugin, it starts playing a different song. I can play 2 songs at once, and the plugin just scrolls through all my music, insted of my current now playing, which is annoying, cos I have lots of music on my memory card... :?
just press play from the today screen...dont open windows media player...
thats what i do... :idea:
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I've been wanting to get a subscription service that will stream to mobile devices (I mainly use Rhapsody on my pc, and it too will NOT work with mobile devices even though you have the option to use it through a browser-based interface) so I read your post and signed up for the 30 days trial, and sure enough it works over 3G as well.
The only problem I have is when I go to the main page through PIE on my Tytn, it automatically goes to a mobile version of the site, and I can only select certain artists that have been pre-selected based on my genre settings. There is a search line at the top where you can enter artist or album, but there is no Enter or Go button, and pressing Enter on the keyboard does nothing. In other words, I can't navigate to any specific artist, I can only listen to the pre-selected ones. Do you know how to get that search bar to work? If I go to the page on my desktop pc, the interface is totally different and getting to a specific artist is no problem.
I'm not sure what to tell you on the WMP thing... I have no issues with WMP thus far...
Neither of you have tried orb? I can't say enough about it...all of your mp3's on your PC at home are available to you on your phone 24/7. The only drawback is getting the mp3's and always leaving your PC on. It works the same way- you choose your song and it streams to WMP. This will also work for Videos and TV (with the proper setup, slinbox is far better though).
I haven't had any problems with this using wmp.
Patman,
Yes I do have Orb and use it quite a bit, and I do love it!! I stream my music and my recorded TV from my media center pc at home. BUT, the reason I wanted a subscription-based service on my phone is because you can stream any song, any artist any time. I own about 6,000 mp3's that are on my harddrive on my pc at home that I can stream on Orb, but with a subscription-based music service like AOL or Rhapsody, I have the choice of about 2.5 million songs, on-demand, at my fingertips.
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Patman,
Yes I do have Orb and use it quite a bit, and I do love it!! I stream my music and my recorded TV from my media center pc at home. BUT, the reason I wanted a subscription-based service on my phone is because you can stream any song, any artist any time. I own about 6,000 mp3's that are on my harddrive on my pc at home that I can stream on Orb, but with a subscription-based music service like AOL or Rhapsody, I have the choice of about 2.5 million songs, on-demand, at my fingertips.
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Yeah I figured there was a reason.
Does it cost anything per song, or is it a time-based ($xx.00/month) service?
I'm glad others are interested. Subscription music means you pay a flat fee per month (usually around $10) and you can listen to any artist, any album, any song in their entire library whenever and (hopefully soon) wherever you want. It's the holy grail IMO as far as portable music. Especially when you don't want an iPod/MP3 Player, but rather a convergence device like this. The problem is that the flash memory is very slow, and very space limited. Streaming music from a subscription service is the way to go. Orb is a great idea, but you still have to download the songs first. Me personally, I'm fed up with downloading organizing and managing music files. It's just become tedious. I'd rather have a jukebox available at all times with every artist in existence. In other words, I'm sick of collecting music. The new technology has made me look past that.
As I mentioned, AOL Music Now is the only web based service, thus the only one that can work on Windows Mobile (Rhapsody has a web browser plugin but it only works on certain desktop browsers).
Good news though. I just discovered (or is it brand new?) that Music Now supports RSS feeds. This could really be the answer to a having a solid experience using the streaming from a subscription music service on a PPC.
You can save an RSS feed of just about anything. All the artists in your library, your playlists, all the albums, all the songs, top 20 lists, etc.
I'm about to try and find an RSS reader for WM5 that might make this a reality. Even if one doesn't exist that works well, the RSS provides an open source for others to make a music browser type interface. Who knows what will happen. One could potentially make a program for WM that reads the RSS feeds and lets you browse, select, and play music much like the interface on an iPod or something. The difference being you have up to 2 million songs to choose from at any given time.
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Hi anyone know of a good open source, free internet radio streamer? the microsoft one is so poor its unreal. I would like to have something a little better.
regards
Hi Aley,
I'm using MORT Player since Years. You only have to find out the steaming URL and edit the Mort Player Internet-Radio List. It's so easy and there are a lot more functions!
I never used WinAmp.
Chears,
Vitkor
Try KinomaFreeplay. Works very well.
http://kinoma.com/
-Lycox
I use the free GSPlayer, it handles all my MP3 and OGG streams.
Thanks guys for the great posts, is there a way to import these links/ favs to the players or must i manually go to the folder where i saved them to and copy them from the device to pc and visa versa
Here are some good websites for music:
1. http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/
This site is the best of the three and offers more streams than the other two combined so be sure to check this one out first. This site plays the streams in windows media player.
2. http://www.mobtuner.com/
3. http://www.htcradio.com/
These sites work well with GS Player and yes you can save the music streams locations right to your phone to load up quickly with GS Player.
the pandora client works nicely for me. I can post the cab here if you guys cant find it
I vote for GSPlayer. It faster, has less hangups and is easier to use to browse to my radio links folder.
all the above programs are good for streaming radio..... but i've just tried pocketlastfm which works like pandora but you can use it outside of the US. you put in a genre or artist and it continually plays tracks from similar artists/genres...... it's really good!
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the pandora client works nicely for me. I can post the cab here if you guys cant find it
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I´m trying to find the cab for Pandora.
I´ve found one but it seems that it´s not working fine on the Diamond. Some errors on the start screen visual basic lines... I hit ignore and it appears it connected just fine. I managed to get the keyboard out to log me into pandora, and I could see my radio stations, but when tryied to hear to one of them, it hang out on "connecting"...
Can you post your cab here? or can you pm me with the cab?
Thanks.
kick in the $30 and get Kinoma. Totally worth it!
Hi,
Wunder radio. Loads of stations from around the world. Small fee, around £10, perhaps just under.
Just thought I'd make a quick post as I haven't seen much dicussion on Subsonic. I have Subsonic installed on my server with about 100+ Gigs of music.
I installed Subsonic for android on my 4G today and connected it to my server. Setup was easy. Works great. 100Gigs of music in my pocket anywhere I get a cell connection! Connect to the aux in the car for 34 days of commercial free music.
What's not to like!!
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. Subsonic is simply amazing.
Install software on your desktop PC to set up web access to your music. You get a very nice web interface. And an Android app.
www.subsonic.org
I'm also using Subsonic and really enjoy it. I had a little trouble initially with the server side setup, but once I figured it out and got a connection to my EVO, it's worked great for the most part. I do have an occasional pause in the playback, but I think that's more related to signal strength than anything else, because it always starts back up where it paused.
We also had Subsonic set up to stream movies a while back. A soon as I get some time I'm gonna try and see if I can use it to stream video to the EVO.
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Just thought I'd make a quick post as I haven't seen much dicussion on Subsonic. I have Subsonic installed on my server with about 100+ Gigs of music.
I installed Subsonic for android on my 4G today and connected it to my server. Setup was easy. Works great. 100Gigs of music in my pocket anywhere I get a cell connection! Connect to the aux in the car for 34 days of commercial free music.
What's not to like!!
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Hey, thanks for this. I never heard of this... works perfectly!!! Much appreciated!
First time hearing of this. I am downloading now.
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I downloaded it..but i don't get how to set it up? I have the desktop client downloaded..
sent from your stolen evo
Thank you this is what i have been looking for ever since I got my EVO.
I was a frustrated HP Media Smart Home Server user who finally gave up on the HP crapware, and went the DIY WHS route. That's what led me to Subsonic as a substitute for the HP software.
A way better choice. This program actually works without tying up the server doing indexes and hogging CPU cycles like the HP Twonky Media software did.
Access to your entire music library, and it doesn't even store anything on the SD card!
My next project will be to get it working with MP4's so I cantake movies with us on the road.
I'm setting up a server just to use this. How is the UI on the app? Is it usable as a primary music app?
It is really just designed for streaming from your server. There may be a way to use it as a music app but I haven't looked into that yet.
I just checked, you just select Offline for the server. Works fine.
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It is really just designed for streaming from your server. There may be a way to use it as a music app but I haven't looked into that yet.
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Wait, so how does that work...I'm going to check their website to see if I can reformulate this post with an actual question lol.
EDIT: OK, I think I phrased the initial question wrong. Would the experience of picking a song be similar to using any other music app as if music was stored locally? I'm not going to have anything on the phone, everything will be streamed.
EDIT2: Ignore what I said up there, here are some screen shots and video of the UI: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/screenshots.jsp
Does the app work in landscape mode?
Ok guys, you can download the Subsonic app from the Market and connect to their "test" server to see how the app works.
It works in the landscape mode. Has no widget, unfortunately. But song/file browsing, and playback is VERY functional.
If you need help installing this on the desktop side, read this: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp
You should note that while the desktop app is 100% free, the use of mobile apps is limited to 30 days at which point you have to "donate". The donation can be any amount, and you will be provided with the unlock key which you use inside the web interface of your server.
Well I installed the desktop client but can't seem to open the webpage no matter what.
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Well I installed the desktop client but can't seem to open the webpage no matter what.
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Are you trying to open it from the desktop or the phone?
Am I the only one using subsonic for video too? The music/app are great, but having streaming flash access to my video library anywhere is the best. Has to be done through the browser for now though.
Instructions here:
http://www.hackourlives.com/cross-platform-music-and-video-streaming-with-subsonic/
I'm trying to work out a way to encode/stream my live TV signal through my tuner card kinda like a slingbox. I'll post if I have some success, but I don't have much time to work on it these days.
Thanks for the link!
We had video streaming set up to our laptops, but hadn't tried setting it up on the cell phones yet.
I turn over all the details to my 15 yr old who is much faster than I am at doing all the setup. We'll get started once he gets a break at school.
We did have it set up to open whatever Media Player we wanted to use. If my son remembers what he did I'll try to get him to post the instructions.
Should be no need to play it in an external player on the evo - just switch to landscape and it will go to full screen. If you really want play it in an external player, FLV player (from the market) might work. Or if you want to download the video before playing (so you don't get any skipping while you're on 3G), you can download the file from either the app or the web interface, and play it with FLV Player.
Subsonic wants you to make a donation of 10 Euros to continue using the subdomain they have you sign up for during setup. But if you like rolling your own, sign up for a free subdomain an use a DNS updater (built in to some routers or available for any platform) to make sure the reference to your IP stays up-to-date.
For DNS updaters and more free subdomains than you can shake an iPhone at:
http://freedns.afraid.org/
this is great ! thanks for suggesting it. I was looking for something similar, tired of having to carry around the ipod just to hook up in the car. I'm going to test it out for a few days, but I think I'm going to donate for sure!
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Subsonic wants you to make a donation of 10 Euros to continue using the subdomain they have you sign up for during setup.
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Wrong. The denominations under donation menu are merely suggestions. You are welcome to donate ANY amount you CAN ($2 worked for me) to get your license. Just manually send a payment through PayPal to his email (you can get the email from the forums somewhere, do a search for donation).
When I buy my omnia 7 I thought I'd start using zune pass. It says I have access to unlimited downloads, is this true or is it limited to a certain number per month?
With a Zune Pass, you can download almost all the music in the Zune Market Place.
BUT...
You can only play them on a PC, a Zune or a WP7 device thats linked to your Zune Pass.
If I remember correctly thats x3 PC's and x3 Zune's i'm not sure how many WP7's. Although 5 are allowed in the Zune software.
Indeed, just to add to ZaForD's comments, you can only play the music for as long as you are paying for your Zune Pass. You can download as much as music as you like, but the files are DRM-protected; if you stop paying for Zune Pass, the DRM kicks in and the files are basically 'disabled'. They'll still exist as media on your computer, phone etc, but they're only enabled to be listened to while you have an active, paid-for subscription to the Zune service.
If you want to download files that don't have this kind of limitation (e.g. if you want to be able to copy music onto a microSD to use on your Android phone as well as your Windows Phone), you can buy DRM-free MP3 files from Zune instead.
I mix and match, i bought a zune pass for a year upfront and will next year while i have this phone.
I find the zune pass is great for downloading/streaming everything new i see/hear and getting new albums you might not want to have paid for after you listen to it, I've listened to 34 albums on this zune pass so far and bought 3 of them to keep forever without DRM and too be able to bring them over to the mixing table.
For the price of zune pass for a year to download "anything" it's a bargin if your like me and spend more than around £8 a month on music lol but sometimes regret some album buys after hearing one track on the radio ect....
Can anyone tell me whether you can stream music over 3G or if it's only available via wifi?
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Can anyone tell me whether you can stream music over 3G or if it's only available via wifi?
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Connects over 3G/WIFI downloads them too the phone whenever you want them. SO you can delete them.... when out and about later with a friend and remember the track and wanna show them, redownload without any problems and play ect...
Hmm, sounds ideal for me.
I didn't actually know you could buy a year's subscription, and now I've looked into it £90 is a bit steep.
Incidentally, can you burn music downloaded with a zune pass to CDs?
I've never tried this, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
As the software/device checks your user rights before it plays the songs.
So where there stored shouldn't matter.
@gcaw
Thanks for filling in the gaps
Not that i condone it in any way, but if you try know how, it's easy to sort out...
I look at it that the £90 gives you 10 free downloadable MP3's a month you can keep forever without DRM.
So thats 100 DRM free MP3's a year for £90 and all the rest of the free downloads while you have Zune Pass... as I said, I use the pass to find out what i want to download.
Then mostly buy indervidual MP3s as i'm not an albums person unless it's "epic", i don't waste space with an album of a band i like one song just to say i have the album....
If money isn't an issue for you, then this method isn't a problem i've found for unlimited music downloads and listening pleasure. I can and still buy single MP3s and always will i just love the fact for £90 a year i get "unlimited" music
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Not that i condone it in any way, but if you try know how, it's easy to sort out...
I look at it that the £90 gives you 10 free downloadable MP3's a month you can keep forever without DRM.
So thats 100 DRM free MP3's a year for £90 and all the rest of the free downloads while you have Zune Pass... as I said, I use the pass to find out what i want to download.
Then mostly buy indervidual MP3s as i'm not an albums person unless it's "epic", i don't waste space with an album of a band i like one song just to say i have the album....
If money isn't an issue for you, then this method isn't a problem i've found for unlimited music downloads and listening pleasure. I can and still buy single MP3s and always will i just love the fact for £90 a year i get "unlimited" music
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About the 10 free songs thing, how do you know how many you have left to keep or which ones you have selected to keep etc.
Just to be clear, the 10 free DRM-free MP3 downloads offering is exclusive to US Zune customers; it's not available in the UK, Australia or other Zune markets, to my knowledge at least.
Also, to answer an earlier question, you cannot burn subscription music from Zune Pass on to a CD. The monthly fee that you pay for Zune Pass is only for the right to listen to music through the Zune service; you're not buying the rights to listen to the music elsewhere on a non-Zune device, such as a Zune HD, Windows Phone or Xbox 360.
If you want to be able to burn music from Zune on to a CD or on to a non-Zune device like an Android phone or another music player, you must purchase the music as DRM-free MP3 on a per-track or per-album basis.
Zune Pass = access to Zune stream/download service only; you're not buying the music, so you can't take the files elsewhere.
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Just to be clear, the 10 free DRM-free MP3 downloads offering is exclusive to US Zune customers; it's not available in the UK, Australia or other Zune markets, to my knowledge at least.
Also, to answer an earlier question, you cannot burn subscription music from Zune Pass on to a CD. The monthly fee that you pay for Zune Pass is only for the right to listen to music through the Zune service; you're not buying the rights to listen to the music elsewhere on a non-Zune device, such as a Zune HD, Windows Phone or Xbox 360.
If you want to be able to burn music from Zune on to a CD or on to a non-Zune device like an Android phone or another music player, you must purchase the music as DRM-free MP3 on a per-track or per-album basis.
Zune Pass = access to Zune stream/download service only; you're not buying the music, so you can't take the files elsewhere.
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Nope you get 10 in the UK aswell.... as i said
They download as WMA from "Zune Pass" so everything plays them, Even VirtualDJ *thought i left that in my last post, but seems not*
As i said i don't condone nor control what you do with them. If you know how DRM works, it's not exactly taking apart a human with a spoon is it ?
But as i pay for it years on end i don't give a rats what other people do.
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Nope you get 10 in the UK aswell.... as i said
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Well, no, that's not actually the case.
If you're getting ten free in the UK, then you must be a special case. I live in London, and I bought both my Windows Phone and my Zune Pass here, and I don't get the ten free MP3s.
There is no mention of the 10 free DRM-free MP3s being made available to UK customers on the UK Zune.net website.
Look at the Zune Pass US page where, below the main black banner, you'll see three sub-headers - Anywhere You Go, Unlimited Music, and Keep 10; "Keep 10" mentions the 10 free MP3s feature, and this is repeated in the feature list below, and terms related to this feature are given in the small print at the bottom. On the Zune Pass UK page, the "Keep 10" sub-header is missing, as is any mention of it in the feature list or in the small print.
Additionally, Microsoft states on this page that "the offer in the U.S. will remain at $14.99 per month for unlimited downloads and streaming access, with the ability to keep 10 MP3s per month", but does not make the same assurance for UK customers.
Under footnote 8 on the same page, it explicitly states that the "keep 10 MP3s per month feature available to U.S. Zune Pass subscribers only, on their PC or Windows Phone 7".
I'm not disputing that you're somehow getting the 10 free MP3s in the UK with a UK-purchased account, but that's clearly not the norm, which is why I'm trying to make that fact clear to other users, who can't reasonably expect to get something as part of the package that most other users aren't getting, and which Microsoft isn't promising.
mwako was right about being able to play Zune Pass music on other devices - but only devices that support Windows Media DRM. Those devices need to be able to sync to Zune or Windows Media software to update their DRM subscriptions (usually every two weeks or every month). If the DRM subscription is not updated within that period, the DRM validation 'expires' and the media become unusable until the validation is updated.
However, the original question was about being able to burn Zune Pass subscription music to a CD, and the answer to that is no.
Well not sure how, but i get them lol. I've been signed up for a while now so can't really say why... just do... sorry, thought it was the norm as it's not just me, thats the only reason now i keep paying, as i said it's an album a month for free and i don't listen to albums, more tracks then mix with them. so Zune Pass is great for that. 320kb most tracks, for an audiophile it's bliss on this phone with it's audio decoder and a cracking set of headphones.
I can't agree more you can't burn DRM protected music to CD lol. *sigh* i'll just leave it at that for you.
With Zune Pass, do you download songs to the phone?Or can you only stream them,thereby needing to use your data allowance everytime you listen to a song?
You can choose to download the songs to your computer and then sync them with your phone; or download directly to your phone over the air; or stream them to any Zune Pass enabled device (Windows Phone, Xbox 360, computer).
If you're worried about preserving your data allowance, the best way is to download songs to your computer and then sync them to your phone.
If you download the songs, they're stored on your phone/computer until you remove them. If you stream them, they're not stored locally. If your Zune Pass expires/is not renewed, any songs that you've downloaded will remain on your device until they are deleted; i.e. they don't 'self-destruct', they just 'self-disable'.
Basicly exactly same as gcaw said....
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With Zune Pass, do you download songs to the phone?Or can you only stream them,thereby needing to use your data allowance everytime you listen to a song?
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From Site - go get the trial pass...
https://live.zune.net/en-GB/account/buySubscription
***Your Zune 14-day Trial Pass gives you unlimited access to millions of songs at Zune Marketplace. Stream on Xbox 360 and stream/download on your PC, Windows Phone 7, and Zune player as many songs as you like and listen to them for the duration of your trial. You won’t be charged: your trial pass expires after the trial period. It does not automatically convert to a Zune Pass subscription. To continue enjoying Zune Pass after the trial, you'll need a full Zune Pass. Some songs and other content in the marketplace are not available via Zune Pass. Available content may vary over time.***
And yes... download uses your dataplan if your on 3G and not wifi, if you at home or ANYWHERE with public wifi. just turn off data connection and use WIFI.
t-mobile 3GB allowance is nice. it's like 764 songs "IF" you could/wanted that many in a month....
I can't seem to find out how to download songs on my phone. I can see how to buy them, but I don't see an option to get the DRM-protected version for free.
I can see the option on my computer however, just not on my phone; am I missing something?
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I can't seem to find out how to download songs on my phone. I can see how to buy them, but I don't see an option to get the DRM-protected version for free.
I can see the option on my computer however, just not on my phone; am I missing something?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCDJLSP_Fw
from 0:48 secs is the bit i think your referring too ?
*ignore the end about conspiracy theories lol* i'm sure this is one of the things they will listen too *hope*