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Hey guys, I checked my GPRS mobile usage on my o2 online bill and found out that my 5MB has been all used up and that i have run up a bill of an extra £3.47. Am i the only one that has started being charged for it or is the end of the "deal"?
Euan
i've just checked my unbilled usage on the o2 website and havent been charged for gprs yet
i got unlimited data for free from work (vodafone) today, so damn nice to stream SR Street etc etc..
how long have ya guys had free on o2?
nope no charges for me neither
"Free" GPRS was an introductory offer on Business Data Sense tariffs only (i.e. joint Voice/Data)- NOT Data5. It finished on Jan 31:-
Business Data Sense
O2 Business Data Sense is the standard data tariff available with O2 business voice tariffs for 2+ connections. Business Data Sense allows you to use our Mobile Web and Mobile Web VPN services and our DataLink solutions. O2 Active WAP browsing is free with Business Data Sense. Business Data Sense is currently free of charge until 31st January 2006. Use of Business Data Sense during the promotional period is subject to a fair use policy of 36 MB of data per month. If a customer exceeds 36 MB in a given month, we may ask the customer to reduce their usage of the service. If usage continues to exceed 36 MB per month, O2 may be required to move the user to another O2 data tariff. When charging commences on 1st February 2006, the first ½ Megabyte (MB) of Mobile Web / Data Bearer access is free each month, then after that access is priced at £1.80 per Mb.
To be fair it is actually swings and roundabouts and it is totally dependant upon your billing platform.
Which, as no one has stated which tariff they are actually on, makes this thread rather pointless :lol:
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Which, as no one has stated which tariff they are actually on, makes this thread rather pointless :lol:
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Bingo, you win this thread
I haven't been charged for use this month either and I am on bog standard O2 200.
Depending on whether you took it online or direct from a store then you'll get one of two seperate allowances.
1Mb for online customers.
100kb for store direct customers.
Oddly enough, I've been really abusing (by this I mean a LOT of usage) the GPRS for nearly 2 years now and I haven't been charged once. Not sure if tarrif makes any difference as I switched tarrifs a few times...
//Xi
Same as me, but I'm on a staff tariff, so I put it down to that.
Meh.
I'm thinking of getting either the T-Mobile MDA Pro or O2 Exec in the UK. Or if I was to get an unlocked one could I use my existing sim card (not O2 or T-Mobile) which is just a voice pay as you go?
Which one have people found to be the best?- probably more interms of contract rather than function as they should be the same??
Anything I should be looking out for?
Can I assume that if you don't take the "Data download" extra then you can't use GPRS???
Also is the O2 4mB "Browse and download" a better deal than the T-Mobile "Web & Walk"? While the web&walk is unlimited it's restricted to web browsing only (no internet radio steaming!). In your usage have you found 4Mb per month be enough or shouldn't I worry.
My main use would be for occasional remote access and sending emails on the move.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks,
Bill
Hi Billuk
I'd be very suprised if 4mb was enough for internet radio streaming anyway. There is a version of Web n Walk that is designed for higher users. It's about a tenner extra (Web n Walk Pro).
Thanks for the reply.
The W&W Pro version may be overkill but as it's only a 12 month contract I can always switch or move onto a different contact if my usage doesn't match my contract.
Anyone else any other thoughts?
Are you all enjoying your Universals?
Is the T-Mobile offering the best one in the UK?
Thanks
Bill
Re: I'm planning to buy universal in UK-contract advice want
I was charged hugely (recently refunded) for one days internet streaming on O2, 32Mb it was, and was charged close to a hundred quid. I reserve it for when I'm at home on Wifi now.
Nobody touches T-Mobile for data. I'm sure the odd bit of streaming won't arouse their suspicions.
Get the T-Mobile Relax plan (12 month) with WebnWalk. Flext is 18month, you'll probably want to keep on the cutting edge of hardware in 12 months.
T-Mobile Web n Walk 3G, GPRS bundle
I am with T-mobile currently have a 3G/GPRS web bundle that lets you surf unlimited for £6.80 per month, not bad for 384k speeds when in 3G coverage. When you dont have 3G, it slips back to gprs at no extra cost.
I am under a 12-month contract with O2, which offers 200MB data flow per month at 25.99 exc. (29.7 inc.). This offer is a pure data offer and I use Nokia 6680 from 3 for voice & text. I enjoy this offer very much for its nearly unlimited access to online content if you don't download software, music and video.
i386 said:
I am under a 12-month contract with O2, which offers 200MB data flow per month at 25.99 exc. (29.7 inc.). This offer is a pure data offer and I use Nokia 6680 from 3 for voice & text. I enjoy this offer very much for its nearly unlimited access to online content if you don't download software, music and video.
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As a consumer, that deal isn't open to me, it's business only.
Sad, dark ages stuff.
since one of your thoguhts was to buy an unlocked device -
for me by far the cheapest way to own the exec was to go thorugh the 02 website I paid £150 and now £20 per month over 12 months on contract
Mostly I use wifi for all my data - there are so many unsecured / free ones, andof course at home and work I'm coverd.
Occaisionaly I use 3G and haven't had any problems/excessive bills - bound to be cheaper than pay as you go and probably if you use it infrequently cheaper than a regalur data package.
Hi
I would go for the xda exec as you can get this from o2 direct (0nline) for £149.99 on a £19 month tariff which = £377.99 over the minimum term of your contract and my xda is unlocked (as has every other o2 phone I have had been) which means you could get an Orange PAYg sim and get unlimited GPRS access for £1 per day and use this above the 1mb you get with your o2 contract
Full details can be found on Orange's web site here: http://www.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_costs.html
Basically as long as you have some credit on your PAYG sim, all you need to do is dial 450 and select 'buy an extra' Select 'orangeworld extra' and the
£1 wil be deducted from your existing credit on your phone.
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you could get an Orange PAYg sim and get unlimited GPRS access for £1 per day and use this above the 1mb you get with your o2 contract
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"Access Orange World and send multimedia messages for less."
Is Orange World unrestricted Internet Access? If so, Wow.
Why the hell are O2 so expensive for their data, if I can get unlimited data from ORange for £30/mth.
Hi
Yeah Orange is - you pay your £1 and you have ulimited access for that day (starts and ends at midnight)
Loads of people have been using it but not many people know about it hence my post here and on my forum
AndyChecker said:
Hi
Yeah Orange is - you pay your £1 and you have ulimited access for that day (starts and ends at midnight)
Loads of people have been using it but not many people know about it hence my post here and on my forum
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UK orange world is full internet and UK Tmob WnW is just http? Wow, talk about reverse worlds.
In the Netherlands, Tmobile WnW at 10 euros a month (6-7 quid) is unrestricted traffic, unrestricted internet, proxyfree -- just that on the UMTS/HSDPA network your connection speed is (supposed to be? may not be atm) limited to 64 kbit/s maximum rather than full UMTS.
Whereas Orange World is http-only through a proxy, costs 6 euros a month unlimited traffic, with regular internet traffic being charged by the meg.
Ive been searching a few of the UK network websites for internet or data price plans such as o2, vodafone and T-mobile but i'm not to sure which is the best, Web n Walk certainly looks a good option.
I would have purchased the phone on contract but being a student it wouldn't be a wise option, does anybody know any decent price plans?
Aswell as how much would this cost.
thanks.
FREE XDA Exec on 18mth £30 contract:
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-phones/o2/contract-mobile-phones/xda-exec.php/PNEWO2EXEC0005
ADD 'Unlimited' (Reasonable) O2 Data for £10 per month
Internet Plan
T-Mobile has a web 'n walk tariff - unlimited download for £7.50 per month, subject to fair use. You get 3G where coverage exists, and drops to GPRS elsewhere...
Regards,
Whats this £10 a month option for resonable data from O2???
^^ This ^^
Carphone Warehouse only!
Tomtooter said:
FREE XDA Exec on 18mth £30 contract:
http://www.mobileshop.com/mobile-phones/o2/contract-mobile-phones/xda-exec.php/PNEWO2EXEC0005
ADD 'Unlimited' (Reasonable) O2 Data for £10 per month
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Oops!
The Carphone Warehouse sold me a O2 XDA Exec for £149.95 on a £30 400 minutes per month +£10 'Unlimited Data' contract....my contract is Bberry BIS Unlimited & O2 Customer Services have confirmed that CPW IS allowed to offer 'special terms'!
Shame is: I don't think I'm going to keep it - I simply can't get used to using he 640 X 480 screen for the Internet, even with Opera
I've just rang O2 customer services, and they say I can add the £10/month unlimited reasonable data bolt-on to my voice tariff!
It's called: BlackBerry Unlimited Monthly Roaming
I got my Exec on Pay Monthly £35/Month voice tariff for £149.99 so when I can downgrade my voice tariff on 29 January (6 months from contract start), I'll be adding this!
I don't see why they won't offer it to you guys!
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I've just rang O2 customer services, and they say I can add the £10/month unlimited reasonable data bolt-on to my voice tariff!
It's called: BlackBerry Unlimited Monthly Roaming
I got my Exec on Pay Monthly £35/Month voice tariff for £149.99 so when I can downgrade my voice tariff on 29 January (6 months from contract start), I'll be adding this!
I don't see why they won't offer it to you guys!
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Odd that they are offering you this as I enquired on Thursday and all O2 had were tarrifs way less competitive than the t-mobile ones. I'd have preferred 02 just for the black unit rather than the ugly silver!
Same here, plus O2 coverage is slightly better.
I had to ask specifically for that one, though; the 'offered' ones, although better than last time I checked, are still a bit pricey and not competitive with Web'n'Walk.
If you think T-Mobile's Universal is ugly, you should see the Orange one! Rock-grey with RED keyboard backlight! *shudders* Is T-Mobile's backlight pink?
T-mobile backlight is red. Aren't they all?
I use my Orange Uni (with beautiful red keyboard) with a 3G PAYG SIM in, which for £1 a day gives me unlimited use of 3G internet until midnight.
Phone 450 then follow the menus (3,1,1,1,1,1) and you will get it from when you phoned and listened for the confirmation until 00:00 that night.
Seems like a brilliant idea to me.
Mobiles4Everyone have the T-Mobile MDA Pro on a Flext 30 Web 'n Walk for £32.50 p/m with the phone costing £69.99 or
£27.50 p/m on Flext 25 Web 'n Walk witht he phone at £99.99.
http://sales.mobiles4everyone.com/display.asp?hs=mda4
The O2 Exec is £30 p/m on O2 400 tariff with the phone at £89.99 or
£35 p/m on O2 600 with the phone at £49.99.
http://sales.mobiles4everyone.com/display.asp?hs=xdaexec
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T-mobile backlight is red. Aren't they all?
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O2's is looooovely blue
Hi guys,
I bought my Exec in February 2006. I have the 12month contract(£19) and i also bought the 4 meg GPRS bundle(£4)
O2 however have never charged me for using any data. Whenever I go onto the online bill the amount of data usage is always 0.
£24 a month unlimited data usage + some free minutes and txts (although i'm not a crazy data sucker so probably dont use any more than 15-20 megs)
Don't suppose anyone has any ideas on why it's free? or for how long ? don't want to query it just incase
stualpha said:
Hi guys,
I bought my Exec in February 2006. I have the 12month contract(£19) and i also bought the 4 meg GPRS bundle(£4)
O2 however have never charged me for using any data. Whenever I go onto the online bill the amount of data usage is always 0.
£24 a month unlimited data usage + some free minutes and txts (although i'm not a crazy data sucker so probably dont use any more than 15-20 megs)
Don't suppose anyone has any ideas on why it's free? or for how long ? don't want to query it just incase
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I am looking for a good data plan in Canada. I really like to use Skype to make calls because its cheaper than GSM price plan. On skype you can have $15 for full year unlimited outgoing calls. I think it is $100 for 1 year for incoming calls. But i dont think i will have to worry too much about incoming calls. Anyone know any good package that will support skype calling?
it transfers a LOT of data compared to other GPRS applications. even if you get an "unlimited" deal, you'll probably exceed the fair use limit.
Tomtooter said:
Oops!
The Carphone Warehouse sold me a O2 XDA Exec for £149.95 on a £30 400 minutes per month +£10 'Unlimited Data' contract....my contract is Bberry BIS Unlimited & O2 Customer Services have confirmed that CPW IS allowed to offer 'special terms'!
Shame is: I don't think I'm going to keep it - I simply can't get used to using he 640 X 480 screen for the Internet, even with Opera
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Re web browsing with a small screen - do you guys know about the google portal for mobiles? It's a web proxy that reformats websites for small screens. The data transferred is much smaller than going direct.
save this site into your favourites and then when you want to brows just tyoe the url into the google window in the middle of this page:
http://www.google.com/gwt/n?q=
This proxy has transformed my browsing on the XDA.
evilv said:
Re web browsing with a small screen - do you guys know about the google portal for mobiles? It's a web proxy that reformats websites for small screens. The data transferred is much smaller than going direct.
save this site into your favourites and then when you want to brows just tyoe the url into the google window in the middle of this page:
http://www.google.com/gwt/n
This proxy has transformed my browsing on the XDA.
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Yeah i do that too. VGA display mode. Really awesome feature by google. There goes 1 more stock of google in my bank. Also I like oZVGA with that display mode from google ^^
O2 vs O2 Online
I've had my XDA Exec for 15 months, bought through O2 Online (i.e. the website) and I've been frustrated with envy since the Web'n'Walk tariff on T-mobile came out. Every month I ring O2 to ask if they can compete, and every month they tell me that the only unlimited tariff is the £70 all-you-can-eat tariff, designed for businesses. When I read the post about the Blackberry Unlimited bolt-on above, I was over the moon! I immediately called O2 Online customer services, only to be told that they don't support Blackberry and it's only tariffs bought via the O2 shops that offer that tariff - is that utterly infuriating or what? O2 simply don't want my money...
I'm going to wait out the remaining three months and then go to T-Mobile for one of those tastly little Varios with a slide out keyboard thingy.
Currently T-Mo are offering 25% off for life - which means you can get flext + web n walk for £20.62 a month. That's unlimited data and £34 worth of calls/texts/video calls, hard to beat.
Also if you aren't concerned about video calling give the Crossbow ROM a shot - Internet Explorer has gained a hi-res mode and looks amazing. Its as close to desktop browsing as Opera and about four hundred times faster...
There has been an ongoing sporadic discussion regarding the best data plan in the UK, with the suggestions that T-Mobile (who have HSDPA but only 84% coverage) and Orange (who are expected to announce £8pcm unlimited internet) are the cheapest.
I have just spoken to O2 as my contract with them is coming to an end. Their retentions department says that they have realised that they are no longer competitive on data and will be making an announcement in the next month or so (it was suppiosed to be by the end of this month), with a view to offering more competitive data allowances - presumably to compete with T-Mobile.
they already do £10/month unlimited data but they don't shout about it.
"blackberry unlimited monthly roaming"
from 3g.co.uk/3gforum they say its £10 for 20mb on o2. Rip off.
I've just moved to Three, they're brill!! £5 a month for unlimited (1 gig) or
£10 (sign up for 12 months and u get a free slingbox!!) for slingbox and orb on the move as well as your gig data.
I got a crap phone (LG u300) so i got half price line rental for 18 months and put the sim in my xda exec.
I'm paying: £27.50 a month for 18 months which gets me:
£17.50 (hplr) 300 mins, 1000 texts a month
£10 x-series gold which gives me:
80 hours orb & slingbox use (more than 2.5 hours a day!)
5000 skype minutes (more than 2.6 hours a day!)
1gb data
Unbeatable tbh!! i'm just setting up my 3g settings (if i can find them) and I've just setup my slingbox, sky tv on the move!! plus my music/videos on my pc through orb!! how awesome!!
3 ftw!
You guys think thats a rip off, be glad your not in canada? $1 CDN = 0.454 GBP.
Canada Data Plans
10 GBP = $22... for $25 we get 3MB
O2 Unlimited Blackberry roaming
Be careful
O2's blackberry unlimited roaming doesnt include data , just email - the only one the unlimited is on is a RIM Blackberry device, blackberry connect devices which the xda exec is does not include it.
I took out a contract with CPW O2 (Car phone warehouse managed the aaccount but the same conditions apply) and was sold the unlimited blackberry bundle, I noticed that my online credit allowance was going down when I queried this I was advised that the charge was for data and I had run up £30 (the unlimited £10 pm brings down the mb charge to £1 per meg)
I fought this and was advised that I was mis sold the item , as I love my xda and also have paid for the insurance policy via the CPW which allows a cancellation of contract as 6 months on a 18 month policy I have stook with it.
I could have got a blackberry 8800 but I use tomtom and the blackberry doesnt support this and I dont like the blackberry maps.
Be careful when asking for the unlimited roaming as it is not what it seems - I have found out to my cost , I use wifi at home on the phone so im not bothered about the internet whilst out ....
The plus's outweigh the negatives !!
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I've just moved to Three, they're brill!! £5 a month for unlimited (1 gig)
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So if there is a 1GB cap, where does the unlimited part come in?
they advertise it as unlimited, as soon as you hit 1gig they don't just stop the service, you get a SMS alert to warn you of approaching the limit, then if you continue to "abuse" the service they restrict it.
So it's not a cap per se but more of a fair usage policy. But in all fairness the other mobile carriers do the same. 1 gig on a phone is a lot of data though! that doesn't count towards the slingbox or orb usage either!
When I got "unlimited data" bundle with fair usage policy of 250MB, i thought it should be more than enough for a month. However, just checked my online orange account and i have already used all 250 mb with 10 days before the start of new month/bundle.
Used phone for browsing and youtube + emails. However, didn't anticipate that it will take 250mb. Now it seems a very small allowance. Any idea if I can still increase my package to 500MB ? (contract already 20 days old now - it was month 15 upgrade). or may be Orange will increase all unlimited bundles in near future ?
Secondly, is there a GPRS monitor for HD? I mean is there a way to monitor how much MBs of data has been used so far or being used by an application like youtube or during browsing? So that one can monitor his use.
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SPB have a GPRS monitor
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/?en
EDIT : I don't know if it works with the HD though - I assume it does.
omg that is really much.
i just upgraded my german vodafone tariff to 200 mb for the next month.
i hope that will be enough.
i think youtube takes a lot of traffic. especially when you activate high quality.
The reason I wanted to stay with T-Mobile UK.... it's 1GB fair usage policy.
The phone cost me more to get it on T-Mobile (Thru Expansys) but the 1GB was more valuable to me.
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SPB have a GPRS monitor
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/?en
EDIT : I don't know if it works with the HD though - I assume it does.
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SPB GRPS Monitor is now called SPB Wireless Monitor and works perfectly on the HD.
I used up 45mb in just a week with just basic browsing and emails, didnt even download anything yet.
I would cut down on YouTube, that's where the big usage goes. General browsing and stuff is generally next to nothing.
I just upgraded to this bundle. I was never sold it as 'unlimited' though? The lady explained it was a 250 meg package for £7.50, the next package down was 4 meg for £4!?!? bit of a difference!
After the 250 meg, what happens? You carry on with standard usage, £1.50 cap a day?
I use Opera mini on my M700/P3600 and so far in the last 3 weeks I've only used about 70Mb. I've probably browsed every day, sometimes for up to 4 or 5 hours constantly but mainly on forums and phone review sites. Does Opera Mini compress the pages more than the version that ships with the WM 6.1 phones?
1 youtube 2-3min video is about +/-10mb, that's a lot! i stopped watching youtube on my HD
I used 50MB in a couple of days after watching a couple of things on YouTube. Since then though I've only used around 10MB in email in occasional browsing.
Spb wireless monitor is brilliant. shows the breakdown of all data used through different channels. Ideal to monitor how much data ie being used. It showed em how much YOUTUBE cost. I guess that was the reason I managed to finish 250MB in 20 days.
Have to cut down on youtube now , though it is very addictive and I wish , Orange had a better data package with atleast 1gb.
luckey me i have 5gb free and after that they just cap the speed it still dosent cost anny extra
but i have used 3gb now since the 1st dec
i have questioned orange re exceeding fair usage and was informed on many occasions that i wont be charged but warned if im constantly exceeding my limit.
with o2 free unlimited web bolt on..... free unlimited land line bolt on...
happy days...
orange do an unlimited evening and weekend package for £5 a month with 1gb fair usage. also the £1.50 daily cap.
the unlimited 250 usage package they are offering at the moment is a joke. they sell the hd with this package but it expires after 3months anyway and then automatically puts you on the unlimited evening and weekends package.
i have my emails updating every two hours and am signed into msn most days, outside of the evening and weekend package with the daily cap my gprs charges have only been about £12 in a month.
From the day I got the Touch HD (Wednesday) to the Monday just gone, (so about 4 days), I have used 0.075MB.
Anyway, I asked and the guy said the 250MB is a guide. I suggested that if I used 260MB they wouldn't charge me, but a big excess in data usage would result in a flag of your account.
However, "excessive" hasn't been quantified yet.
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orange do an unlimited evening and weekend package for £5 a month with 1gb fair usage. also the £1.50 daily cap.
the unlimited 250 usage package they are offering at the moment is a joke. they sell the hd with this package but it expires after 3months anyway and then automatically puts you on the unlimited evening and weekends package.
i have my emails updating every two hours and am signed into msn most days, outside of the evening and weekend package with the daily cap my gprs charges have only been about £12 in a month.
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WHAT ???? Y would it expire after 3 months? 250MB/unlimited data bundle is part of the contract on Panther 45. (choice b/w Unlimited Landline, Unlimited Txts or 250MB Data). It is supposed to be for the whole length of the contract i.e., 18 months.
Are they using 250MB for guide only? But I have checked my online account on Orange and I am already been charged for like £1.6 + approx. for data use outside my package. I guess they are using 250MB limit strictly. However, to compete with other networks, they should really increase it.
orange are lame and stingy when it comes to data, i mean they got/had exclusive rights to the Touch HD: a multimedia communication device, designed to keep you connected, informed and updated; all of which require a data connection.
Yet their measly fair usage policy limits the potential of the device itself and disables you from using it for its true designed purpose.
My brother uses, youtube, internet (and many things that require a data connection) without even thinking about data usage and fair crappy usage policies on his iphone, o2 provide users of the iphone with an all you can eat buffet (another reason why iphone is doing well)
Orange is like those cheap short-haul airlines, everything extra costs you extra extra
Excuse me drifting off-topic ever so slightly, but can anyone tell me:
How fussy are Orange about the use of their 1GB off-peak service?
The small print seems to prohibit instant messaging, any kind of non-orange streaming etc.
Do they really make a fuss or block users for small amounts of such usage?
Do they block any ports?
- Steve
marcopolo007uk said:
The reason I wanted to stay with T-Mobile UK.... it's 1GB fair usage policy.
The phone cost me more to get it on T-Mobile (Thru Expansys) but the 1GB was more valuable to me.
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Ditto.
Loving the HD on T-Mobile.