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Hi! I use an XDA with Orange SIM in the UK which used to roam on GPRS well, using Movistar, when I am in Spain. Since the new UK upgrade was added a couple of weeks ago in will no longer log on to GPRS in Spain but works fine in the UK. Anyone else had this problem, any ideas? Thanks.
I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
imordey said:
I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
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Did you check the roaming rates for GPRS? I would not want to be around you in the couple of weeks after you receive your next phone bill.
I used my XDA in Gran Canaria with GPRS on Movistar last week. It worked like a dream with an 02 card in it. Put an Orange sim in and it wouldn't work at all!
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Exactly the same with me when trying to use with Orange . No I have not received horrific bills from O2 either and I used it for days in Spain over the last threee months on GPRS - sounds a bit like a scare story to me!!
A state license to sell a MB for GBP 21.15 (30 Euro)
According to this, O2-UK's GPRS roaming rates are either 7.05 or 21.15 Pounds per MB (!), depending on the provider. And according to the list, Telefonica/MOVISTAR is in the 21.15 UK Pounds per MB category.
Either you'll be lucky because the billing is still a mess (wouldn't surprise me), or you have been screwed. I still remember the time I brought a tri-band phone to the US, and came home to find the roaming rates were USD 6 per minute for calls within the US, and something like USD 10 per minute for international.
Rule 1 for GPRS roaming: do not use it until the prices come down. Linking up through a regular GSM data-call can be an order of magnitude cheaper, especially if your ISP has a dialin number in the country you're in.
Is it me or does anyone agree that GPRS costs are way too high?
Lets face it, using a dial-up modem on a land line is a damn site cheaper, and in these days of broadband, the charges should be 10megs for 50p, not £5-£10!
And that goes for normal use, not just roaming!
Does anybody know what network(s) the TyTn will be on (or already is on) in the UK?
I recently canceled my phone/internet contract with Orange thinking that the TyTn would be with a network by now so that I could start a new contract with it, but its been 2 weeks without a mobile or internet and I still cant find it on any network and I'm not going to pay £450 for it.
I'm worried that it never will be over here.
I preferebly dont want it on Orange as my previous broadband deal with them never had a signal, which is why I canceled halfway through.
Thanks,
Sebastian
GOOD NEWS
It's out on T-Mobile NOW!
Free on flext 50, 90quid on flext 35
Oh thankgod for that! Thanks. But do T-Mobile do internet as well (like Orange, Vodafone and O2 do)?
Sebastian
surprised you haven't heard of web n walk. You pay 7.50 flat rate per month for unlimited internet usage through your phone. You can also use your phone as a modem, though technically speaking you're supposed to upgrade to the 12.50 web n walk plus add on for this. T-mobile is amongst (if not THE best) for it's mobile broadband (hsdpa) coverage in the uk and will very soon be upgrading to support speeds of up to 7.2 mb per second. Orange and o2 are **** for data. This is a fact. Voda and 3 are ok but seem a little more strict with their fair usage policy, and they also don't have the kaiser
Sounds like a good deal.
But I'm looking for a phone contract that also includes broadband. For the last 10 months I have payed £35 for Racoon 35 and free 2Meg internet, and I'm looking for something similar with the Kaiser.
Do you know if T-Mobile are planning to do a broadband service like the other 3? I dont get 3G signal in my area so the modem wouldn't be any use.
sebastian
Hi there
My t-mobile contract ends within few weeks and I really want the HD2! My early upgrade offers were reallly bad, so I wait what they offer when the contract actually ends.. BUT - if I switch to other network... please let me know:
***Is there any difference in unlimited internet between T-Mobile (its fast on my Web&Walk!), Virgin, Vodafone?
***Customer service... Im really been happy with T-Mob, I had bad exp with Virgin but that was years ago... what you think?
***Any other plusses having HD2 with certain network?
Thanks guys and girls!
It depends on where you live and on the signal of where you are, there isn't a BEST NETWORK for a phone.
Yes- it's no good getting a cheap deal but finding yourself with no signal!
Mobile Internet: They all still advertise 'unlimited' but they all impose a fair usage policy.
Virgin, T-Mobile and Three have 1GB FUP; O2 say theirs is genuinely unlimited but they reserve the right to throttle the accounts of those they consider abusing the service; Vodafone and Orange both have a limit of 500MB.
but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
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but vodafone don't charge you when you go over 500mb unlike orange
I would say go with which ever network doesn't have the iphone clogging up the network but they all seem to have them now
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or you can actually use because they have the signal they advertise..
I can't wait to leave vodafone now, because I've found their coverage to be so bad, despite shown as getting 3g and told it was a temporary fault I find coverage at home to be poor to non existent, and 3g spots to be much smaller than stated often losing coverage outside any halfway decent sized town..
VF Customer service (business) are very good in my experience, until a complaint gets passed onto the network team when they start to come up with every excuse known to mankind.
Seriously tempted to just use my spare "3" payg sim when the contract runs out as I get full coverage and it's cheaper, and I get coverage 99% of the places I travel.
O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
I'm going to give mobilesphonesdirect a ring, to see what they can do the HD2 for as an upgrade on Tmobile. Tmobile want £340 for me to upgrade, or I can cancel and take out a new contract with m.p.d and pay £93 for the phone for £25 a month. That's £13 more for the phone than Virgin, but we're still not sure if Virgin throttle the data speeds more than Tmobile.
Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
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Final note - I'm more interested in the Internet on the phone, then texting with actual phone calls far behind. I talk to my misses enough in the house...
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I'm with Vodafone on their £20/month sim-only deal and worryingly I've found signal to be better where I live (which is advertised as variable outdoor coverage on their 3G map) than where I work (which is advertised as strong indoor 3G), so don't rely on their 3G coverage map service as the gospel truth.
I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb broadband link, not too shabby.
Order a load of free pay and go sim cards from the different networks and try them out in the areas you frequent all the time.
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I can achieve decent download rates via 3G, typically 150-200kbps which I guess equates to a 5mb+ broadband link, not too shabby.
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??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
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??? 5Mb (megabit) = roughly 5000Kb so your 150-200Kb is way, way under that!
Your speeds are consistent with a fair 3G signal. HSDPA should give about 1200Kbps (= 1.2Mb or thereabouts) in real life though that will depend on proximity to the cell site, cell congestion etc.
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Fair enough, I'm just relating to real-world conditions where 5mb broadband doesn't equal anywhere near 5000kbps My 18mb broadband connection only achieves 1mb/s download speeds for example
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
I used to be with Virgin and the coverage was great, now with Vodafone and was always told about their superior coverage compared to other networks.
I have to say I'm sadly dissapointed, I often find it drops out completely. Even in the city centre where you'd assume coverage would be good, I often get "cold" spots with no signal, yet 25m down the road I have full HSDPA signal..... weird.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Virgin piggyback off T-mobile?
So does this mean that if t-mob throttle the usage, the throttle is also applicable to Virgin Mob customers?
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That's what it seems, although we are trying to see if Tmobile restrict and throttle the Virgin side of things even more...
See this thread here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615643
O2's data limit is actually 1GB per month, they just don't like to tell people.
If you negotiate a bit with T-Mobile you may be able to get onto their 3GB/month tariff at not much (if any) extra cost. (When I was buying I had a choice between 900 minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB/month or 1000 minutes, 500 texts and 3GB/month at the same price).
T-Mobile handset deals generally work out cheaper than other networks, but there are hidden extras: you have to pay for Voicemail calls (they don't come out of your minutes) and you don't get any free MMS messages at all (while O2, say, counts an MMS message as four SMS messages from your allowance).
One thing that irritates me about T-Mobile is that they don't support EDGE, which means if there's no 3G signal you drop straight to basic GPRS speeds. Back when I was with O2, if there was no 3G signal there was still a chance you could get EDGE, which is substantially quicker than plain GPRS.
I'd advise any buyer to be wary of mobilephonesdirect - their after-sales service is simply shocking, so if your phone develops a fault you may not get a replacement unless you're willing to take legal action.
Just to add to the previous post,
Vodafone and Virgin Mobile also charge you for MMS messages
Virgin mobile seem to cap data speed at about 384kbps.
Most of them cap the speed.
In fact I tried m.speedtest.com in a vodafone store and the phone refused to load the site.
My vodafone account got defrauded and they charged me for calls which were obviously fraudulent - masked number to US/canada at over £1 a minute that appeared as 121 on my bill....on the 29th of the month every month since November.
So I'm not happy with their idiocy but it forced me to try T-mobile.
I've found that in most places T-mobile works better than vodafone - I seem to have a 3G signal in more places and more consistently. however, that means that my E65 only lasts barely a day....With vodafone's 3G constantly dropping most of the time I was on 2G...haha, funny that!!
I think the 2/2.5G signal of vodafone is better. The 3G T-mobile signal is better. At least where i go. T-mobile reaches deep into the basement of my law school, whereas vodafone could only reach 2feet into the area.
Vodafone pluses:
includes voicemail to mins
Much cheaper fixed rate roaming not per minute
Robust 2G network
competitive plans.
T-mobile plusses:
1GB data
Much better 3G network.
-ves:
Charge for voicemail
Expensive roaming.
Less good 2G network.
Quite expensive tariffs and phones.
Virgin pluses:
Cheapest deal with mins+phone for free without going ot reseller.
T-mobile network
-ves:
unknown newbie - reseller.
Data capped at 384.
I was on a T-Mobile Combi 30 + W'n'W for £35 a month (18 month contract, 600mins/unlimited txts) plan, when it came time to upgrade a fortnight ago they wanted £70 for the phone, which I would happily have paid. Fortunately they didn't have any in stock at the time. I say fortunately as another rep called me back about a week later and proposed I go on the Flext 35 for 18 months, which has a £180 per month allowance (plus internet) but the phone is free, since I never use anywhere near my minutes, or send millions of txts it's a good plan for me, plus free HD2!
The phone comes without any T-Mobile graffiti on it thankfully, and since HardSPL was released, the stock branded T-Mobile ROM lasted all of an hour.
Also really depends in which country you reside.
Vodafone NL never warned me for over-usage, while I had months exceeding 500MB PER SESSION.. Never heard from them.
Speed is about 1mbit/s here at home. Signal is good in most cases. On the highway I usually get 2mbit/s.
May be slightly off topic but anyone else using this phone with Virgin and having issues with connection?
Mine says 3g sometimes but then reverts to H or even G. Also having issues at work where coverage is supposed to be good but there are times I'm not getting any signal at all. Did try the sim in anoether phone and the signal was strong so wondering if its the phone.
Thanks in advance!
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O2 work out quite a bit more than the others - you pay £100 for the HD2 on a £35/month contract, with 600 minutes talk and 1000 texts (if you order over the internet - 500 texts if you do the deal in store). This comes with the Unlimited Web bolt on (which normally costs £7.50), but this is limited to 500mb. And it seems you are charged if you go over this.
I've never dealt with O2, so my apologies if the info is wrong, but this is how I'm finding it.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Hi im new here, thought i would register as i have my new leo coming 2morrow, cant wait. I ordered a hd2 from o2 today, unlimited txts, unlimited web, 600 xnet mins free phone 18 month contract for £35pm. had to ring up and say i was going to leave if they couldent match the deal they were very friendly. t-mobile and voda do the same sort of deals on dialafone n places like that.
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Welcome to the group!! Hope the phone is what you want. You will be in for a steep learning curve, but this is the best forum group to ask questions in.
Witch is the best network to put wildfire on in the UK I am on o2 and in lake district thorts please
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I would say either t-mobile or Orange as they use each others network if you lose signal and at no extra cost.
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I would say either t-mobile or Orange as they use each others network if you lose signal and at no extra cost.
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exchanging the signals. is it for calls and messages only, or is it for gprs & 3g also.
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exchanging the signals. is it for calls and messages only, or is it for gprs & 3g also.
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GPRS & 3g also as far as i can tell.....
The reason they did this is 'i suspect' because there coverage is crap.
They don't seem to like investing in signal stations, even with the T-Mobile deal my experience of coverage with Orange is not good, but they are cheaper then most.
I will be dropping the Orange plan like a stone as soon as the contract is up, and am switching to 3-Net.
This because no matter where i, or people known to me go with an Orange phone there never quite seems to be a strong or stable signal, this T-Mobile Orange interchanging, to me seems to have made little or no difference, i think they were broadly sharing the same stations anyway, to me it just looks like marketing, 'we have more coverage because we work together' rubbish, in fact the opposite seems true.
It works with everything. Can't fault it tbh. If you choose t-mobile, you just text yes to 2121 and wait for text reply and phone auto changes network when needed. I'm on T-Mobile but have phone set to use t-mobile_Orange manually as it better signal and get full 3g coverage all time at no extra cost.
I was with 3 but signal started dropping off every so often then nothing. Called up to query it and was told that 3 stopped paying orange to use their network when weak signal so managed to get out of contract .
This won't happen with t-mobile orange as the 2 firms merged in Sept 2010.
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Whereabouts in the Lake District are you? My experience is that Orange seem to be the best network in the Lakes. I'm from Preston btw so this is only experience from the many visits I have made.
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Asda Mobile (vodafone based network) is the best so far. In area's where i live is loads of black spots and i can still use my phone, its funny watching people on a train going HELLO HELLO f**k and i am still chatting away they are cheap too 8p per minute to all phones and 4p a text.
I'm with T-mobile, they give me a generous 1GB internet buffer, and ACTUAL unlimited texts. Signal's usually fine, as people have said, you can share Orange's signal. It is 2G ONLY though, so no 3G. Although you can still get EDGE or something like that for 2G data, it's really slow though.
The problem with o2 is you pay x pounds a month for 500mb or 1gb of data and if you go over it it is 3 pounds (can't find the icon on this gingerbread Keyboard - anyone want to port the HTC one to a galaxy tab?) Per MB whilst on T-Mobile you get unlimited web browsing but there is a 500 MB fair usage for streaming video (YouTube) and downloading. Files (you can wait until you are on wifi) and they stop you streaming and downloading when you reach 500mb and don't charge you from what I read on their site. Try getting a payg. Sim and seeing which network. Has best coverage
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I'm with T-mobile, they give me a generous 1GB internet buffer, and ACTUAL unlimited texts. Signal's usually fine, as people have said, you can share Orange's signal. It is 2G ONLY though, so no 3G. Although you can still get EDGE or something like that for 2G data, it's really slow though.
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I can never get edge on o2! (I'm near London) its either 3g or gprs
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Thanks all for your thorts
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is it for calls and messages only, or is it for gprs & 3g also.
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if i remember it should be for calls and texts only, i think you may be charged for data usage, mind you that was at the beginning of the year and knowing t-mobile they like to change there T&Cs with out telling people so i could be wrong
hey guys over UK.
have u got any 3G networks with unlimited data usage (download).
if so, can u add a note of cost per month.
T-mobile is deffo 3g and no charge for data when on orange network. I queried this. Was 2g only to start but now 3g and data included. Been in since Jan and never charged any extra. I'm contracted T-Mobile and use orange most of time as its better signal out in the sticks
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T-mobile is deffo 3g and no charge for data when on orange network. I queried this. Was 2g only to start but now 3g and data included. Been in since Jan and never charged any extra. I'm contracted T-Mobile and use orange most of time as its better signal out in the sticks
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I can also confirm this.
3s one plan is unlimited data for 20 a month sim only
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I`m on T mobile payg and got a"Booster" which is unlimited internet for £20 for 6 months, and as previous posters have said there is no problem anywhere I`ve been with the signal.Just switch on roaming and the phone picks up the strongest signal,although by default it goes for the T mobile one.
And as mentioned before there is a fair usage policy for the data, but I think you would have to be using youTube heavily or something similar to get a problem.In my local T mobile shop they said they send you a polite letter asking you to cut down first,but if you persist using heavily they would then limit you,but as i only do the occasional browsing and e-mails it has not bothered me
any VODAFONE UK members.
how is the network. is there 3G and what about data plans.
I'm on t mob and for me the signals always fine check out the company's websites for covrerage checkers...
I get (for £10 a month)
100 free texts - although its always unlimited cos of flexible booster!
100 min
Unlimited data
That's a win right?
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Update: for 2 years.
Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
There are different data plans on Orange, but it seems none with unlimited data, but some plans do involve 750MB (starting from Panther 30 plan) or 1GB (starting from Panther 45 plan).
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Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I would say I am an average user, and my total usage this month I estimate at 2.5GB data/2.5GB WiFi. I could give you accurate numbers, but I wipe my phone so often to try the wonderful things our devs do for us that my counters reset all the time.
My usage on WiFi is primarily downloading and updating applications after a clean wipe. I don't surf a whole lot, but was surprised when I saw how much usage can jump while surfing.
All in all 500MB per month is in my mind for "emergency" use only, as you could very easily hit that limit with what might be considered minimal usage. If I were you I would go with the 1Gb plan at a minimum if it is available.
I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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I use my phone for email, twitter and light Internet when out and about, occasionally teathering to my laptop, and I'm told by orange I've not gone over about 400mb in the last year. If you stream a lot of video or music then I'd say you'd need more than 500. Some plans also come with BT Openzone so might be worth getting that to use on hotspots.
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just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix
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just curious... how do you find the download speed on orange? iv not canx my orange contract yet but have gone to o2... but the signals sooo poor versus orange im looking to upgrade on orange and theres only 2 phones i like... the sgs2 which i have... but very poor battery and drops signal when you pick up the phone or the atrix
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Download speed seems fine. Occasionally data drops for no reason, but soon seems to come back. No better or worse than any other network from what I can see, just depends on the reception in your area. Also, I've had really good experiences with Orange phone insurance in the past. Seems cheaper than other networks and is a next day replacement phone service (even after I dropped mine in the sea!).
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Im with o2 at the moment. With unlimited internet.
I want this phone and being in the uk i have to move to orange is my undertanding. Orange do not offer unlimited internet. They give 500mb.
I know no one will be able to give me a definate answer but is this enough. Out and about i dont do to much browsing. A bit of the old youtube and maybe the occasional app download.
How do other people find this limit?
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I switched from an unlimited internet tariff on O2 (N1) to the Panther 35 (750 mb) last week. I'd been tracking my monthly usage as averaging about 400mb per month for the last 4 / 5 months in expectation of shifting tariffs &/or network this year..
500mb is enough for browsing and some social network but i would avoid streaming anything including youtube for the first month or so to see how much you use. download a app call 3G watchdog, it will monitor your data usage.