wifi-gprs - Networking

i have had a quick look and cannot see a related posy but i appologise if there is
i have just got the mda 3 on t mobile web and walk with 40 mb
i have wanadoo wireless in my home and using the wi fi in my mda3 it has connected
all ok u say
what i am not sure of is when i am wifi connected to wanadoo and then click on internet explorer on my mda it still connects me to gprs,is it supposed to do that and if so will it be charging me,my intention was that i thought if i connected to my wireless home box then i would just go through that and i would be using my wannadoo subscription
do i need to disconnect the gprs in some way
sorry if i sound think but a bit new to all this portable stuff
any help gratefully recieved
dawn

maybe you could create an extra gprs profile with the wrong settings.Then you could switch to that one while at home..just a thought

cheers
maybe i could try that
i am not going to loose anything by trying
thanks again

garethsimpsonuk said:
maybe you could create an extra gprs profile with the wrong settings.Then you could switch to that one while at home..just a thought
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That won't work in my experience.
See my solution request Jasjar PIE will not use WiFi connection - always uses GPRS! on Jan 24 :roll:
If you don't have a valid GPRS connection (say flight mode on) the connections just fail via GPRS and it never even tries Wi-Fi :!:
Opera Browser works for me but I really want Terminal Server Client to work. :evil:

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MDA Pro WLAN connected but he want go online with GPRS

hi, i have the problem, that my mda pro is connected via wlan (DHCP, correct ip and i can use some ip tools to make tracerout etc, so this is working fine.
only internet explorer and icq and agile messenger want to make connection by gprs.
why?
what i am doing wrong?
any idea?
thank you, Wolf
I also have the same issue. Havent had time to work it out yet!
My router settings have all been checked:
MAC address filtering
WEP 128 encryption
DHCP
I can join my home wireless network but like you said no surfin once connected.
Very frustrating. :evil:
i think i found the problem:
if i switch on the mobile phone radio, it works.
it seems to me that only than he can choose between gprs or wlan if radio is on...
please check it...
wolf.
Sorry but what do you mean by switiching the radio on?
Do you mean the wifi?
Surely you need the wifi on in the first instance to be able to join the network?
he means the phone (i.e not in flight mode :wink: )
I have a similar problem but that is for file exploring on a networked pc it keeps trying to dial gprs :x
I tried again lastnight and it maybe becuase I have WEP 128 enabled on my router. I dont really want to go any lower than 128 encryption because the security on that is already pretty pants.
I'll give it another go on just standard WEP just to ease my conscience!

How can I stop connecting to the Net via GPRS if no wireless

Hi folks
Been playing with my new O2 XDA II exec toy for a couple of days now and came across this forum.
I have a question;
I can connect fine with wireless, but if I either switch off wireless, or start Opera/Internet Explorer without any internet connection, the phone automatically tries to dial the GPRS connection number. This is annoying and I'd want the phone to do nothing or give an error if there is no internet connecttion available. How do I change this in the settings?
The only way to stop the OS from dialing a gprs or dial-up connection is to have none of them configured in the connection settings. Sometimes you even need to hard-reset to get rid of them as your device still 'remembers' the settings & connects the gprs while you have deleted all connections.
Regards, M
Can you untick the remember username and password box? Thats what I have done, and if it does try to connect it wond go past that.
Eeeeh,
my gprs ain't using user/password. R u referring dial-up?
Cheers, M
I just make a spoof GPRS connection called VJSpoof, with no details in it.
Select this one when you want to disable GPRS, or go back to the normal one went you want to use GPRS. I use this when reading news on NewsReader offline, because otherwise it tries to connect up to download pictures.
V
oltp said:
Eeeeh,
my gprs ain't using user/password. R u referring dial-up?
Cheers, M
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On my GPRS I have a username and password box, although nothing needs to be entered in it. I make sure the box which says Always Remember These Details is unticked.
haha vijay... I like your thinking... works a treat, just remember to manually select them, and not have it autopick tries to dial out, then error

Q: Laptop->WM5->GPRS ?

Appologies in advance for the daft question. I was wondering if its possible for me to configure my Wizard as a gateway to the internet?
From my Wizard, once I've established a GPRS connection I can browse/surf the internet, but I'd like to be able to connect with my PC and browse the intenet.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance and once again, sorry for the newb question.
Adam
I won't have a Wizard. But, let me guess
Try switching on your Wizard IR and point it to your PC. It things goes well, your PC should say some hardware detected.. and it should have a modem class hardware, which should enable you to connect to the net. Try fiddle with it. That is what's on offer from my SonyE phone.
Is it possible to make a connection through usb cable?
jep, you can use youre wizzard als a gprs modem for youre laptop.
start with going trough
[start]
[programs]
[modem link]
plug in the usb on bove sides (wizzard and pc)
youre pc will find a new deviece.
Insert youre cd from t-mobile with applications. On that cd is also a set of drivers for the wizzard modem function. (just tell windows to search the cd the rest will be done automaticly)
go to connections on youre pc.
create a new connection.
make sure it's pointing to youre new added modem (wizzard).
use for the phone number *99#
have a little patience and wola youre welcome on the world wide web.
ps if you are dutch try this post on a dutch forum which is maybe more clear
adam_j_bradley said:
Appologies in advance for the daft question. I was wondering if its possible for me to configure my Wizard as a gateway to the internet?
From my Wizard, once I've established a GPRS connection I can browse/surf the internet, but I'd like to be able to connect with my PC and browse the intenet.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance and once again, sorry for the newb question.
Adam
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Both IrDA and USB will work as described above. IrDA, on the other hand, is not the way to go if you have EDGE - IrDA's maximal 115 kbps is slower than the maximal about 175 kbps of EDGE.
If you have Bluetooth support in the notebook, you will want to read this tutorial on setting up the Wizard as a Bleutooh modem: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1
"Modem link" worked a treat - thanks!
For Vodafone Australia, I needed to send the following init string
"at+cgdcont=1,"IP","vfinternet.au"
Adam
Pity the GPRS counter doesn't work!
Any Drivers for OSX for my powerbook?
Interesting topic...
is there similarly a way to use WiFi from the Wizard on a laptop, via IR or USB?
Couldn't get this to work while recently at a hotel where the laptop couldn't see the hotspot anywhere in the room, but the wizard could see it everywhere in the room! =)
No.
What you need to do that is known in the Winblows world as "Internet Connection Sharing", or "ICS", and its not in the WinCE build. At all.
Going the OTHER way however - having your Windows laptop serve up the GPRS connection to a whole host of other machines on an ad-hoc Wifi network - that DOES work!
HI there i donot have modem drivers in my cdrom. Please if any one can post the drivers file on this page it will help a fellow pda user a lot.
Thank you very much in advance.
Here you go, enjoy. Tried it and I got 150 - 175 kbs at www.dslreports.com/mspeed @ 200k and 600k tests. Granted it was at 12:37 a.m. and not a big load on the network cause everyone is probably asleep.
Hmm, becuase of this, now I want to sell off my unlocked sierra 775 edge card because it's of no use to me now. Man I love this phone more and more!
Cheers,
Mike
Hi all,
I am able to use my MDA Vario as modem for my laptop connecting the MDA Vario via USB but when I connect I do not see the GPRS connection on my MDA Vario connecting or being used so a big G stands in the top of my screen instead of a G with two arrows below it.
I use as modem settings:
Dial number *99#
Extra initialization command +CGDCONT=1,"ip","internet","",0,0
Is GPRS used now?
If not how can I configure the MDA Vario or modem on my laptop in such a way that is use GPRS?
I think the "G" icon does not change even if it is connected.
in the modem setting replace the word " internet " with your providers GPRS setting,
in the case of t-mobile it will be " internet2.voicesream.com"
and that's it!
When I change "internet" into "internet2.voicestream.com" I am not able to connect at all and when I have this setting set to "internet" I am able to connect and use my MDA Vario as Modem.
The only thing I am very interested in is how do I know if I am using GPRS or normal modem as connection? This because I have a GPRS abo and I do not want to use my normal phone abo for modem connection.
Does anyone know if the internet setting is OK and how I can see if GPRS is used?
Thanks.
yes, that I know it will use the GPRS or EDGE conection, It is only convinient if you have an unlimited data plan.
I dind't notice that you where in the us, look up in you photo what you use to connect to your GPRS setting, and then use the same onenceon the computer in the HTC modem window.
internet2.voicestrem.com is only for the unlimited data plan in the USA with T-mobile..
http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html
this is a link with some setting
The page you have mentioned http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html mention to use internet-act for settings in modem and I am not able to connect using internet-act. I only use internet as setting in initialization string and I can connect.
I am located in the Netherlands and I assume that this is the correct configuration to use my MDA Vario as modem for my laptop and connect via GPRS. Will see on my next bill. .
kuykhoven said:
Extra initialization command +CGDCONT=1,"ip","internet","",0,0
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And what does these paraqmeters all mean? Any reference "manual" to them?
Having my Wizard GPRS/EDGE working fine through Bluetooth. Anyone else having iteruptions in the connection?
HI there
i am using O2 atom and i cannot connect through modem link. Please help.

Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad
related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John
I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem
Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Blackberry Connect Behaviour

Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
derrumbe said:
Questions for people using the blackberry connect software:
I want to sign up for cingular's blackberry service, especially since I am overseas more often than not for work.
(Some of these are questions, some are assumptions. just trying to get some info )
My question(s) are:
1) Blackberry connect acts as your internet connection, right?
2) Does anyone use it and get a UMTS connection instead of GPRS?
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
4) Does the blackberry stuff use the existing calendar /addressbook programs on the hermes, or does it use it's own? (assuming it's own)
Thanks for the help. Wondering if I can sign up for the blackberry service and basically get a flat fee rate on data when I am in Europe, etc.
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1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
3. You can use the internet connection from any program while BB Connect is running. However, Since BB Connect is a lower priority connection, applications like pIE, etc. will take a higher priority over BB Connect and force the BB Connect client to idle while it waits for the connection. This is an automatic process.
4. BB Connect will uses the built in PIM applications (Pocket Outlook, etc.)
Cingular has a few Blackberry plans including a unlimited plan.
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
derrumbe said:
thanks for the response.
So that doesn't sound as good as I was hoping.
I was hoping that Blackberry would be a conduit for the rest of my applications to use, instead of being one of many apps using one network connection.
So much for cost savings and/or surfing the net via blackberry connect.
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I am assuming I understand your connection question. BB Connect is no different then other applications that use a internet connection. BB Connect uses the internet connection to connect and pull down mail. Other apps don't use BB Connect to get a connection. If you have a BB plan, that will allow you to have a connection not only for email, but for any app (i.e. Internet Explorer)
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
derrumbe said:
hmmm... interesting point.
What you are saying is that from cing's point of view, my device would be a "blackberry" although it would actually be a hermes.
What I would have to figure out is if cingular filters out connections so that you can only connect to the blackberry server....
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That's correct. Cingular has no idea nor cares what device you are using. They actually sell devices like the Nokia E62 (BB Connect preinstalled) and Treo 650 which has the BB Connect software available for download.
brmcguire said:
1. BB Connect uses your internet connection.
2. BB Connect only connects while under a GPRS/GSM/EDGE connection. In other words, you will need to force your connection or while in a GPRS area to use GSM only. You can do this within the connection Band settings.
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Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
yeah, it only works with GSM - you have to force the band away from utms.
if you go over on howard forums and look in the cingular section, you can find info - I think that I saw that error mentioned....
mooney6023 said:
Interesting, so BB Connect or the BB network is not compatible with UMTS? What are the symptoms BB Connect displays when UMTS is active?
I played around with this yesterday on cingular USA, but could not get the Connect software to connect, instead it would say network available then fall back to "suspended by user". BIS account creation wouldn't recognize my PIN&IMEI combo.
Thought this was a show stopper, but perhaps it's not.
Thanks
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When BB Connect is fully connected to the BES/BIS it will display 4 dots. For some reason, and I don't know why is that the BB Connect client doesn't like a UMTS connection. It might have todo with how GPRS/GSM holds a connection. Here is a handy link for connection status indications.
As far as the BIS registration, you will need to create a NEW account on the Cingular BIS site. Then you will be able to register your device and BB Connect.
http://www.dopodasia.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/connection.html
derrumbe said:
3) Does your hermes act like it has a normal connection? (in other words, if I turn on Blackberry connect, can I use other progs which use that net connection - say Flexmail 2007 or IE or somesuch)
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No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
rsolomon said:
No personal experience, but folks on HoFo say BB Connect is killing the internet connection for other programs like PIE:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1044755
Richard
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Hi there, sorry to be so unspecific, but at least I wanted to share my experience
German O2 XDA/HERMES recent, used in Belgium with a Company BB service from Proximus, using BB connect 2.16 usually via UMTS, but when roaming also via GPRS; never forced it to GSM.
It is very slow! so you need to be patient; 1 min waiting until everything has re-connected is not unusual.
I remember that I had the same issue of BB Connect monopolizing the internet connection so that Skype not even started and IE was not able to connect to the internet neither.
After a cold reset and re-installation of everything it works now to expectations:
BB C is usually always on and on UMTS
When starting IE, a pop up apprears saying, connecting to ...
that's when BBC goes 'offline' Symbol :!
I can then surf the Internet
You must TERMINATE IE, not just leave it running in the background
After some time, BBC will automatically re-connect. If you try to speed up, it will complain that the connection is still blocked by another program.
I believe that BB C creates another hidden connection which is not visible in the connection folder, but if you use fit4cat, there is a tweak for 'force connection always on' and there I can see Blackberry as connection
I did not notice any handling difference between UMTS or GPRS.
HOWEVER
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
I'm using BB Connect with a Vario II on TMUK.
When BB Service is on, I am connected through the blackberry.net APN, but via UMTS. If I want to browse, check POP3 email or do anything else, I have to be connected through the TMUK Internet Access Point, which is how I access Web 'N Walk and my unlimited data allowance. This, of course, interrupts my BB connection.
I believe it should be possible to use the blackberry.net APN for web-surfing as well because on RIM devices, all data goes through the BB APN. However, if I try to manually set up a new connection with the blackberry.net APN and route data traffic through it, it doesn't work.
So, not quite sure, but it should be possible to use the blackberry bundle on whatever network as the conduit for data traffic that one of the posters here was referring to - might just need a chat with tech support at your network.
Dave
other post says BBC does not support MDS, so you cannot surf using blackberry.net (not sure what MDS is, but guess it is in a real BB)
also can confirm that I have to suspend the Blackberry GPRS/EDGE connection before IE and POP3 mail will work - both GPRS connections (Blackberry and normal GPRS) are active, but the Blasckberry one seems to have priority
using HTC P3300 and TMO BBC client 2.1.2.31
ive been using BBConnect on both the XDA Exec and the V1605 for well over a year, it will connect to the BB Server using whatever PHONE network band is available e.g. UMTS if in a good Vodafone signal area or it will step back to GPRS if it doesnt, there are issues when roaming on other networks which will not pass through the BB connection so for example when in Germany on a supposed Roaming Partners network BB doesnt connect. I just have to force the Phone to try to connect to VF which then obviously works albeit a low speed connection. as for using PIE whenever I try to connect it disconnects the BB Connection and connects again using the VF connection, I agree this is a bit @rse as you would have thought the applicaitons could see that there is a usable connection there and should therefore utilise it..
If anyone knows of a registry setting that can be modified to fix the connection hopping I would be interested.
Problem with BB C on Tytn
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
Timmy-Boy said:
Hi, I downloaded the BB c software from Voda.de, and installed it onto my Tytn with WM5. the instalation and registering to the network was fine.
but I cant do e-mail set up... it's grayed out and I cant click it...
I also tried registering/creating an account through mobileemail.vodafone.net,
but to no avail. after I input IMEI and PIN, then create Usename and password, I get the notice, "The system has encounted an error".
I thought I might have wrong software, and to keep things simple I put WM6(Official rom from HTC) into handset, then put BB C 4 for WM6, (again from Voda.de) but to no avail. same situation.
the phone connects to BB GPRS/3G, it shows PIN, IMEI, IP.
so connection wise there doesn't seem to be problem.
but cant create an account...
anyone come across same problem??
I've been trying to figgure this out for like three days now.
Thanks to those who'll give me advice!!
BR
Timmy-Boy
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try this....
1) Change device ID, from Start -> Settings -> System -> About -> Device ID to HTC_TyTN
2) Edit your registry: HKLM\System\Versions\AKU key, change the key from (1.0.0) or whatever in there to .0.4.2
lve0200 said:
I have another problem as following:
I carefully checked the BB C services, but I cannot get any synchronisation of deleted mails, neither when I deletem them on the Desktop, nor when I deleted them on the Mobile.
Any experience with that ??
Rgds
hk.
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As he mentioned above I have the same problem. For regular Blackberry devices they give the advice to check the options on the messaging screen and there is setting to choose delete on handheld, both, or prompt, But I could not find any such setting in the BB client for WM6.1
BB Client is 4.0.0.97, desktop software is 4.0.0.18
Any advices?
!!! SOLVED !!!
1. Tap Start > Settings.
2. Tap the System tab.
3. Tap the BlackBerry icon.
4. Tap the Services tab.
5. Tap the BlackBerry [CMIME] service book
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
8. From the Conflicts drop‐down list, tap an option.
9. From the Delete on drop-down list, tap an option.

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