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New pocketPC user. Got the Tilt a couple of days ago. First post, so forgive me. Very PC literate - still learning on the pocketPCs. Testing out ROMs now, thanks to all of you.
When I bought my case (Krusell), I just added on an aftermarket car charger (Fosmon). But I've been reading some of the posts about blown USB ports and a few other issues that seem like they could be power related. As a noob, did a ton of searching on the forum and can't find where anyone has given any opinions about aftermarket chargers. Part of me says stick to HTC or even AT&T brand because they are made for the unit (although an actual HTC is a pain in the ass to find and get shipped to me in Florida for an upcoming trip). Another part says they're all probably made in two factories in China and all I'm doing is paying more than twice as much for the same unit. Just don't want to risk having a problem on my new baby.
Any opinions?
I've been quite happy with my VersaCharger Pro from Boxwave -- works as a wall or car charger, and can put out the 1000 mA the Tilt needs.
Guilf said:
they're all probably made in two factories in China and all I'm doing is paying more than twice as much for the same unit.
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Bingo! I've used Audiovox(HTC), Motorola and Blackberry home chargers, Motorola and no-name car chargers, my work laptop and my home desktop and all have charged my Tilt with no problem at all.
I'm interested in this particular topic too !
It's actually quite hard to get the specs (current in A and voltage in V) for official car chargers ! (and quite hard for many chargers).
The official wall charger gives 1 A and 5 V.
It would seem that you don't find that many mini usb chargers providing 1A.
You can find some on ebay but then most would provide... 5.5 V... could that arm the Kaiser ? I wonder, if anyone's got an idea.
Going for a lower current would mean the charging would be much slower.
Some extra notes about USB car chargers. Usually they will only provide 500mA and you won't have them work well with a regular sync cable (usb <-> mini usb) except if you mod them by welding two pins in the mini usb part (look for more information on the hermes section of this forum).
Today I had someone tell me that the best option for a car is actually an inverter with a home charger plugged into it. They said that Li-Ion and other rechargeables aren't meant to be charged via DC and that's why they sometimes (albeit rarely) brick via car charging. However, an inverter will prevent that. Sounds like BS to me, but I am not knowledgeable at all. Thoughts on this?
Guilf said:
Today I had someone tell me that the best option for a car is actually an inverter with a home charger plugged into it. They said that Li-Ion and other rechargeables aren't meant to be charged via DC and that's why they sometimes (albeit rarely) brick via car charging. However, an inverter will prevent that. Sounds like BS to me, but I am not knowledgeable at all. Thoughts on this?
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I flag BS! The charging circuits for the li-ion batteries are not built into the charger itself. Its built into the device. The purpose of the plug-in chargers is to provide enough current/regulated power to run the device and charger it.
Hi
I want to find a good charger that is correct for the TYTN 11 rather than providing a "close" supply etc. dont want to screw my phone so its worth nothing more than a Traffic warden
I've been using the same car charger since my PPC6700, lol. that almost 3 years spanning gthe 6700, 2 different MDAs, an 8525 and now my Tilt. All working with no issues whatsover.
Bought the charger from one of those mall carts for 14 bucks. 8)
use a genuine HTC
i use a genuine Htc one as i had a powered brodit and it would charge the phone no problems so far with Htc charger
Has anyone managed to find one yet?
I've tried a number of places (ever since expansys sent me what they thought was a touch pro charger but turned out to be for the old htc phones - new connector on Touch Pro and Diamond)
I hate to get caught with a flat battery.
Erm... The Touch Pro connector is the same as every other HTC phone I've come across (i.e. the Hermes and Kaiser) and is charged by mini USB.
I'm using the car charger I had for an old Motorola V3, it's actually an official Morotola branded charger but it works fine on the Raphael - all usb power is a standard 5V after all, so I knew no harm would come to it!
I've also ordered a solar charger with built in 2000mAh emergency battery too, it came this morning but nobody was in to take delivery, so I've got to go and get it from the royal mail place tomorrow!
looks like I might have been wrong, the connector shape is different, but my old charger still fits...
apologies all
you can use any 5v mini usb car charger. need not be an htc branded charger
My brother had one for his motorola krazr back in the day, it's a wall and car charger in one (you can flip out the different attachments)... He now has a samsung, so I swiped his.
I'm using the original one from HTC, the HTC CC C100.
Since my TyTNII I faced problems that other carchargers didn't provide enough power to load the TyTNII.
The original loader didn't face this problems.
And in Holland it was €20.00 so not much more than an unbranded one.
Now I'm using it with my Touch Pro
twisted-pixel said:
looks like I might have been wrong, the connector shape is different, but my old charger still fits...
apologies all
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Mogul is same way. You can use regular USB, but modified has other sound features or whatever
OK I received the solar charger I mentioned in post #2 today. It's working now but I had a couple of issues with it! Here's a copy of the e-mail I sent to the company I bought it from:
ukdj78 said:
My solar charger has now arrived. First off I should like to point out that the information on your web site is incorrect as the instructions for my product say that the internal battery is only 1350 mAh not 2000.
Secondly, I could not get the internal battery to charge from my PC's usb port at first. I noticed the led light flickering very faintly so I prised apart the plug which connects to the unit and noticed that it had been soldered in such a way that two of the connections inside the plug were touching each other! I lightly bent them apart and plugged it back in and it works fine now.
Thirdly, I noticed that the product was also shipped with a mains adaptor to charge the internal battery (which I can't use in the UK as it has an American mains plug). My one rattled! Seeing as I wasn't planning to use it anyway, I thought I'd investigate what was causing the rattle and I found a piece of loose metal wire about 3 cm long inside the adaptor! As you would understand this was potentially very dangerous!
I do not wish to return my product as it is now working satisfactorily, but I thought you might like to pass my comments on to the product manufacturer. There was a card in the box that says QC Pass #06. Obviously this quality checker isn't very good at his job considering I found two potential short circuit issues!
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Here is the rather quick response I got:
David from Donba.com said:
Hi, ukdj78:
Luckily we have customers like you who knows about things and understand that ultimately we do not have control of the product's quality as we are only the seller. I have forward your email to our purchaser and we will never order anything from the same manufacturer again. Poor quality products not only make us lose money, but our own company image. And like what you said, a risk for our customers.
As for your order. I will refund you the shipping charge to make it free shipping as a compensation for all the inconveniences you experienced.
Again, we are very much appreciated your understanding and your comments.
David
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By the way, if anyone does like the idea of a solar charged emergency battery there's also this one from Handtec. Looking at the specs and dimensions and the fact that Handtec have added a note saying it's black not silver as pictured makes me think it's the exactly the same product as the one I've got. The only reason I ordered from Donba is that they were cheaper. I didn't realise at the time of ordering that even though Donba have their prices in £'s they're actually based in the US and ship directly from the manufacturer in Hong Kong, so it took quite a while for mine to arrive. Handtec are UK based, so you should get a UK power adaptor (if you get one at all) and it should arrive much quicker, they're reliable too, I bought my Touch Pro from them!
Obviously considering my experience though, it may be wise to find a different model that does the same thing just to be on the safe side!
I'm gonna buy a originally adapter 4 sure!
So I know 4 sure it's working correctly!
I Have Athena & Axim X51v for sale if anyone interested b4 I stick on Ebay.
Athena has a slight crack just above were you put the stylus in but aother than that its in perfect working order. Any offers?
The Dell Axim X51v has loads of extra stuff with it. Any offers?
Will be sticking on Ebay next week but thought i'd try here first.
I am in the UK.
Thanks
Melmac
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im in the uk
how much for the athena?
I am also selling my HTC Advantage (no Dopod, T-Mobile ..., it's original HTC).
You get the Device, a second Battery, a VGA Cable, original Leather Case, Car mount (with Loudspeakers for Navigation and Charger), a ****ing awesome Docking Station (PC sync, HTC charge, 2nd battery charge, vga, s-video, chinch, usb for keyboard or mouse), 2 screen protectors (one applied and one spare), ac adapter and the original box.
offer me a good price and you will get a good device + accessories.
@Srv-02 : hi srv, could I just buy ur docking station (PC sync, HTC charge, 2nd battery charge, vga, s-video, chinch, usb for keyboard or mouse) ? I give you USD20 for that EXCLUDING shipping. I live in Jakarta, Indonesia and I can pay using paypal...PM me if you want to negotiate. Thanks buddy..
Srv-02 said:
I am also selling my HTC Advantage (no Dopod, T-Mobile ..., it's original HTC).
You get the Device, a second Battery, a VGA Cable, original Leather Case, Car mount (with Loudspeakers for Navigation and Charger), a ****ing awesome Docking Station (PC sync, HTC charge, 2nd battery charge, vga, s-video, chinch, usb for keyboard or mouse), 2 screen protectors (one applied and one spare), ac adapter and the original box.
offer me a good price and you will get a good device + accessories.
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Were you able to send the pictures? otherwise could you pst them here?
Thanks
Vinny
Since AT&T no longer supports the Tilt i can't buy an original car charger from them anymore. The one i have no longer works, and from what i've gathered across the intarwebz is that unless you have a factory original car charger or l33t soldering skills, you don't get to have a car charger anymore. Is this right?
Since i don't own a soldering gun, is there a car charger that will work guaranteed? I checked HTC's site and it looks like they are just selling cheap aftermarket generic car chargers.
ANy help would be appreciated.
Thanx Snow
i just got mine from seidio in a combo bundle, no problems for me
How long have you had yours Gelf? Mine worked great initially, then one day i noticed it wasn't charging at all.
Car Charger
I am using a car charger from a Blackberry. If fact, my wall chrager is also from Blackberry. Had them left over from the old days.
Never have any problems.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/4072.htm
I have one of these, it's a genuine one and charges as well as a wall charger.
My mini USB connector is knackered after I tried to re-set my phone by jamming the stylus in it, so now I have to wiggle it to get it to charge.
Any mini usb charger will work. depending on the volts it may take longer to charge. I sell them all day at Radio Shack and use it for my tilt. just a generic one will do
Don't go cheap on these -- I had a cheap one that fried a device.
I currently use this Belkin...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FB578I
includes a 1-amp quick-charge port and a standard 500mAh port
Im lucky i have a USB port on my stereo and i just use a standard mini usb cable to charge my phone, otherwise i use any motorola USB charger and i have nvr had a problem with any of those.
There are threads around about car chargers for Kaiser - search is always good. The general opinion seems to be that non HTC chargers can be unreliable. I've tried a few that sometimes charged and sometimes didn't. Often they would charge for a few mnutes then stop. Rarely seem to charge with GPS running, they just don't seem able to supply the power needed. However I bought a 'genuine' HTC charger from ebay and it's been working great for months. They're still available for aound $AUS20. I think it's worth trying to find one that states 1 amp output from memory. In fact, think I'll buy another now just in case they disappear! Can't remember exactly who it came from though.
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There are threads around about car chargers for Kaiser - search is always good. The general opinion seems to be that non HTC chargers can be unreliable. I've tried a few that sometimes charged and sometimes didn't. Often they would charge for a few mnutes then stop. Rarely seem to charge with GPS running, they just don't seem able to supply the power needed. However I bought a 'genuine' HTC charger from ebay and it's been working great for months. They're still available for aound $AUS20. I think it's worth trying to find one that states 1 amp output from memory. In fact, think I'll buy another now just in case they disappear! Can't remember exactly who it came from though.
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Yup yup. Go HTC if you want reliability. I had a 'Tesco Value' one that showed it was charging but I could never work out why my battery was dying. I found an app that logs the mA charge or discharge rate and that told it's own story; when the Kaiser is working hard - GPS, bluetooth and a couple of apps running it can be pulling well over 500mA. Spend the money, it's worth it.
I got a phillips car charger from Asda for £5. Has tips for most types of phone including mini-usb. Charges my kaiser fine.
Hi,
I always answer the same when I see this kind of demand: buy the official HTC one, it cost something like 10 euros in the EU (probably 10-15 $), and you'll have no problem (see a previous post here).
I had a cheap one, it was a no-go. ince then it's perfect.
deuzeff said:
Hi,
I always answer the same when I see this kind of demand: buy the official HTC one, it cost something like 10 euros in the EU (probably 10-15 $), and you'll have no problem (see a previous post here).
I had a cheap one, it was a no-go. ince then it's perfect.
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Agreed. The official charger has worked very well for me. Got mine here. Mailed same day and Priority Mail. Have ordered a number of things from them and highly recommend.
I use a motorola v3x car charger
Thanks for the help with alternate ideas and places to look at for buying an official adapter. I'll look around.
I bought a generic one off of Amazon and that worked for about 3 days and then it stopped charging as well. I hope that i can find a solid alternative.
And for anyone who mentioned that i should use the search or off handedly implied that i did not search. You should really stop with that behaviour. It makes you sound like a pompous clown and doesn't add anything of value to this thread or to this site for that matter. For those that provided valuable input, thank you very much for your time and consideration.
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And for anyone who mentioned that i should use the search or off handedly implied that i did not search. You should really stop with that behaviour. It makes you sound like a pompous clown and doesn't add anything of value to this thread or to this site for that matter. For those that provided valuable input, thank you very much for your time and consideration.
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Apologies if my comment sounded rude, it was simply meant to alert you to the fact that there are many threads on this topic that may help and you didn't mention that you have searched already. I know the search function on these large boards is less than efficient and can be frustrating. It's a good idea to mention that you've searched as many people don't bother. For starters, the following threads are related to this issue and have more info than this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406771
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274665
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382081
Personally I only reply to questions if I think I can help and because I've had so much help from others, not because I have nothing better to do.
all i have to say is, i'm SURE theres a charging circuit built in that will not allow it to charge at too high of a rate in mA's, the OEM one is fairly high (like 850 or 1a as some have said) although i've had fine luck using pretty much anything, i use a mini-usb cable attached to a computer to charge most of the time, the USB standard will allow a max of 500mAh, so it takes longer, but whatever, i have also used Mot. V3 chargers for a long time with fine luck, really the only one i have that doesnt work is my bluetooth headset charger, and its mini-usb but its rated for an output of 350mA!
I had similar problems with my Kaiser. For almost a year it would charge with car charger then it stopped. It would charge fine on AC and computer USB but not in the car.
If you look inside the USB port on the phone at the bottom are two little tabs/fingers. They need to be lifted up to make contact with the charger. I took a dental tool and slightly lifted them so they make better contact with charger plug.
Also make sure that the plastic inside the usb on the phone is not curved or bent as some of the pins will then not touch then. I straightend out the plastic tab inside the USB with a small screwdriver and then made sure that the little grounding legs were bent up a bit and bingo it works.
I use a Motorola charger as well in the car and it worked fine for Blackberry and other phones I checked so I knew the issue was in the phone.
Buying a new charger may not solve the problem if its in the phone. Thanks to those who posted their findings as after I searched I was able to peice together a few ideas that worked.
go to ur local office supply and get one of those cigarette usb chargers (mine is for an HP Ipaq I used to have) and use your data cable ... it works fine
zelendel said:
Any mini usb charger will work. depending on the volts it may take longer to charge. I sell them all day at Radio Shack and use it for my tilt. just a generic one will do
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hmm Scary!