Wizard pin out - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

mini usb pin out
i want to use BT car charger for my wizard

Pinout for Mini USB Connector is:
1: +5v DC
2: Data -
3: Data +
4: GND
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I'm not quite sure what your trying to use to power it but the voltage must be between 4.75 and 5.25V otherwise its gonna get a bit upset!

I want to use BT-338(http://www.globalsat.com.tw/english/products_detail.php?main_id=20&p_id=74) car charger
On AC power supply of this device are writen +5V 1.2A i hope that car charger will be the same voltage?

The car charger will give out the same voltage but I would put a voltmeter across it anyway just to check and also to confirm the polarity as this could well upset the XDA! The highest amperage across a USB bus is (I think!) 500mA but a 1.2A supply will be ok as the device will only pull what it requries. Don't try and power both devices off the same charger though (just checking this isn't what your trying to do) as there won't be enough power to go around.

barnesdmd said:
Don't try and power both devices off the same charger though (just checking this isn't what your trying to do) as there won't be enough power to go around.
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I was just thinking about doing something like that. How much power does the BT mouse require? Given the XDA can be powered from a standard usb connector it doesn't require more than 500mA. So do you think 700mA aren't enough for BT mouse??

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I would put a voltmeter across it anyway just to check and also to confirm the polarity as this could well upset the XDA!
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yes i will do this
barnesdmd said:
Don't try and power both devices off the same charger though (just checking this isn't what your trying to do) as there won't be enough power to go around.
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i will use for xda or for gps...

Joschkopf said:
So do you think 700mA aren't enough for BT mouse??
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I have no idea to be honest! I havn't used it but it would be worth checking before trying!

barnesdmd: thanks working fine

It "should" be fine to power both off a 1.2A supply (although i dont know if the car charger will be able to supply this or not. mains - 5vDC is very different electronics to 12vDC-5vDC). The worst that should happen is that the GPS needs a large power supply, and the voltage supply will drop (what happens if you draw too much current) The Wizard should then just ignore the useless voltage (below 5v) and not be worried by it.
This is all should and not will, i dont know what components are fitted in the Wizard charging & power circuit.
I haven't tested it personally but do have a reasonable knowledge of electrics & electronics

Can anybody here who has a GPS bluetooth mouse have a look on it's specification? There we should see how much power it requires, so we could be sure

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Best car charger for Kaiser?

As the title says!
I need a car charger and i don't know what to buy...
i wanted something that can last at least 6 months without having the cable damaged due to stretching
I use the cable of my TomTom One XL. Same voltage...
I like using my ebay-bought USB adapter and retractable mini-usb cable. Cuts down on the mess, and lets me charge other USB devices.
I use Motorola OEM that I got long time ago (4 years back with my first RAZR) - It works no problem
I also use regular USB cable with my wife's iPhone car charger and works fine too... So I guess Blackberry charger will do the same since I use Blackberry as home charger too occasionaly
Note that many of the miniusb chargers will not work consistently. Elsewhere here on the forum there are extensive details, but in short, HTC compliant chargers (meaning will charge 100% of the time) short pins 4-5 on the mini usb port. This is not implemented in normal mini usb chargers. The normal (non-HTC compliant) will usually work but not always.
Read about a small percentage that seemed to have trouble (RLOD related trouble) from cheap or non-HTC chargers, so I got a true HTC OEM at www.tiltdepot.com. Best $25 I've spent.
I have used a tomtom car(borrowed from my mom) charger too, wich is 2.0 Ah, but found out the HTC charger (same 2.0 Ah same voltage) charged a lot better than the tomtom one. After one hour(started with a 3/4 charged battary) the tomtom was pretty much the same(3/4) and the HTC one was fully charged.
Yep... With the TomTom charger I believe the charging current is limited because the HTC phone sees it as potentially a data connection. The HTC charger has short between pins 4 and 5 addresses that. Hard to beat the HTC charger.
Naztech Premium LCD Display Car Charger:
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http://www.naztech.com/products.php?id_prod=40
The "11 Foot Heavy-Duty Cord" is nice... it's coiled tightly, and long enough to get to wherever you need to in the front of the cab, be it a center console or a seat. The digital display tells you how long it's been charging, and changes color when still charging the device (blue is standby, orange is charging). Nothing beats the Naztech for a USB car charger. I have the silver one, but it looks like the newer ones are black; you can probably get your choice of either if you get one off of Ebay like I did.
They have lots of other cool products for phones, too.

no charge, no light.....

hi,
i drained my battery completly, and now when i want to charge it nothing hapened. it is not charging, no green light on device..... and i can`t turn it on becouse no juice in battery.... help needed how to charge the batery away from device or something.....
thanx in advance
Well,Jump start the battery,or charge it with Wall charger capable of 1amp out put,it'll start to charge.
To jumpstart the battery use a 9v battery and give the battery a few 30 second charges which should give it enough juice for the phone to boot and get it charging from the usb cable or wall charger thats less than 1amp.
It may take a few attempts to get enough charge.
Also cutting and end of a spare usb cable and using that to jumpstart the battery is possible too.
it would be more nice that if u could show it with picture illustration guide (if possible)
by the way. Is this the 9v battery u were refering too:-
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hey dhawal4u stop spaming ) ..... and don't do 30 seconds shocks...try firstly with 15 seconds...or use a wall charger like zabardast said..it's safer
I guess charging it using a USB cable may also work because when my battery all once drained i used a USB cable to charge it and it worked but for sometime in the starting dont do anything after sometime its orange light will automatically be on or you can use the Wall charger as other are saying and once problem is solved do tell in the THREAD so that people dont post replied saving sites bandwidth.
usb cable jump worked for me. happened to have one usb cable without another head so tried it, few less than 10sec spikes and then connected to computer and boom it started charging
thanks.
tunppi said:
usb cable jump worked for me. happened to have one usb cable without another head so tried it, few less than 10sec spikes and then connected to computer and boom it started charging
thanks.
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Hi,
Could you tell me how to do this? Which are the + and - contacts of the wizard's cell?
Thanks.

Car charger Modding

I noticed a few complaints on this forum and others about Goggle Navigation being too much of a drain on the handset even with it plugged into a car charger.
My suspicion is that this is down to badly made car chargers, and on a previous occasion using the Testing menu, I noticed that my own charger was being reported by the phone as USB.
So I set about trying to rectify this, using my awesome rolleyes knowledge of how the phone recognises what it's being charged with and an 'I don't care if I kill the charger, it was free' attitude.
I took it apart and tested continuity between the 2 middle (data) pins on the USB plug, there was none, and the problem was identified. I simply flipped the board over and soldered these 2 pins together and reassembled the charger.
Took it out to the car, plugged it in and lo and behold, the Testing menu now reports that it is plugged into an AC source! As my phone is fully charged and I don't have any trips planned right now I don't know how much real world difference there is, but it's looking promising, at least the phone now knows it can draw 1000mA instead of 500mA, and for 5 minutes 'work' it was worth doing.
I didn't bother with a how-to as I figured chances of someone having the same charger as me were slim, but pics aren't a problem:
Here is my universal USB charger with the cover removed:
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and the reverse side with the 2 pins soldered together:
Probably doesn't tell you a huge amount unfortunately, but to be honest that's because it really is a simple procedure with not much to tell.
where did you get your universal charger? I'm wanting to chop one up and hide the nexus dock on the side of my GTI instead of blocking my 6" double din monitor..
Almost like you can do your radar detector..
-Chalrie
It was an Xmas present, part of a universal kit. It's made by Mountech if it helps though.
thanks I'll look it up, hopefully most universal ones are designed the same usb wise then I could dremel my dash and have a easy access usb port for nav.
Fail!
Despite the mod, it's still not enough to charge/sustain the N1 with Google Navigation running (screen on full brightness). Guess it's just not man enough to produce the required 1A.
I have a USB port installed in my car as per the headunit
at full brightness and while using google navigation AND streaming Slacker via bluetooth... I do not have a -% charge
in fact, the N1 stays fully charged at all times... (however if I have less than 100%, it does take a long time for the % to go up... might take 5 minutes for 1% increase)
sooo I'm not sure what the problem is with the car chargers (as I don't use one)
I have a USB headunit and never thought to try and charge from it! D'oh!

DI, Igo and power ratings.

I have and igo with the microusb tip and my DI is headed home soon. I was checking stuff out at the store and I got a long lecture about how power ratings can be different. Clearly verizon sales reps are better than electrical engineers. Anyways so the power ratings on the igo happen to be 4-5w, does anyone know what the ratings on the DI stock charger.
Even better if anyones charged their DI using Igo, how is that working out?
My fuze used to run a little hotter than usual on the igo.
The HTC charger that comes with the phone is just a little stub that plugs into the wall with a female usb connector on it to accept the micro usb cable that ships with the phone.
It outputs 5v at 1 amp.
Here's a photo of the charger:
(the part that's obscured by the flash says 50-60Hz)
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I have an iGo charger as well and was planning to order a tip for this phone. Is it the A97 tip? The iGo site doesn't have the Incredible in their system yet.
very nice picture, thanks for the detail. the igo is rated at 5 watts so its perfect for this. and yes i think a97 is micro usb, however there are many micro usb tips and all of them work. easiest way to make sure is just carry your phone when u go get the tip. unfortunately i have left my tip in the car so i cant say for 100% but the packaging reads A138 which is another microusb. on monday i get my phone so i can hook it to the car and verify.
Has the A138 been working for you? I ended up getting a few A46 tips instead of the micro USB tips because my local Radioshack had them on clearance for about $2.50 a piece. The micro USB tips were $10.
The A46 is a female USB-A connector so it will work for pretty much anything that uses USB, provided you have the proper USB cable to connect it. I got a few 1.5' micro USB cables from monoprice for that part of it.
I haven't used these enough to notice if it's charging significantly faster/slower than the stock charger, but it seems to work fine. I wish iGo would publish the specs for all the tips (amps, volts, etc) instead of just listing compatible devices.
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[Q] Broken microUSB port, not charging or data working.

Hi,
I don't know if I'm posting in the right section, but here is the thing. I've got GeeksPhone Keon Developer Preview, It's a Firefox OS phone, but I've flashed an Android version on it. Everything worked great for about 6 months, and then the phone stopped charging, and it was also not detected by PC. When I plug it to a PC the phone does not detect it's plugged in also the PC does not detect the phone. I tried other microUSB cables and it's the same. I also tried flashing the Android again as I thought maybe it's software related but the problem still exists. Hopefully I installed recovery on it. I currently charge the battery externally, everything else works as expected.
Yesterday I decided to mess with the phone, as I don't have the warranty. I opened it up and checked if the phone actually has power when plugged to the charger. I noticed that the battery is powered so It is charging but the Android OS does not detect that, and decreases the battery via software. I think that the D+ or D- pins are broken, and I'm not sure if they are used for the phone to know if it's charging.
Here is the picture of the circuit board and my findings. Camera is not great so the picture is not that great also.
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0. Is the microUSB port, and I guess there is a problem with it, maybe D+ or D- pins got broken.
1. Those are D+ and D- resistors they are good I've tested them.
2. Those are battery pins. When I probed them when micro USB is plugged in they have power.
3. It's some kind of a IC for power, I think it's used to switch power to the battery from microUSB.
I don't have that good soldering skills so I couldn't resolder the microUSB port, so I'm asking if someone knows another approach to enable the charging via software, as software does not detect that battery is charging, when actually power from microUSB comes to the battery, and because of that it decreases the battery status on Android.
So I'm thinking if I can execute some command so I can trick the phone to believe it's charging, so the battery will charge and when I plug it out I execute the second command to turn off fake charging?
Thanks in advance!
Funny that you have this problem, I just fixed mine today that had the same problem. Basically the micro usb port stopped working because the parts soldered on the motherboard were loose after too much wiggling (cheap mtk phone I guess). I tried resoldering but its just too small, I could not event test the connexions with a multimeter. So I went to one of the million of asian cell phone shops in indonesia where I'm actually travelling and paid 5$ for a guy to fix it. They do it all the time and have expert fingers. Not my phone plugs perfectly, try to find one near your place, wherever that is
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vita94 said:
Yesterday I decided to mess with the phone, as I don't have the warranty. I opened it up and checked if the phone actually has power when plugged to the charger. I noticed that the battery is powered so It is charging but the Android OS does not detect that, and decreases the battery via software. I think that the D+ or D- pins are broken, and I'm not sure if they are used for the phone to know if it's charging.
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What happens if you put a charge over those connections? It won't accept any? Or does it charge but the software isn't detecting it? Another way of fixing it would be making a separate charger for your battery only, of course that would mean that your phone is useless while charging. I'm pretty sure if you force a charge over it it will absorb it, but I wouldn't exactly know how you could check the battery status so that you don't overcharge it this way.

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