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This may sound numb but how do we undertsand if a computer has service pasck 2 installed? I am asking this because I am using w2000 and planning to do the upgrade to 2005 by using one of my friends laptop. Or is it possible to upgrade through w2000?
Thanks in advance...
a bit cunfused there
there is a os called pocketpc 2000 it's very old
and no himalaya device have ever come with it installed they come with
WM2003
there is an os called windows 2000 it's workstion and server based
and came before XP it's current service pack is 4 i believe
any himalaya device can be upgraded to 2005 as far as i know
so if you are talking about the MW servicepack which is included in
1.72 then i would not worry too much
ok let me explain.
I bought an T Mobile MDA II yesterday and it is on the way from Germany to Sweden now. Since I am totally new to this, I am trying to read all the things that I can that is relevant to ugrading my MDA II ROM to 2005. I think I figured out how to do it, but the only problem I have is that I do not have a PC (not moble ) installed XP on it. All I have is a PC which has windows 2000 running on it. I am asking is it possible to upgrade my MDAII to 2005 using my PC which has Windows 2000 on it.
Since according to the instructions of buzz to upgrade to 2005, the PC that you are using should have XP with a service pack 2 installed. I got a friend who has a laptop with the XP installed but I do not know if this laptop has SP2 installed. So the second question is how can I undersatnd if a computer has SP2 installed.
Thanx...
if activesync works then the upgrade works
if activesync works (i'm sure it does) you can check on activesync's site at ms
or try it out
Thanks Rudegar,
I have just installed the AcvtiveSync to my machine that has w2000 on it. It seems that it is working. Now waiting for my machine to arrive :lol:
dr_cikolata said:
Thanks Rudegar,
I have just installed the AcvtiveSync to my machine that has w2000 on it. It seems that it is working. Now waiting for my machine to arrive :lol:
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if you want to know if it is sp2(winxp) installed...right click the ''my computer''>''properties''
you can upgrade to sp2(winxp) for free, just simply click the "windows update'' in your pc.
you can install the AS4 to win2k / 2k3 / winxp but i don't think if you can sync(wm5) it but not all...just try it.
Any of you guys been able to sync your TyTN with Windows Vista.
I'm running Vista Beta 2 v5536 - and syncing is a nightmare.....
ptm
When you say syncing is a nightmare, do you get the setup option for windows mobile center. The similar problem I have is that I only get the connection settings thats it.
In Vista, ActiveSync is replaced by a new app called Windows Mobile Device Centre. By default in Beta 2, this isn't installed, so all you can do is copy file on and off the TyTn.
To install WMDC, you need to plug the device in and let it install the default driver etc. Then, run Windows Update, and you'll have a new Optional Update to install WMDC. Then, let this update run, reboot the machine and plug in the device again. It'll install new drivers again - I think you then need to unplug and replug the device again and you should be sorted.
Thanks Ptm, this used to be the case in the old build. But ever since build 5536 which was released few days ago, it stopped downloading the files automatically. I have run windows updates repeatedly without luck.
I am having the same problem, it syncs my storage card with the media player, and I can browse the device.
But I cannot get it to sync anything else.
I am running Vista 5536.
ah - you're running pre-RC1 builds rather than post beta 2 builds. The WMDC app has changed for RC1 and the registry key required to get the new app downloaded from WU has also changed. You'll have to wait until RC1 comes out - won't be long now
Windows Vista and HTC Prophet Upgrade
I have been living with Windows Vista Beta 2 Build 5384 since June. This is an "evoluting version" that is upgraded/improved/corrected from time to time. All in all I should not have done that and stay with XP Pro but I was not sure how to unistall it. However, the Windows Mobile Sync function works well with my HTC prophet (Qtek S200) which is equipped with ROM 2.15.23.27 WME, 3/9/06, Radio version 02.19.21, Protocol version 4.1.13.09, ExtROM version 2.15.13.121. Last week, after a little research, I decide to upgrade with RUU_Prophet_2151327_22113102_022021_Dopod_PDAMobizEdition_v101 though I was not that sure that it was really an upgrade (I was looking for the Push-Email feature). In any event, the upgrade program did not work. I am stuck. It stopped regularly with a code error [202]: Th update utility (V2.5.2) could not connect to the PDA Phone. All comments are welcome
I think the sync of media player works much better with Vista Pre RC1 than active sync, I have a dual boot, so the other functions I can still use XP.
I hope this is better in RC1 out on Tuesday?
I am using RC1 (build 5600) and still cannot get the Mobile Center up.
I've connected my WM5 BA and although I can browse it - it's as though Mobile Center doesn't recognise it's a WM5 device so doesn't start up. And Activesync, like before, still cannot be installed on 55XX and 56XX builds. Looks like its just a broken feature.
Biohead said:
I am using RC1 (build 5600) and still cannot get the Mobile Center up.
I've connected my WM5 BA and although I can browse it - it's as though Mobile Center doesn't recognise it's a WM5 device so doesn't start up. And Activesync, like before, still cannot be installed on 55XX and 56XX builds. Looks like its just a broken feature.
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No, it's not broken in RC1 - it's just different to the WMDC for beta 2 and I don't think the enabler has been posted publicly yet. The enabler allows you to download the download WMDC from Windows Update by adding a registry key. The new version of WMDC works fine in RC1 (I work for Microsoft btw, so I've got access to the internal versions, but I'm using RC1 - 5600 - and WMDC is fine)
It is difficult for me to argue with a genuine specialist of Microsoft but with respect to the Sync function, I recall that the "Windows Mobile Device Center" that has replaced in Windows Vista the ActiveSync 4.1 of the past did not work until I triggered the firewall options. After it worked well though the Notes included in the Contacts (MC Outlook) are not synchronised correctly. Hence, my surprise for the impossibility to upgrade as explained above.
Ok, I will have to wait until next week to test your views on RC1, as that when its comes on MSDN, subscription which I have.
I'm on 5600 to - any help with WMDC? *cough*
Hey petes. How is RC1, is it stable enough to use as an everyday OS. Does office 2007 work ok on it? Does it work with windows server 2003 r2?
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Hey petes. How is RC1, is it stable enough to use as an everyday OS. Does office 2007 work ok on it? Does it work with windows server 2003 r2?
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RC1 - 5600 - seems very solid. I don't know what the plans are for a later public build of Office 2007, but the build I'm running (which is quite a bit later than beta 2) seems really happy on RC1 - I haven't had any crashes at all - but then 5600 was only cut on 30th os it's pretty new. However, the interim CTP builds have really been making strides each month. I no longer have an XP SP2 partition on my machine - I, and I think many others, will see RC1 as the time to switch.
I'm using Vista Beta 2 and sych with TyTN is fine.
However, I'm having trouble using my TyTN as a laptop modem under IR, bluetooth or USB. Do any Vista users have a similar experience?
I'm using Vista Beta 2 and sych with TyTN is fine.
However, I'm having trouble using my TyTN as a laptop modem under IR, bluetooth or USB. Do any Vista users have a similar experience?
Solved my own problem and I can now use my phone as a laptop modem, by bluetooth, IR and USB with Windows Vista (needed to hard reset my Hermes).
hi,
i'm using 5536 and when i click sync in wmedia player the program crashes. it says a problem caused the program to stop working. any ideas?
thanks.
I have got RC1.5600 now, but the sync still does not work, may I need a fix to enable this, or have to do a hard reset of my tytn.
I am about to upgrade so I wanted to be ready for any problems syncing my 8525 with Vista and Office 2007 (outlook)
Thanks in advance!
Q
same question here!
Really no problems syncing with vista ultimate. But..Rom upgrades and flashing individual portions of rom's like radio or just the os have been a problem. Best solution is to setup dual boot with Vista and XP, so you can still use XP when needed. Each can see or use files on the other partitions.
While I have found very few apps or processes that will not work in Vista or Vista xp compatability mode, there are a few utilities, networking tools, Rom Upgrades, etc that I use that still have some issues with Vista.
Actually, if you have a lot of disk space..It's best to have multi boot..Like Vista, XP, MS Server 2003r2 and Linux all on one machine...Each seems to have some advantages and disadvantages..Each has some tools or other things that can not be accomplished on one particular operating system...
But at least set up dual boot with XP and Vista...That way you are sure to be able to do everything you do today. Both Vista and Ofc2007 are much better than xp and ofc2003. As usual, if using office 2007 and others in your workgroup or office are using 2003, don't forget to save ofc documents in 2003 mode so they can use them...
I have Vista Home Premium, I had slight problems syncing my music in my 2GB Micro SD to WMP 11. I just had to format my Micro SD and it worked perfectly fine. Every thing else works great.
I don't have any luck with connecting my X1 to my computer running Windows 7 beta 32-bit.
Windows mobile device center just stops working.
Anyone tried this and got it to work?
It works for me on Windows 7 Beta 32-bit.
I let Windows Update install any software it could find, got the sync centre and devices program up and running.
yep works fine here i just installed the wmdc 6.1 for vista and it works, do you have av or firewall interfering?
Nope crashes Activesync here as well. The phone still connects tho, and can be browsed via explorer
use windows mobile device manager, download that and it will sync fine...i already use Windows 7 to flash, so everything works fine. if you install that
if there is no other way for you labaan, try to use vm-ware and install xp32
into vmware. i`ve flashed one of my phones with vm-ware under server 2003 (32bit).
for example, the nokia software is not installable under 2003. (wrong os error)
vm-ware works (under 2003) fine.
THJahar said:
Nope crashes Activesync here as well. The phone still connects tho, and can be browsed via explorer
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Are you using the win 7 beta?
activesync is for XP it's not the right program to use at all!
Hey Win 7 users... howz it going so far? I loved the new Beta! it was faster than Vista and more stable too... but i reverted back to vista for the time being. But already Vista is giving me troubles so i'm thinking of moving up again... what say you?
msalmank said:
Hey Win 7 users... howz it going so far? I loved the new Beta! it was faster than Vista and more stable too... but i reverted back to vista for the time being. But already Vista is giving me troubles so i'm thinking of moving up again... what say you?
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dual boot! works for me
fards said:
dual boot! works for me
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When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.
fards said:
Are you using the win 7 beta?
activesync is for XP it's not the right program to use at all!
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Sorry meant Windows Mobile Device Centre (It wont even launch just crashes straight away)
msalmank said:
When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.
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I Love Windows 7, it's what that bloody awful Vista should have been, took me ages to get games to work on Vista without crashing every 10 minutes, and you can notice the speed increase especially on my laptop
THJahar said:
I Love Windows 7, it's what that bloody awful Vista should have been, took me ages to get games to work on Vista without crashing every 10 minutes, and you can notice the speed increase especially on my laptop
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Windows 7 is definitely a step in the right direction. An OS that actually will not only be powerful, stable, and fast! but will go head-on with MAC OSX and others in terms of interface!
I love the new wallpaper schemes that lets you set a wallpaper slideshow!
Can't wait to see what they've got planned for Windows 7 for Mobile Devices...
msalmank said:
When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.
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Wow. Even more of an early adopter than I am. I have been running Win7 for a while, but I always dual boot. I used to dual boot Vista and XP but never used XP. Now I dual boot Vista and 7, but I like to stay in 7. I was using the PDC build with the goodies unlocked. Just installed the official beta today and will try to sync soon.
fards said:
yep works fine here i just installed the wmdc 6.1 for vista and it works, do you have av or firewall interfering?
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For a start, I agree with others in this thread - w7 is definitely a nice xperiance!
But unfortunately I have still not been able to get my mobile device center to like me. Tried installing wmdc 6.1 for vista 32, but got some error message during installation process stating that 'device not connected'. I'm getting this no matter if my device is connected or not.
On the other hand, when I see in the program list it seems like it was 6.1 that was installed from the beginning?
Even though wmdc crashes when attempt to connect, I get the double arrow on device and I can browse it with explorer on w7. Should be nice to have the sync part work though ...
laaban said:
For a start, I agree with others in this thread - w7 is definitely a nice xperiance!
But unfortunately I have still not been able to get my mobile device center to like me. Tried installing wmdc 6.1 for vista 32, but got some error message during installation process stating that 'device not connected'. I'm getting this no matter if my device is connected or not.
On the other hand, when I see in the program list it seems like it was 6.1 that was installed from the beginning?
Even though wmdc crashes when attempt to connect, I get the double arrow on device and I can browse it with explorer on w7. Should be nice to have the sync part work though ...
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Thats odd, there was no wmdc installed on mine, just a pointless "sync" control panel.
..Sorry to interrupt your talks.
Are you synchronizing your Device with only 1 PC or 2 PCs?
I refering to another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3161672#post3161672) - with less responses..
while wondering, because for me it seems that no one is really using the synch features.
Maybe somebody will have more news on that strange behaviour.
By the way MS, SE and HTC know the problem.
Cheers
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I had to disable advanced network mode (aka disable faster data sync) in USB to PC to get it to work. Syncs fine now. I am set up to sync with my exchange server, vista partition of my laptop, and 7 partition of my laptop. (I dont actually sync with my laptop; just set it up to sync so that I dont get the WMDC popup everytime I plug in; I mainly plug in to use for debugging and internet access through PC).
After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake
I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
TRoN_1 said:
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s