Can Himalayas control each other using bluetooth? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi,
I did ask about this on Networking but no replies. Think its more of a development issue.. there's potentially money to be made if someone comes up with a solution for this, I think, because of its film/tv industry applications....
I'm looking for a way to synchronize video playing on two Himalayas, presumably using Bluetooth. Although there are plenty of apps that let you control a media player on your pc using a Himalaya, I can't see anything that lets two phones control each other. Is it possible? It must be. I'm reasonably technically savvy (hardware and software) and am looking into developing something that does this, for my work in sound design and foley for films.... where having a mini, portable, silent-operating video player as a reference is a great advantage - nothing like that exists at the moment that has the capability for one person to control the video starting on another handheld player. Film industry has a lot of money to spend compared to consumers so a developer coming up with an app that does this might be able to market it!
Anyone interested in looking into this please post and I'll share the ideas, details etc that I've come up with so far...
Thanks!

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Challenge for those who know what the heck they are doing

So, I appreciate this website alot, my htc wizard probably wouldn't be useable on a daily basis without the great software and suggestions that I have found here. However, there is one aspect of my wizard that I would love to see improved, and as I have no ability as a software developer I thought I'd throw out a challenge to all of you out there.
I would like to have a today plugin for TCPMP that has buttons for play/pause, next, and back. This would allow all of us who use this great player to control it from the comfort of our today screen.
I have searched high and low for this functionality for TCPMP, and have been unable to find it. If some enterprising soul out there wants to take on this challenge I am sure that I and many more out there would be supremely grateful.
Thanks!
No takers?
maybe ask the guy who made one for MortPlayer;
http://www.sto-helit.de/modules/edito/content.php?id=15
or use MortPlayer instead of TCPMP, maybe

PocketPC as MIDI controller?

This may be a stupid question, but is it possible to send real-time MIDI data over the USB link between PPC and computer (or via a wifi SD card for that matter)?
I've been playing with this Clanger Theremin app that turns your PPC touchscreen into a musical instrument of sorts - movement on the X axis changes pitch, movement on the Y axis changes volume.
It would be great if the entire touchscreen could be set up to send changes in MIDI values to a program running on the PC, also using the X and Y axes. Once MIDI data can be transferred, you could play the tuba via your PPC, or scratch virtual records like a dj, or really do just about anything.
There's already a program in development that allows you to do this with a Wacom drawing tablet (http://www.livelab.dk/tablet2midi.php), but a drawing tablet is already set up via USB to be a human input device or whatever you call it, so I wonder if the link between tablet and computer is at all similar to that between PPC and computer.
So would something like this be possible? Or is this just a pipe dream?
Wouldn't you just create a server on the desktop and get the client to connect to it through the Activesync network connection or bluetooth personal area network? The server would then have to behave like a MIDI device which might be the hard part. Would the PocketPC client produce MIDI events or send simpler x/y coordinates to the server which would then generate MIDI events?
this is a bloody excellent idea!!!
i can never have enough x/y pads!!!!!
anyone fancy a crack at it?
it should be pretty simple!
should have the option that when its touched it activates a switch (simple NOTE ON when pressed/ NOTE OFF when released). ive got annoyed with many xy pads for that reason!
i have a friend who may find this pretty easy.. sadly my code skills in that area are lacking severely.
i suspect he is too busy though..
i am quite liking the idea of the server/client method, with the ppc sending the data to a server that then converts that to midi data...
perhaps even a clever card export style driver emulation.. (only requires a pc driver instead of server program)
assignable hardware buttons!! great for activating effects..
anyone got any ideas?
edit: had another idea
great, i'm glad somebody else likes this idea! I guess the question is - how do you get a project like this started? I also don't have the coding experience that would allow me to make this myself.
Could I (or we, if there are more people that want this made) offer some sort of bounty for a finished app? Is there any system in place online for doing something like this? Something where you give a list of necessary specs and then post a reward for delivering a working app?
I certainly couldn't offer heaps, but if a bunch of people got together who wanted this and chipped in a bit of money each, perhaps it might motivate somebody to spend some time creating the thing. Programmers: how much would it take to convince you to spend some time creating something like this?
Or, if any experienced coders out there have a couple of ideas on how to do this and could point me in the right direction, perhaps I could do some research and eventually build this myself. As it is right now, I don't have a clue as to how to begin - can you send data of any kind down the USB link? Or over bluetooth, or wifi? What language should be used to program this?
Otherwise, if you're already interested in making a pocketpc into an x/y controller, and have the skills to do it, I can tell you that it'll be greatly appreciated.. Maybe I should post this topic outside of the Magician forum, as something like this could be useful for anybody with a pocketpc that has a touchscreen.
Anyway, I really hope that this can someday happen, it would be wonderful if it could. Perhaps focusing on MIDI data is a bad idea - if the touchscreen could be used to control anything on the PC then it might appeal to a wider range of users (and programmers). Imagine using your touchscreen via bluetooth to control Winamp from across the room, just moving your thumb up or down to raise or lower volume. I'm sure there are a huge variety of other uses that could come in handy as well. Assignable hardware buttons would be amazing...
There is already plenty of software that allows you to control your PC via your PPC (pocket VLC, winamp remote etc etc etc) but this doesnt neccesarily help matters.
If you have to have the controller on the screen of the host machine... you may as well be using a damn mouse.
I suggest a complete midi send system that will make the ppc work as if it is a real MIDI controller. This way you can use it as a system of control for elements that wont be controlled by devices you can have on-screen.
Im going to look into this later, im just about to do some important house related things
keep the ideas coming

Orb.com-like open source project

For the past week or two, I've been looking into developing an open source project similar to Orb.com where you can stream A/V content to your phone or PDA. There was something similar posted to the Hermes forum by fun_key, but that was unfortunately not true media-on-demand, because it started VLC (www.videolan.org) and then would have the client connect, which would make the client miss the beginning of the media, sometimes a lot depending on connection lag.
The interface of this project would be web-based, again, like Orb. The problem I have run into, however, is the actual streaming. I have looked into using ffmpeg (has compatibility issues), mplayer (can't stream out; uses ffmpeg), and VLC, among others. VLC seems to be the most promising one, but I have some issues with it.
The main issue is due to me trying to make this work with WMP and not CorePlayer/TCPMP because of the video problems that has on the Hermes (and because it would be nice to stream to PCs at university/work without installing stuff on them). I managed to do some test streaming to desktop WMP, but the mobile one just won't work - it seems to be trying to download the entire file before playing it, which is not going to happen because it's huge.
So I am asking for any kind of help or suggestions that any of you might have. Especially if someone here is familiar or has worked with Microsoft's ASF specifications and is willing to help, that would be awesome.
EDIT: Almost forgot -- this project would work on at least Windows and Linux.
Cool! I can't really help you,
but I just wanted to say I very much like the idea!
I've been looking for this since I learned about orb.
I even made a dual boot windows xp install specially for Orb, so when I leave my house, I reboot the PC in WinXP to lbe able to listen to music and watch TV on the go.
A linux alternative would make this unnecessary!!
Please someone who can help, join this project!!
Strange, I thought I was subscribed to this thread, but I didn't get any notification of your post, ksdz...
Anyway, I've pretty much given up on using WMP because have neither the time nor the patience to study and code for the ASF protocol, but I have not given up on the idea itself.
Right now I'm working on another project, but once that's ready, I will most likely return to this. I might as well make use of CorePlayer/TCPMP - in fact I've already figured out how to do the most challenging parts of this. I only wish I had more time to work on personal projects such as this one.

Rhapsody music streaming... I'm willing to BEG! :)

I've posted a couple requests like this in the past year, but no one bit. It's understandable as maybe not many people here use the Rhapsody service (it is currently only available in the US ).
I would be willing to beg on my knees (or pay money too ) to a developer who could throw together a simple app to stream Rhapsody's music to our phones.
I've tried streaming from Rhapsody.com with every mobile browser in existence, and none will do it. So I think a proper app is the only way to go.
I've attached what Real Networks refers to as "Rhapsody's SDK." It's not so much an SDK as much as it is documentation on how their streams work in html. I'm sure it would be helpful in some way.
I know with Rhapsody being US only, it really limits the amount of developers who could put something together, but my fingers are tightly crossed
so have I!
Nobody touches my music...
.....
well im sure it is possible. if you maybe make a server at home, then stream through ther??? somehow?
ambush276 said:
well im sure it is possible. if you maybe make a server at home, then stream through ther??? somehow?
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Perhaps. But there are mp3 players that connect directly to Rhapsody's servers via WiFi) without a pc or having to use your home pc, so why wouldn't it be able to be accomplished on a WM phone?
The Nokia N800 has a Rhapsody client. Some-one should really look at that code and see if it could be ported.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/03/27/rhapsody-on-the-nokia-n800/
Surur
surur said:
The Nokia N800 has a Rhapsody client. Some-one should really look at that code and see if it could be ported.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/03/27/rhapsody-on-the-nokia-n800/
Surur
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Nice find, Surur!
bumpity bump
and bump again, SWEEET....
Bump 1 more time. I would love 2 have this
I just recently posted a thread about this as well. I am glad to bump this one up, as old as it is.
Still to this day, nothing, Meanwhile Apple iPhone users may have their Rhapsody streaming application, very soon! Android, right behind them. Blah! What happened to us Windows users? Was Rhapsody not born on the PC? You know, "PLAYS FOR SURE".
Any developers or coders that can look into this, gracias!!! Thank you very much.
Here are some possibly helpful links:
Old Rhapsody remote app. http://www.openrhap.net/blog/
Could be reworked to access Rhapsody catalog through PC as server and then stream the music.
Didiom: http://www.didiom.com/
Capable of streaming Rhapsody DRM protected, non purchased, subcription tracks from PC to PPC.
I have attached the old files from the OpenRhap.net SDK from the Rhapsody Remote project. As well as the Rhapsody Remote and Rhapsody Relay files. For whatever use they may be.

Sweet App Idea

Now I haven't done a ton of development, only real basic stuff only to tinker and learn, but I had an idea for what I would imagine would be a pretty sweet app for WM Phones.
An XBox Interface Application, that would offer a bunch of features for people with XBox Live. What I was thinking was:
Ability to see XBL buddy list
Ability to read and respond to mail
Ability to use the keyboard on the phone to communicate with people on XBL (like the little MS keyboard for XBL)
Ability to use the phone as a "headset", to talk to people on XBL out loud
Access the XBL Marketplace, to purchase items to be downloaded to your XBox the next time it connects (as you can do over the internet now)
I was thinking that it would interface to the XBox using Bluetooth, as I believe that is what their controllers use to talk right now. I think MS could throw their weight behind it and develop this App as it could probably convince some people to look at WM phones over competitors. I don't care about iFart apps, I just want good usable apps that people will want!
And sorry if this is the wrong section to post. It seemed correct to me, but if it isn't please move and I won't be a repeat offender!
Jason
Some of those can be achieved (viewing achievements, buddies), but i dont think that you could use your device as a keyboard without modifying the software on the xbox too (doing that probably gets you banned from XBL). Voice chat would be impractical as you would have to hold the phone whilst playing, which is why a headset is a better idea.
Maybe you can look for it in windows 7, but for the time being, i would suggest just bookmarking the MS website where i beleive you can log in and do everything except use the device as a keyboard or voice chat.
i Like the heaset idea, but it would be better if your not there and can join a party and talk to them while your not at your console.
Another awesome idea:
Make my phone cook for me
Too bad both my idea and your idea can't happen.
I dunno, I think Microsoft could make it work if they decide to put it to the effort. And what I meant by the voice chat is having the phone wirelessly connected to the XBox, then using a headset attached to the phone to voicechat on (since I have all of these old handfree kits floating around that I rarely use, they fall out too easily when I'm walking my dogs, but while sitting there playing rockband I could get one of those to stay in).
Jason

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