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One of our guys got the XDA2 from O2 partly so he could get his email and browse the web while travelling. We assumed that by now O2 would have GPRS deals set up with most of the world's telcos. But not so. They have voice deals with most of the Middle East countries but not GPRS. Is this because these countries have not yet rolled out GPRS or simply that O2 haven't negotitaed a deal yet. Second question - if say Omantel has got GPRS, can he buy a cheapo phone there and subscribe for their GPRS access, but swap the SIM card into his XDA 2 while he is in Oman
Mike
sorry but what is the question if there are any ?
Rudegar said:
sorry but what is the question if there are any ?
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Hi Rudeguy :wink: here they are again then:
Is this because these countries have not yet rolled out GPRS or simply that O2 haven't negotitaed a deal yet. Second question - if say Omantel has got GPRS, can he buy a cheapo phone there and subscribe for their GPRS access, but swap the SIM card into his XDA 2 while he is in Oman
...... since the forum is called 'Using it' I thought these reasonable questions to ask.
Thanks Mike
if o2 dont have a grps roaming deal with the country or if they dont have grps i dont know sorry
if they do have grps then he should be able to get a valid sim for their network and put it in his xda without any problems (in that way it works just like any other callphoene)
but of cause new grps, mms and wap settings would most likely be typed in manualy
about the question thing then well i suppose i just skim'd the text looking for the ? sign
OK ... that sounds promising. But what's this 'locked/unlocked' thing I keep seeing? Is it that straightforward to put in a different SIM card, or have O2 somehow locked the XDA2 to their network?
Question marks included this time .... last post was from my XDA2 ... it doesn't have question marks :wink:
Mike
The xda2 usually comes locked to the network you purchased it from. You can use xda2unlock from this forum to open your phone to all networks, try clicking the shift key on your xda2 keyboard, you might be surprised and see a ????? key.
Hello all ! Being new to swithching roms and all that.
Can you tell me if I can change a new xda2, on o2 ,bought from ebay to orange,since this is the payg sim I use?I know I don't have to but it all comes together better then.
Thanks everyone.
Change to Orange
Yep did mine no problem - jut unlock it with software from this forum and stick the SIM in
xda2 on oange rom
Thanks for reply.
So you just download latest rom from orange,and do upgrade,yes?
Seems to easy.
I actually just put the Orange SIM in and left the O2 software intact. I don't use WAP, GPRS, etc so didn't need to change anything.
I did have a problem with SMS messages being blank, so I upgraded the ROm to the IMate one and found that texts worked OK so log as I put a +44 in front of the phone number.
Good Luck
I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?
I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate
I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.
I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank
I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.
Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.
Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred
Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician
Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.
I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer
Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.
Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.
I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.
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This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well
Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.
Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.
Has anyone managed to get a tytn working on the uk o2 network? o2 say theu do not support the phone although they have the phone in germany listed as an xda trion. I can make calls and texts with my simcard but have no 3g access as yet. The phone was originally on vodaphone. Any help appreciated !
dont you just need to edit the connection settings for o2?
these should be the same for any o2 phone that uses 3g...
i believe they are posted on the wiki
thanks for quick answer
Thats what i thought, but phoned o2 for the settings and they just kept saying that the "software" in this phone is not compatible with o2 network and therefore there is no support for it and no settings ! MUPPETS !
Any idea where i can find the settings for a normal o2 phone?
Worth a try, I really want this phone on o2 !
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Thats what i thought, but phoned o2 for the settings and they just kept saying that the "software" in this phone is not compatible with o2 network and therefore there is no support for it and no settings ! MUPPETS !
Any idea where i can find the settings for a normal o2 phone?
Worth a try, I really want this phone on o2 !
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I smell COW DUNG!!!! O2 are spinning rubbish to you sir...ive been using a TyTN since the middle of August with O2-UK (see stats hehehe).
Il get my settings into a .txt file for you...theres some variations you can use but il set you up with the ones that work ok??
What are you on PAYG or Contract???
P.S: My TyTN is a genuine HTC TyTN (i.e not a varioII or imate JASJAM variation of it) bought it unbranded(unlocked) from mobilefun.co.uk....sim free.
Theres a cab file with the O2 UK settings somewhere on this forum I usen it all the time. Sorry I don't have the link anymore after the XDA Dev switch to new servers. Also O2 3G works perfectly fine with the tytn. What you do have to have is a 3G enabled sim card, I had to get mine changed for one & also do you have O2 3G coverage where you are? To determine if you have just whip out the sim card & it should have 3G printed on it.
Yer if your SIM is not a 3G enabled one (USIM) then give O2 a bell and say you have recently aquired a 3G handset and need a new SIM card for it to work with the 3G service....they should send one out (for free)...when it turns up just call O2 again and get them to enable it.
What they said about the TyTN not being supported is a crock of sh*t .... im guessing they will only give you the settings when its an O2 handset!?
Forgot to add the O2 3G settings are exactly the same as the normal GPRS. You just need a 3G enabled sim card
Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
Sorry I don't have an answer to your problem; I understand car kits using SAP are quite new.
Could you tell me how well it works with other phones in general, and how much you paid?
I understand the SAP system means the car kit has it's own "phone" but accesses your SIM card to connect to the network?
Hi there,
it works great!
You turn on your ignition key and the car kit start opening the connection to your cellular phone in your pocket without any touch of a button ect...
After your drive, you switch of the motor and the car unit disconnects the connection and give the cellular phone its function back.
A great thing, but believe me iam so disappointed that my new Orbit from O2 rejects my simcard but only in combination to my car hands free unit....
Greetings to UK!
Wolf
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Hello, i have a big problem regarding a ORBIT2 from O2. The guys at O2 dont understand my problem , so i hope as the last hope you can help me. As you know the Orbit2 is the same as HTC cruise, o2 has no sim-lock here in germany. I use a sim-card from another telephone company and all works fine. I have problems with the sim-access profile. In my car i have a Nokia 616 Bluetooth hands free unit built in which supports sim- access profile. If i try to establish a connection between the orbit2 and my in car unit it works to the point as they handle out the password. After i confirm the given password from the handsfree device it tells me that the simcard i not valid. Is in the orbit 2 a lock on the bluetooth sim access profile which means that only o2 Simcards are allowed for the Sim access ? Can you please help me, because here is no one which understands my problem. Maybe i can have another firmware to solve the problem,the phone itself is simlock-free.
I dont understand why it is only possible with o2-sim cards to have the sim access functionality.
Can anybody help me?
Greetings Wolfman-Jack
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Hi,
interesting. So just to be clear you tried
1) o2 sim in orbit II - sim access works fine
2) other net sim in orbit II- sim access not work?
if that's the case you could try flashing a new rom, but I would suggest u wait a bit. Maybe check in the kaiser (o2 stellar) forum, for same prob and how to resolve it.
check compatibility of your bluetooth car kit with Polaris seems to be ok
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6084.htm
"This product is compatible with:
. . . .
HTC: Advantage, MTeoR, P3300, P3400, P3600, P4350, P6300, P6500, S310, S620, S710, S730, Touch, Touch Cruise, Touch Dual, TyTN, TyTN II"
so that's out of the way
older thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272235
maybe u could send a pm to mahmood,
ORBIT2 O2 Lock on SIM ACCESS
Hi Jackster,
i have meanwhile a little more what i have checked out.
Yesterday i took all sim-cards which have been in nearby range and what a big surprise all worked fine.
I tried prepaid cards of Vodafone, T-Mobile, and E-PLus and a contract card of E-Plus.
The only simcard which was rejected during the try of connect to the bluetooth devise is my own BASE-SIM-CARD .
BASE is by the why part of EPLUS company thats the FLATRATE PART of EPLUS.
After i tested all, i called my friend which has also an BASE contract and what another big surprise his card also didn`t work.
After all brainstorming it seems that only that BASE-cards were declined.
Next step is to find out what the differences are between all cards and the BASE sim card is. Maybe UMTS and normal GSM????
Maybe a protocol problem, because in my E51 from Nokia all cards also the BASE-CARDS works fine.
Greetings
Wolf
Wolf, I would suggest trying BASE related forums, as the same issue might happen with other handsets.
You might also try phoning BASE, tell them your problem, and asking if they have another type of SIM card you can try, even if you have to pay €10.
Good luck, and please let us know if you find the solution.
good luck
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Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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it would be difficult to get an old simcard, cause all provider deliver as new card so called USIM Card, most times with 72k Size. Try to get a blank E-Plus Simcard in an phoneshop and call the hotline, ask them for a sim card change and tell them you have a blank simcard you can use (dont tell its an eplus sim card) the cant check it, they will reaktivate your simcard with your base number without questions only minor change... in the phone your provider will be stated as E-Plus cause its programmed in your simcard.
Wolfman-Jack said:
Hi there,
i wanna update my investigations.
It works with normal GSM cards (like my old prepaid) but not with the new UMTS cards.
And my provider only has that new UMTS cards.
Maybe i can remove the program in my Phone which is in charge for the SIM-ACCESS Profile and replace it to another version ??????
Greetings
Wolf
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Hello Wolf,
i have the same problem with my new Touch Cruise and my Nokia 616. I tried several Sims´s the last 2 days. One Vodafone (UMTS), one normal O2 (UMTS), one O2-Multicard (UMTS) and one old E-Plus (GSM).
The E-Plus Sim was the only one wich operated normally in SAP-Mode. The other Sim-Cards hanged by connecting after pairing. After turning the igniton off and on, this cards asked for the PIN but they didn´t find a network.
Have you tried another Firmware likes Bepes???
Hello LM76,
no i havent heard about that.
Can you tell me more.
Wolf