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Hi there,
I need some urgent advise:
I have an XDA II from O2 and I now can get a new device from O2 as contract upgrade.
The options are XDAIIs or XDAIIi, alternatively I can dump O2 and make a contract with Tmobile for the MDA(compact), this last option is a bit of a pain though, because most people I call have O2 and also my international calls are cheaper with O2.
I don't use XDA very much as you do and hardly mess up with sw or upgrades. I mainly use it to call, take pictures/videos, watch movies, internet and for remembering appointments...
If it is fast enough I'd like to use it (via wi-fi) to surf the net with my laptop(as I don't have a landline), but I don't know if this is possible...
Now, question is: which one do you suggest me to get? I have to get it by the 30th of july...
Thanks guys!
Gio
Well the MDA compact doesn't have wifi so that might help your descision...
and also would depend on if you would use the keyboard on s
personaly i think that GPRS is way too slow for my temperament
if i wanted to surf from a laptop i would get a 3g phone like the htc universal of cause that will not be out by 30th
thanks.
I don't think I'd use the keyboard as it's probably easier to use the on screen one, also the keyboard feels like it's a bit loose and I'm afraid it might open on its own.
Only good thing I see on the IIs is the quadband that the other doesn't have...
hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb
I had the same dilema and went with the jas jar for several reasons.
1) no o2 commitment (they are, in my personal experince, rubbish in so many ways)
2) cool grey case.
3) imate release rom updates on a regular basis, o2 release one every four thousand years, if your lucky.
4) the jas jar was available sooner
I think you'll find that youll pay the same rate per mb regardless of whether you are using the umts (3g) or edge(2.5g/gprs) networks. you're just liable to use it up faster on umts becaue of the higher data rate! you can force it not to use umts if you want tho'.
Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?
Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?
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that i be. and so am interested on o2 for that sole reason, the other problem im having is i wanna pay abouy £400-£500 (either sim free) or preferable including a 12month contract but cannot find the jasjar for that price even though i found the exec for it so again aaah!
neckarb said:
hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb
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Yes you can force the Universal into GSM mode under settings/phone/Band...There you select GSM instead of 'Auto' under 'Select your network'. Apparently it saves you loads of battery power too as UMTS is power hungry.
Regards
cheers for that mate, can the xda exec be reflashed with an imate rom as im a member of club imate and would love to get the rom updates.
asking for problems
From what i have read from other o2 devices with Imate roms, its is problematic.
get an universal rom first, that way if the imate rom gives your grief, the change back is less trouble.
Please post your findings, it would be interesting.
Can anyone else clarify this? I was intending to get the O2 XDA Exec, but with such a new device and new OS, it's bound to need a ROM upgrade or two. I was looking on the O2 site for ROM upgrades to any of their other XDA devices but couldn't find any which is not a good sign.
My understanding is that i-mate ROM updates will not work on the O2 XDA Exec, in which case I reckon the money saved on an Exec against a Jasjar will not be worth it.
They should be the same hardware, so you could get the slick looking XDA Exec and put the imate ROM on.
it would be great if i could, becuase i found the xda exec £150 cheeper than the jasjar but i love my imate rom updates, has anyone sucsessfully flashed the xda exec or mda pro with the imate jasjar roms?
I’ve done it, I’ve just ordered a T-Mobile MDA Vario, it should be here tomorrow, I cant wait!!!
I’m new to this forum and new to the world of Windows Mobile Devices, however I am far from a novice with SmartPhones.
I have been a big fan of SonyEricsson for many years and am currently looking for a new phone, but lately have lost my feel for SE and have discovered then marvel that is the Wizard!!! Wow, I’m so much going to have one of them!!!
I’ve been reading through this forum and well what can I say, what a fantastic resource, well done!
But what I really want to know is: software? I know the MDA Vario is T-Mobile branded, but what restrictions do they impose on you?
I’m a great believer that hardware developers know what they are doing and Phone Network Operators should leave the software well alone. I have read about unlocking the phone and moving Cab files etc, but what I would really want is to flash it with its “pure” software, is this possible and easy to do and how do I then set up my MMS and GPRS setting?
And am I correct in understanding what I’ve read, that, an out the box MDA Vario wont run ActiveSync?
Thanks in advance
Nick
Nick, an excellent choice of name, and an excellent choice of device
The units ROMs all seem to be largely the same, it's the extended ROM which is different.
T-Mobile's extended ROM installs a load of customisations such as wallpapers, GPRS settings, etc... Nothing seems to hinder you particularly badly , however if you don't want it, hard reset then do a soft reset before it installs the customisations. You then have a virgin machine
The only lock is a simlock, which means that you have to use a T-Mobile SIM with the device. Lokiwiz, a free unlocker, gets around this nicely with thanks to Machinagod, and all those whose work he improved
Oh, and activesync works fine with it, providing you haven't got any weird firewalls running
Welcome to the world of windows mobile
I have had my Vario for about a week and a half now.
If you used the P910 like I did, you will miss the jog wheel utility desperately. A brilliant device that was only let down by the lack of symbian (UIQ) development (it's harder to program.
I used to have a compaq 2210 and ran Pocketinformant. I've just reloaded it on my unit. It's brilliant, you give up a lot for the jog wheel but you welcome back the world of 'drag and drop' and 'double tap'.
If you use a PIM then Pocketinformant cannot be beaten.
Incidently make sure you load activesync 4.1 on your pc, providing you set your catergories in your outlook master list to the same as your device, syncing is superb.
good luck :lol:
I've just switched to Vodafone with an expansys contrct deal after four years with T-Mobile. They (T-Mobile) told me six weeks ago, they'd no idea what a Vario was, and had no information that they were going to get them even though Germany had announced them to the press. Expansys had the 9100 on Voda so off I went. The Vodafone "data" bundle which is SMS or MMS or GPRS out of the same pot is better for me than T-Mobile who would only offer web'n'walk *and* a separate SMS/MMS bundle :-(
Vodafone have been fine, but the SMS voicemail alerts that don't activate the little "tape" message waiting icon really annoys me... ;-)
Dox..
I have also gone from a P900 to XDA mini. Its a bit of a transition and can agree - the wheel on the P900 was a luxury I do miss but there are alot moe benefits
Now - just need to try and work out if I can change the whole ROM from the O2 one
Scott
Thanks for all the info fellas, cant wait for it to be delivered…
Excuse my ignorance, but, the ROM, is that the basic OS and the extender ROM is just the individual network customizations?
I will almost certainly, as a matter of principle, do the SIM unlock, but what is the purpose of the CID unlock?
And, if I do the Hard reset Soft reset trick how will I set up my GPRS and MMS?
Sorry about all the questions, but I’m very inquisitive.
Hopefully this will also be helping fellow novices.
Thanks again everyone.
You can enter the settings manually, which if you have them in front of you is fairly simple. If you need to know what they are (I've entered Vodafone's so often for people at work I can do them in my sleep, but don't know the T-Mobile ones), google is your friend. To simplify the whole thing, Raphael over at BeyondTheTech has the cab file with the settings in here for you to download and install as normal.
If you're not going to let the rest of the extended ROM install, put this on a memory card in case you want to run it again after a hard reset..
Dox.
I too like to have a fiddle (I had an original O2 XDA and this site was fantastic for upgrading to later version OS) but so far I can't see any compelling reason not to use the T-Mobile UK custo ROM as shipped.
The only addition I've made is MS Voice with the associated Reg change to allow use with BT headset.
Obviously if there is a superior ROM out there please let us know what is recommended?
Thanks
Nick, check out the wiki which has loads of info about roms, extended roms, radio roms and all that good stuff. Not a huge amount is specific to the Wizard yet, but the information applies all the same.
Has it arrived yet, or are you sitting by the front door like an eager puppy waiting for the postman or newspaper boy (or girl, thank you Stan)
Unfortunately I’m at work today and they would only deliver to my home address
AND they need a signature, so first thing tomorrow morning I’ll be stud outside my local Postal Depot waiting for it to open…..
Oh I hate waiting!!!
Welcome to Vario-ness !
Not coming from a previous PPC platform, you won't suffer the same way i did, by installing all the apps i used on my MDA Compadt some of which may not have been compatable with WM5. That ended up with me having a poor view on the Vario.
Fear not though, i've since seen the error of my ways, thanks to the fine folks on this forum...
I have an XDA II, and would like to update if there is a significant improvement.
I have read from the t-mobile site that the Vario does not have vibrate or voice dialling. Is this true, can Fonix be installed?
The most vital things I use are the outlook contacts, calender, isilo reader and avant go. I guess all standard apps that work on windows mobile 2003 work on 5 right?
How big is the screen?
Thanks for any help.
Well, that just goes to show that T-Mobile don't have a clue, really, doesn't it? I thought you must be mistaken, but sure enough it says that it doesn't support voice dial, and doesn't vibrate either.
It does. On both counts. The vibrate is a lot better than the xda2s in that it almost dislocates a hip when it goes off, and voice dialing works very well. With a quick registry hack, voice dialing works with bluetooth headsets too
Some have found the vario sluggish in comparison to the xda 2; i find it to be comparable to the blue angel (2s) that I had running wm2005 - bear in mind you're reading/writing all files from flash rather than RAM, and that explains the performance.
The screen is 2.8 inches diagonal.
Have any of you got vibrate working on M3000 (Orange)?
I have an M3000 from Orange Switzerland, and cannot get my vibrate to work at all.
Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
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Not to get 'off topic' but T-Mobile Czech republic were about to sell me a MDA Vario and at the last moment I noticed a sticker on the box saying it doesn't support character recognizer or transcriber .. anyone know if this FOR ME huge negative can be reversed so I can handwrite sms as MDA II let me .. (perfect solution for me)
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Both work fine for me on a UK MDA Vario, I don't know why the czech would be different. I must say however that I rarely use them because the slide out keyboard is SO sweet.
On a side note, my brother just picked up the same phone on O2 and personally I like the O2 customisations a lot better than the T-mobile ones. Especially the multiple today screen functionality.
Is it possible to install O2 extended rom and keep t-mobile comms settings? I've only just started to look into this so does anyone with any experience with this have any tips?
Thanks
Dear All,
First of all i wish to thank everyone here for their posts. After carefully reading what you guys have been discussing, I decided to give it a try and had NO problems at all upgrading the ROM. I do have one question though, do any of you guys here have any idea on how to configure 3G and MMS for Maxis here in malaysia.
regards
Go to connection setting. Add a new modem connection, simply put in anything for name and select Cellular line for GPRS, 3G. Enter 'unet' for Access point, 'maxis' for Username and finally 'wap' for password.
To setup the MMS:-
Go to MMS, then MMS configuration. Select the servers tab. Click new then
key in Maxis for Servername, Gateway is 202.75.133.49, Port no. is 8080, Server address is http://172.16.74.100:10021/mmsc, Select the 3G connection that you just created in the upper step. Select 100K for size and finally WAP2.0. Hope this help.
Re: Aftermath of upgrading from DOPOD 900 to the new 02 EXEC
ziadasmat77 said:
Dear All,
First of all i wish to thank everyone here for their posts. After carefully reading what you guys have been discussing, I decided to give it a try and had NO problems at all upgrading the ROM. I do have one question though, do any of you guys here have any idea on how to configure 3G and MMS for Maxis here in malaysia.
regards
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Dear ziadasmat77,
Was there any particular reason why you upgrade your DOPOD 900 to the new O2 EXEC ROM? Sorry for asking this as I'm quite new to DOPOD 900.
Thanking you in advance your for kind reply.
Upgrading
I am a big fan of o2, i was very disappointed when o2 exec was not going to be released in malaysia, so now at least my device performs better and looks cool with the O2 Active
I don't think upgrading to Exec is a wise choice cause by comparing the Dopod900's rom to exec, the different is so minute, in fact it make me wonder if O2 has realized their own mistake and decides to release the original rom(this new release) instead of their problematic customized version.
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ziadasmat77 said:
I am a big fan of o2, i was very disappointed when o2 exec was not going to be released in malaysia, so now at least my device performs better and looks cool with the O2 Active
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Thank you for your reply. I thought it was meant for performance enhancement. In that case I'll stick to the original ROM.
Anyone having problem with their 3G, especially in Penang? I'm using Maxis3G unlimited package. Previous it worked flawlessly but since yesterday, it stop to work with a message like 'cannot locate the site' or 'cannot find the DNS'.
The funny thing is when there is only a GPRS signal, i can surf properly, but once i enter a 3G coverage zone(the icon switch to show 'U'), it stop working and prompt me the above message again.
So are there a lot of people using the dopod 900 in M'sia?
My uncle told me it was about 3888 at the last PC Fair. Don't think too many people will be buying it at that price.
Modem_man,
Im one of those suckers, Could not help it, But i also bought a QTEK 9100 for my wife from singapore, saved 400 RM when compared to DOPOD838
Honestly IHMO, Dopod 900 will get the latest and better rom faster than the rest due to that Dopod is a subsidiary of HTC and as you can see the agressiveness of HTC insisting on Dopod to monopolise Asian market and how O2 loose their market in supplying HTC product in Asia
Rm3888 during pc fair? So sad i missed that.. My hubby bought it as a Christmas present for me at Rm4050 from lowyat with 1G SD and Jabra headset.. really enjoying this great invention... just wish it could be a little bit faster.. i havent tried the tweaks yet for fear that i might mess it up.. as the saying goes, if it aint broke, dont fix it
well....the price of 3888 was without the sd and the headset.
I myself have the Qtek 9000 which I just recently purchased. Both my uncle and I were debating over whether to get the Universal or not and I was finally the one who cave in. I got the Qtek at a pretty good price too. Paid about US$880 for it.
As for the popularity, it seems that a lot of the S'poreans are going towards the route of the O2Exec with Tariffs because it's a lot cheaper than buying it in S'pore. And if Dopod knows wot's good for them, they'll make it look as cool as the O2. Love the black clamshell and blue keyboard.
Concerning the tweaks, I'm slowly beginning to start tweaking the Q to work as best as I can. And maybe even change the ROM to O2's rom at a later time.
Hi,
Could someone with an English Dopod 900 ROM please dump and post to this site?
Regards
Michael
Re: Aftermath of upgrading from DOPOD 900 to the new 02 EXEC
hi dear
can u please help me in getting faster ROM (new ROM) for my JasJar.
regards
After my Xda II died on me, I finally took the plunge and got Dopod 900 as my brithday & Christmas prezzie. Managed to beat it down to RM3,700 w/o SD or bluetooth headset.
i'm looking for solution of having o2 phone plus working on my dopod d810. i need the prefix dialling function. any one out there has the answer? thanks.
it seems like no one got the answer. i have a software called celedial and it turned out to be something i like better than the O2 phoneplus.