Hi, Im thinking of changing from an o2 xda2 to an Orange M500 due to size and a better network coverage where i live,
will i notice much difference between the two models apart from size
cheers
Dazza
Appart from the physical differences they are no different from each other.
You will be able to flash the m500 to use a o2 rom if you miss any applications you currently have (that are provided by o2)
Imp
Hopefully with the smaller size you should find it's more manageable as a phone.
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Hey all...
I'm switching from 02 to Orange now that my contract is up, but i'm planning on using my exisiting XDAII on Orange.
Is it possible to convert O2s interface to Orange version together with all the GPRS settings?
What Rom should i use?
Thanks
Fais
the latest from orange's site would prob be the best
Orange to O2
I am trying to do much the same but the other way around at the moment and currently havign problems getting an M1000 to work with the o2 GPRS web settings, I don't seem to be able to access any pages. Does anyone have any ideas?
I was running with the rom on the orange website with my original M1000 and had problems with not sinking and receiving texts, had the M1000 replaced and had the same problem, so i upgraded MysteryMan ORANGE SE and all is fine now.
In fact it has not crashed once since the upgrade.
I doing some research before purchasing a new PDA and am favouring the O2 XDA mini being released thru Optus retail network.
but am javascript:emoticon(':?')
Confused (easily done I hear you say)
What is the difference between an IMate Jam and 02 XDA 2 Mini as offered to the Australian Market?
If there is a difference, would appreciate some feedback about which is better in this market (ie; features, value, support) and why.
I bought the o2 XDA II Mini on eBay (no contract, outright for AU$945) and the only real difference between it and the JAM that I can tell is the SD card in the box. But, the XDA II Mini costs more than the JAM (JAM appeared on ebay a few days after I bought the Mini for AU$889). If I had the choice, I would have bought the JAM because of the lower price (I have 2x 1Gb SD cards, no need for a $60 256Mb), but they are essencially the same device.
I also purchased a Sandisk SD WiFi (Harris Tech AU$130) and am EXTREMELY pleased with it. My last pda (iPAQ h4350) has builtin wifi/bluetooth and this makes up for it. The XDA II Mini is so small the extra SD card is not a bother (would prefer builtin, but no complaints). If you have WiFi, i recommend you get one.
I am very happy with mine, and it runs great on both Telstra (my plan for calls/sms) and on Optus (prepaid for GPRS only). Optus has better signal though, Telstra sucks. What is the plan (the upfront and monthly costs)?
All I can say is GO FOR IT!!!
I forgot to add, the XDA Mini i received had a dead pixel. I managed to get them to replace it for nothing. I am very happy with the service as well as the device.
G'day,
I'm making the same comparison, and these are the differences I've noticed at the respective product websites ( http://myxda.com/product/XdaIImini/template/Product.vm and http://www.imate.com/index.asp?PageAction=DETAILS_JAM )
O2 Mini bundle list mentions 2 stylii plus the 256MB SD card. Otherwise the bundles for each product are the same.
O2 software:
Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 standard applications: Pocket Outlook, Pocket Excel, Pocket Word, Pocket Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger, ActiveSync, Windows Media Player, Calculator, Terminal Services Clients, Games (Jawbreaker, Solitraire)
Multimedia Album
Picture Editor
Camera (phone and video capture)
ClearVue PDF and PPT
Integrated MMS
Java MIDlet Manager (J2ME)
Photo Contacts
SIM Manager
Wireless Modem
xBackup
Imate software:
MMS
Photo Contact / Caller Id
Photo album
Camera capture utility
Camcorder
40 chords polyphonic ring tones
Support standard MIDI format 0 and 1
Audio format WMA/AMR/MP3 (AAC optional)
SIM Manager
Wireless Modem
xBackup
Whether these two lists are just different ways of saying exactly the same thing I'm not really sure. Perhaps the O2 software list is just more accurate and better written...
Prices etc and a question
Thanks guys for feedback.
Mitchello - Further to your post. From the Optus shop direct - Business Edge One Plan
Price of the phone is $AUD749.00 paid over the contract period of 24 mths at $AUD31.20 per month on top of any plan taken. ie. BEO 33 access fee $33,
flagfall 18.7c, other calls 30.8c.
On data 0.0055c per kilobyte. - No flagfall.
Hope that helps. The cost of the phone is much cheaper than online prices so I guess they must be making money thru the call charges, but these plans are the same for any phone paid off over the contract period..
But why do you have Telstra and optus accounts, one for calls and one for data. Is the price difference worth the drama of two sim cards ??
I dont trust either of them, but we will see.
The only difference between the O2 and the IMATE models is the bundled software on the device. O2 have some extra software included on the Device then IMATE does, but IMATE seem to have a better support base then O2. IMATE tend to release Updates more frequently then O2. But the O2 does come with the 256MB Card aswell.
I have brought the XDA mini and Imate Jam. The only difference is see is the Jam has some Telstra crap and the leather case is different. The O2 case is better if you want to use it.
Otherwise no difference - Jam is cheaper.
Note I believe the Jam has a brighter screen than my O2 mini if that is possible?
Yep when I purchased my O2 mini the chap in the shop said the only real defference was some of the preloaded software/programs. He said the mini had more stuff pre setup for Oz.
I've had mine for a couple of months and just can't get over the potential this thing has...awesome.
So much to learn which is why finding forums like this has been great.
8) marto
get the imate jam (black), that's with 128Mb internal memory, 64 more than the original version of jam or o2 XDA2 mini. do not get optus bundle, get the phone, and get the $30 recharge with $120 credit.
if you average it out, it's only AUD0.001375 per kbyte (40K SLOT)
That's 87Mb for 30 days since credit expire in 30 days.
or just wait for the O2 atom? but it's not a HTC product...
Arrh just looked at the "atom" specs on the O2 site.... if you can wait, then do so... looks sweet.
Wonder what the price will be?
hmm was hard enough talking the wife into the mini so think the Atom is gonna be out of the question for some time
hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb
I had the same dilema and went with the jas jar for several reasons.
1) no o2 commitment (they are, in my personal experince, rubbish in so many ways)
2) cool grey case.
3) imate release rom updates on a regular basis, o2 release one every four thousand years, if your lucky.
4) the jas jar was available sooner
I think you'll find that youll pay the same rate per mb regardless of whether you are using the umts (3g) or edge(2.5g/gprs) networks. you're just liable to use it up faster on umts becaue of the higher data rate! you can force it not to use umts if you want tho'.
Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?
Maybe neckarb is on one of the old BT Cellent Genie tariffs where GPRS may cost almost nothing?
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that i be. and so am interested on o2 for that sole reason, the other problem im having is i wanna pay abouy £400-£500 (either sim free) or preferable including a 12month contract but cannot find the jasjar for that price even though i found the exec for it so again aaah!
neckarb said:
hey guys which should i get cant decide, i dont like the name jasjar but i like the colour.
also is there a way of swapping between 3G and GPRS if i want to reguardless of whether your in a 3G area or not because i get very cheep gprs and might wanna use it even if im in a 3G area. thanks
Neckarb
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Yes you can force the Universal into GSM mode under settings/phone/Band...There you select GSM instead of 'Auto' under 'Select your network'. Apparently it saves you loads of battery power too as UMTS is power hungry.
Regards
cheers for that mate, can the xda exec be reflashed with an imate rom as im a member of club imate and would love to get the rom updates.
asking for problems
From what i have read from other o2 devices with Imate roms, its is problematic.
get an universal rom first, that way if the imate rom gives your grief, the change back is less trouble.
Please post your findings, it would be interesting.
Can anyone else clarify this? I was intending to get the O2 XDA Exec, but with such a new device and new OS, it's bound to need a ROM upgrade or two. I was looking on the O2 site for ROM upgrades to any of their other XDA devices but couldn't find any which is not a good sign.
My understanding is that i-mate ROM updates will not work on the O2 XDA Exec, in which case I reckon the money saved on an Exec against a Jasjar will not be worth it.
They should be the same hardware, so you could get the slick looking XDA Exec and put the imate ROM on.
it would be great if i could, becuase i found the xda exec £150 cheeper than the jasjar but i love my imate rom updates, has anyone sucsessfully flashed the xda exec or mda pro with the imate jasjar roms?
About to buy a Universal .. currently with Orange ..but.. are there any strong reasons for moving to O2? Obviously hardware is the same, but is running the exec in corporate mode going to be significantly different to Orange?
Thanks!
just prefer the black xda exec, and i got a better free minutes deal with O2 (500mins free xnetwork)
In a post somewhere on this forum someone asked a question about the M5000 and installing software that suggested to me that Orange locks their machines to stop you installing unapproved (unsigned?) 3rd-party software.
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, of course :roll: but if it's true then that would be one major reason to steer clear of the M5000 IMHO. :shock: This user's post seemed to imply that Orange have sold other handsets with the same lock applied, so if you're already with Orange then you may know the answer to this question already.
my experience with orange is this....
been with them for a couple years, had a spv e200 then a m1000. i switched to o2 last week because :-
1) had terrible signal at home
2) the m5000 is bloody expensive on orange, paid 90 quid for the exec on o2 business tarrif, 35 quid pm
just my 2 cents
interesting about locking it from 3rd party software .. only ever had standard phones through orange so not come across this before .. currently got an ipaq and want the same freedom to install what I want!
The thing I do like about orange is their customer service .. has always impressed me, and they have always given me good tariffs to keep me with them..
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
currently with am orange, upgraded from the m1000 to m5000
they give 1000mb data a month for the next tree months and 30 video calls
I paid nothing for my upgrade and am on a £25.00 amonth tariff.
I currently have tomtom 5.1, battary pack pro, pocketweather, tcpmp player
audio recorder, adobe reader, etc
all installed with no problems apart from tomtom 5.1 which involved some twicking.
i have installed all kinds of games for testing and %90 pesent of them worked ok.
i use my pda 80% of the time for Live emails, podcast stuff, downloaded tv episode watching and 20% making calls.
:wink:
toucam said:
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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I have the M5000 - I really want to upgrade my ROM, or at least do something that will speed up my Universal! It has dog-slow response rendering it useless for 50% of the time.
Surely there can't be any software that prevents ROM upgraded? The whole point of a ROM upgrade is that software is wiped. And unless there's any weird SIM interaction, this sounds impossible.
Anyway, I'm slightly worried about doing it, as it would void Orange warranty, and there's no Orange ROM available to put it back on if it goes wrong!
Anyone with more info on the M5000 - come forward, it would be great to hear from you!
TIA
Mat
Disable the orange plugin from the today screen, and also error reporting (if not already)
The orange plugin slows it down, and with it diabled, my m5000 is marvellous!
That sounds good - if Orange only use a plugin, is nice and easy to disable. Sounds better than having to install the O2 EXEC into corporate mode??
Thanks
I'm getting the same problem as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59356&highlight=mms+picture
Only difference is I'm in UK & on O2 network. I used to have a O2 Mini S (Wizard) & had no such problems. It seems there must be a registry entry to get the picture to recieved or display in the correct size. Does anyone know?
the same problem with my imate PPC after upgrading to WM5
waiting for the problem to be solved