O2 Software: Did You Delete Any? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

I will be recieving my Exec from O2 this week and realize there will be some software on it that I will not utilize like Clearvue PDF Viewer, Powerpoint, Excell...is it easy enough to take these programs off....and I understand there is a choice of configuration for the individual or corporate user?......also some cast doubt on the benefits of O2 Active Synch?.....
I intend to install Skype and software to allow compressed movies to be watched...not sure if anyone has any experience of these?

I got mine recently and first I installed it as o2 intended, but I later did a hard reset and noticed that you can install it without the o2 stuff so I did that and it works alot better for me (I use spb pocket plus). I didn't use the O2 cd fro my active sync but instead downloaded the latest from the Microsoft web site and that worked fine.
Sorry don't know how to remove Powerpoint etc. There are some posts on this forum about unlocking the ROM but that will only allow you to alter what gets installed by o2.
Software I use:
SPB Pocket Plus
Pocket Informant
SPB Weather
Mobipocket
eWallet
1-Calc

Thanks, got my O2 Exec today and did a basic install only.
I will primarily be using this as a LAN access point at home and would want to synch it up to my laptop for the transfer of files purposes.
I also would want to utilise wi-fi capability 'on the go'.
I am hoping that by choosing not to install O2 Active that this would not be detrimental in any way? Its just some people seem to find O2 Active more of a pain than a pleasure?

All that sort of stuff is fine without o2 active. As far as I can see the only stuff you get with o2 active is a load of links to news and sport sites etc, plus links to parts of the system settings and functions (like phone settings and make a video call) all doable without the active interface. The only bit of functionality that I did spot that I don't get with the basic install is a profiles program that allowed me to set up times for the phone, wan etc to be off or on together with power settings.
As I said I had so much trouble with installing my software that I did not use the o2 active interface for very long. It should perhaps be noted that the people on this discussion board will have a tendancy to customise their pocket pc quite heavily and will, in the general course of things, rather not have software imposed, quite reasonably. However this may not suit you, but it sounds like it probably does.
Cheers

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The Ultimate Universal Setup...

Well having been a member of this forum now for a few months I have learned many valuable things. Extended Roms... new software... accessories... flashing... and the list goes on and on... I thank you all for the education. That being said the time has come to choose the Ultimate setup and flash/setup this device one last time (for a while anyway so I wanted to poll the community and see what others are running on their Universals...
1. What Carrier/Radio Version (QTEK, IMATE, O2, TMOBILE etc...)
2. What's in the Extended Rom...
3. What reg hacks...
4. What software is installed on the device... (today plugins etc...)
5. What software is installed on the SD Card...
If you all like I will post the results in a report and we can see what people are really using on their devices.
Again... I want to thank everybody on the forum who so freely shares his information and hard work. Let's keep donating to this site and keep it humming along.
Cyberslinger
for starters
Yeah this forum is great! From what I've picked up here, I decided to put smallmenu, total commander, and gsplayer in my Extended ROM.
I also like using OzVGA and the Opera browser.
I use Pocket Informant for the PIM stuff, and e-wallet for the more confidential stuff.
I'm in the medical field, and I like the Skyscape medical references.
I also have the core media player and pocket artist. Almost forgot, I use MS Voice Command with my bluetooth headset.
Besides the programs in Extended ROM, pretty much everything else except Voice Command is installed to the SD card.
For games, I mostly play bubble breaker, but I have Doom, Snails, Flux Challenge, and tried the demo for sealball. The Universal is not a great gaming machine IMO, but generally I am VERY happy with my setup.
cyberslinger said:
1. What Carrier/Radio Version (QTEK, IMATE, O2, TMOBILE etc...)
2. What's in the Extended Rom...
3. What reg hacks...
4. What software is installed on the device... (today plugins etc...)
5. What software is installed on the SD Card...
Cyberslinger
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1) DOPOD900
2) Didnt check anymore
3) Just the Ringer hack
4) Resco Explorer/Today Plug In, VJSMS, Microsoft Reader, Games (Bookworm,Zuma), Memmaid, TCPMP, GSPPocketPlus
5) SPB Package Trial (nearing the end of trial period), NoviiRemote,
Hope this helps your poll...
1. What Carrier/Radio Version (QTEK, IMATE, O2, TMOBILE etc...)
2. What's in the Extended Rom...
3. What reg hacks...
4. What software is installed on the device... (today plugins etc...)
5. What software is installed on the SD Card...
1. Imate, standard rom available on the site
2. Dont care, I dont install any of it except the communication carrier (telstra) and the bluetooth patch. This gives me a 31 meg startup RAM excluding today and additional startups installed by choice.
3. Limited, MSVC hack for blue tooth (I have done lots in the past, but no real impact that I found beneficial so didnt bother on the last hard reset last week).
4. SPB Pocket Plus (beta 3.1), SPB Weather, SPB Diary, SPB Backup (beta 1.0), Resco Explorer/ftp/reg, MSVC, KSE True Fax
5. Total Commander, Oxios, FeederReeder, TCPMP, Resco Audio, Resco Radio, Resco Photos, Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Desktop (Wisbar is really just play and fun, I would never load today screen configurations from an SD card), Blue Point Earth and Blue Point World Info, Pocket RAR, Microsoft E Reader, Omega One 1 Calc, and Paint. Only game installed Resco Guardians.
Using the SPB backup beta, when I did a hard reset, I did a perfect backup using SPB for all device software with all my tweaks and adjustments, passwords, settings, configurations, wifi and bluetooth settings and passwords, hit most of my sites and put in my user names and passwords and auto login.
Now, when I restore, everything is perfect. I also then did a second with all my perfect apps installed to the SD card, and registered them all and setup all those tweaks, and did another backup. I now have my "virgin" machine, and my "custom" machine.
I also extracted all of the cab files for all of the software, including the entire extended rom and copied them to my SD card for easier and quicker installation and access without needing activesync.
I can now do a full hard reset and configure in about 5 minutes. Startup RAM is now 28meg, but with SPB PP, Weather, and Diary is about 22meg runs down to 12 meg then soft reset. Screen rotation first time is 3 seconds, then sub 1 second on subsequent rotations depending on the next reset.
So overall, and in essence, I am totally f..kin ecstatic with my setup (taken about 10 attempts to get to this)
great post...
Very Informative Simon. I believe that you have a great system for preserving your setup. I will defintely be incorporating it into my ultimate setup.
Good stuff here guys.. keep it coming.
Cyb

Finally U R in friendship with Universal??? :( Not me

Is there anybody who can't find his/her Universal veeeeryyyy veerryyyyy sloooow????
If yes, which 3rd party softwares installed?
I'm really thinking about selling it.
I really love VGA, 3G, and other things, but I feel I have 286 PC with a MacG5 hardware chances.
If I want my VGA PDA to run well, I should not install most of appications written nowadays.
I'm really really sad.
What to do?
Who is the hero who finds his toy acceptable?
And HHHHOOOOOWWWWW????
I'm not an amateur - very very not -, but I'd like to use the abilities of the Universal, but it seems, it can't give me its capabilities. I have to chose which app I want very well and which not.
HEEEEEEEELP!!!
SOMEBODYYYYY!!!!
As I said already in other thread, my Exec is running very fast, screen orientation change is very quick, I have no delay in answering phone calls, always over 21-22 Mb memory and it doesn't freeze at all.
I soft reset it every 4-5 days.
Applications that I have now installed (all of them in phone memory) after trying many others are:
- MohairSofa Calendar+ Today PlugIn
- Insignia Solutions JeodeRuntime
- Vijay555 VJOkButt
- Softick Card Export II
- Softatics Corporation xConverter Pro ( great software!!!!)
- Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
- Handmark Monopoly
- Kasuei Hitchhiker
- Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
- TCPMP The Core Pocket Media Player
- PHM Registry Editor
- GreenSoftware GSFinder+
Everything is running absolutely flawless.
I have UMTS connection avaliable 95% of the times, I'm using Orange UK 3G Sim
My radio is the 1.04 version and I see absolutely no reason for update.
I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed.
Thanx the answer.
"I had many problems before, which seemed to dissapear after a careful selection of software installed." - You wrote
Yes, you are right, but I don't want to be careful to select which software I can use.
I WANT TO USE ALL THE SOFTWARES I USED WITH MY O2 XDAIIi !!!
Why is it a big wish?
It is the same if you buy a laptop, and you can use just WindowsXP with Opera Browser, a 3rd party calculator and some ActiveX plugin.
If this device can use just these few apps without freezing or crashing and with acceptable speed, then this is just ten pence a schilling. ( ) (I just learned this in english)
In this case I'd rather buy a stable, fast and old Nokia phone.
OK. I'm trying to write what I'm using:
With the Storage:
- SBSH iLauncher 2.2
- SBSH Pocket Breeze 5
- Marsware WeatherPanel
- AlarmToday
- DKtoday
- PocketZenphone
- WisbarAdvance2
- Wisbar Desktop
- Dinarsoft HandyMenu
- Dinarsoft MemMaid
- Double Launcher
- Macromedia FlashPlayer
- Spb GPRSmonitor
- XCPUscalar
- PDAmill Topkey
- RescoExplorer
- Novosec SmartFilter
- Sunnysoft BackupManager
- PhatWare PhatPad
- Microsoft VB Runtimes for PPC
- RescoViewer
On Storage Card:
- Resco PocketRadio
- MobiMate WorldMate 2006 professional
- SKtools
- OmegaOne 1-Calc
- Astro WinCE
- PocketMusic
- Cash Organizer 05
- ListPro
- Bryht FlashPlayer
- Opera
- TomTom Navigator 5
- Aeromap VR3
- CheckNotifications
- Tweaks2k2
- PocketMechanic
- System Monitor Pro
- eWallet
- VITO MobileDownloader
- VITO SoundExplorer
- WiFiFoFum
- OutlookCleaner
- PocketEarth
- PocketWorldInfo
- SpbImageer
- XnView Pocket
- PocketArtist
.........and many more with a lot of games in 2GB SD
I know this is not a small list but I used all of these on my 2020i without any problem. I used PocketInformant too but I found it really slow on Universal so I decided not to install it.
Maybe You have a question: then why do not use 2020i?
Simple answer: I really hate HTC showing me what is a VGA PDA with 3G.
That is why. I fuc*ing love it and I feel I cannot live without VGA and 3G.
So, if somebody has some experience in upper softs and knows errors or bugs with using them on Universal, please write it to me.
Sorry, but I will never believe that you need and are using all of these applications. And this is definitely the list to slow down your universal.
I like to keep my PC and Pocket PC clean and install only what I need, not what I MAY USE ONE DAY. Clutter is not good in any situation!
And so far it works for me.
And another thing is that many of the applications you have installed are enormous in size: Pocket Breeze, SPB Pocket Plus, Wisbar Advance, MobiMate World Mate Pro,Wisbar Desktop. And there is plenty applications doing the same things which are not only many times smaller in size, faster, and free. Like for example Pocket Breeze and Calendar+ or SPB Pocket Plus and VJOKbutt and VJTrayLaunch.
And don't you think that you sound silly and childish when you say that because you don't want uninstall few of these applications you will stop yourself from using all of them and buy a Nokia. :lol: Go for it, in the meantime I will enjoy using my fast, reliable Exec with all the applications I need...
In one part you have right in other part you don't have.
If you believe or not I'm using almost all of these applications almost every day.
Maybe I can find some which I really don't need but which you wrote in your slowapps-list I really love and if these are forbidden softs with a PDA I'm not sure I'd like to use them.
BUT!!!!
I've been using PDA-phones for years!!!!
I have not any problems with speed and stability before.
I used all of these applications.
WHY IS IT PROBLEM FOR THE NEWEST AND MOST EQUIPPED PDA??????
I'm not able to accept this.
(Spb PocketPlus I'm not using, I found it slower than other slow applications)
Tuningszocske said:
I'm not able to accept this.
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Is that a threat? :wink: :lol:
Good night/morning...Enjoy your new Nokia :lol:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
been smoking something? :twisted:
Frankly I understand your angst and kind of feel cheated myself after spending so much money on the Exec. Right now I am down to barebones in terms of the s/w that I have installed on it and inspite of that, it is really slow. One realises how slow the Exec is after having used the XDAII which was blazing fast with at least 3 times more s/w installed. I still have the XDA II and just checked it again... boy it is FAST!
Understandably, I too am dissapointed with this device.
Cheers, Vikas.
Tuningszocske said:
Yes, this is a threat.
Real problem is I'm in a special relationship with my Universal: Hate&Love.
I can't live with and without it.
Maybe I should find a specialist?
Is it a psychic problem now? :roll:
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@Tuningszocske
Same here. love and hate.
With my Nokia 9500 I never worried about how much s/w I installed (especailly with 80mb of user storage) but with my Exec I now only use Agenda Fusion, MS Reader (which is buggy), Opera & Mobireader.
Personally I don't think the problem is from the device itself, but the software. WM5 seems to run a lot slower than 2003SE, and even with faster CPUs and more memory, it's kinda like trying to run Windows XP on a Pentium 500... In other words, we'll need to wait for the hardware to mature and specs to be much more advanced to run WM5 at full speed. The hardware manufacturers also have to learn to use the new functions of the new OS, and learn to work around its quirks, but this can be solved by firmware updates.
So yeah, the Universal is great, as long as you keep things relatively simple with it.
Answering your question is a bit of a personal preference. But for me, I am very happy with my EXEC. This is my first Pocket PC coming from a TH55/E1 Palm OS. Anyone who owned a TH55 knows it only can run applications at 144 MHz, with tons of applications installed it was very slow in opening applicaions, but once opened it runs smoothly. So for me, coming from a slow device to my EXEC is like a blessing. PLUS, as mentioned above, I only install applications that I really use and tend not to clutter my 2GB SD card which I use mostly for keeping my MP3s and Movies. I have no complaints so far. I never had any of the problems described in some threads like being slow, delayed rings, bluetooth problems, etc...
more than happy with it, only a few gripes, but that is towards the 3rd party applications with exception of the lack of a backup function, in general it is fast enough, considering it is a pda phone.
for speed, I just whip out my Sony VAIO laptop not as portable nor as light, but each has there uses
this however looks very interesting
http://www.dualcor.com/photos.php
Blue Angel and V3i
Hi all,
Yes - despite having an SPV for over a year (Palm os Treo 600 before that), I must say I'm still forced to draw one conclusion:
Bloated OS on an underpowered device.
I had hoped that after the CE days they would have sorted this out, but had so many problems with my BA being slow and hanging (how cool is it to say "sorry, my ohone just crashed?!"), I did look at the M5000 (wizzard).
I may be wrong on this but I believe the main problems with the BA - namely battery life, memory and cpu speed - weren't upgraded for the wizzard. And, unfortunately, I had to decide that the Wizard is just TOO BIG.
IS it me, but does anyone actually NEED the h/wkeyboard?
So, am going on with a barebones BA, and have bought a motorola V31 as a "propr phone"! Hopefully when i come to replac my phone in 12 months time, things will have got much faster and better in PPC phones....
Yes, I know they can do some very cool things, but I really didnt find the BA a very reliable phone.
Perhaps it's too cumbersome for a phone, and too small for a laptop?
Right idea - keep going - lets see where we are in a year!!
man how people complain...
dont like it, sell it, simple
i dont have a hate relationship at all, i just love it all the way...
i use lots, but again selective, even my existing configurations can make the device run slow, so i just dont use them for a while and switch them back on when I want to change it.
I have the perfect, fast efficient machine, and if I want to make it look pretty, make it do more functions simultaneously, I accept that it will slow down. Try loading any computer up with 60% - 80% drain on its available ram and its gonna slow down.
The issues are nearly all with the third party applications, the bare bones machine with minimal extended rom installs means I also dont miss a call, rings on the second ring, screen rotation the first time is sub 2 seconds, and subsequently sub 1 second.
I love the bluetooth, keyboard, vga, 3 g, I also like the clam close to protect my screen so that I dont need a case, it just fits in the pocket if I am not wearing tight jeans....
Device is SPB PP (beta), SPB Diary, SPB Weather, SPB Backup (Beta), Resco Explorer, M$VC, KSE True Fax
Card... TCPMP, Resco Audio, Resco Radio, Resco Pictures, Wizbar 2 and Desktop (to play not use), 1 Calc, MS Reader, Bluepoint world and earth, and games
Yes you have to be choosy on your apps, but these are the software developers fault for not correctly utilising and keeping upto date with the change in technology, the permanent storage rather than pure RAM, and thus calling permanent storage information into RAM whn it is in storage.
We wanted permanent storage, but the developers have written applications for the the 2003/SE system and "adapted" to the WM2005 system, and it isnt that adaptable.
They must catch up , they will catch up, but dont whinge about your phone, it works, it works well, the apps are the are that screw it up.
Again, dont like it, sell it, stop whinging, some of you guys sound worse that my missus....
This is not a whinge forum, it is a help and contribute forum to share and develop knowledge.
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
jah said:
@simon_darley, okay a balancing view. But lets not promote the Universal as being fault free because this is not true: SMS causing freezing, delayed call alert and loss of data after soft reset. Not making this up, I have suffered these problems.
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Hello,
I have a QTEK 9000 and:
1. SMS never froze
2. Call Alert always rings in my phone mid-first-ring (i use a 50k mp3)
3. data loss after soft? not sure what this is about
What ROM are you using BTW? Just curious.
@Jorgee, suggest you have a quick look at this forum. There are lots of threads about the problems I mentioned. Regarding the call alert, I have now installed the new Radio ROM and there are significant improvements for finding a weak signal and call alert is also much better. The SMS freez was with my JJ which I have now sold. The loss of data - again the architecture of the Universal does mean this can happen. If RAM data is not written to ROM because of a fault. Again lots of posts on this here at this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...s=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sms+freez&start=0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34724&highlight=sms+freez

PPC to Desktop PC - Internet Remote Access (not Active Sync)

Here are some tools to get access from my mobile PPC to my desktop or laptop at home.
http://www.avvenu.com./index.html
This one is FREE for basic service. That sounds good already.
http://www.1-view.com/
This one is taylor made for imate, I have an Imate Jas Jar should I go with the imate line, but $89 USD, plus some limations on file size 15 MB in FAQ.
http://www.z2software.com/Remote2PC.htm
Cost around $37. works with WM5, heaps of awards, and seams the best choice.
Each have different limitations on how many PC you can link to, etc.
Any body have any other recommendations or shend light on which is the BEST HANDS DOWN !
Please advise.
Avvenu is really good and free... In addition logmein can be used which is a decent piece of software IMO
Why not use terminal services that comes with your PPC? I use it all the time and it works perfectly. You can even get a VGA version of the client on these forums.

M3100 - starting to get annoyed with this thing

Is anyone else having issues installing software onto the phone?
I have tried to push Agile Messenger (as no MSN) and Spb PocketPlus onto the device but hit issues:-
If I execute from the laptop, as I used to do with the M2000, it does not seem to push the files into the phone - looks like it is but they do not appear anywhere.
If I drop the files onto the phone and try to run them from the phone it seems to have a default message saying "....is not a valid Pocket PC application", even though they clearly are, and stops considering even trying to open them.
Am I doing something wrong, or can anyone offer advice before I lob this thing in the bin? Getting very annoyed.
Plus it has awful icons down the side and looks less like a Pocket PC and more the girlfriend's Samsung - I hate Orange. How do I get rid of these?
Please help - my blood pressure is going through the roof :lol:
Have you downloaded Agile Messenger for WM5 - beta. If not there is a huge thread on it
Hiya,
Yes I have tried that and it tells me that this is not a valid Pocket PC app.
Just spoken to Orange Level 2 tech support - they are not providing direct support for the phone other than it works with the SIM card and can get to Orange World - I need to speak to Microsoft apparently
It's a Windows executable you run it on your PC :roll:
The icons down the side are a today plugin. You should be able to untick the orange homescreen plugin.
Ok - I'm happier now.
Embarrassed to say that I had not realised I needed to reset the phone after launching apps. On the Blue Angel it did it as it transferred. With my TyTn it seems to need to restart before things take action.
Cheers guys, thanks a lot.

eliminate unused soft from Vario II? AKA tame the WM5 beast

I just got this little monster a few day ago and I have been trying to make it lighter (software side). I have read many posts about the bloated WM5 and how a Vario I or even a WM2003 Pocket PC/Smartphone outperforms the Vario II (TyTn) in many tasks. First I was all for the "make the Today screen full of useful stuff", but I realized the mistake of doing that... your device crawls almost to a stop. So now I am going for the simplicity aproach, leave all the functionality in the start menu.
First things first... what software or files can be safely deleted or uninstaled from the device? (Including Windows folder). for example I will never use PowerPoint mobile, Excel mobile and I dont "push" any email. I don't even have Outlook in my computer (too many risks and the mobile does not recognize that I use Thurderbird). I would also prefer if the mobile did not start up Activesync by itself, but only after I connected it to the computer. In a final note, this are the contents of my startup directory:
elatepushservice
poutlook
sddaemon
services
Do I need all those files? What is poutlook and elatepushservice?
Any tips to make the mobile faster in any way?

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