Has anyone tried using the XDA Exec as an internet radio using Realplayer to stream internet radio via a WiFi internet connection and outputting to a stereo system via Bluetooth using A2DP?
I doubt it seeing as the current bluetooth stack wont support a2dp without an upgrade, I suppose you could use a wire from your headphones port to your hifi though !!!!! but then I cant get the current version of real player to work over wifi either, so maybe your stuck with streamed windows media !! on the up shot I managed to get the BBC's Click on line video progream to stream in Hi quality over wifi to Win medi player yesterday, that was pretty cool (and in stereo too)
Thanks for sharing your experience of trying this. Unfortunately, to be of any use to me I need it to work with Realplayer in order to get BBC radio (I'm not in the UK at the moment so rely on the internet to get BBC radio). I wonder what the problem is?
I'm assuming that A2DP support will become available in due course but in the meantime I'd be content to use the headphone socket as it isn't going to be exactly hi-fi anyway.
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I want to know if it is possible to forward all Pc audio over bluetooth to the phone?
Basically I want to use the phone as a wireless audio link so I can walk around the house with access to my music on the pc. Also in the future, may want to set up the carpc in the same way.
Any info on this? The forum/google search picks up phone->other devices... never pc->phone.
Thanks
"to walk around the house...."
This may not be possible... unless I've gotten hold of completely the wrong end of the stick (which I hope I have), the range of the bluetooth on the pda is EXTREMELY short.. I understand that when streaming to bt headphones people are happy about getting a 50 cm range.
EDIT... actually the bluetooth on the BA is supposed to be a class 2 device which according to specs is supposed to have a 5-10 m range... so I ammend my above statement by saying I'm not really sure.
Can someone confirm either way please.
Thx.
Pardon me, my 'house' is a 1 bedroom tiny apt. A 5-10 m range would more than suffice.
I've heard of bluetooth wireless headphones from logitech... these have a 33 ft range
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4140375
spybld said:
Pardon me, my 'house' is a 1 bedroom tiny apt. A 5-10 m range would more than suffice.
I've heard of bluetooth wireless headphones from logitech... these have a 33 ft range
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4140375
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As long as it's line of sight you should have no problems at all.. as for the range of the headphones.. it all comes down to the range of the pda.. which isn't very good. It turns out that the range of a bt network is better.. so the problem seems to lie with the audio gateway stacks. (which is a big problem)
I don't think you'll be able to do it without a lot of work, (or maybe some 3rd party software) The first approach would be to use the bluetooth headset profile. But neither your phone or your pc has a headset profile. They proably both have audio gateways that can "support bluetooth headset profile" That is, they both want to play the role of the computer, and neither can play the role of the headset. Also, the audio would be narrow band and mono so it wouldn't sound that great.
You would want to have the advance audio distribution bluetooth profile. In order for it to work, one device would have to be the audio source and the other the audio sink. I suspect that neither supports this profile, but perhaps they do. Some newer phones do support it, and many usb dongles for PC's come with profile drivers, but even if you have both I suspect that both will be set up to to be the audio source. (windows before XP service pack 1 didn't support bluetooth at all)
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I don't think you'll be able to do it without a lot of work, (or maybe some 3rd party software) The first approach would be to use the bluetooth headset profile. But neither your phone or your pc has a headset profile. They proably both have audio gateways that can "support bluetooth headset profile" That is, they both want to play the role of the computer, and neither can play the role of the headset. Also, the audio would be narrow band and mono so it wouldn't sound that great.
You would want to have the advance audio distribution bluetooth profile. In order for it to work, one device would have to be the audio source and the other the audio sink. I suspect that neither supports this profile, but perhaps they do. Some newer phones do support it, and many usb dongles for PC's come with profile drivers, but even if you have both I suspect that both will be set up to to be the audio source. (windows before XP service pack 1 didn't support bluetooth at all)
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Thanks I was worried about that... It doesn't seem that anyone has thought of this way of using BT and I doubt that there is software to do it out there. I may fiddle around with it later on... but maybe one of those bt headsets would be just fine!
-spy
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Thanks I was worried about that... It doesn't seem that anyone has thought of this way of using BT and I doubt that there is software to do it out there. I may fiddle around with it later on... but maybe one of those bt headsets would be just fine!
-spy
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Maybe it is not the solution you are looking for, but why don't you consider using WiFi instead. It's easier to configure, better sound quality, and you can setup as Ad-Hoc if you do not use WiFi AP.
I am doing this in the house and the media pc in my car. It works out just great.
Thanks I'm looking into it...
Any recommendations on cheap but good wifi cards?
Any wifi card from Circuit City / Best Buy will do. All you do is set up an ad-hoc network, install Orb to your PC and you'll be able to browse your media collection on your phone while you walk around. If you're just gonna be in your house/apartment and wanna stream music to your stereo bluetooth headphones, you could just pick up the Motorola DC800 which I've been raving about since day one. I can stream music from my laptop to my headphones and it sounds great no matter what floor of my house I'm in.. the only downside is that I have to create a playlist before I leave my laptop because you can't control what you listen to from the headphones unless you use your phone and Pocket Player with the WM plugin. Hope that helps!
the closest solution i can find
spybld said:
I want to know if it is possible to forward all Pc audio over bluetooth to the phone?
Basically I want to use the phone as a wireless audio link so I can walk around the house with access to my music on the pc. Also in the future, may want to set up the carpc in the same way.
Any info on this? The forum/google search picks up phone->other devices... never pc->phone.
Thanks
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http://forum.videohelp.com/topic259354.html
i installed vlc 0.8.6c, set it up to stream my desktop's audio output
then on my elf, i use my music player(TCPMP) to load the url
through wifi (got ~10s lag/delay ba, or rather 20-25sec)
so for bluetooth, once u can setup ur handphone to ping ur desktop
the rest will be the same
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
here are some experiments on players and mms/http stream
Code:
[I]Server Player Lag/Delay Protocol[/I]
VLC 0.8.6c WMP10 Mobile Failed
VLC 0.8.6c TCPMP 20-25 s mms://ip:port, http://ip:port
VLC 0.8.6c vlc-0.8.4-wince 7-9 s mms://ip:port
VLC 0.8.6c [B]vlc-0.8.4-wince 4-6 s http://ip:port[/B]
WME9 WMP10 Mobile 9-15 s http://ip:port/*
WME9 TCPMP 15-20 s http://ip:port
WME9 vlc-0.8.4-wince Failed
i not able to get these to work: MortPlayer/GSPlayer/WinVibePro/Conduits Pocket Player
i got vlc-0.8.4-wince http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/wince/vlc-0.8.4-test1-20051012-0130-wince.zip from http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/wince/
Cross-posted at http://www.astahost.com/index.php?showtopic=15806&mode=linear#entry110461
Update on 2007 Sep 8: added test result for Windows Media Encoder 9.
First Post, Hi to all.
Hardware:
I have just purchased an SPV M3100 (HTC TyTn) and I think it's great I want to use it to play music from my MP3 collection which is shared over the LAN and output the music to my new bluetooth A2DP speakers (Accoustic Energy)
Software:
The PDA is running WM5. I have installed V-mobile Software Network Browser which adds a network folder to the system and allows me to map my Computers MP3 shared folder as a network drive on the phone (This works a treat).
I am using CorePlayer as my media player as this is the best one I've found, it plays all my music and also my divx/xvid movies.
Problem:
I can play music straight over the network using coreplayer fine from the phone (WIFI & BT both turned on), but when I connect the BT speakers I get stuttering. Occasionally it seems to work fine, but most of the time the music is really broken up.
I can play music straight off the phone and send to the BT speakers and it works great, but only if WIFI is turned off.
It seems that the phone is maybe struggling to run WIFI & A2DP simultaneously, which is a little bit annoying.
Plea For Help:
Is there ANYONE who has tried to do this on ANY PDA? If there is, was it successful or are you having similar stuttering probs?
PS. I have tried the A2DP bitpool reg hacks with no luck, and even tried the 802.11g wifi hack in case it was a wifi bandwidth problem.
If Anyone can offer any suggestions or advice I would be most greatful.
//not sure if I posted this in the correct thread, it might be better suited to accessories?
This may be off topic for the forum, but I'm wondering if I could throw some ideas around in the hopes that perhaps someone from here has done something similar and could offer suggestions.
I've got this old IBM thinkpad attached to my stereo system which I use as a streaming media computer for my music (obsolete laptop, but good for playing internet streams or media files on my home network over the stereo).
I very often attach my pocket pc (HTC Titan) as my music player to the stereo as well, usually using a portable a2dp receiver with a 3.5" port (i.tech r35, to be exact) to stream music wirelessly.
Problem with this is that I constantly need to charge the r35 adapter because it won't charge the battery while playing music (poor design choice).
The obvious solution, since my laptop is always hooked up anyway, would be to add a bluetooth dongle to the laptop and use it at a receiver.
I tried this, but sadly WinXP does not support the A2DP profile in its native stack, and I don't have a valid license for any of the third party ones (broadcomm, Bluesoleil, etc).
Is there a simple way to support a2dp stream receiving from this laptop? An open-source bluetooth stack perhaps?
The truth is, I don't really need *windows* on there for what I use it for, I would be open to installing a linux distro if it had a2dp support built in (and wasn't too complicated to install and use... I've got very limited linux experience).
What do you guys think?
nobody has any pointers?
Wouldnt it be easier to do via wifi? Better range and higher quality than A2DP too?
i've used my wizard to stream to my laptop before with just the native bluetooth stack on the laptop
i'm sure you could just buy a bluetooth dongle and sync it via A2DP that way
Download bluesoleil, it has an A2DP server you can use to send audio from PPC to the laptop.
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Wouldnt it be easier to do via wifi? Better range and higher quality than A2DP too?
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Um... I'm not sure that you understood the concept here. First of all, when properly configured, a2dp is virtually indistinguishable to wired speakers when dealing with mp3 files (you lose a slight amount since it IS compressing the data, but not any more than a well encoded mp3). Second, range isn't an issue since I plan to control the music from the room I'm in (why would u want to play the music in a room far enough away that u can't hear it?).
Third, unless I haven't heard of a new Wifi audio protocol, I think what you're talking about is TOTALLY different. I stream music to my stereo from networked computers all the time, but thats not what I'm talking about here.
I use my ppc as my personal music player, and sometimes I want my playlist on the ppc to come out of the stereo system in my house. A2dp lets u do that by simply BEING IN THE SAME ROOM AS IT. I frankly don't see how WiFi would be an acceptable alternative to this since there is no audio transport support built in- its designed mostly for just networking.
I'd love to be proved wrong, so please share with me if I'm missing something here, but how would Wifi be better?
thenext1, I actually have bluesoleil, but its not registered to my device so its stuck on a 5mb trial version (5mb of info and it stops). I was thinking of something free / open source, which is why I thought about a linux option. if there is a free windows stack for A2dp, I'd love to try it...
This looks intersting I am about to try this bluesolei
What I'm looking to do is actually route calls to my laptop mic and speakers when my phone is docked in the cradle...
I'm thinking since this is the same principle that it can be accomplished?
Let me know if anyone has done this before...
it is kind of "off-topic" but i think it was relavent to post here because it deals with the same principles
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This looks intersting I am about to try this bluesolei
What I'm looking to do is actually route calls to my laptop mic and speakers when my phone is docked in the cradle...
I'm thinking since this is the same principle that it can be accomplished?
Let me know if anyone has done this before...
it is kind of "off-topic" but i think it was relavent to post here because it deals with the same principles
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It's not the same principle, A2DP is for hi-quality audio, you are trying to make the handsfree profile work.... It should work, since bluesoleil can also do that
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Um... I'm not sure that you understood the concept here. First of all, when properly configured, a2dp is virtually indistinguishable to wired speakers when dealing with mp3 files (you lose a slight amount since it IS compressing the data, but not any more than a well encoded mp3). Second, range isn't an issue since I plan to control the music from the room I'm in (why would u want to play the music in a room far enough away that u can't hear it?).
Third, unless I haven't heard of a new Wifi audio protocol, I think what you're talking about is TOTALLY different. I stream music to my stereo from networked computers all the time, but thats not what I'm talking about here.
I use my ppc as my personal music player, and sometimes I want my playlist on the ppc to come out of the stereo system in my house. A2dp lets u do that by simply BEING IN THE SAME ROOM AS IT. I frankly don't see how WiFi would be an acceptable alternative to this since there is no audio transport support built in- its designed mostly for just networking.
I'd love to be proved wrong, so please share with me if I'm missing something here, but how would Wifi be better?
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Wow. You have got some aggression issues.
First of all, read through the entire post above and replace A2DP with WiFi and see what comes out. There is no advantage of using A2DP over Wifi if you have wifi on your phone. Set up a simple streaming server on your mobile then stream it over Wifi to your laptop. After the first configuration you run one application on your phone and press play in whichever media player you have on your laptop to start the music. Dead easy. Full quality, no reencoding or anything. Control the music from your PDA etc etc.
Not entirely sure what you are on about with the range? Wifi works perfectly if you're in the same room, what's A2DPs advantage? You dont have to stand 100 m from your stereo just because you're using wifi
Oh, and reencoded A2DP is _not_ indistinguishable from MP3s on normal speakers. Unless you mean laptop speakers. A2DP is a lossy encoding that is limited by the connection speed (and thus signal strength) which means that you have to be right next to the bluetooth receiver to get maximum quality. As you move away from the receiver the signal will drop, thus the speed will drop along with sound quality. Same thing happens with Wifi but the lowest connection speed over Wifi is still way beyond what you need to stream music at decent quality.
And.. ehm.. Both wifi and bluetooth are ways to transfer data, A2DP is just a protocol like FTP or HTTP. No magic there, Bluetooth and Wifi are basically the same thing but with different bandwidth and range capacities. In this case you'd use HTTP to transfer the music over Wifi instead of A2DP over Bluetooth, result is the same.
why isn't it the same principle?
my motorols HT820 headphones are A2DP and it has a microphone on them and i use it as a headset and to play music
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BTW if you're looking for something free and linuxy why not use VLC over wifi
i'm almost positive they have a mobile client and it would def. be better than a2dp
I have to say I share the thread starter's frustration on this. Perhaps a little clarification is in order.
A2DP is far better suited to the purpose than a stream server on wifi in this case, because was simply designed to do exactly what Dishe is trying to do - connect an audio source to an audio sink without wires. Given the right software stack, all this should involve is a quick pairing procedure.
Streaming audio on the other hand, especially from a mobile device, is somewhat tedious - hacky at best, but certainly not "dead simple". You'd have to set up a stream server, probably third party and definitely not part of standard wifi installs. A audio streaming server on a mobile device could prove to be quite a resource hog as well. Attempting to this so in a time where bluetooth dongles (especially the made in china ones) that come with Bluesoleil go for next to nothing sounds like unnecessary fuss to me.
About a solution, I think picking up a cheap bluetooth dongle with Bluesoleil installed would be the most painless way to go. Linux and bluetooth don't exactly play nice from experience, but I've never actually tried to run an A2DP sink on it. You could do some reading on BlueZ, which is linux's standard stack and see if anyone else has had any luck.
Right now, A2DP sources are more common on PC stacks than A2DP sinks - people usually want to send audio out to a wireless headset or something instead of recieve audio - so google doesn't seem to be of much help. I'm currently trying to get it to work as well, and will test BlueSoleil within the week or so on a Windows computer and post back here if it works. Don't hold your breath, though.
Hi ppl!
For some time, I have been looking for means to enable streaming audio from my PC to mobile via bluetooth, thus using mobile as Wireless headset and mic.
So, far, I have found solutions/bluetooth stacks which only support streaming audio from the mobile to PC or wireless headsets.
Hence, I am thinking to develop a custom solution for the same. I hope some of the other members may also help me with it. I'm planning to use Ogg Vorbis (Mode 3+) data stream, but can't find a suitable library/decoder for windows mobile to play it. So, I'm looking for someone who can help me with that part.
hi, I have a problem that I have since I bought the source described in the title, with my pocket pc a t-mobile mda pro aka qtek9000 with windows mobile 5.0 using windows media player can not stream audio with bluetooth, though Having installed the A2DP and AVRCP protocol, anyone can advise me on why I'm going slightly mad!!!
p.s. please if anyone answer for a solution, explained to me very easily, because I do not want to err