I HAVE JUST AQUIRED A SPV M1000 FRENCH WHICH IN REALITY IS QTEK 2020 MANUFACTURED BY HTC WHICH ALSO MANUFACTURES O XDA AND I MATE. BUT THE VERSION I GOT CAME WITH ORANGE BUNDLED PROGRAMS. THE PDA PHONE IS SIM LOCKED AND WORST, SOME OF THE NORMAL PPC PROGRAMS WHICH WORKED FINE WITH THE UNLOCKED VERSION JUST WON'T WORK WITH THIS ORANGE ONE. IS ANYBODY FAMILIER WITH THIS PROBLEM ( A FRENCH ONE). THANKS
If you want to unlock the M1000, do a search on this site for a piece of software called xda2unlock. That will unlock it hopefully. I have an M1000 myself and i have never had any problems with running any software, can you give more details?
NO LUCK SO FAR AND I TRIED SOME OXDA UNLOCK PROGRAM WHICH I FOUND ON THIS FORUM, BUT NO CHANCE.
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE MY SPV M1000 HAS BEEN VERY UNSTABLE LATELY IE: EVERY 3 OR 4 DAYS THE UNIT WILL LOCK UP AND NEITHER THE POWER BUTTON OR SOFT RESET WILL WORK AND WHEN I REMOVE THE BATTERY, I LOSE ALL MY DATA AS IF I DID A HARD RESET.
ORANGE FRANCE HAS ALREADY REPLACE MY UNIT 3 TIMES.
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON ??? :twisted:
Problems
You are not alone, have a look at these
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=spv+m1000+problems&btnG=Google+Search
@ richardleigh
Please stop shouting! .
About to buy a Universal .. currently with Orange ..but.. are there any strong reasons for moving to O2? Obviously hardware is the same, but is running the exec in corporate mode going to be significantly different to Orange?
Thanks!
just prefer the black xda exec, and i got a better free minutes deal with O2 (500mins free xnetwork)
In a post somewhere on this forum someone asked a question about the M5000 and installing software that suggested to me that Orange locks their machines to stop you installing unapproved (unsigned?) 3rd-party software.
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, of course :roll: but if it's true then that would be one major reason to steer clear of the M5000 IMHO. :shock: This user's post seemed to imply that Orange have sold other handsets with the same lock applied, so if you're already with Orange then you may know the answer to this question already.
my experience with orange is this....
been with them for a couple years, had a spv e200 then a m1000. i switched to o2 last week because :-
1) had terrible signal at home
2) the m5000 is bloody expensive on orange, paid 90 quid for the exec on o2 business tarrif, 35 quid pm
just my 2 cents
interesting about locking it from 3rd party software .. only ever had standard phones through orange so not come across this before .. currently got an ipaq and want the same freedom to install what I want!
The thing I do like about orange is their customer service .. has always impressed me, and they have always given me good tariffs to keep me with them..
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
currently with am orange, upgraded from the m1000 to m5000
they give 1000mb data a month for the next tree months and 30 video calls
I paid nothing for my upgrade and am on a £25.00 amonth tariff.
I currently have tomtom 5.1, battary pack pro, pocketweather, tcpmp player
audio recorder, adobe reader, etc
all installed with no problems apart from tomtom 5.1 which involved some twicking.
i have installed all kinds of games for testing and %90 pesent of them worked ok.
i use my pda 80% of the time for Live emails, podcast stuff, downloaded tv episode watching and 20% making calls.
:wink:
toucam said:
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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I have the M5000 - I really want to upgrade my ROM, or at least do something that will speed up my Universal! It has dog-slow response rendering it useless for 50% of the time.
Surely there can't be any software that prevents ROM upgraded? The whole point of a ROM upgrade is that software is wiped. And unless there's any weird SIM interaction, this sounds impossible.
Anyway, I'm slightly worried about doing it, as it would void Orange warranty, and there's no Orange ROM available to put it back on if it goes wrong!
Anyone with more info on the M5000 - come forward, it would be great to hear from you!
TIA
Mat
Disable the orange plugin from the today screen, and also error reporting (if not already)
The orange plugin slows it down, and with it diabled, my m5000 is marvellous!
That sounds good - if Orange only use a plugin, is nice and easy to disable. Sounds better than having to install the O2 EXEC into corporate mode??
Thanks
Firstly, i have just received my m5000 that i bought from ebay.
i am a novice and i do have loads of questions. i do hope, although some of the questions are likely to be stupid, that i will not insult you.
roms
as far as i understand, this is the combitation of design and software that can be installed on my device - am i correct?
Also, from reading the forum, the most popular rom is o2 exec - is it worth overwriting my orange rom? if you had m5000 - would you do it?
does this o2 exec rom have tomtom navigation? or how can i add it?
Device itself
How to switch the thing off??? this question puzzled me for the whole day - how do i completly switch off this thing to change the simcard for example??
games
Are there any good games i can download? ) What will you recommend, as it got boring at work lately
simlock
my device is locked to orange, but i use Three. Is it worth getting this unlocked at orange (i will have to contact the seller, pay 20 pounds, etc...) or would you in my place just get the orange sim for now? I know there is no exact answer to my question, but what will you do?
sorry again for some basics, i hope i did not annoy you too much!
Switching off
Hi,
You can switch your M5000 by entering the program called "Wireless Manager". In there, click on "All Off". You will notice that you mobile network, bluetooth and Wifi will stop. Then you can just power off your M5000 and wait for 10 seconds before you can remove your battery.
That's how I will switch off my O2 Exec.
Good luck!
Regards,
Johnnie
And why? I just take the battery out if I wanna take the SIM out :lol:
IGS, please respect time of people here and spend some time researching first. Read the posts from last few days, use search function, use google. All the answers are there. And only if you can't find it then ask questions like this.
To get the navigation software and hardware - you have to buy it
If you wanna use your 3 simcard, unlock the device, if not, what's the point?
ROM is like Windows on your PC, an operation system without which your M5000 won't work.
Games: there is a very good topic called GAMES FOR EXEC
Hi everyone, I've just purchased an SPV M5000 off ebay and it should be with me on Wednesday. I've been reading up on this for a few hours but still have some questions which I'd appreciate some help with if you can.
I understand the Orange SPVM5000 is sim locked, is this true and how easy is it to unlock. I will be using this with an iBook and The Missing Sync software. I can use virtual PC if need be to flash the rom, but would I be better off going to a shop / market stall and paying a tenner?
My first question is: is the Orange branding as slow as the O2 Active branding? I'd hate it to be as slow as some reviews are saying.
I have read a lot about the corporate install option on the O2 XDA Exec, I presume this is available on the SPV M5000 as well - can someone please confirm? I have read that you need to enter the O2 connection settings on the Exec when you enter corporate mode, do you have to do this on the M5000 as well? If so can someone please post the settings?
If I flash the rom or debrand the phone, will I need to contact Orange to get GPRS & MMS re-enabled? They told me that they won't help me directly as I did not register the phone.
I am really looking forward to getting this but want to get it running at a good speed, so any assistance would be gratefull received.
James
First I would like to say you made a great choice going with Windows Mobile. After my first device I considered myself a spokesperson for WM.
I also had an Orange SPV M5000 in the past and if you call them up they will give you the unlock code. The free way would be to get Buzz_Lightyears sim unlock tool available from his website buzzdev.net
If you feel confident enough you can do everything to the phone yourself, but as it is a very expensive unit you have think twice about doing any flashing to the phone.
My o2 active UI was very slow, and only got slower as more programs were open. The orange one responds a bit faster, but I dont know many people who keep the original stuff on there anyway. There are so many programs out there that can do alot more.
I do not believe there is a corporate mode install on the Orange version but you dont need any connection settings anyway.
Once you get the phone you will have to configure the network settings for MMS and GPRS yourself. I notice that u have are with fido as I am, but am pretty sure the settings will be different since you are in the states.
You can try these setting for GPRS and see if they work:
APN: wap.fido.ca (or mayb .com)
USER: fido
PASS: fido
Your last question about speed is that there are so many programs out there that enable you to do what you want but you have to keep in mind that each open program slows the phone down so you have to make a compromise somewhere.
Hope this helps
Thank you very much for your help. I set my profile up wrong initially when I registered on here, I am actually in the UK and will probably use an Orange SIM for the phone, so I don't really need to unlock it I guess.
I would like to change the software though, could you tell me what settings I will need to enter and where (I will find the actual values for Orange UK)?
Many thanks
James
Luciferslux said:
I would like to change the software though
James
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What kind of softwares u r considering ?
debrand SPV M5000
Hi there
I was wondering is the anyway to debrand Orange SPV M5000
If yes, is it complicated process?
Please advice
Kind regards,
Arian
Hey,
if you do a little research on this forum and its wiki it's not hard to find the methods to reflash your Universal with another provider ROM. If this is what you mean by debrand
Take a look here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tion On How To Upgrade with Bootloader method
If you find any error it's quite possible you'll find its solution in the forum already
Good luck!
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I was wondering is the anyway to debrand Orange SPV M5000
If yes, is it complicated process?
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Yes it is possible to have ROM of ur choice to ne same model , and it is not at all a complicated process its just a same procedure as u upgrade ur device with ur official ROM with some added 2-3 steps and thats it .
I have an SPV M700 (HTC P3600).
I have the following problems with it:
Speaker phone is rubbish, got it set up in the cradle in my car and can hardly hear the person i am talking too. Anyone agree?
GPS!!!!!! TomTom will not work and is driving me know where except slowly insane. Same problem as other post, no mention of GPS in menus and tomtom just says No GPS device! Other post talked about ROMs? Sorry i have no idea what these are or how to install them. Any chance of someone giving me a quick dummies guide. It seems to work for other person having the exact prob.
Most internet pages don't come out too well, expected better from the IE windows mobile. Not used it before, you see.
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
PLEASE PLEASE spend a minute helping me. I am looking at the MDA compact III on t-mobile but just been told tomtom won't work on it by them. Don't know what speaker phone is like on it either.
Kind regards
George
Nottingham.
George Nottingham...... Relax, get a brew, take a breath..........
First a question.... have you read all that there is here.... and which version of Tom Tom are you trying to run, you need 6.03 an "most" of the problems go away other wise....... go read this lot:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310971
Beofre you start rom-ing read also all of either:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305133
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
after reading AT LEAST the first post of each, upgrade the rom, there is an Orange .cab (file thinggy) knockig about to put all your orange setting and front page back on after sorting out the software and getting TT running.
As for the speaker phone... never been happy with mine, but use SoreTooth in stead
More tea and biscuits
Thanks deech for your quick reply. All that talk of tea and relaxing really worked!
Ok i have just checked the tomtom version and is it 6.00. Never i have been so happy that i have out of date software! Only concern is i tried to run Orange's Sat Nav (yes they have there own sat nav that comes sort of free, funny thing is when i rang them up they didn't know they did!). Anyway that didn't pick up a GPS signal either, ummmmm.
What is SoreTooth? Searched for it but can't find anything.
Any luck with my other two moans:
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
George Nottingham
I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!
ahh ummm right.... missed the other moans.........
Right Oranges own Tom Tom thing FORGET IT, get real and proper Tom Tom (from wherever ) It's limited and trial and well frankly not worth the effort.
The Phone pad thing... get PhonePad International (search round these fora) it's here
As for the unlocking....... search round here for CID and ... summat else Unlocking. No if you just unlock, then you wont loose the Orange Branding.. however why you would want that is beyond me... but hey ho.
In Tom Tom have you checked the gps receiver?..... Set it to Other NEMA and com 9 and baud rate... well anything you want from what I can see.
In TTT6.03 there is anew option... "Use Built in Reciever" and after that it ermmmm just works.......
Think I got it all now......... right time for some tea here too
And sorry for the red herring.... soretooth = Bluetooth... can be troublesome on occasion
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I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!
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Yes you can, follow the posts I gave earlier and robert will be your mothers brother, I did it, just remeber back up any "special" ring tones, and phone book etc etc, and afterwards grab the Orangesettings.cob, to put the mms gprs etc all back in place
Can't beleive i fell for that! I gave sorethooth a proper search as well. what a plonka. I think it comes with being a novice to all this, it takes over your life a bit and your mind only thinks about tomtom v6!
Ok cheers agian for your help deech, much appreciated.
Just one more thing if you will be so kind.
Now you have equiped me with all the links to keep me up till the weekend, i think i want to hard reset my phone. Didn't like the ebay unlocking thing and hope its hasn't buggered it up. Thinking i could start fresh? Good idea. Maybe just a factory reset?
G
's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?
Hi macmacman- you still need to slow down!
I'd actually go against the grain here and say don't consider flashing your ROM until you are decently competent with Windows Mobile. There isn't a great deal of difference, and the M700 comes with a late version of WM5.
Why did you need to unlock? Are you going to use a different SIM card in it? Some unlockers actually work by replacing the Radio part of the ROM, and some of those are NOT GPS enabled. Go into Settings/System/Device Information and check the Radio version- it must end in .11 for GPS to be enabled. All stock Orange M700's come with GPS enabled. If yours is incorrect you must install un updated Radio stack.
As Deech says, set TTN to either Built-In, or Other NMEA using COM9 and 57600 Baud, then GO OUTSIDE WITH A CLEAR VIEW OF THE SKY to obtain a first fix- it will take up to 10 minutes the 1st time. If TTN has detected your GPS, the status line under the map display will say 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal' - if you see that you just need to wait till it amalgamates all the sat signals. If you still see 'No GPS Device', then you either have a faulty device, or the Radio ROM isn't working properly.
Either case would be a cause for replacement by Orange- another reason not to flash the ROM, because by doing so you invalidate the warranty.
Keep trying- its worth it!
[Edit- Oh and T-Mob are talking bolox- any WM5 device can run any WM5 program. But, the Compact III is an inferior device- no WiFi, slower processor, and MicroSD card as opposed to MiniSD. Micro cards are slower, and more prone to file system errors]
deech said:
's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?
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A hard reset can be good to clear unwanted operator customisations, especially if you reset before the Operator Customisations start, but with the Orange M700, this can lead to loss of some services, especially Orange World, which is built into the main ROM and Extended ROM. Disabling the horrible Orange Today application is no bad thing though!
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting
Ok i have checked my Radio version under Device information and it says 1.16.00.00 so you right that doesn't end in .11 and so my GPS doesn't work. So i need to install un updated Radio stack.
Like you said NeilM the m700 come with .11 so something has changes this? Could have been that dodgy ebay unlocking software? I bet orange will reject my devise if i send it back for that reason!! damn it.
I am thinking of going onto t-mobile for the web and walk package. Actually i don't like the orange menu so don't care if i loose that too.
So i just need to install un updated Radio stack and so a SIM unlock. easier said then done?
Cheers NeilN and deech for your help so far. George
Yes- your 'dodgy' unlock software has corrupted the radio stack.
You first need to 'super CID' your device to allow a new Radio ROM to be added (though as your current radio is non standard this has probably already happened);
Head to This Thread which has links halfway down the 1st page to a CID Unlocker, and Radio 1.41 upgrade.
That ought to work, but make sure to follow ALL the instructions!
Ok I have hard reset my phone, so i am now back to where i started and hopefully there is no trace of my dodgy ebay unlocking rubbish?
First thing i did after resetting is check my Radio version under Device information and it still says 1.16.00.00! That must mean it was shipped to me like that.
Anyway i need to change that to .11 so i have gone to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
and downloaded the 2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
Is the right? Sorry for being a dullard if wrong.
Anyway i downloaded it put it in a new folder on my devise then went to it on my devise and it said this is not a valid pocket pc app!
Have i got the wrong file?
No sorry- hard resetting DOES NOT go back to how it was supplied- it goes back to the latest ROM flash, be it the Radio or OS, so you are stuck with the dodgy radio stack until you upgrade it.
I don't know the specifics of the Radio ROM you have downloaded, but 1.41 is the current latest.
The file MUST BE RUN from the PC, with Activesync connected. If your device is correctly unlocked, then it will load into the PPC via A/S and initiate the update process. In the course of that, A/S will stop, and a generic USB connection established.
At that point you may get a 'Cannot Connect' error, and the screen of the Trinity will be multicoloured bars. You now need to run the update file once again, and the ROM Update progres bar should start. If it won't proceed, then you need to take Step 1 from the page you cited, and load the Hard SPL updater, which will allow the Radio update.
Ok its going well, i've managed to change my radio to.11 which i pretty proud of to be honest!
Now then i have tried the terrible orange sat nav just to see if the gps would work and it did! Next i tried my TomTom v6.00 and it didn't work. Do i definately need 6.03?
Feeling more confident now. might upgrade to WM6. If i go hear
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
HowTo:
1) Update SPL: HARD-SPL
2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
3) Update ROM: 20070527_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
and download 1) 2) and 3) in order will that be ok? Will it get ride of my Orange today menus, hopefully they are a bit annoying!
I also would like Phone Pad international or something that can act like a standard textign phone pad when i am entering text for some reason mine is available to me? Think that might be an Orange thing as my mate has an older HTC and has it on.
Thanks for your quick replies so far, much appreciated.
George
one more thing, i am about to purchase tomtom navigator 6. Jsut rang them up and the version they sell is the latest 6.06. Take it this will be fine considering deech said 6.03?
Thanks
yup, basically in 6.03 they introduced "use built in gps" feature, so should be safe to assume 6.06 will still have this
I've ordered my tomtom software. I've also upgraded to WM6 thanks to that thread all about it. Doing ok for a novice i think.
Last thing to solve is this keypad thing.. had a look for phonepad international but can't find it?
Looking through options on new OS and can't find any options for the keyborad. I now seem to have lost transcriber with WM6 too!?
If you have already bought TTN6.00, you should be able the updated file FOC via TomTom Home, though you will need to pay if you want the latest maps.
Using TTN6.00, in the GPS settings, select Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NEA Bluetooth..), then Baud 57600 and connect to COM9
Once those are entered, you should be able to see the main screen status change to 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal'; the GPS Status screen will have asmall revolving icon at the top right. This proecess can take some time and a clear view of the sky, so be patient!
Google PhonePad International on XDA Devs and you will find the file. It runs well on late WM5 or WM6, but as you found, won't run on the Orange version. It is a bit limited in that it doesn't have word completion, but is useful nonetheless.
Some of the WM6 ROM's omit transcriber, because it uses memory, and few people use it anyway
NeilM said:
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting
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Newbie to HTC devices. I'm familiar with ETEN X500/WM5/WM6 etc, ROM flashing by card and all that jazz, but CID/SPL I don't know yet, so:
does SPL unlocking also cause CID & SIM unlocking? Or does each operation need to be done consecutively, if so any order?
what does CID & SPL stand for anyway, please?
and can the sat locations be updated via internet, like HP and ETEN etc ?
The reason for this is I'm waying an HTCP3600 against yet-to-be released ETEN X800