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Hello.
I have recently bought for second time a Qtek 9100 and i have noticed that it has a really poor reception, regarding wifi signal.
More specifically, if i move to next room( few meters away) i loose half strength of signal, and if i move another room (less than 10 meters from my pc) i barely have signal (around 20%)!!!
With a Qtek 9000 i had before, in the same room i had around 90% wifi signal and with my laptop the same!
I have to notice that i selected "best performance" in wifi settings( but the strange thing is whether i have it in best performance or best battery life i can't see any difference).
Is this a hardware failure? If so, i should move quickly to get an exchange device before the replacement period ends.
Thanks in advance for your help!
same problem, tried the wifi g hack, no results. I suggest you try that [wifi g hack] any help from anyone else would be good though
Yes, i have tried that, but no luck.
No change with that!
Is the poor signal normal? Any other 9100/Kjam user to share his feedback?
Please tell your experience as to know if my device is defective, in order to move quickly tomorrow to exchange it.
Thanks!
well i dont know, i get normal signal at home or on anyother open home wifi network, but at school which has wpa-tsk settings, i can only access the wifi when im across the hall. they have another router in the other building, but i can be 5ft away from it and get nothing
Hmmm, i have problems whenever i try to connect to router, usb wifi key, public access point, anything. Just 10 meters away and signal goes close to nothing. So, i am convinced that it is a defective unit.
If anyone else can tell us their experience...
Ok,thank you for your help!
Ur lucky you can connect at all.
I can't even connect to my home wifi set up!
Well I can if I plug the Wizard into my laptop via USB!
Have you guys tried running this CAB? I think it does more than change one registry setting. I have a QTEK 9100 and it worked well for me. No issues with distance or performance (at least not yet). Using a Belkin Pre-N router. Make sure to soft reset after running the CAB on the device. Hope it works for you.
Did nothing for me,
Still can't connect to my home WiFi
yea i have this installed now for about 2 weeks.no additional results
Yes, i have installed it too, no luck with it...
Hmmm, things get complicated.
I tested an 9100 and a Qtek S200 in a shop (demo phones) and i have seen that their wifi is close to my 9100 as far as it concerns the signal.
So, if this is the normal, this sucks!!!
Since 3 days that i have started investigating the case, i have compared my 9100 with a Dell Axim X51v, a Palm Lifedrive and a Qtek 9000, all in the same place.
The results:
Palm lifedrive: 90% signal
Qtek 9000: 80% signal
Dell Axim 51v: 50% signal
Qtek 9100(mine): 25% signal
What the heck!!!
I start to believe that 9100/S200 have a very bad wifi module, regarding it's signal ability!
Any other feedback?
Noone uses his wifi?
Thanks!
I can only tell you that I have the same. the WIFI modukes are not the best you can get.
I can use it but it looses the signal quite often by just moving the phone. :?
Yes, i believe that all new Qtek's-after the tests i've done- have bad wifi modules( except maybe for Qtek 9000, all the others are crap)!
Hello All,
I am wondering if you can help. I have a Linksys N router at home which is supposed to be 4x the area of coverage from a g. It is in my basement and the signal in my bedrooms is very weak. I purchased a Linksys signal booster and plugged on the first floor to repeat the signal to the bedrooms.
Here is the problem: I use my TYTN on the first floor close to the basement window and the signal is ok but when I move farther on the first floor the signal becomes very weak - not to mention how weak it is upstairs in the bedrooms.
I tried it with my Univeral and it is a killer full bar signal. This leads me to believe it is either my wifi is busted on my TYNT in terms of reception or they have very weak WIFI antenas. Can someone confirm if they have a similar problem?
Thanks,
Gilbert
yes i think there is a problem with the signal
he is very weak!
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
At least it got better WiFi-signal than the Wizard...
Change the mode to 'best performance' and try again.
Cheerio
Howard
El_Mar1ach1 said:
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
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I don't know about Universal, but I have a BlueAngel and it doesn't have better wifi signal than Hermes. Hermes a lot better for me, mine is an HTC TyTN (WWE) #628.
FWIW I have both Blue Angel and Wizard devices -- the Wizard's WiFi is far superior to the BA. The BA can barely pick up the signal for my office network, but the Wizard can connect to it from outside.
You should try to adjust the battery vs. performance slider in wifi settings
and report if the signal is stronger then.
I haventh had the opportunity to test the wlan yet myself.
Guys, i have use ALL HTC devices so far and i can surely say that their wifi chipsets in terms of signal strength is totally crap( i have made lots of tests comparing to other PDA brands).
I haven't used an HTC Hermes so far but i am afraid( judging from your saying) that the problem still persists.
I've done a quick test: opened wififofum on BlueAngel and Hermes, and walked around the house.
BA found 13APs, while TyTN found 22. At some point BA was seeing 7/13 while TyTN 11/22.
So, TyTN is far superior
Well here is the deal.
I tried my universal in my bedroom and it has full bar and then tried it with my Tytn and it has one bar!!!!!
I have a linksys N router in my basement and a signal booster in the first floor and this is adquate to boost the signal to my second floor bedrooms. But instead, all other devices have excellent reception but my tytn has one or two bars to the max when i put it in best performance mode. I am running a surge on wifi signals in my house and it is still weak.
WTF
Gilbert
Sorry If I'm kinda jumping or hijack this thread. Although this thread I guess is better than I start a new thread. My Prophet also sucks when receiving WIFI signals. I have an Alpine, an 02 Zinc, a nintendo DS, a laptop. dudes, my prophet couldn't even receive signal on the next room adjacent to where my router is. but for everything else in my devices, it can go as far as outside my house. probably 15meters away from the wifi, but can still browse. my prophhet can only receive wifi signals if i put my phropet besides the router itself. then slowly moving away but not exceeding 10 FEET. I mean what the hell is the wlan for if it ain't going further than 10 eet from the router. in my devices here's from the farthest to the weakest:
1. My Laptop of course: can still watch youtube outside the house.
2. My Alpine: dudes the signal rocks! even thru my inside gates.
3. My Zinc: slightly nearer than my alpine.
4. My NDS: kinda halfway than my Alpine.
5. My Prophet: worse: you should be beside the router. then why i don't i just open my dang PC and browse from it.
I have all these device with me.
for about sometime I also had the nokia n91. wifi signal's pretty good too. I just sold it out since when browsing heavy sites, the explorer turns off. I freakinly hate my prophet for it's ridiculous wifi connection. Currently I'm flashing all available rom there is just to test my WIFI reception. Hope you guys observe my tests. thanks!
What I want to say is that the wifi singnal has matters with the barrier in the space and the network condition itself. Beside that ,I made a test before,the wifi singal on WM6.1 was better than WM6.Maybe you can try to update your OS version.
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
same happens to me, my dell laptop works just fine but my tytn looses signal 8-10 meters from wifi spot...
Change the power save mode to best performance, to see if it helps:
start - settings - connections - wireless lan - power mode
Although it doesn't sound like the case, it is possible for the radio receiver to be overloaded if the signal is too strong as would be the case with it right next to the AP.
Bit like trying to listen to music standing next to a speaker chucking out 10kW
David.
Yup, have tried that power save/performance thingie. Wasn't much difference wether the powersave or performance was at it's highest setting.
Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
Yeah i can agree my wifi signal is poor on my MDA Vario II, worse than my Vario, and far below my laptop,
it sucks as i live just near a star bucks and have a 1 year t-ob hotspot subscription.
not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
Wiper said:
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
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poor WLAN reception was quite an issue in HTC Wizard and unfortunately problem remains with HTC Hermes/TyTN as well. big shame imho, however since i have web'n'walk deal, i don't use WLAN in my Vario II at all.
ferrari said:
Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
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The s/n is HT628F...
I have the same problem described above. Very weak signals and constantly dropping connection / looking for other signals. I have an M3100. Is it a ROM or hardware fault?
Same problem here.
2 laptops work fine, as did my HTC Prophet (Orange M600).
I returned the M600 and went for the M3100 instead. Little did I know the M3100 would have problems picking up the wifi signal from my router where the M600 had NO problems at all.
I've been considering replacing the wirless router for one with a bigger range, or installing a signal booster of some sort.
I thought maybe I have a duff phone, but looks like it's the norm.
So far at least my replacement Vario2 isnt displaying the previous wi-fi sigal dropping problem so maybe the problem was ironed out on the newer models - my old serial number was HTC623 and the replacement is HTC624
same here - very weak wifi on serial - HT634xxx
Yes i need to also confirm that my unit is suffering from very weak wifi signal.
Right now im siting by my 838 Pro and my notebook, my notebook has "full signal (5 bars)" but my 838 pro has "very weak signal (1 bar)"
my unit has serial number of HT634xxxxxx
bought in bangkok 4 days ago.
Thanks for any inputs
Cheers
NR
Just got my phone this week, serial number is HT635, WiFi performance is crap.
I've only managed to have it work once so far for about 20 minutes, even if I stand next to my router.
Doesn't work at work either.
magicalex said:
not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
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Are your sure they said it was a hardware failure??
I have the same problem. Sitting about 5 ft. from my wireless router the Tytn drops the connection, displays 2 wireless icons in the topbar and wants to connect the the wireless router of somebody else. I have to delete the wireless settings and re-enter them in order to get WiFi working again. The signal is also very weak and after 10 meters the connection is gone. HT633.
Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
What ??? The Wi-Fi in TyTn is that very bad ???
I hate to say that I just ordered that phone with T-Mobile NL ! And I ditched my Magician. The reason was that I want that Wi-Fi !!
Poor me
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Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
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I think your point is accurate there Lurker. I've done some hunting around to find a Registry hack to enable Wifi G which I found here.
I'm happy to report that it actually made quite a difference. Previously the signal would cut out constantly in my living room and was generally useless. After applying the Wifi G hack, I get a medium to low signal in my living room, which is stable. I've tested the bandwidth and it is exactly the same as my PC gets. The Vario II Wifi reception still isn't exactly great, but it works in the rooms I need it to, so that's good enough for me.
Here is the hack (amended for Vario II):
1) Locate the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS
2) Add new DWORD Value:
name: dot11SupportedRateMaskG
D value: 8
guys, this hack is for the Wizard only and does nothing on the Hermes... the Hermes comes with 802.11g wifi enabled by default.
Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome or am I the only one with this matter.
Heijdemann said:
Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome of am I the only one with this matter.
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I'm afraid the TyTn (Hermes) does not have a strong reception on wifi. Fine up to 10 metres and if not too much in the way upto 15 or so. Ok generally in and around normal house but if it's Buckingham Palace not too hot. Just the compromise we pay for having to pack in allthe other features I'm afraid.
Mike
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
tolson said:
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
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Your right. The antenna is along top edge. When in landscape your left hand tends to obscure it.
Mike
The WIFI reception on these devices is exteremly horrible. There must be a problem in the design, as it don't do more than 10 meters. We have a Andes in the house as well and it has no problems at all with wifi reception.
There must be a fix out there. I purchased this device specifically for the wifi .
have you noticed the connector for spar external place on the back of the TYTN? an is found rubberizes near the camera. I have attentively looked at the photos of the inside and I believe that this is related to the form radio and not to the wifi.
I would like so much to realize a connector wifi for external spar (you see PSP wifi connector) even replacing that connector radio with a wifi and connecting a cable on the chip wifi TNETW1250.
the welding of the cable should be made on the chip TNETW3422M.
Is there someone who has photo more detailed of those that are on the forum of xda?
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
Ce said:
I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
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It's a curious thing - yes I get good reception up to 15 meters then drops off badly. BUT if I'm driving around with wifi on it detects an endless stream of home networks that in many cases must greatly exceed 10/15 meters.
Mike
jeffreycentex said:
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
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In my opinion I think you correct with this setting only the interval of the cheksum when connected and not the sensivity of wifi receiver.
I email Sony a complain about weak signal and this is what I got in respond:
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Xperia Support.
We don't have a list of the newest updates for this phone, but I have heard nothing of your issue before, it is worth trying a reset if there is no update available.
Try resetting the hardware. To do this, hold down the two keys on the front with silver "-" signs. While you are pressing them, take the stylus and press the reset button through the top opening through the casing of the stylus.
What I also suggest is resetting the phone software via "Clear Storage".
To do this, select Start icon, then Settings, then tap the System tab. You will see Clear Storage in the top right corner.
1. The Sony Ericsson Update Service is a free download that can be found at www.sonyericsson.com, after you click on "Support" and then choose your phone model.
2. Select your country and region.
3. Under the section titled”Software and Set Up” choose, “Sony Ericsson Update Service”.
4. Download the application to your computer and install the program.
Once you have installed the program and run it, it will give you instructions on how to install it on the computer and how to run it on the phone afterwards. Please make sure the phone and the USB cable are not connected to the PC throughout the installation process. The Update Service is meant to update the software on the phone.
If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at SonyEricsson.com/X1 or call us at 1-877-7XPERIA.
Dunno what's going on here, I can't complaint: my reception is GREAT in both X1a and X1i
You should start a poll on this thread
1- Reception GREAT
2- Reception OK but...
3- Reception SUCKS
Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...
signal is temprmental. i am not sure it is down to the phone though
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Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...
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Same for me..
Compared to my Motorola Q9h Global, my Xperia X1a (and my Nokia E71-2) appear to have fewer bars in the same place.
I don't want to insult anybody by suggesting that this is the case, but I hope we're not assuming that the Xperia has poor RF signal capture just because it's not showing as many bars as another device.
In my part of the world there is a notorious dead zone between Culpeper VA and Orange VA. There are very few phones that can hold an AT&T signal through this zero-bar signal area, and the Xperia is one of them.
reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case
1- Reception GREAT
Poll up
Express yorself
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reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case
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I'll second that, my N95 8GB has a better signal strength than my Xperia, i have owned a few Win mob devices in the past and they have all had poor reception compared to The Nokias i had at the time.
Done blame SE.. its a matter of fone operators.
nup, reception is much worse on the x1 than my k800i.
with my old phone I could get a little bit of reception at work (thick walls, no windows, lots of machinery..)
but I rarely get a signal now with the x1.. (and am unable to make calls, or they drop out half way through)
(and I am with the same provider)
But signal bars don't really represent how much signal you get. Making calls and it not dropping are the key factors you need to compare with.
Yes, however having comparison with SE P1, and my HP laptop with ExpressCard,
all on the same operator,
X1 is a bit weeker on reception.
Im also having same problem with signal on o2 in the uk, my blackbbery bold is fine, but x1 normally shows 1/2 bars
Really? Well here in montreal we have a tunnel, the Louis-Hyppolite Lafontaine tunnel. This tunnel is a dead zone, of course, but on a strong enough phone you get a link until nearly at the middle. With my X1, I got signal from start to end, the only other phones that I saw capable of doing this are the blod and E71.
Even if in my phone I see 3 bars, the signal is still very strong. Well maybe the X1 has better sensitivity, that would explain why you see 2 bars on the SE, when, conversely, you see 4 on a motorola.
X1 definitely has serious reception problem.
I am not taking about the number of bars but off and on signal are comepltely gone and it will start searching for a network.
I have tested this by putting the phone on the table and by observing the signals bars over a long period of time. Often I have noticed full signal bars and many time there are not signals at all.
Service is weak in my area but none of my pervious mobiles have shown such a poor reception.
My reception is just ridiculously bad!(I live in the Netherlands, Utrecht)
When I'm on MSN or browsing the web, or even when I'm SMS'ing,
the signal just drops. It's really starting to bug me!
I dont even have a connection when I'm on the bathroom @home..
I've noticed that it seems to be more due to the issue of HSDPA. It'll lose signal with HSDPA but then it'll connect with full bars of the older GPRS. In my opinion this would indicate that the service provider (vodafone) is the issue, not the phone.
I think another issue is that the radio antenna is actually part of the metal battery cover. If you take it off and turn the cover over you can see 4 exposed pieces of metal, I assume these are just that. Perhaps the signal you receive is so poor that even your hand covering the antenna is blocking it.
Here are the results of a hard comparison:
three (3) different devices -
HTC Polaris P3650 (ie. the 1st one)
SE X1 with radio ROM 1.11.25.76
Acer DX900
I used the same SIM card in all three in exactly the same marginal signal area (same verandah) in succession (total swap time to all three was about 10 minutes, no sudden electrical storms, weather fine and clear)
Both the Polaris and the DX900 easily found enough signal to work directly after boot with both HSDPA and GSM
The X1 obdurately stayed dumb and stupid, although it works OK in high signal areas
Conclusion: the X1 is useless in marginal signal areas. I suspect the aluminium case. It works fine if you never leave the city areas. When combined with the original underpowered battery, I now regard the X1 as an expensive toy ... pity, as it has lots of grunt (CPU, RAM, storage, resolution, GPS) but I'm simply not in the design market demographic.
I've tried 4 different radio ROM's now in the X1. WiFi, BT, GPS are excellent. GSM/GPRS and UMTS are hopeless in marginal signal areas.