Hi all,
When I had a Palm device, one of the most useful utilities I had was a little proggy that allowed FN or SHIFT characters to be entered from the keyboard without having to press the FN or SHIFT key at the same time. For example, on the O2Exec, in order to type a ? you have to press FN-M. With this little app you simply double click M and get the desired ?. The double click speed was adjustable. This really does speed up typing.
Is anything similar available for WM5? I've hunted but not found anything as of yet...[/b]
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Has anybody worked out if the keyboard has a Ctrl key or a function that works like Ctrl , handy when quitting apps eg Ctrl Q.
Or editing.
I couldnt find it when I used the device.
Cheers
That's very strange because I have it on my MDA II's touchscreen keyboard. Are you talking about the touchscreen keyboard that you have to pop up by pressing the up arrow in the lower right-hand corner in the Messages app for instance?
I wonder whether this feature would also be ROM-dependent.
i meant the hard keyboard not sip. its on sip but when i used the universal i couldnt see it.
Yes I am interested in the Ctrl button on the universal as well, I owned a XDAIIs and found the keyboard on that didn't have the Ctrl key either so you can't do CUT/COPY or paste unless there is another way. I cut and paste heaps so the keyboard was useless to me on the XDAIIs.
Any one know if there is another way to do this on the Universal Keyboard.
what a wind up this is, cant believe they missed the ctrl button off the proper keyboard.
The keyboard has Cut/copy/paste function, so I am happy.
Jasjar is the most awesome PPC Phone yet.
there is a screen tap key (a bit like the right mouse click key on a full computer) this brings up the menu option, with copy and cut in it !! then you can just pres the relevant letter on the keyboard, thus having the same effect (ie press a function key then C or T or V).
PS its Fn [Space] key
cool... i wondered what that key did! that is useful!
[ctrl] is used for more things than copy+paste.
I use my Exec to communicate with *NIX servers using Pocket PuTTY. [ctrl] is kind of essential.
Agree, using putty is a nightmare without a ctrl key. Is there any way of mapping another key to do the same function
Hi Vijay, I try your keypress utility on my Universal. However, have problems setting a "shift" key on the videocall hard botton. I changed the value to 16 according to the keylist. Any advice on this? Thanks.
stanip: this should be moved to the VJKeyPress thread...
VJKeypress can be used to simulate a key press, but for shift, it's like on your pc, just pressing shift and releasing. It won't do anything. I imagine what you want to do is simulate pressing and holding shift, to make CAPITALS. It doesn't do that.
I did make a set of programs to do this, pressing and holding shift, ctrl and alt, but I didn't release them because Tom Hiro's PQz came along and is an amazingly useful program. Try Tom's PQz, and if you get really stuck I'll see about releasing my app. Mine works usefully on non Universals as well, eg Magician (my main phone), but there are issues with the way the Operating System responds to having these keys held down, so it wasn't worth finishing off at the time.
V
Vijay, PQz is a great tool but I failed to find any feature to set a "shift" key for capital letters... Have been looking for this as I use Word quite often. The right shift key will save me the thumb stretch reaching out to the other side. Thanks.
stanip: it might be worth asking Tom to add any features you want, he's actively updating it seems!
I will look into the Shift key issue again, but I'm a bit busy on a few other projects. It might happen soon if I can get it out.
V
Vijay, already suggested to Tom... believe he is prioritizing it. Initially thought the keypress could solve this one faster.
It would be great if yours could help with this request.
Is it possible to do a ~ on the Titan? I don't see it anywhere on the keyboards. Is it possible to get an expanded keyboard program anywhere to send that key?
Yes it possible but not easy. Hit function then tab an onscreen menu will pop up scroll down three clicks and there it is. Im posting from my mogul so ill throw one up to ~ , you get all sorts of symbols ™ € № {} § those are a few
Thanks. Anyway to map that to a key?
Diamond Keyboard
Use the diamond keyboard app. and just hold "H" and you'll get it. Much easier.
I have had problems using the tilde (~) that you get from function-symbols for our WEP key, so I usually text it to myself from a PC (verizonwireless.com). Not sure why it is different, but this method always works for me.
on a pc one can get any ascii key by holding down the alt key and typing in the ascii value
maybe it works on pda's too
also, you could hit the function key then Q for the @ symbol, immediately followed by Function then Space.
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also, you could hit the function key then Q for the @ symbol, immediately followed by Function then Space.
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nice 1, that works
I want to remap the ctrl button to the HW keyboard. I did some searcing on it and found PQzII, but thats not the best solution in my opinion.
Is it possible to map it using AEKmap? I dont know if Im missing something on how it works or what, but I could not get it work with it...
Smarter ones please help...
have not yet managed to do that with AEKmap. Event talked to the programmer. Seems to be a problem with some eT9 files. you can try one of the T9 remover CABs he posts in the AEK FAQ. no luck yet here...something seems to already catch the keyboard input.
We need a real solution for this, its a huge handicap that there is no ctrl button. I have the TP too and I really want this to be fixed on the X1...
We need a fixxxxx.... This is beyond me that TP is the only device with CTRL... Insane...
well i dont think its that important. just use the touchscreen for copy and paste.
Cause I hate to have no CTRL key too, I've just made a remapping for Italian layout (I think it is usable with any layout cause it uses character code, layout independent) who makes you do CTRL+ANY_ALPHABETIC_CHARACTER by typing WIN+ANY_ALPHABETIC_CHARACTER (i.e. CTRL+C by typing WIN+C)
You can do any CTRL+ shortcut, from CTRL+A to CTRL+Z, cause some programs use more shortcuts than others, so I remapped all for any use you like or you need
You need the activated version (commercial one)
You need to type WIN and any key at the same time or type and keep typing WIN before the other key, I say that cause sometimes it seems that the program ignore your typing, train yourself and you'll find the right way to use it
thanks, but it doesnt work on mine
tried it with multikeyhook, still the same.
it just pauses the X1 for a second when i press any WIN+ combo
Just wondering why you think using PQII isn't a good way to map CTRL?
I'm currently using it and having no issues. Its memory footprint is quite small too.
Dear follow DZ owner:
Just bought my DZ today, and disappointed to find a hardware problem.
1. the "printing" of the symbol on the hardware keyboard doesn't match with the soft keyboard, this creates a lot of trouble for the user who get used to the standard HTC layout. e.g. # is on S key and $ is on D key while on soft keyboard @ is on S and # is on D
2. the strange thing is the symbol output from the hardware keyboard IS indeed still based on the soft keyboard layout, which means what you type on the hardware keyboard is NOT what you get from output on the screen.
e.g. printing of the # is on the S key, however output generates by long press S is @ and the worst is output by pressing FN + S gives #.
I didn't see anyone discussing this issue. Am I the only one that is bug by this problem/issue???
In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
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In your second picture, it shows that your on-screen keyboard is the English keyboard ("EN"). Press the soft key towards bottom left and you should be able to select different languages, is there one that matches better in that list ?
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Sorry, what I was trying to point out is that, when a key combine with FN its output is not the same as long press on a key.
Will remapping keys help fix this problem?
I'm also using HK version, but I don't use the built-in IME since I type in PinYin普通话拼音, didn't notice that issue.
If you wanna have a look at the key-mapping, go
/system/usr/keylayout/vision-keypad-hk.kl
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pull it to your computer and open it with text editor, notepad or UltraEdit etc.
The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
@OP: your key map doesn't match your physical keyboard.
@Lennyuk: No.
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The reason its like this is simple.
The hardware keyboard has its own design, made to make our use easier (according to the guys at HTC), however this keyboard still runs on the SAME software used to run the on screen touch keyboard this is why when you do things like long press you still get certain behaviours of the touch keyboard.
You will either need to remap, or just simply get used to the new layout, it will happen over time.
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That's the whole point, the stupid HTC guy think the new key layout will help the user. The truth is they are re inventing the wheel.
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