Using the camera as... - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

a barcode scanner and a webcam... wouldn't that be hilarious?
For the first thing our PDA should pretend to be a USB keyboard and translate the photographed bar code into its numbers.
For the second thing our PDA should pretend to be a USB webcam and instantly stream each picture to the USB port.
You think it's impossible? I don't think so. Softick managed to have the PDA pretend a USB stick. Other pretended devices shouldn't be a problem then!

Chatty - I don't know anything about interfacing with the camera, but obviously from my SuperBright Magician screen adventures, I know that you can kind of control the camera programatically. From there, you could use a timer to snap pictures every X seconds, and use code to FTP them (using wifi), or RAPI them over to the desktop if that was what was required (using USB). On WM5 I believe that this will be significantly easier.
That's not going to give you video I guess. You might be able to look into container video formats to see if we can stream the video, deleting as we're going, so we just stream straight from the PPC to a non local source without taking up much local space. But I've got no idea if that's possible.
Converting the pic from a barcode: you'd have to write custom "ocr" type software I guess. I've never done that before.
Good luck though
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do a search in the forum for camara api or stk
and find that htc is not much for sharing the interface to the camera

Rudegar - tell me about it! At least <WM5 I think the camera is very proprietary, but it can be arm twisted into taking snaps programmatically.
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direct show / camera
may I suggest to have a look at CameraCapture sample in msvc-8.0
Any code to get access to a pixel pointer is welcome

I want to use xda as webcam under Linux...
Barcode reader is great, too

For the second thing our PDA should pretend to be a USB webcam and instantly stream each picture to the USB port.
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I know this software works to 'stream' the video from the camera to the desktop. I haven't tested it as a webcam, maybe it does work (?)
http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/LxCam.html

any one tried that app yet?

pai said:
I want to use xda as webcam under Linux...
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If you mean XDA-II or XDA-III, then the ADCM
camera module is not a problem, there is
a linux driver for it. The problem is the
undocumented ATI 3200 video capture port,
where the camera is connected.
It will be much easier on Magician or Universal,
where the builtin PXA27x camera
interface is used.

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Lx Camera Viewer

Hello
I found LXcam program that is using "Camera for Pocket PC Version 2.60 by HTC Corp." it sends video from mobile device to program on PC. Originally it doesn't work for my MDA Compact but after little tweaking it does now. Program itself is not interesting but owner of this program have HTC Camera API http://www.zone1.de/PocketPC/LxCam.html
If you want run this progrum do the following:
1. Establish an ActiveSync connection
2. Start LxCamView.exe on the desktop computer
3. Start LxCam.exe on the Pocket PC
enjoy
http://blog.opennetcf.org/ncowburn/PermaLink,guid,5f0ebbac-8199-4ad1-aaa5-5e84af695359.aspx
Here's the camera api.
It's wrapper not API.
BRILLIENT no idea what to use if for but great fun
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It's wrapper not API.
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It's a wrapper with source code, i think that says all.
er... it only works when connected trhu USB?! er... wouldn't a normal webcam be cheaper?
I got a program that does somewthin like that thru WiFi, PPC WebCam. but it aint really live feed. it uses the camera to take pictures and uploads them to an FTP. Then you use a browser on the PC to see the pictures. But it is really slowwwwwwwwwww
it is not work on mda 2
it is not works on mda 2
kgx what kind of error message you get?
I have and XDAIIi and the software works perfect. You connect to your pc/laptop via WI-FI. Then you enter the ip number of the PC/Laptop into the software installed on your XDA. Then run the software on you PC/laptop and thats it. Live 'realtime' video. Wander round the building waving the camera about and evething is shown on the PC/laptop Useless but great fun
Blank screen...
Hi!
XDA II/W2003SE (SIN MERGED) - no error mesages, no sound, nothing else ... black ....any ideas???
both windows (pc and pocket pc ) are black
not working on imate pda2k..
ppc gave error, can't connect to server ip.
can ping each other from pc and from ppc .
also, with and without activsync..
ncruz said:
http://blog.opennetcf.org/ncowburn/PermaLink,guid,5f0ebbac-8199-4ad1-aaa5-5e84af695359.aspx
Here's the camera api.
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ncruz,
have you got the Cowburn API working? On XDA III? Other devices?
:?:
LxCam does work, but veeeeeery slowly. Is it uploading individual pictures rather than using a streaming method?
LxCam does work, but veeeeeery slowly. Is it uploading individual pictures rather than using a streaming method?
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agree.. it's really slow... but what the heck.. it's better than nothing :wink:
A pity no real webcam solution exists for the built in cameras.
macsoft said:
er... it only works when connected trhu USB?! er... wouldn't a normal webcam be cheaper?
I got a program that does somewthin like that thru WiFi, PPC WebCam. but it aint really live feed. it uses the camera to take pictures and uploads them to an FTP. Then you use a browser on the PC to see the pictures. But it is really slowwwwwwwwwww
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It works 4 me with usb&activesync
I entered 192.168.0.1 as an ip (my home pc) and it is ok

Video conference calls

Does anyone know how to make video conference calls with the Wizard? It should be possible with the hardware ... but does there exist any software? and how about the protocol standards, which one?
i would say no....
because the cam is on the backside of the Wizard, it's impossible to show yourself and you seeing them without using an mirror
MMaster23 said:
because the cam is on the backside of the Wizard, it's impossible to show yourself and you seeing them without using an mirror
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I was looking for technical answers ... not practical
:lol: it's obvious that you have to use a headset ... and cannot see the other party at same.
Video Conference
Rather it will be interesting if we can explore the option of using the HTC
Wizard's Camera for Video Capture and transmission, and View the other side (Remote end) on your Desktop.
Let the PocketPC/Camera connect via Wireless or USB to the PC/Network.
Am not sure if this approach is do-able and implemented yet...!!! .... but will be great, if some one can let us know, if some s/w is available to do precisely that.
Any one know of any such software or drivers... if available...??
Unfortunately the CPU isn't powerful enough to do this with any sort of quality. Hell, it's barely able to run Skype let alone video chat.
Re: Video Conference
varungl said:
Rather it will be interesting if we can explore the option of using the HTC
Wizard's Camera for Video Capture and transmission, and View the other side (Remote end) on your Desktop.
Let the PocketPC/Camera connect via Wireless or USB to the PC/Network.
Am not sure if this approach is do-able and implemented yet...!!! .... but will be great, if some one can let us know, if some s/w is available to do precisely that.
Any one know of any such software or drivers... if available...??
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there is a software for video broadcasting working well on the wirzard : pocketcaster
the homepage is www.comvu.com I think

use yr PDA as webcam for your PC?

http://www.warelex.com/products/webcam/Buy/
any one had tried similar software? I tried the one above, but halfway through.
i can get the image to PC via PDA, but i couldn't get it working with MSN/SKYPE... :-(
i can confirm that currently i am using 'Webcamer Plus' from www.ateksoft.com
it works as a charm! thx for the 3M pixel camera!!! all my friends are telling me i am using the best webcam they ever seen!
royalmail said:
i can confirm that currently i am using 'Webcamer Plus' from www.ateksoft.com
it works as a charm! thx for the 3M pixel camera!!! all my friends are telling me i am using the best webcam they ever seen!
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awsome software....just tried it and it works great....tho its nearly impossible to get the athena to sit right.
I saw this ATEKSOFT software and thought it was very clever however from this point on I am advising people not to buy it. Although the software looks slick the customer service offered by the company is appalling. What is more, if you post complaints on their forum about the quality of after service they get deleted. Not what I would look for from someone who wants my money.
Nice idea - very badly executed.
You can do it for free
Download mymobiler: http://www.mymobiler.com
Download VH screen capture driver: http://www.hmelyoff.com/index.php?section=8
Start mymobiler and activate your mobile camera
Grab the part of the screen you want with VH screen capture
Now you have a webcam stream which you can use in any program like skype, msn etc..
Look at this video as example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveANUBUIJM
Instead of using the microsoft remote tool use mymobiler. It is much faster.
PS: You need active sync to communicate with mymobiler
This is why I love this forum. I've learned something new today - I never would have thought of using the camera as a webcam, or about My Mobiler. I love My Mobiler, very cool app; note, it says you can connece via WiFi, too, not just Activesync. Interesting feature, when you activate "Mouse Curser To", and it essentially turns your mobile into a 2nd (or 3rd) display device for your desktop, with mouse and all.
One problem though, when I activate my camera I get normal video/pictures on the Athena, but only the foreground graphics (camera settings) on the desktop. The video is just a black screen. Any ideas?
Mobiler don't capture the camera
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This is why I love this forum. I've learned something new today - I never would have thought of using the camera as a webcam, or about My Mobiler. I love My Mobiler, very cool app; note, it says you can connece via WiFi, too, not just Activesync. Interesting feature, when you activate "Mouse Curser To", and it essentially turns your mobile into a 2nd (or 3rd) display device for your desktop, with mouse and all.
One problem though, when I activate my camera I get normal video/pictures on the Athena, but only the foreground graphics (camera settings) on the desktop. The video is just a black screen. Any ideas?
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Hello.
I have the same problem.
My Mobiler shows only the foreground graphics.
Is there a way to shows what the camera shows in the athena screen?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Funny, I'm getting the same problem with my new touchII. It still works with both an Artemis and a Pharos on 6.1 Rom's.
Maybe something to do with the camera software or that it is a 6.5 ROM?
Can anyone confirm this?

MSN messenger app with frontcam as webcam ?

Dear all,
I have been wondering if there is an application with messenger, which would have hermes frontcam as a webcam. After a long search I did not manage to find any apps like this. (with this i mean an app, which is running on the WM, NOT on PC).
However I came across one opinion about the thing that it could NOT be possible, since the heavy need of processing of the cam. I started thinking is that right, how much processing speed does it need to run a webcam with like only few pictures per second and a basic chat app running on msn messenger standard.
In my unprofessional opinion that should be possible, and if it is, why isnt anyone else interested in this kind of a thing, and why its not available.
Please somebody, do that kind of an application so I wouldnt have to learn WM PPC programming just because to do that.
or alternatively, prove me wrong.
/Henry
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
It is defenately possible. I use Web Camera plus and you phone will act as a perfect webcam. You can even choose if you want the front cam or normal cam.
http://www.ateksoft.com/webcamplus.html
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Thanks for the cool info!
Unfortunately that is working as a webcam for a messenger running on a PC only.. Not for messenger application running on my Hermes itself.
Is this impossible, is this going to be my Alamo?
/Henry
Ow, that i do not know. I'm not aware of an app that can do that, allthough i think it should be possible.
Maybe someone else can help you.
Im going to have to say that i doubt such a program exists or will exist.
MSN uses a lot of processing power to convert raw video into a streamed format.
Just because it is possible to do 3G video calls doesnt mean that MSN will use the same compression method.
What they'd first need to develop is voice calls through MSN. Not just voice clips.
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
on my wizard it does have a drop down for the different cameras it detects, however the wizard only has one camera, so i believe it may bring up both cameras on the hermes
hey, check out microsoft portrait, it has an app for both PC and PPC it is actually a development for voice/cam chat for portable devices, work on my wizard, however I don't have a hermes, so you will just need to try it and see, post back the results.
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
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Cool stuff! Will try it out as soon as I get a internet connection.. Just now Im located in Netherlands (against my will ) without internet subscription and with horrible dutch 3g data transfer pricing.
Reporting back from Finland! The land of the thousands lakes and stuff..
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sry for that.. just noticed that the file is actually under 1 meg.. so even I can afford that with stupid dutch pricing..
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
I tried to install it but i couldn't
I've got the last windows installer but the msi gives me a error message every time (i'm running a windows xp professional sp2)
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I will try that out later tonight. Which version of WM are you running? 5 or 6? and which version of the phone you have? ..or maybe you ment that its not installing on your computer..
I mean that is not installing on my computer, if I transfer the file to my hermes, it doesn't work either.
Does it work for you ?
I'm on WM6 (Schaps version 3.54c)

how to run the shift's camera?

Here's one stupid question.
Altrough the camera seems to be ok in terms of hardware drivers i can't seem to find any utility to start it neither in control pannel or anywhere else. I cannot use it in yahoo messenger or similar services. Can someone enlight me about that camera?
camera does work , but only in MSN messenger
I played with the camera too...
The only program that recognizes the camera, and uses it OK , is MSN (live) messenger.
X-Lite (Voip Software with camera option) usually detects any camera I got.
However, on the Shift, no joy !
Also, another program called WinTLV (Superb windows time lapse recording software)
does not see the camera.
Drivers...drivers...drivers.... c'mon HTC .. supply us with new ones
Py Software Active Webcam
killer_t, what are you trying to tell us?
Camera Works
The camera i test it with many programs and is working in skype msn and other programs automatically but i dont know how to start it alone i mean not through other programs
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killer_t, what are you trying to tell us?
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With the program Active Webcam from Py Software can use the build-in Shift camera.. You can do video and photo
yep the Active Web Cam program works. I've tested it yesterday without any problems. However the program can't facilitate the usage of the camera with other programs.
I want to run the camera alone to take photo, do you guys know any good software out there with good and clean interface which does this job?
I use Dorgem v2.1.0 it's a small and freeware software.
http://dorgem.souceforge.net
gdlc said:
I use Dorgem v2.1.0 it's a small and freeware software.
http://dorgem.souceforge.net
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it doesn't seems to have a preview windows, does anyone else know anything better then this?
It has. Click on the preview button
Nice little camera app. Thanks.
Yu can use this one too
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
I had the same problem of the camera showing as installed but not recognised by MSN, Skype, etc. So I just deleted the driver (from Device manager). Windows then rediscovered it and then it worked fine!
I have been using "cheese" on ubuntu. it has preview and can be used to capture video or still pictures.
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Yu can use this one too
http://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/index.html
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This one is more than capable. The one posted earlier on page 1 (can't remember what it's called) has been discontinued.
But the one quoted above is perfect just for using the camera for point and shoot, video or stills.
Thanks.
Edit>>Struggles a bit with video (low frame rate, a bit like video calling quality, or like video phone you see on the news!) but I haven't really had a good luck around the settings yet too see if it can be manually improved.
I have installed the Debut Video Capture Software on my Shift, but when I run it it defaults to 'screen' which replicates my screen image but when I click 'Device' the selection remains at screen. I can't see any options to enable my camera device.
Anyone know what to do next?
(The dorgem one worked fine so my Shift hardware is not in question.)
Camera software
I tried a program called "AMCap" that I had. (You will have to Google for it, I can't remember where I got my).
It seems to catch the video & audio and lets me take stills and such.

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