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Question about placing pocketmax on today screen

I asked this before also but got no reply. I am asking again. How can I place the pocketmax bar at the end of the today screen like this:
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Hi-
This program name is WisBar Advance Desktop you can find it from www.lakeridgesoftware.com when you install it you can see setup like enable/disable bottom bar, if you disable bottom bar you get more space on the screen and you can organize your today plug-ins.
Lakeridgesoftware has very useful forum for Advance Desktop therefore you can get more info from them

Rothstein - by pocketmax you mean PhoneAlarm?
In this picture it looks like the user is using Wisbar Desktop advance, which allows you to place Today screen plugins anywhere on the screen.
Other software that will let you do this is eXPerience and PPX.
If you're not using 3rd party software, going to your today screen settings will allow you to change the order of the plugins, so "move down" phonealarm until it's the last active plugin and it will be at the bottom of the screen.
To get a screen similar to this, try my TodayToggle software to hide the bar at the bottom of the screen, and position phonealarm at the bottom.
I've also written a piece of software that will keep it in the same position, ie fill the gaps between today plugin items, but it's not released yet so for now use ScaryBear's today spacer plugin to keep it aligned at the bottom of the screen.
Hope that helps!
Vijay

Yes I mean PhoneAlarm. And I am using Wisbar Desktop Advance. But I just can not find that option.

Can someone tell me where that option is at W.Adv. Desktop??

Hi,
You are going to lagh when i tell you how :shock:
Just hold down the stick (on the desktop) untill a menu popsup.
Now you can choose with or without Todaybar :wink:

Well no. I already laughed to myself as I was thinking that Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Advanced Desktop were the same softwares. lol .. Sorry about that.

Dear Friends,
I've downloaded WisBar Advance Desktop, but i am seriously facing problems with the setup of this software (This is the first time i face such problems).
I feel Lost with this software, i cant set it up, i dont know from where to start?
Should i have Wisbar Advance 2 as well, to let the Wisbar advance desktop Work preperly?
Is their any Written guide for these softwares? so as to be read carfully and followed?
Thanks for yous support.

Rothstein said:
I asked this before also but got no reply. I am asking again. How can I place the pocketmax bar at the end of the today screen like this:
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Hello Rothstein,
I made the screen. Vijay555 is right - I used WAD and put in PhoneAlarm as TodayPlugin. You can set the vertical position, so I just pushed it to the bottom of screen and "pinned" it to have it available on all vitual desktops.
Cheers

Yaarubaskar said:
Dear Friends,
I've downloaded WisBar Advance Desktop, but i am seriously facing problems with the setup of this software (This is the first time i face such problems).
I feel Lost with this software, i cant set it up, i dont know from where to start?
Should i have Wisbar Advance 2 as well, to let the Wisbar advance desktop Work preperly?
Is their any Written guide for these softwares? so as to be read carfully and followed?
Thanks for yous support.
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Hi!
I try to give you some advice on WAD:
1. There is no manual - it is just experimental SW in beta stage
2. Yes, you definitively need WA2 for operating WAD
3. Go to Lakeridge Homepage for further advice - they have a discussion forum for WAD: http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=ec8b5d222af079848918fa369be31d03
4. WAD installs itself as plugin into WA2 (if WA2 is installed before). After that you find all options for configuration when tapping and hold anywhere on the virtual desktop.
I hope this helps!
Cheers

START MENU HACK IS IT POSSIBLE

Ok,
I am not sure if any of you have switched your devices from Portrait to Landscape recently, but give it a try and you will see how the Recent Programs are displayed in Portrait we all know they go under the user defined icons in the start menu, but in Landscape they are all listed at the top alot neater than making your start menu list go across the screen. I searched the registry yesterday trying to see if any values changed with no luck. So can one of you guys like Buzz or Mamiach or someone take a look into it???
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I'm also desperately keen for a hack to fix this - it's very messy having the long list, and quite disorientating.
I put the whole registry into word and spent a fair bit of time seqarching for something that could have looked like a meaningful key - nada. It's probably hard coded

craigiecraigie4 - this is likely to be coded into the menu routine - when the list would create a menu > screen height, it reverts to the cuter menu.
I can't think of any way to hack into this without hacking the underlying routines. I doubt this is in the registry, but calculated dynamically.
Why not use smallmenu? it's better...
V

the ipaq 4155 I had used to do this stright out of the box, even without switching to Landscape.. that was windows Mobile 2003 (not SE).
It seems 2003 kept the most recently opened progs on the top hirizontally. 2003SE does this in the center of the start menu instead.
2003SE (on AximX50v)
http://65.185.35.123/dp_chobits_chi1_a.jpg
2003 (not SE on ipaq4155)
http://65.185.35.123/dp_miyu_2_a.jpg
I'll see what i can dig up.

vijay555 said:
Why not use smallmenu? it's better...
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Correction - it's MUCH better...

I am using WA with WAD, but I really like to limit my programs to necessity rather than GUI. I don't want to install to many programs on my PDA2K I like to keep it clean

alfredtv - if you're using wisbar, why do you need the startmenu at all?
SmallMenu is a fair alternative to wisbar if you only need what it offers.
I think the startmenu is near useless, and loathe it being there even when I don't need it. That's what prompted me to make my ToggleToday hacks
With SmallMenu correctly configured you shouldn't need the startmenu at all.
(note settings submenu, favorites submenu, special tools, custom icons on subfolders etc)
I took it to an extreme and made a toggle-able StartMenu, ToggleToday and new bar all in one:
However I've had a thought about a possible way to achieve the "mini-start menu". I might play around with an idea. No promises though, lots of other things to do.
V

I have read about your hacks on the other forums, and was thinking about trying them out.
Do they work with WM5 now??
I am using WA because their is no way to change the recent programs to a different location/remove them all together. I would not use them if there was a way to do this.
As I said before I prefer to not use additional programs, but at this point have no chioce. In WM5 M$ should really have thought about adding cascading menus to the Start button, that would have been great.

alfredtv - I haven't checked my hacks properly on WM5. The hiding the start bar bit does work for ToggleToday on WM5. It won't however hide the tray from the Today screen yet, because I don't have a WM5 device to test on.
If you're only using Wisbar as a startmenu replacement, give smallmenu a go. There is a free version. I've never had any problems with it.
V

So you want to hide your system tray?

Why? Because it useless and it ocupies a line of space that could be used by a today plugin!!!
TrayDisplay is what you need!!! Built with ATL C++, it comes in two files:
HideTray: that makes tour system tray invisible;
DisplayTray: that makes tour system tray visible!!
It makes a shortcut on your \Windows\StartUp folder so that everytime you reset your PPC, it will hide the tray!
When the file is run, it makes it's job and then end's so that it doesn't stay in memory.
This file is not a patch, but an application!
Only works with Windows Mobile 2005!
Hope I'll get some feedback
19/11/2005 (1.0.0.2)
Bug fixed: screen rotation, then execute TrayDisplay would make the height of the plugins to be wrong!
18/11/2005 (1.0.0.1)
First release!

Thanks !
Works very well on my M5000...

Sorry... It don't work on WM2003 SE.

Iomega said:
Works very well on my M5000...
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I've detected a bug when rotating the screen; I'll work on it later and post a new version!
MKS said:
Sorry... It don't work on WM2003 SE.
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I was expecting that...

Release 1.0.0.2
Fixed screen rotation bug.

I tried this program out on my Jasjar and it did not re-size correctly when the screen was rotated. This was on the .2 version.
FYI,
Boinger

Boinger said:
I tried this program out on my Jasjar and it did not re-size correctly when the screen was rotated. This was on the .2 version.
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It doen't! The problem is, since the application runs, hides the tray and resizes the plugins and then end's, when you rotate the screen you have to manualy run the app again :?

I just installed it and it created the icons in program menu and the HideTray in StartUp folder
But when I reset my Universal the TrayBar is visibile... if I then launch the HideTray icon from the program folder the TrayBar hides...
Why doesn't it hide at startup?

Can you make it work with 2003SE. I am sure there are lot of people will appriciated your work.

harryphung said:
Can you make it work with 2003SE. I am sure there are lot of people will appriciated your work.
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I think it's possible, i'll try to do that and post the results here later

It's works on my Wizerd (i-Mate K-JAM), the icons gone but the space not reclame back, it this normal? if so I think it is better if you can move the Unlock function to this line and the user name too so we can save space on the screen (optional). but if we can gain the line to be part of the screen it is much better option.
Thanks,

harryphung;
Have you seen my ToggleToday program for WM2003?
It's been there for 3 months!
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Also, here for the ability to relocate the tray and toggle fullscreen today and some other hacks (alpha release)
Using the app to ghost reminders on WM2003
V

I was sure I had seen something for WM2003 somewere!!

ei99070: I'll be updating it to WM2005 at some point, just too busy right now; my version has to be compatible with a couple of other programs I'm writing (a today plugin called VJTodaySpacer), and then making it both WM2005 and WM2003 is a bit of a headache. I need a clear head to get around it!
Are you hiding or resizing the child?
V

vijay555: Hiding!
I tried just resizing, but rotating the screen set it to normal size again... ShowWindow API seems to do the job correctly!
I assume your app is always running on background, correct?

ei99070 - is your app memory resident or one off?
WM2003 compatibility took some work because the newbar and sip are a little interdependant. WM5 is a bit nicer for that:
v

vijay555: true!! It as very easy to find the windows!
But I can tell you now, SIP and the Soft Button bar are independ on Windows Mobile 2005 to...
My app does it's stuff and closes, but that creates a problem: when you rotate the screen it resizes the area available for the plugin's to the original size, but mantains the tray hidden!

ei99070 I'll investigate it at some point soon. That's why I asked if you're memory resident, because polling or hooking the system, or possibly patching in memory, is the only way to prevent this I think. But they're quite bad solutions for stability and resources.
v

I agree, I think that hooking the rotation event will be the better way to avoid this behavior... :?

Great stuff!!
I whas looking for this long time!!

Tastbar skinning

Does anyone know of a program that allows you to skin the Taskbar? I have tried using Wisbar, but it uses too much memory and bogs down my system.
It would be great if there was a quicker program that used less memory. And I don't care about the other features Wisbar has, I just want to skin the Taskbar and the Start menu button.

I guess not!

mattucd said:
Does anyone know of a program that allows you to skin the Taskbar? I have tried using Wisbar, but it uses too much memory and bogs down my system.
It would be great if there was a quicker program that used less memory. And I don't care about the other features Wisbar has, I just want to skin the Taskbar and the Start menu button.
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But it is the skinning that uses the memory and slows down the device.
None of the other features of Wisbar Advance 2 are memory-intensive at all.
Any application that skins your device will be a memory hog, period.

By taskbar, you mean the top bar right?
One kinda solution that isn't cpu intensive is to use my VJToggleToday II app (in alpha release right now though) to replace the start bar.
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V

vijay555 said:
By taskbar, you mean the top bar right?
One kinda solution that isn't cpu intensive is to use my VJToggleToday II app (in alpha release right now though) to replace the start bar.
V
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Dude, that looks ****ing sweet; I have been waiting with great anticipation for it ever since I first heard about it!

Is it skinnable?

VJToggleToday merely shifts the Today Screen, allowing you to show your today plugins through - so I'm using my PhoneAlarm skin at the top of the screen to adjunct the start bar.
I haven't worked on VJEphemeris or VJSihaya (the more 'evolved' version of the idea) for months - I wrote them both as a proof of concept idea, but since then I've decided to put off further development until I feel competent to tackle all of the things I want to put into it. Both are evidently (overly) skinnable.
I've been working on a new app for a while, it's completely innocent, just a simple text editor, but it's a testbed for features that I'm going to be using in my new apps (ie a new skinning engine and GUI). That's (realistically) coming soon.
V

vijay555... what other apps do you use on your today screen? The bottom half looks like you havea last call and last email displaying on your today, correct?

itesla: that's an old plugin I wrote once, but it's not been released yet. It's called VJEphemeris. I'm taking a break from it while I learn some new stuff, so that I can add the new features I want to it.
It does show missed calls and previews received SMSs etc. There are many hidden popup menus etc, but as I said, that'll all change in the final version, if and when I get around to finishing it!
V

Hey Vijay, I have been using your ToggleToday program in conjunction with PhoneAlarm. I really like it, but there are a couple things that I miss: the clock, and the OK button.
I was wondering, would it be possible for me to use one of those third-party button programs like MagicButton or vBar, and then move over the signal status?
For the clock, I wasn't sure if there was any possible solution, unless PhoneAlarm has a feature that allows you to display it.

I believe PhoneAlarm has a clock feature built in now, you can certainly edit the skin to include one.
I never use the ok button in the corner, I use VJOkButt 100% of the time, and that's compatible with 3rd party task managers that use the ok button.
I don't quite understand about "move over the signal status". How do you mean?
Something to consider, which I have't tried but should work, is to use a phonealarm skin with transparency - if you leave a gap in your phone alarm skin, where the original clock is - you might be able to allow the original "start bar" to shine through the gap...
But anyway, PhoneAlarm does have a clock feature, I believe.
V

Remove Toolbar/Line with Calendar & Contacts on Today Sc

I no longer require the Toolbar/Line with Calendar & contacts on my Today Screen on my MDA. How can I delete that from my Today Screen?
Thank you!

Use dcinobar or vjtoggletoday see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54567

Thank you very much. That did it. Works AOK. 'My shout' next time.
Cheers

dcinobar is not working for me. I have a 8125 and im using wisbar advance. I also use phm traylaunch. When i click the dcinobar.exe file, I jus get a bluish bar across the bottom where my softkeys were. My wisbar theme is black btw. How can i fix this?

Anyone have the same problem??

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Anyone have the same problem??
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You need a theme that is larger to fit in the space. Try the default tsk or guava bubbles and you will see what i mean.

vjtoggletoday works great for me (Cing 8125). Dcinobar did not.
There is another thread that states to set your vjtoggletoday top bar value to 26 and low bar value to 1. Maybe this is the fix you are looking for.

Yep, there's an OS level "issue" where if you set the softkeys to size 0, the SIP pops up. It can probably be fixed with some misdirection. I'll have to remember.
V

meschle said:
You need a theme that is larger to fit in the space. Try the default tsk or guava bubbles and you will see what i mean.
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Thanx Meschle, that deff was the problem. 2 Things though: Is the task manager not suppose to get pushed to the bottom when dcinobar is used?? Does vjtoggletoday push it to the bottom?
Also, I use ThemeGenCE...but how can i make a today screen to fit the bottom??

Guys, VJToggleToday isn't finished yet, I've just not had the energy to get around to it. For now, I think it is supposed to move the tray down, but I can't remember. I'll try to devote some time to it soon, but I'm working mightly hard at work, then baby to take care of in the evening, and a new website to write... I'll try to work on it, I promise!
V

vijay555 said:
Guys, VJToggleToday isn't finished yet, I've just not had the energy to get around to it. For now, I think it is supposed to move the tray down, but I can't remember. I'll try to devote some time to it soon, but I'm working mightly hard at work, then baby to take care of in the evening, and a new website to write... I'll try to work on it, I promise!
V
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No problem, Thanx VJ

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Thanx Meschle, that deff was the problem. 2 Things though: Is the task manager not suppose to get pushed to the bottom when dcinobar is used?? Does vjtoggletoday push it to the bottom?
Also, I use ThemeGenCE...but how can i make a today screen to fit the bottom??
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Any answer to the 1st & 3rd questions??

I don't think VJToggleToday moves the tray, from memory. It's supposed to, but it probably doesn't right now - because when it is finished, it
will do something entirely different with the tray. For now, now idea, can't remember.
For themegen - just use a wallpaper bigger then 320 pixels high: normal wallpapers are 320 - 26 (for the menu bar) - 26 (for the soft keys). Bigger is better, to fill in the gaps now exposed.
V

Hi Vijay555
where can we download the latest versions??
Thks in advance

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PS The "latest" released version was VJToggleToday II alpha I think, on this forum.
Anything after that, use my Pensieve.