I just did a backup to SD and files are missing (Pix Mp3 etc...) now the only folders are the recycle bin (advanced explorer) Backup file 20Mb and "ignore mydocs" which is 0kb. The properties still says the space is taken up with stuff on the card but i can't get at the files. Any ideas or do i have to format the card.
I know SD card erasures has been thread before but I didn't know if the XDA2 problem was new. I'm using windows default theme, no-name 256Mb SD card.
Thanks
This is the first that hear about lost SD files on the XDAII. This has been bothering me a lot on XDA1 and WM2003 and there is no OS documentation on the Phone Edition of WM2003.
The interesting thing is that you do have some folders remaining in the card. Is the backup functional(Were you able to restore from it?) Most erasures completely erase the card and all the directories therein.
I did some research on the Radio Interface layer and the specific DLL's interaction with the OS. As a continuation to the following:
http://xda-developers.com/RIL/
I feel the problem lies in how the Radio Stack conflicts programatically with how SD cards are recognized by the device. So I wrote a few apps to trace how files are written to the card and when there is a new card ID generated by the device.
The erasures coincide with the new SD card ID in the OS and port/ layer. However, since the RIL and stack are built in and not documented I have not been able to isolate and resolve the problem.
How long have you had this card?
what apps do you have installed in the XDA II?
Has the erasure occurred before?
I've had this happen once and only once after uninstalling some software. I have a "viking 512MB" sd card.
I ejected it then put it back in then pointed the file explorer to it and all was back to normal.
once..
:twisted:
It happened to me once (i had xda 2 now for a month)...
I lost data which has no backups.. since I had this 512MB panasonic on all my Ipaq 3970,5450,550,2210,1910, and 4150 and it never fails ...
Now this xda 2 erased it all ... been 2 weeks now and still holding... but I am backung up my SD now once for while..
- my new problem, if my phone portion hangs, and softreset, I got stuck on O2 blue screen and need to hard reset.. last night it happened again and the pda portion still working , so backed up and hard reset...
I still has the 13Q protocol version, I heard someone fix this problem upgarding to 14 ?
xdaer said:
I just did a backup to SD and files are missing (Pix Mp3 etc...) now the only folders are the recycle bin (advanced explorer) Backup file 20Mb and "ignore mydocs" which is 0kb. The properties still says the space is taken up with stuff on the card but i can't get at the files. Any ideas or do i have to format the card.
I know SD card erasures has been thread before but I didn't know if the XDA2 problem was new. I'm using windows default theme, no-name 256Mb SD card.
Thanks
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I suggest if you can place the card in a Laptop or PC and run Scandisk.
There may even be a Pocket PC program that can do the same thing so you might try doing a web search for one.
Flash Format comes to mind:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=851
HTH
tried all..
:x
I tried all in my laptop, even Norton etc... really nothing left !!
I had the PCMCIA adpter for MS/SD/MMC/Smartmedia..
the FILES ARE there!!
Hi all, please be carefull the files are not ERASED they are there but somehow hidden!!! :!: :?: :!: , it happened to me on my Sandisk 256MB and after a week, things went back to normal and i had all my files accessable, i copied them to my PC and now after a month , the files disapeared again on my SD Card but if you check the CARD you can see that some files are taking space which mean again they are there but not accessable.
a week ??
I dont think I can last a week to wait until my sd files come up again ...
DO you have any quick fix on this issue like rewriting the FAT thru norton or other SW ?
I had checked with my laptop last time and my files really disappeared..
HI
the files are there on the card and they are hidden. They appear to be broken up into 12k chunks... is there any way to recover them?? I'm using a no name 256k sd card and the problem occured after doing a full back up. Incidentally the recovery file is faulty and will no work. I'm not too bothered but i lost loads of photos....
thanks
I have a 256Mb SD card that suddenly reported itself as having only 40Mb free when the total of stored files was only 16Mb.
I had to reformat to reclaim the lost space.
Has anyone else experienced this with SD cards and, if so, what it the likely cause?
well file explore dont really display hiddenfiles so the card could have all kinds of those
other file managers like total commander display all files
hi. I don't have XDA 2 but I think it happen to most most ppc 2003 OS because you are install some software that do not fully support or not support wm 2003. ( it happen to me on h5555, h5400,e405) So you need to hard reset a few times.
Sd problems continued....
High
Well i have a similar problem, but could solve it with a soft reset.
Now i have another problem..... I dont know how, but my card is.... i dont know how to explain. let me start from the beginning.
When i got my SPV M1000, i also got a new SanDisc SD 256 MB.
I installed cuple o programs :
PHM ( Pocket Hack Master ) main memory
Pocket Mechanic Main Memory
Stuntman Evolution Sd Card
Crazy Cart Sd Card
just to give you some exaples.
I then copyed the exe files and a X back up on my card. to have them with me if needed.
After biing happy for a half week ( experimenting with PHM and Pocket Mechanic) and a lot of playing with my device, all of a sudden, my SD card was wiped out!!!
It was all gone!!!!!
I tryed to repair/reformat/restor with pocketmechanic but nothing.
Everythin was simply not there anymore ( im talkin about 30 meg of data!!!
Active sync tells me " unavailiable " when i try to install to the SD card, and when i chose to do it anyway.... it works.
Files get istalled just fine on my card.
Now for the interessting part.
Crazy Cart just stopped working!!!
" Cannot find "crazycart" or one of its components.
Make sure the path and filename are correct and all the required libraries are availiable"
is the text i get when i try to start it.
Its happenig again...... its starting to ,lose files??
has anybody expirienced the same or similar ?
is my card broken eaven though POCKETMECHANIC TELLS ME ALL IS FINE?
Any help would be coooooooool
thanx
peace
PROBLEM:
Now, the problem all started when try to format the micro SDHC on the phone or on the PC with card reader.
Tried with differ format program also low level not worked.
DONT USE THESE!!! Waste of time!!!
SOLUTION:
So after doing some thinking about the situation, I figured that there was a problem with the card inserted and find the file EncFiltLog on it.
It is the WM 6.1 encription file. You can't delete, move files from or in to the SDHC.
The best way to solve this issue, as the hard-reset DOES NOTHING to fix this issue, would be to have windows hopefully find the connected device and format it. Here are the EASY steps which DO NOT involve using a dozen computers and has provided the same result EVERY time; which is a working on my 8gig memory in my HTC HD.
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select DISK DRIVE as the option on the on-screen popup on your phone. Don’t select ACTIVE SYNC. If you miss it, then go into your phone and press START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok.
2. On your computer, (USING A WINDOWS XP MACHINE), go into your "My computer"
3. A window for will open with two columns.(If not, change the view to "Group") We are looking at the RIGHT side right now. In there is has three categories, and we are only focusing on ONE of them. LOOK for STORAGE which should be the center category.
4. Click with right to the desired "Storage device; A: ; D: E;", it will take a minute or two depending on your computer speed and environment to populate your hard drive and connected memory devices.
5. You will eventually see your PHONE internal storage listed. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE YOUR PHONE INTERNAL STORAGE IS CORRUPTED!
***BE SURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS IN FACT YOUR PHONE AND NOTHING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE YOUR MAIN HARD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER STORAGE DEVICE WITH IMPORTANT FILES ON THERE***
****I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU FORMAT THE WRONG DEVICE***
6. Choose format and let it format the drive. This should also take a few minutes. Select FAT32 and name is whatever you want! Let this finish COMPLETLY!
**Your almost done**
7. Now you can copy, anything you want on it, but if you put again in to the PDA then the
EncFiltLog will come on again. But at least you not have to throw away the card,
you can use it again.
8. Finally my last comment:
If you want to speed up the card (.cab installation, copy, move ...etc.....)
the best way after all this work listed above, you should made a BACKUP from all your PERSONALITIES and
make a HARD RESET.
After it should speed up all the programs and processions with the card.
If you done then one IMPORTANT THING!:
YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER TAP ON THE CARD ENCRIPTION IN THE SETTINGS,
NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
Hope this helps you all out!!
BTW: I want to say thanks to XDA-FORUM (all people) to make my life easier
and to found the right gadgets to use, to play and enjoy it....
Wow - not bad at all for a first post!
Welcome to the forum!
Thanks for providing a solution!
krnkris said:
PROBLEM:
Now, the problem all started when try to format the micro SDHC on the phone or on the PC with card reader.
Tried with differ format program also low level not worked.
DONT USE THESE!!! Waste of time!!!
SOLUTION:
So after doing some thinking about the situation, I figured that there was a problem with the card inserted and find the file EncFiltLog on it.
It is the WM 6.1 encription file. You can't delete, move files from or in to the SDHC.
The best way to solve this issue, as the hard-reset DOES NOTHING to fix this issue, would be to have windows hopefully find the connected device and format it. Here are the EASY steps which DO NOT involve using a dozen computers and has provided the same result EVERY time; which is a working on my 8gig memory in my HTC HD.
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select DISK DRIVE as the option on the on-screen popup on your phone. Don’t select ACTIVE SYNC. If you miss it, then go into your phone and press START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok.
2. On your computer, (USING A WINDOWS XP MACHINE), go into your "My computer"
3. A window for will open with two columns.(If not, change the view to "Group") We are looking at the RIGHT side right now. In there is has three categories, and we are only focusing on ONE of them. LOOK for STORAGE which should be the center category.
4. Click with right to the desired "Storage device; A: ; D: E;", it will take a minute or two depending on your computer speed and environment to populate your hard drive and connected memory devices.
5. You will eventually see your PHONE internal storage listed. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE YOUR PHONE INTERNAL STORAGE IS CORRUPTED!
***BE SURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS IN FACT YOUR PHONE AND NOTHING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE YOUR MAIN HARD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER STORAGE DEVICE WITH IMPORTANT FILES ON THERE***
****I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU FORMAT THE WRONG DEVICE***
6. Choose format and let it format the drive. This should also take a few minutes. Select FAT32 and name is whatever you want! Let this finish COMPLETLY!
**Your almost done**
7. Now you can copy, anything you want on it, but if you put again in to the PDA then the
EncFiltLog will come on again. But at least you not have to throw away the card,
you can use it again.
8. Finally my last comment:
If you want to speed up the card (.cab installation, copy, move ...etc.....)
the best way after all this work listed above, you should made a BACKUP from all your PERSONALITIES and
make a HARD RESET.
After it should speed up all the programs and processions with the card.
If you done then one IMPORTANT THING!:
YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER TAP ON THE CARD ENCRIPTION IN THE SETTINGS,
NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
Hope this helps you all out!!
BTW: I want to say thanks to XDA-FORUM (all people) to make my life easier
and to found the right gadgets to use, to play and enjoy it....
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Yesterday it happens for the second time that my SD-Card gets corrupt again, the first time it happens with a 8 Gb SDHC Sandisk and now with a 16 Gb.! After a hard-reset.Didn't know before I read this post that this could happen ever!??
And indeed I couldn't write or read on the card or format it again, even with a cardreader!
Both cards are useless about €120,- thrown away, gone
Didn't know before I read this post, that this is an WM 6.1 encription issue. Never used or even tap it.
Now I format another 8Gb like the way you describe here, i hope that when i need to do another hard-reset i can use the card again!
BTW, its a little bit strange to me that there are so little reaction from other users here about EncFiltLog problem?
I hope that there will come a solution in WM 6.1 to prevent that b!llsh!t.
Thanks for the great support, i hope it realy works!
Nice post
I have one more question:
What may happen when I delete this encryption file? Is it possible?
P.S. Sorry for my english :/
Hi Everyone!
The best way, if you purchase a new card, to FORMAT at first.
Then you put in to your phone and try not to teke it out any more.
If you want to use it as USB reader the as I write in my first post
START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok .
In this case you can use the phone as a card reader.
It is speed up the file transfer vs. ACTIVESYNC.
If the card is not recognised ether way then,
because of the too much taking out - - put it back; went to faulty.
You can go back to the store for guarantee replacement.
The EncFiltLog is a problem only if you encrypted the card.
The solution to delete it and use as new card described in my first post.
If you put a new card in to the Phone then this file seem to be created by the OP system.
You can delete with format, but it will come back again and again.
krnkris said:
You can delete with format, but it will come back again and again.
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Your right, the file is still there again!
But I have also a question about a next( hope not) hardreset on my device!
Is it better to format the SD-card (with USB on the device) before or after the hard-reset to save the further use of the card?
Because in my experience you have to start installing everything over again, because the data on the card was anyway corrupt and useless.
It is NOT recommended to use the MS Windows Format command to re-format any SDHC card - it will format them, of course, but with the wrong cluster size, slowing access speed down and possibly causing other problems.
I would suggest to always use a tool like Panasonic's SD Formatter when formating any kind of SD card. You can get it here: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
-Valynor
Valynor said:
It is NOT recommended to use the MS Windows Format command to re-format any SDHC card - it will format them, of course, but with the wrong cluster size, slowing access speed down and possibly causing other problems.
I would suggest to always use a tool like Panasonic's SD Formatter when formating any kind of SD card. You can get it here: http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
-Valynor
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Also good to know, but does it also prevent or solve that EncFiltLog problem?
Is there no registry tweak to turn off or delete that W 6.1 encryption option anyway?
luckyuser said:
Also good to know, but does it also prevent or solve that EncFiltLog problem?
Is there no registry tweak to turn off or delete that W 6.1 encryption option anyway?
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No as far as I know.
Will creating a read-only, hidden folder called "EncFltLog.menc" on the card prevent this problem?
Phil_123 said:
Will creating a read-only, hidden folder called "EncFltLog.menc" on the card prevent this problem?
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What do you mean?How do you do?
HI folks, glad to find some peeps who are suffering from the same problem...
The solution here seems not to work for me, as I hard-reset my TouchHD before I found out about that encryption ****up...
Is there any solution that allows you to reformat the card?
Not to mention that I NEVER touched that damn encryption option as I really never trust M$ that far with my data... seems it got me Pwned anyways...
Anyone ever tried to Write M$, tell them what a bunch of wacky Ho's they are and demand a new miniSD Card from them?
sorry for my language but atm I mad as hell as I just lost a 8GB and a 16GB sanDisk...
I experienced a lot of bc during all the yaers messing with M$ stuff but this ****up ins unbelievable...
I had the same problem with my 8gb sandisk.
I would like to add that I was able to retrieve most of my files from the memory card using EASEUS Data Recovery Wizard Professional. You need to do the data recovery before attempting to reformat the card.
Hi guys sorry for messing around in your forum but this post is the closest solution to my problem. I cannot format or save anything to my 16gb sandisk card because of that bloody encryption file. Now the problem is that I'm a Kaiser user and I do not have disk mode in my phone, so has anyone successfully formatted their card without using disk mode?
one very quik question. Does this fix the problem for good? you can use the sdhc card with the phone or will it always end up with menc file?
card unreadable in one night
Yesterday, my sdhc 8gb card was working properly but in just one night something happened to it. In the morning, I came to know that it is not more being recognized by htc hd2. Every time I soft reset or hard reset the phone a message come up saying "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable? this will permanently delete any files on the card." when I click no nothing happens and phone keeps on working and if I click yes then the card is formatted in just 1 second. I tried formatting the card myself from phone format tool (there is format card tool in tools section of the phone) but it is showing only 30.61 mb instead of 8gb.
After reading this thread, I think the problem is with EncFiltLog. Actually I backup my phone and card yesterday with sprite backup. I also backup EncFiltLog on my pc. Now after hard resetting the phone I delete the newly created EncFiltLog file by the fresh WM 6.5 installation after hard reset. I deleted that file from my pc by using the phone card storage as disk drive instead of activesync and simply shift+delete the file from removable storage in My computer. After that I copied all the phone card backup (including EncFiltLog - old one) on the freshly hard reset phone. Now all of sudden in just one night phone sdhc card is not able to recognized by phone.
Moral of the story: Never backup EncFiltLog. Keep the newly created EncFiltLog file by wm 6.5 after hard reset and copy your all files and folder from card backup to phone card (excluding EncFiltLog) after a hard reset. Don't ever overwrite the newly created EncFiltLog.menc file with old one from backup.
Reason: I think WM 6.5 pairs the newly created EncFiltLog with its some key on phone internal storage. Remember how encryption works? I am talking about public key and private key pairing. I think WM6.5 pairs one key stored in EncFiltLog with another key stored inside the phone interal storage which is itself freshly created after the hard reset but when we copy the old EncFiltLog from storage card backup to freshly hard reset phone storage card, those key pairs won't match anymore and windows mobile 6.5 simply locks up the card.
it is my own opinion.
One more clue
Ok guys, I've got one more clue after googling and reading other threads on this forum. May be HTC is supplying fake 8gb sdhc card with hd2.
I've came on that conclusion because yesterday there was more than 5 gb space left on my phone storage card. In the night RSS Hub software has updated all the feeds and stored those feeds on storage card (I've set feeds to be stored on storage card). I think something has been gone wrong there. May be the actual capacity of this fake storage cards in far less than what is written/claimed on the card (i.e. 8gb). In the night as soon as the RSS Hub stored feed on the card, it somehow corrupted the card FAT writting its data on sectors of the card where it should not be.
Hence the card is corrupted now just showing 30.61 mb instead of 8gb. There exists no solution for this situtation till now. I've sent mail to HTC regarding this on their customer support page. Let's see what would happen now. I suspect either HTC or my dealer would say that the storage card don't come under warranty. Let's see now. I will update the thread soon.
My problem is the same.....
after HSPL I faced "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable?..." and after that I lost my mSD.
Format Storage Card didn't worked. it shows 30.61MB , Cluster Size: 0KB
also Clear Storage didn't worked...
System > Memory > Storage Card > Total storage card memory: Not installed
Is there any other way to fix this problem? because of my country, it is difficult to use HTC Service...
Hi there all,
I am pretty inept when it comes to this technology business so I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this or like this and if so could help me to figure out what went wrong, why and how to fix it a bit easier than formatting the card and hard resetting to reload/reinstall everything... sigh...
So I was just moving some files across to my sd card on my phone when it received a text and when the text was received the folder I was moving the files into all of a sudden had a load of extra folders with weird character combinations (some Chinese characters (not the weird bit) and some of those "forbidden" symbols)... I tried to delete them (about 56 of them) but I was not allowed... I tried to delete them by plugging the phone into the laptop again, still would not let me (this was when I found out you cant name a folder with certain symbols... if only it was me!) and I finally took the card from the phone and tried to access it via the sd card slot on my laptop... could not scan it but could open it... and when I tried to analyse it with computer management it would not go past the folder that this happened to and told me I had a corrupt folder... sigh, so the only thing I could do to get rid of all these extra mystery folders was to format the card using the cmd prompt... that worked thank goodness but I have had to spend all evening reinstalling and reloading everything... what fun... still at least its given me a clean slate so to speak... sorry for the long winded post... any ideas as to what happened?
many thanks
Consider yourself lucky - relatively.
My Xperia toasted a 16GB card to the point where it is totally inaccessible by any explorer system, either on the phone or a PC. Even the format command via command prompt fails (but thanks for that idea).
My replacement card is suffering too - I run Pocket Mechanic's scandisk utility regularly (once bitten, twice shy), and a couple of times now I have had a FAT table mismatch. Thankfully I've been able to copy all the files & folders off the card, reformat it and load the data back on again.
I'm also wondering what is causing these errors. In all my years of PDAs I have never known anything like it - the instability of WM and my Xperia is really disappointing.
I had this problem a few weeks ago . I guessed it was caused by a Chinese program which generated folders repeatedly by accident. Luckly, I could format the 16G SD card and restored all files.
Had Same problem
except it did not happen when receiving a text. I researched a bucn and stumbled across this http://www.datarestore4dummies.com/Index.html. I Purchased the data recovery software metioned on this website, Data doctor recovery. If you cannot get your card reader to read the card you will also need the cardexport software mentioned in the website referenced above. It worked perfectly. You can try the Data doctor recovery software for free to see if it can fix anything on your card but it will not restore anything until you purchase it. You will have to rescan which will take awhile, again.
on another note I have started backing up my storage card using cardexport (it basically makes your storage card while still in your phone look like an external drive) and a free microsoft tool called synctoy.
hope this helps
Jbf5333 thanks for the info re the apps that can help I will look into these just in case... cheers
Dear Fellow friends,
Yesterday there was some unexpected error on my HTC MOGUL, and, i had to hard reset my mogul. Then after that i am unable unbale access data storged on my Stroage Card.
When i go to Setting>System>Memory/ In that Storage Card it shows
Total Storage Card Memory: 7592 MB
In Use: 3522.09MB Free: 4069.91MB
also one more thing
When i open storage card through FILE EXPLORER one file naming
EncFiltLog.menc
ANYBODY OUT THERE PLEASE HELP, AS I HAVEN'T TAKEN BACKUP AND ALL THE DATA'S ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
Waiting for valued reply with solution.
try reading it in a computer, just don't format it till you get what you want off it.
sounds like something in the file system got messed when the card was being written too. Had this happen two or three times. Once a battery died when I was doing something, the other time I dropped the phone an it reset.
so backup!!! use microsoft myphone!!! use something!!!!
good luck though - sucks to loose 4gigs of info.......................