Two universals to be used as walky talky, using WIFI? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Would be great invention.
Would this kind of software be dificult to write?
(Question stolen from a Dutch PDA site)
Huib

Skype already has, imagine msn messenger + wifi walki talki

we are a bit behind in the uk but the us has what thay call push to talk on mobiles
very much like the dolphin 2way if you remember them

Only problem with skype is you still need internet access to 'see' to each other, plus unless you were on the same AP, I kind of guess this thread is more about peer to peer, without a comon AP, the converstaion would still be over 3g or gprs, which is kind of expensive
My 2 cents worth (with lots of ,,,,,s)
Paddy

steveuk said:
we are a bit behind in the uk but the us has what thay call push to talk on mobiles
very much like the dolphin 2way if you remember them
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PTT - or SMS for Voice - why the heck don't we have it over here. I mean how difficult is it to write and think of all the bandwidth savings the telco's would make. I really don't understand why this hasn't caught on over here.

darkblak said:
steveuk said:
we are a bit behind in the uk but the us has what thay call push to talk on mobiles
very much like the dolphin 2way if you remember them
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PTT - or SMS for Voice - why the heck don't we have it over here. I mean how difficult is it to write and think of all the bandwidth savings the telco's would make. I really don't understand why this hasn't caught on over here.
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But I was asking for direct connection, using WIFI.
Huib

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AIM on the Wizard

Ok, so since T-Mobile and Cingular (here in America) want to ban the use of AIM 2.0 on the Pocket PC, and instead, use their service (which charges 10cents an IM), I was wondering if anyone has worked on a hack to fix this.
Basically, both companies have done something to the software, in which when AIM is installed, it will not allow you to sign on. Please note... I am NOT looking for a replacement suggestion for AIM, I am looking for the AIM program itself. There has to be SOME sort of way around this tweak, and I am truly hoping one of the many genius minds that browse this forum would be so kind enough as to help.
do you some sort of error or it just doesnt send
have you tried agile..? it has all the instant messengers
Hello!
This is what I use, and I don't seem to get 10 cents a IM.
Just unzip the cab and transfer it to your device and install!
*Edit* I am in the USA also, just so ya'know.
Agile messenger would be your best bet.
It acts a service and send text messages to your phone instead of the actually message. Just as long as you have a text plan you should be fine.
I prefer Verichat to Agile. The only draw for Agile right now is that it's free, but it's beta. The beta version of Agile likes to crash a lot. Verichat is on th expensive side, but I think it's worth it.
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
They charge $20 for that chunk of crap?!? That thing barely functioned under 2003 3 years ago. :lol:
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Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.
drdingo21 said:
Agile messenger would be your best bet.
It acts a service and send text messages to your phone instead of the actually message. Just as long as you have a text plan you should be fine.
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i thought agile uses internet?
I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.
drdingo21 said:
I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.
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i am pretty sure its internet because i see no sms charges for when i used aim last time *edit* and it also shows stats for how much kb has been used
mightymegit said:
Hello!
This is what I use, and I don't seem to get 10 cents a IM.
Just unzip the cab and transfer it to your device and install!
*Edit* I am in the USA also, just so ya'know.
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Awesome!! That works amazing!
Is the start bar inverted to get it to work here?
Because I remember trying aim before and the thing wouldn't work right but the start bar wasn't on the bottom like this one.
Is it hacked or something?
Very nice though. Thanks!
drdingo21 said:
I was under that impression also. Then I read around on the internet and people were saying that it does indeed act as a gateway to thier servers and sens txt messages back and forth.
Now after your reply and I checked to make sure, I'm finding both answers...So I'm not sure anymore.
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My son and I both use Agile on our 8125's with a data plan. Agile useage goes against the kb/data, NOT the text messaging. You have to be connected to the internet to use Agile -- either through WiFi or GPRS.
We've NEVER been charged for text messaging using Agile.
Great! I can cancle my text message plan.
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guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.
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basically if there is a ppc version of America Online.
guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
guyver2077 said:
95scort said:
Go here, aol.co.uk and download the aim version for mobile. It's free as compared to installing the EXACT SAME VERSION from the U.S. aol.com which they want $19.99 for. The installer has capabilities for installing on a wide range of pocket pc's, as well as ones with MIPS and ARM processors.
The link once again is aol.co.uk
Good luck!
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thanks that works great... is there a mobile version of aol? (not aim)
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Not sure what you're asking for, maybe someone else will know.
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basically if there is a ppc version of America Online.
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There is but it won't work on WM5...
Unless some one can hack it like that above AIM program to move the WM5 start bar to the bottom when the program is active.
Let me break it down for you gentlemen...
Basically what's been happening (here in the east coast of the US at least) is Pocket PC phones have been becoming increasingly more powerful. Obviously, T-Mobile and Cingular are no dummies to waves, so they started to release some of their own. But in an attempt to garner more money, they've been releasing their own versions of AIM, which basically charge the user a text per message (sent or received). In addition, they basically disabled the old AIM 2.0, which was (and still is) highly popular amongst Pocket PCs that aren't branded, or simply don't have a phone equipped in them.
That button on the button that says "Sign On"? It's not there anymore. Neither is the File or Edit menus. There's something embedded in the registry that doesn't allow the usesr to use this version of AIM... which is why I created this topic to begin with.
Now as I stated originally, I wasn't looking for alternatives to AIM 2.0 on the Pocket PC... I like this version a lot. Back when I was using my unbranded i-mate Jam, I suppose I've gotten inclined to using this version more. I've tried Agile Mobile, but it is still way too buggy for me to want to use as my end-all be-all to AIM. And it's missing a lot of features I've grown used to with AIM 2.0. Other IM clients cost money for something I think should be freely distributed.
To anyone using an i-mate K-Jam, or a QTek 9100... this post simply doesn't apply to you. You picked up your phone unbranded, meaning you have no restrictions from your carrier. And I envy you because of that. But since I'm cheap and I'm getting my Cingular 8125 for $50, I'm trying to figure out some workaround to the situation. Hopefully someone can figure out a hack soon.
MightyMegit ... how certain are you that the program you posted doesn't use texts? Does it use data? I don't have a Wizard yet (hopefully within the next 24 hours), so I'm not able to test it out myself.
Anyway, thanks guys for your help, but I really want my AIM 2.0 back. I wish all you developers luck!!!
thanks for the clarification. i started using the aim 2.0 yesterday.
No wonder i noticed to menus or sign on options. What i do i select "stock quotes" or w.e and that signs me on.
It looks just like aim on pc and has aim sounds so i like the look of it. There just isnt options

AIM 2.0

I have downloaded and Installed AIM 2.0. Is the messaging on it free? Like will I bet charged $.10 a message for a message on Cingular?
You're using either WLAN or GPRS for connecting to the AOL service, therefore standard GPRS charges may apply ...
based of of what he just said, then no. It just costs what it cost you to go on the internet regularly.
Well damn. I wanna use Agile, but I've already used all my 7-days trial on it and i dont wanna buy it :\
How about iMov? It is free ...
Junner2003 said:
How about iMov? It is free ...
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and advt. supported .
any other good alternatives ??
look around for aim 2.0, it really is the best im messenger out there, trust me
sobuze said:
and advt. supported .
any other good alternatives ??
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Really, I don't understand why a lot of users don't bother using the forjum serach engine. I've published a FULL rondup of ALL these utilities, answering ALL questions like this in the IM Bible ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295677 )
All in all: use the forum search engine!
weres a lin or something 4 aim 2.0...not the 1 from the aim site cuz it dont work
jawnsixteen said:
look around for aim 2.0, it really is the best im messenger out there, trust me
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You didn't even read my 1st post? Lol.
The bad site on AIM 2.0 ... it is AOL only and has too much other junk!
Also:
AIM 2.0 from the US site is commercial - if you download it from the UK site it will be free of charge!
I did love the AGILE MESSENGER but this overpriced stuff now ... - ... no thanks! That killed my interest! IM+ is not running properly: I can send in a chat but I can't receive anything, so, this one just does not look save to me! Running several IM clients on my WIZ is not really comfortable and needs lots more recources too. The ICQ messenger won't connect! Even though I entered user name and password correctly it keeps telling me that there is a USER NAME / PASSWORD missmatch, so, to hell with this one too ... )
In the mean time:
I am sitting and waiting until something as good as AGILE MOBILE MESSENGER will appear on the market for a lower reasonable price ... and I wish everybody would avoid that overpriced product!
Yes. I loved agile also. If I was as good at programming as I am with the knowledge of computers, I would make myself an IM client that would be based kinda like gtalk or something. No adds, or anything.
But anyway, I was checking Cingular for their Text Messaging plans, and I found unlimited everything, text/picture/video to anyone for $19.99 so I purchased that and I don't think AIM 2.0 will be a problem anymore ha
Hmmm,
19.99 a month? For that money you would have paid for the AGILE MESSENGER within 2 and a half months, LOL. <just kidding>
I need help with aim 2.0...I dled it...and installed it and at first it was working fine...then I soft reset...and now I fo 2 it...and it has my sn already there...so I go 2 buddy list...and online is gray and I can't get that tab up but...list set up is on and I can access that...so how do I get online?...I guess that's the problem...
stuff said:
You didn't even read my 1st post? Lol.
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lol i was talking to the post behind me
personally, i like im+ better
p.m. me if u want a link to it
does aim 2.0 have an away ability?...were u can put a custom away? if so please let me kno

Windows Mobile: exotic software needed

Hello,
Need following software that I could not find:
1. Call conversation recorder (tried Resco won't work properly - almost impossible to hear the person you are talking with, I suppose it uses microphone to record, isn't there any internal way to do it?)
2. ****list software to block calls and messages from unwanted numbers.
My machine is HTC Touch Cruise, Windows Mobile 6.0 Pro
Much obliged in advance for any clues.
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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Well it's most upseting then for the phone like that. I suppose many consider it business phone, and businessmen should be most interested in recording their calls :|
l3v5y said:
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
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I know that, you gotta push and hold that damn button all the time and that is not that easy and most uncomfortable :|
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
I live in Europe, Lithuania, so it doesn't concern me whatsoever
NguyenHuu said:
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
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Very uncomfortable I should say, I was looking for much more automatized software, at least Resco adds date, number and some other info I suppose. And by the way does it work if you're talking with bluetooth headset on? I guess not...
l3v5y said:
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
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I doubt it...
Resco Audio Recorder automatically records phone calls (I remember because I didn't know it was on, so I filled up my storage with phone recordings).
However, it is quiet because on most WinMo hardware, you can't record incoming voice. It's quiet because it's recording from the mic (where you talk into), which I guess picks up a bit of sound from the speaker (where you listen when you talk). Maybe try talking on speakerphone all the time? Haha, I'm sure that won't work in a business setting, but it's something.
can "Call Firewall" block messages (SMS) as well? I guess not. And that is even more important for me. Anyone knows software with this function?
juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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There is a program i have tested on wm6 it's called LivePVR if you PM me i can give you a link
Try PMRecorder. It's fully automatic, and it's supposed to be working quite well.
Hi,
Vito audioNotes does a very good job on this. Good quality sound and small files.
Cheers,
Dirk

Wm 6.5 Voice commands

Hi, does WM6.5 come with voice commands or does it need another bit of software like 6?
Thanks
Dan
dreaddan said:
Hi, does WM6.5 come with voice commands or does it need another bit of software like 6?
Thanks
Dan
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..6.5 has no voice command software on board; you'll need a third party one...
cyron_at said:
..6.5 has no voice command software on board; you'll need a third party one...
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The HTC Pure WinMo6.5 comes stock with voice command.
That is one thing I lost by "upgrading" to a cooked ROM
and by the way, the Voice Command is useless. My Sanyo in year 2001 was about just as good. In other words, don't sweat it.
Now if somebody can get the iphone 3gs voice control dump into a cab that can be used with Win Mo 6.5, that would be cool.
Thanks i thought so but some news articles said otherwise.
I better see if ms voice commander works on 6.5 before upgrading.
i know it may be poor but it allows me to call ppl on the handfree.
Dan
dreaddan said:
Thanks i thought so but some news articles said otherwise.
I better see if ms voice commander works on 6.5 before upgrading.
i know it may be poor but it allows me to call ppl on the handfree.
Dan
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I've got it runnig on 6.5, I assigned it to long press send and it works great.
Better clarity than on my Fuze.
dreaddan said:
Thanks i thought so but some news articles said otherwise.
I better see if ms voice commander works on 6.5 before upgrading.
i know it may be poor but it allows me to call ppl on the handfree.
Dan
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4 out of 5 times, the voice command would come back "Please repeat"...wtf!
In other words, handsfree soon turned into unwanted frustration.
On the 3gs, 5 out of 5 times it picked the right contact to dial.
Ways to go before I recommend voice command to anybody.
I've not had that problem - maybe 1 in 20 but then ive not got many names that are similar.
Only home and moe get confused..
Did you run the us or uk version of vc?
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I've not had that problem - maybe 1 in 20 but then ive not got many names that are similar.
Only home and moe get confused..
Did you run the us or uk version of vc?
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US version...that was part of wi mo on ATT PURE.
doh - didnt notice your from the us..

Speech Text Messaging?

Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?
I don't know of any specific apps that do this, but I'm sure they're out there considering Bling and Google Maps have this technology.
I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso
jdep1 said:
I dont recomend trying to text while driving & dont like applications where you use voice commands but you should try this one
Code:
http://vitotechnology.com/voice2go.html
(not free but you could try the tial) it lets you control your whole phone by voice and you could add custom commands but im not sure if you could set it up to reply to sms.
ps: by the way nice to see another member from el paso
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Thanks for this...I will give it a shot. Not only is it nice to see another member from ELP but also nice to see another person with a TP2!!! I have only seen a couple here in town!
This would be a very cool feature! I am interested in this also. Can anybody help out with this?
microsoft tell me
i had it on my phone ported from i think a samsung device.
it didnt fit too well with the screen resolution and whatnot, but it worked.
although it doesn't work if you have an accent or if you want to send messages to someone who has a rather unusual name
i went to a At&T store for help with something with a friend, he had and still has a verizon blackberry curve but anyways one of the associates there had a blackberry and showed him a whole buch of apps he got from a certian website (dont remember what it was) and one of them was a talk to text app and it work almost perfectly. ive been searcing for an app like that for windows mobile ever since then and that was almost 2 yrs ago!!!! i also just found out a few days ago from my girlfriend that theres a app like that for her iphone. i seriously dont know what microsoft is doin but they need to step their game up and to all the developers out there, you need to beat them to the punch!!!
Read email to you - what app?
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
miked79928 said:
Ok, so my city recently passed a huge ban on cell phone use while driving. I know I can have my phone reac any new message to me wehn it is received and I currently have it set up to do so. However, I have heard of other phone coming with a speech to text feature. Is there a wway to get something like this on the TPS where I can speak the reply to a text and be able to send it that way?
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bparent said:
What app are you using to have your HTC read email to you?
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He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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Didn't pick up on the SMS part. Looking for an app to read/speak email messages(non-SMS). Especially, would be nice to be able to filter by sender, subject, etc.
Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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I use TellMeText Version 1.1.0 on my Rhodium Touch Pro 2. It installs and works okay. If the installation crashes, the best thing is to redownload it until it works fine. Also try the app on different ROMS.
I have used it on ARK_N's ROMS as well as on Leo Cell ROMS.
Make sure (I think) you install BlondieSoft_MobileCertificates cab prior to the intallation of the TellMeText cab.
Hopefully this should help.
Why not sooner.
If someone can rip the install from the Samsung Intrepid I think we can get something going.
The only other option is Vlingo and it is buggy at best, you can search the forums and people have had spotty success with it.
This could be a real difference breaker at this point in time in the Mobile Phone wars, I don't know why someone hasn't jumped on it and capitalized, tons of apps already use voice recognition (bing, google) for driving directions, I don't know why in a world where people are dieing left and right from txting while driving someone hasn't jumped on this.
antny said:
im interested in this tell me app so someone respond to miked79928 please!!!
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dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.
maddb said:
dude it doesn't make sense why your phone does that, i use it all the time and it never gives me problems and its such a great app.
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The tell me ap works for some and not for others.. I believe it has something to do with the carrier you are with. That said.. you guys are probably better of going over to the tell me thread and reading through that to figure out how to get it working on your phone. I personally gave up. It would install fine on multiple roms I was running and as soon as I would to go speak a text to it it would just hang then give me some error.
Regardless... no sense in having multiple threads about the same thing!
Do a search in the Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps forum and you'll find it.
miked79928 said:
Ok, so I found a few cabs for TellMe, but they all crash shortly after launching. Any ideas?
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do you mind postin the cabs bro? i wanna see if i get the same results
TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.
hx4700 Killer said:
TellMe does not work for AT&T customers on their network on anything but BlackBerry. I ran a packet trace and the packets leave the phone but there is NO response.
WiFi works fine but how often are you on WiFi on the go?
You need to install microsoft voice command FIRST then this. Just search, the cabs are posted.
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wait so i have to get the voice command then find the tellme cab??? im confused haha
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He's talking about having the built-in MSVC read new SMS messages to him
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OK, I must be missing where to find this on my TP2.

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