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is there a util for this ?

Hi,
Is there a App like Remote administrator for PC
for the XDA2 ?
something where i can see on my XDA2 LCD a Screen of my PC
desktop and interact with the PC from screen taps on the XDA2.
open folders, start programs, mebe even xfer files etc etc

yeah vncview.exe
works pretty much like normal vnc between 2 computers

One I use is Pocket Controller from SOTI, very good.

I use NetOp Remote Control. Super!!

why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools

ArcticCat said:
why dont u just use the terminal services client that comes built in in your xdaII and remote desktops on your xp machine??
no need for 3rd party tools
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Hi ArticCat, would you mind to make a step buy step explanation on that?
:?:
Thanks in advance.

This works only on Windows XP Professional, NOT on XP Home.
Works with a Wifi card and in the USB cradle, didn't test it yet with an USB BT dongle since mine is in back-order or with GPRS.
PC
- make sure you have administrative rights
- Right-click "My Computer" and choose Properties
- Choose the tab Remote
- activate Remote Desktop (Allow users to connect remotely to this computer)
- the logged on user automatically has access to the pc. If you want to add additional users, click on "Select Remote Users" and add them.
XDA
- goto Programs->Terminal Services Client.
- fill in the name or ip-address of your pc and hit "Connect"
Works fine, but I find the resolution of the XDA II to low to be practical.
Think this would work much better on a Toshiba e800 with 640x480 res.
Enjoy,
Jos

Thanks a lot for the fast response.
Looks like there is something missing, I get a "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection setings, tap setting" message.
There is not very much to configure undet the settings tab, so it's a bit frustrating.
Any ideas?
:wink:

I have no connection configured, just the XDA II in the cradle and it works.

Thanks a lot!
To my surprise it worked as you mention once I tried again. Couldn't figure out what was wrong the first time.

i used the SOTI and yes i can see the XDA screen on the PC.
But i was looking for the same util but the other way round.
i wanna see the DeskTop screen on the PDA

You need this prog: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/downloads/pocketpc/remotedsp_eula.mspx
Allows you to show the display of the pda on the pc-screen and control it with mouse and keyboard.
And it's for free!

yes thats wot the UTIL dose i have now.
but im looking to..
display of the pc-screen on the PDA and control it

This is what you want....
http://www.soti.net/bot.asp?Cmd=Products
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...onId=0&catalog=30&txtSearch=pocket+controller

Arthur,
Let's get things clear.
You want to control the pc from the XDA?
Just use terminal services client on the XDA in combination with the remote desktop feature of Windows XP Pro, as described in the earlier postings.
Or use VNC, you can download the client for the pocket pc here:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
and the server for the pc here:
http://www.realvnc.com/download.html
Jos

hi jos yes you got it
one problem i have is when trying to connect via GPRS i get the msg NO MODEM AT THE OTHER END ?

Arthur, did you get this sorted in the end.
I was already running the server program on my main pc and downloaded the pocket pc vnc veiwer. Cant get it to work so far tho, is there any settings you have to change on the XDA?

Setting up VNC or Remote Desktop

I've set up LogMeIn, but it's left me dissatisfied. I don't like the fact that it's website based, and it's a little slow for my tastes.
I've attempted VNC and Remote Desktop but, sadly, it's a little over my head. I'm by no means a noobie, but I've never dabbled in remote desktop type work before.
Is there a simple tutorial for setting up VNC or Remote Desktop clients for the Wizard? I could really use one. I've been trying to search for it for a few days, and I turned up absolute zilch.
Thanks!

both VNC and remote desktop would need to be enabled on your workstation / server / computer and make sure that either the required ports for VNC (port 5900+) and Remote Desktop Connection (port 3389) and open your firewall or the windows firewall is turned off.
if you are trying to use VNC / RDP, using your GPRS/EDGE connection then there's more tweaking which needs to be done ... this would entail you to go to your router/firewall and open ports 5900 (VNC) and 3389 (Terminal Services / Remote Desktop Connection) and point these ports to the right IP Address (which would be the IP address of your workstation).
if you have any questions about remote access just email me back ... i use my XDA Exec, Qtek 8500 and all the other PDA's i have to access my network at the office as well as at my clients all the time ... both through VNC and through Remote Desktop Connection ....

what program do you need on the wizard to do remote desktop?
right now i can remote desktop to my work computer from my laptop at home. is it similar? thank you.

There should be a remote desktop client already installed on your Wizard. Look in the Programs folder for "Terminal Services Client". It works pretty much the same as it does on big Windows.

As dumb as this is, I really need a step by step to help me out on this subject.
I'm unsure what is needed to get the Remote Desktop Client working. I have XP Pro. I have a "Remote" section under my home computers system properties. However, the one tutorial I could find asked me to go into Add/Remove Windows Devices and apply some sort of setting there. Upon doing so, I was asked to insert my Windows XP CD which . . . I don't have.
If I don't need that CD, I am open to doing either Remote Desktop or VNC. Whichever is preferable, I guess. I don't know which is more full-featured, which one is quicker, etc.
So I need help getting started. What do I do?

Hey Dr.Other
Okay here is a step by step to enable remote desktop on your computer ( much better then VNC in my book but I am sure others may disagree..so in the end its personal prefrence...I just like RD (remote desktop) better cause I can stream music if I wanted and its also encrypted (I think I read that some where) any way here it is for remote desktop.
Guessing you are useing Windows XP Pro
Right Click on MY COMPUTER ( on your desktop)
From the menu that opens up Click (Left click) on PROPERTIES
You will see a few tabs in a window called System Properties
Click on the REMOTEtab
Check the Box under the Remote desktop area that say ALL USEERS TO CONNECT REMOTELY TO THIS COMPUTER (its not in caps)
Next click on Select Remote User and click ADD
TYpe in the users name (what ever name you use to login with)
Hit Okay till your back to your desktop
Phone:
Start\Programs\Terminal services Client
under servers type in the IP address of your computer ( Hint try it locally 1st if you have wifi in your house and then click connect) its a bit difficult to naviagate and the colors are not the best ( which leads me toa question ...look at the bottem for the Q ) but it will do...I have hcked email looked at my fav places for a book name I had bookmarked but forgot etc. its really cumbersome but in teh end it may get the job done. Though Fair warning your icons and stuff will be bunched up on your desktop computer once you RD from your Phone
RD to your phone..... What ? can you remote desktop to your phone ?
I think so...if you enable terminal service port on the device you maybe able to connect to it from your computer ...but I am still trying to figure that one out
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)

geekserver said:
Question for every one: IS it possible to get better colors when connecting to your home computer via terminal services on your phone ? ...they look like 256 colors (eww)
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Even if you could it would slow the process down so much it wouldnt be worth it. I wouldnt even have a background on as it slows to a crawl.

3G remote desktop

hi.. is any one manage to connect to desktop pc from his athena from the internet?? ( no logmein)

dekyprio said:
hi.. is any one manage to connect to desktop pc from his athena from the internet?? ( no logmein)
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yes, many athena users use terminal services/remote desktop to reach their desktops or servers. You must be able to get to port 3389 (or other port used for remote desktop) on your home or work network.

rermote desktop
can you explane me how i can do that or please email me [email protected].
thanxs very much

remote on athena
the proplem is that i run vista ultimate and i`m new to this

You can have a try on Gooer
I use Gooer Remote Desktop Service and it works fine.

remote on athena
thanxs but it does not work for me

dekyprio said:
thanxs but it does not work for me
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Firstly log into your router and open port 3389.
It is best to test your connection with Wifi first as at least then you know you're halfway there!!
On Vista Ultimate (which is the same as mine) enable remote desktop connections to your computer. This is found in control panel/system/remote (tab) on xp - should be somewhere similar on Vista.
You also need to enable a password on your computer's login page.
You should now be able to log into your pc via wifi by entering your pc's IP address (found by entering IPCONFIG on the command prompt) on the remote desktop mobile display.you will need to enter your login name and password below this. There is no need to enter a domain name.
If you have a static IP address you should also be able to login this way over 3G. However if your connection is dynamic (such as with Virgin Media) you will need to go about it slightly differently. register with www.no-ip.com and they will provide a free static address for you. No-ip runs in the background on your Vista pc and you simply login on your pocket pc with the address they provide (rather than 192....laadeedaa) - for example (yourname).no-ip.biz.
Everything should then go hunky dory.

remote on athena
thanxs very much for the interest.i`ll try it.

i've looked everywhere, seriously. -remote desktop

any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!

ok i got it going.
first go to the computer you want to connect to and go to control panel / system
click on remote, enable remote users
go to start menu, run. type cmd
in command write "ipconfig /all"
take note of your ip address
on your phone go to remote desktop,
computer = your ip address
username = (go to startmenu, control panel, user accounts) use one of those names.
password = blank unless you have a password.
domain = i left blank.
connect full color unless it doesnt work for you
if you can connect and you get a password error
type the error you get inot google and you should get a fix as your first link.
try that.
blam, remote desktop, it's awesome.

Nice how-to...
this is the most succinct tutorial on how to do this that I've seen. I'm still having trouble, though. I get the "Cannot connect. Likely reason are: 1 the remote comupter is not set up for this. 2. Reached the maximum number of connections. 3. A network error occurred while connecting."
I have set up the XP PC, & taken down all firewalls. I only have one user account and it has a password. I've even tried using Hamachi with one of their VPN ip addresses (awesome and free for pc2pc). I 've combed trhough my router settings too, and tried to clear everything there, too. I can RD from an XP laptop, so ti seems to be something on the unit, to me. I've also setup file sharing w/ Total Commander (it's served my purposes amply).
I really have googled & googled & googled. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'd be grateful for some ideas.

Have you enabled the RDP on the host computer?
Right click my computer
Properties
Remote
Then enable allow user to connect remotely.

Will only work on XP Pro, or Vista if you choose to allow older clients which they scaremonger you against by saying it's less secure.

Danke!
I've been scared away from Vista for the usual "new" OS reasons, but perhaps it's getting to be time for me to haul my old conservative back-end into the modern world.
Thanks so much for taking the time!
(and to Biohead: yes, I followed the instructions I lauded so vehemently.... ???)

you're running vista?
and you haven't been able to connect still, right?
sorry i could walk you through xp, but man vista sucks, i wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

i'm setting up remote desktop on my iphone
hahaha totally referred to this guide

and it sucks, so i'm sticking with vnc
man, i miss my exec/universal

dutchschultz said:
any detailed how to guide?, i can do it, i'm fairly tech savvy, so i just need to kneed out a few things. maybe if you caould start from the beginning and i can see where i went wrong.
logmein.com works, but i want something more personal, just bewtween the computer and my phone. somerthing that looks good and scales full screen preferably.
please guys?, point me in the right direction.. all the posts just keep saying to search and there's lots of info, but there's no step by step guide.
thanks guys!
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524

orb3000 said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294524
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you, my friend, are awesome

A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Edit Sorry posted this in the wrong thread! Will leave this post up however just in case someone finds it useful

echolock
Many thanks for the above have been searching everywhere for a fix to this. I am the same as you T Mobile (UK) and can't connect.
Could you give some additional advice as how you got the RDP to work.
For the record I can connect by Wi-Fi and by using a PAYG sim from a different carrier. However, I am on a contract with T Mobile and don't want to carry a different sim just to use the RDP.
I have installed both apps. I can make a connection from zaTunnel on Port SSH:24 to the freeSSHD server (SSH - listening on port 24). Other than adding a User and changing the default port to 24 there are no other changes I have made in freeSSHD.
Under the connections tab in zaTunnel I have left Network: Automatic with the other settings relevant to make a connection.
Under the ports tab of zaTunnel I have
LP> 3389,
IP/URL . IP of the desktop I want to connect to of 192.168.1.10
>RP 3389
When I the start the Remote Desktop app under my Windows Mobile 6.1 it indicates connecting the fails as before.
Also forgot to mention freeSSHD is running on the desktop I want to connect to.

Sure thing.
When you run Remote Desktop under Windows Mobile, make sure you connect to "localhost" NOT to the IP of the desktop you want to connect to.
Your other settings seem correct to me.
To attempt to explain a little, basically what happens is as follows. For simplicity's sake I will have three machines, your phone, your SSH server and your RDP server (although the latter two can be the same).
On your phone:
1) Remote Desktop connects to localhost on port 3389.
2) zaTunnel is listening on localhost on port 3389. It echos all commands sent to this port out on port 22 over your cellular connection to your SSH server, also providing details of your RDP server and port.
On your SSH server:
3) FreeSSHd receives the commands sent over port 22 and is told by zaTunnel to convert them to commands sent to your RDP server using port 3389.
On your RDP server:
4) Remote Desktop receives a normal RDP request over the normal port from your SSH server.
5) Responses are sent to your SSH server.
On your SSH server:
6) FreeSSHd receives the RDP responses, and sends them back to your phone over port 22.
On your phone:
7) zaTunnel converts the commands sent over port 22 back into RDP commands sent over port 3389.
8) Remote desktop receives a response from zaTunnel and thinks it's connected directly to an RDP server on localhost. In actuality it's connected to your RDP server using an SSH tunnel provided by zaTunnel and FreeSSHd.
Hope this makes sense, I'm not very good at explaining this!

Ah found another problem. The IP of your desktop you say is 192.168.1.10 - this is a local IP address so will only work on your local network.
Go to a website like http://whatismyipaddress.com/ from the machine you run SSHd on to find out what your current "external" IP address is. Bear in mind that most home broadband connections have a "dynamic" address which is allocated to you and might change from time to time - you can always use something like http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ to set yourself up with a static hostname, and run a program on your machine which updates your hostname with the correct IP address every time it changes. Some routers have this functionality built in.

Thanks for the quick response and explanation.
Between posting and reading your reply I had worked out the RDP app needs the localhost or the IP 127.0.0.1.
I had come back here to post, so others would know in future.
Your other point you raised about the desktop IP. I have used this only in the ports tab on zaTunnel. The connection tab has a proper mydomainname.com address. (Provides email and a webmail interface).
Anyway, can connect now and thank you again in solving this for me. (If your in Leeds I will buy you a beer).

Ah yeah the 192.* address would work on the ports tab, fair enough. Might be worth pointing out if others read this that this is only the case if the machine you're trying to RDP to is on the same local network (or the same machine) as the machine you have FreeSSHd running on.
But good to hear you got it working Now hopefully T-Mobile won't cotton-on and decide to block port 22 too...

Start service on XP from Win Mobile?

I would like to be able to start and stop a service on my home media PC which is upstairs, running XP Home, preferably using my Windows Mobile (T-Mobile Compact 4 with shaks cooked ROM). The PC is wired to the network and the mobile connects via WiFi. Any idea if this is possible?
Bit more background - I have ps3 media server running on the PC, but sometimes need to restart and I'm too lazy to run up and downstairs each time.
Mortscript maybe?

First convert your XP home to Pro and install RDP.
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/...le-remote-desktop-in-windows-xp-home-edition/
Then just use your Remote Desktop Connection app in WinMob to connect via WiFi or 3G.
(To connect via 3G forward the RDP Port 3389 on your router to your computer)

OR
If you have Outlook, setup a rule that when you email yourself, with "Restart PS3 Media Server" as the subject, it will open a batch file on your drive.
In the batch file, you'd have the following lines: (open notepad and type in this)
taskkill /IM "XXX.exe" (Change XXX to the application's file name)
"C:\Program Files\PS3 Media\etc.exe" (change this to the proper folder and file)
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Save as C:\RestartPS3.bat

Thanks for the suggestions, I like the look of the first idea, I think I'll give that a go. Any issues you know of with changing Home to Pro?

I don't know of any issues personally as I've never dealt with XP home. Did you try it out?

XP Media Center also has RDP.
If you can't get your hands on a new XP, look into something like VNC like Real VNC and then google the sourceforge .net vnc viewer
Or
get a Telnet client and telnet into your pc. That'll give you a command prompt.
Or an ssh server and client like pocketputty
Or gotomypc
etc etc

l3it3r said:
OR
If you have Outlook, setup a rule that when you email yourself, with "Restart PS3 Media Server" as the subject, it will open a batch file on your drive.
In the batch file, you'd have the following lines: (open notepad and type in this)
Save as C:\RestartPS3.bat
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I've done some creative outlandish stuff on my home network, but I hadn't ever thought of the e-mail fix. Simple instructions, and a simple fix. I'll be using that for a fix in the future for the newbs who always call needing a fix.
Granted most of them already have remote desktop so I can just fix it instead of spending 45 minutes walking them through how to fix it.
I'm just posting to give you a kudos to your idea. Impressive.
Bummer you can't thank posts in this forum... the forum I use for web design stuff lets you do that.
Anyways, thanks!

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I've done some creative outlandish stuff on my home network, but I hadn't ever thought of the e-mail fix. Simple instructions, and a simple fix. I'll be using that for a fix in the future for the newbs who always call needing a fix.
Granted most of them already have remote desktop so I can just fix it instead of spending 45 minutes walking them through how to fix it.
I'm just posting to give you a kudos to your idea. Impressive.
Bummer you can't thank posts in this forum... the forum I use for web design stuff lets you do that.
Anyways, thanks!
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Thanks for the kudos! I do outlandish stuff for a living and I find that it makes for an interesting day