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Any way to remove error dialog on startup?

After a soft reset, my phone hits me with an error dialog saying that voice command cannot be found etc etc. The reason for this is because the storage card hasn't been read yet. I'm curious to find out if there is a way to put in a delay so that the storage card has time to load, if not even a way to remove that annoying nag screen will do just fine.
Anyone have any ideas?

Install voice command to main memory, not to storage card.

bamse said:
Install voice command to main memory, not to storage card.
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Thanks but that's just a workaround... I don't really want to do that because it's not just voice command, there are other apps that will make this happen as well.

Not all applications will respond well to being installed to the storage card.
I think I remember reading somewhere that you could change the order of the shorcuts in the startup folder as a workaround. Haven't tried it myself, though.

I got it. Used a program called SKTools to change the order and now it's perfect. No more nag screen!

storage card nuked wihtout warning

i just got my storage card nuked and i think it was by "save attachments on storage card" .. its cleanswept except for some attachment dir and a WMDRM dir.. anyone experienced this before?
Im curious if there is a way to save my storage card like file recovery for windows!?!? I've had smartphone for 2 years and never experienced such (nor used the mail portion) .. its really a drag if this is normal wm5 behavior.
anyways two questions:
- is a way to generally clone a qtek9100 with all regs and storage
- is there a way to recover lost files if nothing else is written to car? (so called quick formats)

sardaukar said:
- is a way to generally clone a qtek9100 with all regs and storage
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Backup apps:
SPB Backup - www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Sunnysoft Backup Manager - www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
Sprite Backup - www.spritesoftware.com/pocketpc.php
Or, otherwise, copy all files over, and export the registry using Tascal Registry Editor or so. Restoring would likely be iffy, though.. e.g. overwriting the Pocket Outlook database and such - if it can be done.
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- is there a way to recover lost files if nothing else is written to card? (so called quick formats)
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Yes - there's dedicated software for this. I got one from Sandisk that came with their 1GB Ultra III compactflash card that I've got in my camera next to a 2GB memorystick.
http://www.lc-tech.com/software/rprowindetail.html

as for the nuking, I assume now it was something todo with windows mediea player and device syncronization which hadnt fully initiated ..
anyways, when you tlak of recovery what do you mean, as the link you post leads to pc software.
u put sd card in camera and mount as usb and run pc software to recover?
sprite backup seems to be very nice and feature rich.

I just had the exact same thing happen to me...was just left with the attachments directory.
The good news is that the SD card shows that there is 250MB used so i know the files are there...i just cant see them. I'm trying that SD program referenced in the last post to see if i can at least see the files.
Unfortunately, all my backups are on the SD card itself. I hadnt copied them to my HD.
wow, this is nuts - there's some serious bug lurking around!

Update on this.
I was able to recover the files with some data recovery tools. The one in this thread is useless - its meant for media files only.
I still wonder why this happened. Either way, I'm switching back Outlook attachments to main memory for a bit and see what happens.

d'oh
Well, let us know which data recovery tool you used - might come in handy for others

yup same thing happened to me... and same way, attachments on storage card
space was still missing but the files were too
didnt bother recovering though as i had backups luckily

The same happened to me twice! The first time I thought it was due to FAT FS, so i reformated it with FAT32, but it happened again.
I do have my attachements at SD, as well as I save pictures from camera to it.
BTW, the same thing happened once with my wife's iPaq 2490 (attachement at SD).
As for fixing: just use standard MS Windows checkdsk (or use Check now from drive options) if you have a card reader. It saves all files to FOUND directory (but, unfortunately, it renames it to strange names, so you'll have to find out what is what)

If this happens to you, FinalData Enterprise and EasyRecovery Pro are known to recover files very well. They will find all files and filenames. They wont restore the top level folder names but if you dont have many, you can change them yourself. More important to me were the lower level filenames and the integrity of those files.
Most of the other trial recovery programs i used couldnt do what these two products could. They typically just showed a bunch of .chk files or else tried to recover media files only.
I still want to know how this happened and if there's a way to replicate the problem. There's some nasty Outlook bug lurking around that needs to be fixed!

same thing happened to me. just realised that i have 300 meg os missing disk space that i thought had gone for ever.
can anyone recommend a freeware tool ?

Wait, my new 2gb card died 2 days ago! The Wizard won't even find it, and my PC finds it, but all the stuff on it is missing except for a couple of directories and it won't let me format it. It has to go back to China now. I'm so pissed off.
Anyone know a card recovery app?

I know the ones i mentioned earlier should work.
Someone said chkdsk may work...try that although i worry that if it recovers cross linked files (most of them are), it'll dump a bunch of useless chk files on the card.

i tried checkdisk and it didn't seem to retrieve any files. grrrrrrrrr.

Well maybe it s a bug which occurs on march 14.... because that same thing occured to my sd yesterday while I was using tt5 on the road... ;(

sardaukar said:
as for the nuking,.....bla bla.....
sprite backup seems to be very nice and feature rich.
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I'd choose SPB Backup. According to my knowledge the WM5 compatible version of Sprite Backup does not have the self extracting functionallity yet. (weird because that among other features made Sprite Backup stand tall above all other backup/clone solutions).
Hope they will include this self extracting feature soon.

2 GIG Mini SD Speed
Just got mine from Singapore yesterday. I did not format it as it came already formatted. I have noticed that playing video divx / mpg1's are very slow versus internal memory. I did the reg edits for cache size but found no real changes to media playback. Anyone out there playing with media playback on a Cingular 8125?

mike freegan said:
Wait, my new 2gb card died 2 days ago! The Wizard won't even find it, and my PC finds it, but all the stuff on it is missing except for a couple of directories and it won't let me format it. It has to go back to China now. I'm so pissed off.
Anyone know a card recovery app?
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From experiance with this same issue on a 1gb, the card eventually starts having block failures. Fortunatly the place I bought it replaced it with another. Whatever nukes it, perminatly damaged mine. Hope in your case it didn't damage it.
I'm wondering if this is related to the reboot issue some of us are experiancing... and if it has something to do with pocket outlook or pocket windows media player 10.
Grey

Block failures are a hardware fault.
The only way you could induce one with software would be to rewrite the same location more than ~1m times, which would cause it to fail - flash has a limited lifetime, although the limit is very high.

So let me get this straight:
REGARDLESS of the BRAND of the miniSD card, the Wizard HAVE an ISSUE whereby, if MEssaging Attachement is saved to the card, the device CAN RANDOMLY nuke the card?
I haave the same issue with my ATP miniSD card (and they're considered one of the most reliable one), but instead of nuking it, it just doesn't show the file OR...worst... rename the card to "Storage CArd 2".

Depends on what people are running into.
If you're getting a corrupted card BUT you can reformat it, then it may be something with the storage card attachment thing. (I personally run with this turned on and have NOT had it happen)
If, however, the card CANNOT be reformatted - that is, its TOAST - then its NOT a software problem. The card has physically failed. Since the 2GB cards are quite new, this is entirely possible.
One other possibility - if you have a card that won't reformat first try writing a few kilobytes of zeros to it using psdwrite. If you can THEN reformat it, then the card was scrambled - it did not die.
Using "r2sd" to dump ROM images to the card has been known to interfere with reformatting to full capacity due to the internal data patterns that show up in certain places with certain ROMs. Writing a block of zeros to the front of the card will fix this, as it will wipe the data that is being misinterpreted.

Move Windows FOlder to Storage Card?

Hey guys, I have a 2gb card in my MDA, with basically nothing on it. WOuld it be possible to move my Windows folder there? Or would this mess my phone up? The main reason I want to is because I am trying to change my ringtone, and put a new ring into the Windows folder, but it says I do not have enough space. Also, how do I assign my text messages to my storage card?
Brian

i very much doubt it would run if it was possible, wouldnt it be far better to free up some space and re-install apps etc onto the 2gb card instead ?
Most programs that run all the time require to be installed onto the main memory otherwise it causes problems, reason being is its slower to use removable memory rather than internal memory, plus if you removed the memory card while an important program was running, all hell breaks loose.
Im sure you can only store attachments on storeage cards, not the text messages, their encrypted in outlook i think (which uses internal memory).

I tried putting smartkey onto my storage card, but it didnt work, and so I moved it back, and now whenever I come back from sleep, I get an error saying that smartkey.ee cannot be run from the storage card, even though it isnt there. It still runs however, from the main memory.
As for the text messages, I am not using Outlook, I am just using regular SMS.
Any ideas?

phoenix2099 said:
I tried putting smartkey onto my storage card, but it didnt work, and so I moved it back, and now whenever I come back from sleep, I get an error saying that smartkey.ee cannot be run from the storage card, even though it isnt there. It still runs however, from the main memory.
As for the text messages, I am not using Outlook, I am just using regular SMS.
Any ideas?
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try deleting \Windows\StartUp\smartskey.lnk

I tried, but Its not in there?

Check your notification queue using an app like MemMaid or SKTools.
You can't move the Windows folder to SD - it's in ROM and is basically unmoveable. If you're feeling adventurous you could try making your own ROM, but it's for the foolhardy.
Use something like MemMaid to move selected windows dlls to SD, to gain considerable space. Always install any program that permits it to the sd rather then internal storage.
V

vijay555 said:
Check your notification queue using an app like MemMaid or SKTools.
You can't move the Windows folder to SD - it's in ROM and is basically unmoveable. If you're feeling adventurous you could try making your own ROM, but it's for the foolhardy.
Use something like MemMaid to move selected windows dlls to SD, to gain considerable space. Always install any program that permits it to the sd rather then internal storage.
V
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I second the suggestion of moving certain dll's to the storage card. MemMaid works great for that.
You will free up a lot of space.

Will memaid automatically do it, or will I need to select certain dlls? If I need to select them, which ones should I move?
Brian

It'll guide you through those it recognises as being moveable... no particular knowledge required. But check out brighthand as well, they have a guide on doing it manually. But that's just for background theory really.
V

Can I stop Camera app asking about Storage Card?

I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si

Izzard-UK said:
I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si
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Usually the camera only asks about storage card when you have just inserted a new card OR you have the "network" folder enabled.
Now unfortunately the camera is only capable of saving to one of two locations at any one time so:
If the view network folder is NOT enabled you will be offered:
"Main" or Storage card" and once set it will remember your choice and not ask again.
BUT with Network folder enabled and a storage card inserted you will:
be asked if you want to use "StorageCard" every time you start Camera, but in camera tools you will only be offered "Main" or "Network" even if you chose the card. It will not set to storage card even if you said you wanted this when camera started.
So, if you want to use main memory with a storage card inserted and don't want the silly question about using storage card each time, then you must disable the network folder. (Use e.g. Resco or Total Commander to do this - forget now if regular File Explorer does it)
Equally if you want to save to storage card you will also need "network" folder disabled otherwise it will save to Main memory even when you say yes to Storage Card on start up of application.
The default setting for the Network folder is disabled, so if you are having problems it is likely to have been enabled by using the likes of Resco or Total Commander.
For those that like the underlying detail:
Specifying your own location in registry=
HKLM - Software - HTC - Camera - Image - SaveFolder - xyz
where xyz is your folder name, but note this folder will be added as a subfolder of the following (in this case storage card) auto added path: /Storage Card/My Documents
Note that setting a location or name other than the defaults will result in problems viewing pictures via the application, though they can be viewed by locating and opening files individually.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image]
value of "Saveto" = 0 will save images to main memory
value of "Saveto" = 1 will save images to storage card
Mike

Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.

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Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.
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Yep, that happens. Though if it just does it a few times it's more likely due to, to put it crudely, it being temperamental about recognising the SD card and storing the registry key number successfully. If it persists then it's more likely due to the network folder issue.
Mike

Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)

Izzard-UK said:
Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)
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Mmmm Pesky thing because in theory if it recognises the card it should not ask each time. I had assumed you had network folder enabled already because with that enabled it definitely will ask about storage card every time. So I would reset to disable network folder. In this mode it should ask about storage card on the first occasion only and once you have chosen ot should not ask again. But as a poster above found this took four goes before it settled down.
So I can only suggest that the act of disabling the network folder again might settle it down and it will only ask you once about storage card.
I;m afraid though this type of problem is rather common and folks just find one day it's fine next day it isn't - in your case I hope the changing of settings to on and off again for network folder may reset things, can't say I'm holding my breath though.
Mike

Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)

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Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)
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So not only do we have a nanny state but a nanny ROM as well! Saint Tony's bound to be behind it somewhere.
Mike

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?
EDIT: I install Resco Explorer but I have no idea where the network folder is or what to do.

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Moving Mail to Storage Card & Other Mysteries!

Has anyone successfully managed to move the Inbox to the Storage Card yet?
The usual registry hacks that have worked on several previous devices don't seem to be working on the HD2.
It is quite happy to let me move attachments to the Storage Card through Inbox-Options but as soon as I hack the registry to set 'PropertyPath' to move the Inbox and reboot, I end up with a folder in main memory called 'Storage Card' and the actual Storage Card renamed 'Storage Card2'.
If memory serves, this can happen where the card is slow to be mounted, but I'm puzzled why it will happily send attachments to the card and then throw a hissy fit when I ask it to do the same with mail.
Was the issue of the speed of mounting the card ever solved anywhere else? Can't find it if it was!
Any help gratefully received.

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Has anyone tried moving their Inbox to the Storage Card? Someone must have, surely?
A simple yes it works/no it doesn't would be very helpful - at least I'd know whether it was worth trying to find a solution
Thanks in anticipation

Still keen to know whether anyone has successfully managed to move their mail store to the Storage Card.
Also, has anyone managed to turn off autolock? I don't want to have to enter a pin every time my device wakes. I have tried tweaks and reg hacks and neither seems to give me the behaviour I want/expect
I appreciate that there are differences between Manila and Sense, but surely the underlying registry entries can't be that different? Many of the expected keys exist but they are just ignored by the device - odd.
Or is it just me...?

unfortunately you are right.
I experience the same issues in trying to redirect pictures I shoot to storage card\My Documents\My Pictures.
Like you say there appear to be some differences here and there.
I'm looking but I hope somebody with some more knowledge finds it fast
DicE

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It is quite happy to let me move attachments to the Storage Card through Inbox-Options
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Hi Gustopher, how and where did you do that? I am unable to find where to tell the HD2 to put attachments on the Storage Card even after days of searching for it, resulting in less and less storage on the device, even when all mail and messages have been removed.
Thanks in advance.
Crazy...
Edit : O.k. just found it . . . . . . duh, what a good night rest can do for ya.

Another week's worth of XDA brains on this since first posting, so worth a revist:
Has anyone managed to get their mail onto the storage card?
The few who have responded so far seem to see the same issues as I did, but is this the case across the board?
If there is indeed a problem, does anyone have any bright ideas how we can fix this?
(Or is everyone too busy saying how much they love/hate the HD2 and how they are going to shag it/return it??)

Hi
Given the small amount of storage memory this is an important issue. I haven't tried it but was going to use Sktools to do it. Will try later. Hope it an be resolved.
Paul

I am pretty sure you won't get any joy through SKTools - I have already responded to someone else who'd tried it and wondered why they had a renamed Storage Card.
I just had a go through Memmaid - I was also looking at the possibility of changing some startup items to give the card a chance to load - but wound up having to hard reset.
It's a bugger, to be sure. I am increasingly convinced that the card is slow to load, but what to do about it...?

I would also like some assistance in getting this resolved. Has anyone been successful here??

here...
Find the Email icon in the main start menu (or it may be in a subfolder depending on your rom). Open it and the 'select an account' screen will open. Hit MENU, OPTIONS, go across to the STORAGE tab and tick the box that says 'When available, use the storage card to store attachments.'
After a loading icon all attachments existing and in the future will be stored on the card. You will notice an increase in available memory on the device immediately.
I assume this is what you meant, if not I don't know the solution!

i have an idea to a solution
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641930

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Find the Email icon in the main start menu (or it may be in a subfolder depending on your rom). Open it and the 'select an account' screen will open. Hit MENU, OPTIONS, go across to the STORAGE tab and tick the box that says 'When available, use the storage card to store attachments.'
After a loading icon all attachments existing and in the future will be stored on the card. You will notice an increase in available memory on the device immediately.
I assume this is what you meant, if not I don't know the solution!
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This isn't the preferred method because it creates a folder with an encrypted name. Also, it does not move the mail, just the attachments. But, it's better than nothing.
Generally, I want to save the mail and attachment in my desired path on the SD card.
As the OP stated, all the old methods don't work.

I addressed this problem in this thread, due to the order the hardware starts up after a reset i doubt you will find a solution to this problem without rewriting the email software not to start untill the SDcard has been powered/detected