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How to make Sprite Backup 3 work with XDA2??

can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot

Only after I bought Sprite 3.0 I found out it doesn't work properly. In my case, V3.0 erased my SMS after a restore! Solution? According to Sprite SOftware, they working on it. In the meantime, this is what I did:
For the first Backup
- Make an executable (.exe) backup file and save it to Storage (permanent storage on your XDAII). It will be a slightly bigger file
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail option and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Prgogram Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup. You need to do the executable file only once
For daily backups, save them to a storage card.
- BEFORE you run the back up (UNselect e-mail opetion and click on the (+) sign next to System Data, then again on (+) File System and again on (+) Program Files.
- UNselect Arcsoft box
- Then run the backup.
To Restore
- Run the executable backup file first
- Then do a soft reset
- Run Sprite and restore form your last daily backup file
It anly sound akward, but it worked for me!
PS: You will loose your e-mail account settings and all its folders' contents. But I found that I could live with this. It's better than having to reinstall all software to your XDAII again!

..like walking on thin ice!
hey michael..thanks for the details.. but sprite backup seems to hate xda2..
is there a way to back up to pc with this workaround? can i use the same approach but pc as the destination?
any news when sprite will release the new version?
anyone knows of another backup sw that backs up xda2 to PC?
thanks
Hawk

I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
Are you sure you are not using ver. 2.X which did have the SMS restore problem?

I've tried with my xdaII , the sms inbox was restored OK, but I have some problem after the backup restored. I never received SMS anymore.
don't know why....
so I never used it again.

i'm using imate with rom 1.72 and sprite backup v3
Hey Brian
Can u please give details about yr device, e.g rom etc. and installed applications.. i never got to to work on the imate. please give some details on if u were able to backup to pc?
anybody know of any program that backs up imate to pc?
thanks
Hawk

On my MDA2 SpriteBackup crashes! (automatic backup timed at 23:55 everyday) Looks like some file is in use and Sprite is not able to backitup and the whole backup process is stopped. So on my MDA2 backup has NEVER finished!
I'm using backup in ActiveSync - I have it set to automatic mode - everytime I put my MDA2 into the cradle, it synchronizes with outlook and then does FULL BACKUP.
And I'm sure this kind of backup works well - I restored my MDA many times after hardreset from ActiveSync's backup and everything was always OK.

hawk -
Your second question first - Of course you know that ActiveSync can backup your PPC to your PC (Tools -> Backup/Restore). Also, Sprite Backup ver.3 can backup to your PC as well - it can install a tool in your system tray to run the Sprite Backup PC Service.
I had version 2.X of Sprite Backup and experienced the SMS service failing to receive messages after a restore. With ver. 3.0.0 I have actually restored my imate after an unintentional HR and SMS worked perfectly thereafter.
Now, for my configuration:
imate with ROM Ver. 1.72.00WWE
1GB SD card
VITO Voice Dialer
PHM Registry Editor
MS PocketStreets
m-possible Backgammon
HP Mobile Printing
Zendrui PocketZenPhone
Syntact GameBox
Sprite Software Sprite Backup
Sprite Software Space Detective
Sprite Software PocketMon
Spb Pocket Plus
Mobimate WorldMate Pro
MS Cubicle Chaos
Laridian Pocket Bible (with 10 Bible translations)
Laridian Daily Reader
Illium Software eWallet
Total Commander
Adobe Acrobat Reader 1.0
A.Khogo tAgenda
SSnap
IDiff
I also have the drivers for the Stowaway keyboard installed.
It's pretty well loaded!

hawk said:
can someone please help me to get sprite back up v3 to work on my xda2. my aim is to backup my device to my PC. it either freezez my xda2 or hard resets it!!!
thanks a lot
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What version? I'm using spritet 3 v1517 without issue. Email and SMS restore correctly. The only conflict I've found is using GPRS monitor.

I had the same problem with the earlier versions of Sprite Backup too. After restoration, my XDA will have a complete blackout on SMSs. So i have decided not to install it again.
BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.

BRosenow said:
I hate to be arguementative - but I am using Sprite Pocket Backup v.3 with my imate and it is working perfectly. It even restores my SMS!
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Likewise, I have no problems on my Xda II - mine does an automatic, self extracting backup every morning at 08:45 to my storage card. They always come back completely, sweet as...

sg_r1 wrote:
BRosenow, is your Vito Voice Dialer the PE version? I can't seem to get the non-PE version to work tho.
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Yes, it is Voice Dialer PE v3.0.

Sprite Backup
I'm using it with my XDA II and no problem. I restores everything as it was. Using Sprite Backup V3.0.0 build 1517.
I don't backup to my PC but to a SD card.
Regards,
Mark

whats the reason to backup to a pc using something like Sprite
over just using activesync's pc backup restore option ?
i understand the sd card backup but not why people use it on pc's

If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
Maybe that's the reason. I agree with you. It has no additional value.
Mark

I use Sprite to backup my imate to my laptop from time-to-time, just in case something were to happen to my SD backup (loose the SD card, backup files become corrupted, etc.). Considering the little time and storage space it takes, what's the harm in having a little insurance?
And I use the Sprite backup to PC because it takes about 2 min. for a full backup . . . can ActiveSync do that?

nah
with ms you get what you pay for since activesync is free is slow can be
a full backup prob take about 15->30min

i prefer to use the same program 1. to backup to sd card & pc for compatiblity reasons in order to exchange files if needed, 2. sprite does exe files 3. activesync may not restore to a newer rom properly.
the funny thing is some people are using sprite with no problem, others like me are just going thru hell to make it work.
on sprite's support they mention something about stopping some processes in windows\startup\
tried that too, didn't work.
can anyone diagnose the problem with the inconsistency of the results from one person to the other and definite solution?
Hawk

Maybe the ROM version that differs! Sprite Backup works for me fine. See my ROM version below with my signature.
My startup folder contains:
AFlashman, BTTrayCE, CFlashMan, CheckAutorun, ChgDFLnk, IA_Caller_ID, MMREG, NFlashMan, poutlook, stk, Symantec Antivirus, TFlashMan
Mark

Markutah wrote:
If I'm not wrong ActiveSync backup from PC gives problems with restore after a ROM upgrade.
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Well . . . you need to be VERY selective of which files you restore after a ROM upgrade anyway. You cannot do a full restore (from a full backup) after a ROM upgrade, because .exe and .dll files (and others) will be restored, replacing the newer versions. This leaves the device in a state that is somewhere between the two ROM versions and will cause all sorts of problems.
You should only restore documents, email and personal databases - not system data.

Sprite Backup Vs X Backup Question & Help

Oh wise ones of the forum can you answer this question for me.
After reading through the forums many of you recomend Sprite Backup rather that using the supplied X Backup.
I have purchased Sprite backup now here's my problem.
I have done a backup using Sprite
If i have to do a hard reset will the sprite backup program be there so i can restore? like X Backup is, in the rom?
If not what do you sugest ?

heard that spirite can backup to the sd card as an exe file in which case you can just run that to restore
or if you have access to the cab file for spirite backup you can put it in the extented rom and it will auto install at hardreset time

I can confirm that Rudegar is correct; Sprite Backup allows you to create self-restoring backups. Keep one of these on your SD card and you can always resotore your device with data & programs after a hard reset.
Works very well for me.
PeterH
XDA II

Does it create the self exe backup atomaticly or do i have to change a setting can't seem to find a setting for it .

THE BEST IS X_BACKUP
hi friends... i have very carefully evaluated both the software and i can bet it with u all that xbackup makes a more complete and fool proof backup than sprite...
a major problem u will some times face after restoring with sprite is that ur sent msgs will no longr be showing in the sent msg folder!!!
i have had it tried it with many xda IIs owners!

FOZZER said:
Does it create the self exe backup atomaticly or do i have to change a setting can't seem to find a setting for it .
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no, you need to select, options,swich to advanced mode,options,backup options,general back up options,and tick the create self-restoring backup files
hope this helps.

A good Full Backup Software (Data+Configuration+Install)

I am looking for a good backup software to save all the files and configuration between Hard Resets or ROM Upgrades, for Windows Mobile 5, thanks

I've seen several people on here recommend Sunnysoft Backup Manager. I've just now downloaded the trial, so I haven't had a cance to try it yet, but it does look to be very configurable. Since there's a free trial (14 days) give it a shot and see if it fits your needs.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51

I have tested the Sunnysoft Backup Manager. It does backup and restore my Wizard, but only for files and programs. All my PIM data are lost. :?
BTW, The "Data Backup" program seems to work in the Dell x51v WM5.0 machine. Could anyone extract it from x51v and try if it work in HTC Universal or Wizard? :?:
kelford said:
I've seen several people on here recommend Sunnysoft Backup Manager. I've just now downloaded the trial, so I haven't had a cance to try it yet, but it does look to be very configurable. Since there's a free trial (14 days) give it a shot and see if it fits your needs.
http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
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if you rename the file pim.vol (located in the root directory) to something like pim.vol.old and then do a soft reset and then start the restore, your pim data will be restored too.
Wolfgang

Yeah. Your idea works! It works even I just rename the pim.vol and start restore without soft reset.
Thanks a lot.
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if you rename the file pim.vol (located in the root directory) to something like pim.vol.old and then do a soft reset and then start the restore, your pim data will be restored too.
Wolfgang
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Sorry,
but why should the software backup my PIM-data ?
Just do a sync .. and they are there.
- Superbowl

Superbowl,
I don't trust outlook and otoh I'm on the road a lot of times without any chance to sync my data. So a local backup/copy is very helpful.
I had already some hardresets (not with the MDA Pro, but with other devices) without knowing where they came from and I was really happy to be able to restore my device in the hotel.
Wolfgang

but the "other devices" were doing a hard reset everytime u were running out of batteries, that s why it was usefull to have the contacts saved too.
Now this does not apply anymore.
I would need to restore my Data only after Rom upgrades, which i would prefer doing it on my home computer.(which has the contacts synchronized in outlook).

backup software
I am using sprite backup for a long time and it is amazing. I believe it is far better than the sunnysoft. At least 4-5 times faster.
It is reliable and restoring the state % 100. Morover scheduled or battery level dependant backups are available, too.

From Sprite Backup Website :
http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/personal/products/windows_mobile/pocket_pc.htm
"Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates. "

I missed WM 2005 part !!!

Full backup

Now i've got my xda mini S working pretty much as id like, i would like to perform a full backup to my mini SD card incase of a crash which requires a hard reset. It's important that i would be able to restore the system when 'on the road' and possibly away from a pc.
On my dell axim there is a backup to SD card util but i cant see anything similar on the xda mini s. Anyone help/recommend something.
thanks,
malty

You have to use a 3rd parts app. I use SPB backup, works well but there are others.

as i said i need something that can be run from sd without a full install to the pda. This is so i can restore without having to connect to a pc. Any apps that can install and / or run from the pda sd card will do

SPB backup stores the backup as an executable on the SD card that you can run to restore your system, PC not needed.

absolutely ideal thanks mate
will grab that app now
cheers,
malty

Sprite used to be my favorite, but they've let me down lately.
Spb is excellent!

I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?

seems perfect to me but i guess you dont really know until you need it. Just made a backup .exe and moved a copy to my pc for safe keeping in case the sd card goes down too. My mind is now at rest cheers guys.

fowen said:
I would like to take advantage of SPB backup but I have heard rumors that it won't restore to the newest Qtek rom properly. Does anyone have any input on this?
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Yup - I am on the new rom and I have just done a restore..... dont ask me why I had to restore....
.... ok I will tell you .....
.... I had to resore after I upgraded to the latest level of SPB Backup (v1.1.2 build 2050). Strange as this happened to me before when I upgraded. All was fine when I installed the new version from scratch last time. Not gonna try it again this time though, v1.1.1 is good enough. At least I know it works !!

im using 1.1.1 on an o2 xda mini s flashed with the imate rom. Havent had to do a restore yet but am hoping im safe.

I use sunnysoft backup manager and it work well, it can creat .exe backup file so i can easy restore late when my device go down or upgrade new rom.

I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.

Menneisyys said:
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?

Asturias said:
Menneisyys said:
I too recommend Spb Backup. I would NOT use the Sunnysoft app - it doesn't restore WinCE databases (PIM stuff etc)
I also recommend the article at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=545&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.
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May be i'm stupid but I can back up only PIM (contact...) with sunny on my charmer. Or charmer is not using WinCE?
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Strange it is working with your PPC - which Sunnysoft version are you using?

My version is:
Sunnysoft Backup Manager 3.7 wm5

Backup on TyTN, which software?

I'm looking for a backup solution, so I think I'm going to buy sprite backup. Any advice? Does it work fine with TyTN?

yes, it works with tytn.
I have and works fine for me.
Regards.

I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?

taron said:
I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?
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i was looking for a trial version of this as well but unfortunately sprite does not offer anymore trial downloads because some users somehow abuse the trial software......ive read that sprite backup also has an excellent feature where you can restore your backup file even if you have changed or reflashed to a different rom......

Sounds nice, but nobody has a feedback about SPB Backup?

I use SPB backup and found no problems with it at all. I normally make a backup to storage card SPB backup creates the backups as a executable file. Even if I have to do a hard reset on the road I can just double click on the backup exe on the storage card and everything is fine and dandy (not that I ever needed to do a hard reset on the Trion. Just did it a couple of times for testing purposes). I tried a old version of Sprite Backup where there was a expiry period and found it was a bit more complicated as the backup file was not a exe so you needed the original software on the card and even with that the registry settings were wrong on the Hermes. I heard that this isn't a problem and you just change your settings for Sprite Backup to create exe backup files. All in all I think that both programs are about the same. I just got SPB backup as part of the SPB bundle as SBP plus, Diary, Weather, GPRS Monitor worked great on the Trion. Especially when you want to know how much in call charges your making.

Hi ozziede,
Thanks a lot for your great feedback.
One more point: doest SPB backup work fine when you upgrade your ROM version for example? Can you restore easily?

My vote on SPB Backup. No #1 Choice.
Trying is Believing!

I never did a full restore after a rom upgrade. I only upgraded my rom once from german to the english version and I deliberately only did a selective restore as I expected problems moving from a german rom to a english one. Eg names of the program directory is different. I did a restore of my emails and contacts and some files in my documents and that seemed to work fine. I dont see any problem with Spb but someone else can confirm the restor of registry and programs after a rom upgrade.

Found Trial version of SPB Backup
irv777 said:
taron said:
I can't find a trial version, does it exist?
If we compar SPB Backup and sprite, pros and cons?
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i was looking for a trial version of this as well but unfortunately sprite does not offer anymore trial downloads because some users somehow abuse the trial software......ive read that sprite backup also has an excellent feature where you can restore your backup file even if you have changed or reflashed to a different rom......
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Handango has a trial download for SPB Backup.