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Is there any way to ge tthe camera application to store the pictures and video taken directly onto the SD card instead of internal RAM?
From within the Camera Application click on the "tools" Icon, then click tools (bootom toolbar) and select options from there you have an option to change the folder wher the image is stored....simply select storage card.....or whatever else you deem appropriate. :lol:
Bugger that wa easy; how dim??
However, after some experimentation I have found it is not practical to store video directly to a card - the transfer rate is not fast enough and the video end up jerky.
strange, I wonder if it has anything to do with the type of SD card you are using, I take videos quite regularly at times a good 2-3 minutes in length which I mail to family back home in the UK and I can't say i've exeperienced anything similar to what you mention. I'm using a SanDisk 512 card with the latest ROM release from I-Mate.
My SD is a Kingston 256.
I wonder if it is something to do with the access times of the SD cards??
I know if you spend more you get a card with faster access times.
Or; what resolution are you taking the video clips in? Obviously the larger resolution will require more data throughput and may slow down the 'saving' of data.
Whats stranger: The Kingston 256MB (Toshiba manufactured) are quite good & stable, whereas Sandisk tipically performs worse and is less stable!
So it has to be the resolution used.
I too experience limitations of the datatroughput when capturing video (biggest resolution) directly to SD.
For pictures it is not a problem.
accesstime should be very low on all sd cards not sure if they differ
accesstime is how long the system can get to the data sector it want to read or write
accesstime mean alot more with hd's because they are mechanical
sd and other flash types have very low accesstime
but the read and write thruput differ
you can use pocket mechianics to benchmark and compare with other sd cards in other pda's
I use the large capture size (240x320) i''ve got pocket mechanic on mine so i'll post the benchmark reults when i get a minute
Sandisk are as good as any other, I have been using them now for 1 year in my MDAII and have been operating without any problem, I use them to store Video, photo's and mp3, and change on a daily basis between about 3 different cards (music, video and photo's)
well in the pocketmechanics benchmark sandisk are not as fast as many other brands
Is it really, didn't know that
So which is the fastet 512 SD currently
donno
try looking at the bench's in pocketmechanics
also there looks to be a difference between the
sd speeds of different pda brands
and also i doubt the benchlist in pocket mechanics
is up to date
and then there is the problem with some cards not being compatible
with some pda's
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all i got is error message when i set it to save directly to sd card
i have lexar 1gb card.
error message is
cannot record the file
36001106:0
fail to ....the film...etc
any idea?
I have a problem with WMP...I am using a PQI 2g miniSD memory card to store my MP3's on...and most of the songs I try to play are skipping.
Im not using a bluetooth headset...just the speakers built into the Wiz.
Is there an issue with the PQI cards? Should I install another media player to play my songs?
I cant figure out why its skipping.
I am using the stock rom from Cingular...for now.
Any suggestions on what is going on...Id like to get this thing to work, so I dont have to carry my Nano.
I had the same problem with a Transcend 80 2gb card. I bought a corsair 2gb for 6$ more from newegg ($20 vs. $26) and have had no problems. In my experience trying to save a few bucks on these high density cards does not really work.
I have used SanDisk with no trouble and now this Corsair. The transcend is now being used in my digital camera instead and seems to have no problems in that device.
Good Luck
Well tonight I swapped my PQI 2g card with my wife's Transcend 2g card....her card(with her MP3's) is working perfectly.
Couple of things I forgot to mention....which I didnt think mattered.
Her songs were downloaded to her card using Media player from her laptop.
I think she created a Library and did the whole transfer that way.
Whereas I "drag and drop'd" all of my songs onto the card and then inserted into the 8125.
I noticed that when I checked the properties of each song off her card, audio codec is listed with Windows Media Audio 9 or 9.1
On my card, there is NO such listing.
Am I assuming correctly that I have use Media Player on my computer to transfer songs to the MiniSD card...and NOT drag and drop.
Or is it that the PQI card is crappy?
In the morning I will try the method she used to download songs and see if that works.
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Well tonight I swapped my PQI 2g card with my wife's Transcend 2g card....her card(with her MP3's) is working perfectly.
Couple of things I forgot to mention....which I didnt think mattered.
Her songs were downloaded to her card using Media player from her laptop.
I think she created a Library and did the whole transfer that way.
Whereas I "drag and drop'd" all of my songs onto the card and then inserted into the 8125.
I noticed that when I checked the properties of each song off her card, audio codec is listed with Windows Media Audio 9 or 9.1
On my card, there is NO such listing.
Am I assuming correctly that I have use Media Player on my computer to transfer songs to the MiniSD card...and NOT drag and drop.
Or is it that the PQI card is crappy?
In the morning I will try the method she used to download songs and see if that works.
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shouldn't make any differnence - WMP is not converting the files or something like that, it also just copies them. So your card seems to be crappy - I also had that problem... The only thing you can try is format the card with different settings/filesystem with SKTools (FAT16 vs FAT32, bigger custer size, no backup FAT table etc.) - but there is no "best" setting - you have to find out on your own...
thats it!
Toooooooooooo slow and hang a lot!!!
SUCK! coño!
davicito13 said:
thats it!
Toooooooooooo slow and hang a lot!!!
SUCK! coño!
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Agreed. Using TomTom and found it very slow and refresh rate was very slow too. Transfer speed to Microdrive is also slow. Well you dont have an Athena yet correct? I got rid of mine too. I got 100% refund on it ^^
yeah have an Athena and I'm happy with almost everything, I mean the microdrive don't work very well.
Sometime I had to reset the device because the files in microdrive missing...
I'll buy an microSD card...
My Microdrive goes perfect. I know that early delivered TMobile Ameos got some troubles but my HTC Advantage X7500 works perfect.
It's not slow at all and I got no trouble with TT6 maps on it. I use it intensively since I have music, videos and maps for Tomtom and OziExplorerCe into the microdrive and all off them works perfect. And you know video playing is and drive usage intensive task. And related to OziExplorerCe I have in the microdrive about 2 GB of maps and sat-photos and all of them works perfect.
So... if your microdrive sucks... mine not.
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My Microdrive goes perfect. I know that early delivered TMobile Ameos got some troubles but my HTC Advantage X7500 works perfect.
It's not slow at all and I got no trouble with TT6 maps on it. I use it intensively since I have music, videos and maps for Tomtom and OziExplorerCe into the microdrive and all off them works perfect. And you know video playing is and drive usage intensive task. And related to OziExplorerCe I have in the microdrive about 2 GB of maps and sat-photos and all of them works perfect.
So... if your microdrive sucks... mine not.
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no offense to the others, but my microdrive..like mahjong...is working perfectly. i'm using a u1000 by the way. i wonder if this problem is restricted to the a "spefic" athena. you know, ameo, advantage, x7500, etc. i hope there's a cab file or a quick fix which will help the others with their issues. maybe a rom upgrade will work? anyone with microdrive issues tried this already? if yes, did it improve?
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I benchmarked the microdrive and it is significantly faster than my SD card!!
Also, it behave great, I got most of my programs installed on in because of the speed. It never hangs or gives an error.
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I benchmarked the microdrive and it is significantly faster than my SD card!!
Also, it behave great, I got most of my programs installed on in because of the speed. It never hangs or gives an error.
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Very interesting analysis! I've been keeping programs on my SD and mainly use the MicroDrive for data storage. Maybe I need to rethink that strategy...
What did you use for benchmarks?
BTW, I have had no problems with MicroDrive... which includes a three-foot drop to concrete floor! But others have reported issues.
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My Microdrive goes perfect. I know that early delivered TMobile Ameos got some troubles but my HTC Advantage X7500 works perfect.
It's not slow at all and I got no trouble with TT6 maps on it. I use it intensively since I have music, videos and maps for Tomtom and OziExplorerCe into the microdrive and all off them works perfect. And you know video playing is and drive usage intensive task. And related to OziExplorerCe I have in the microdrive about 2 GB of maps and sat-photos and all of them works perfect.
So... if your microdrive sucks... mine not.
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I got my Ameo the day after it was released, so I consider it early, but its been excellent so far, and much quicker than miniSD
Indeed... I have no microdrive problems either, except that it drinks the battery if you do a lot of file swapping.
I used keep by programs on sd and only videos/photos on md. Now it has been reversed. My unit works very fast. Md is at least 10 times faster than my class 4 sd.
The other advantage of this arrangement is I can have unlimited number of sd cards that can be switched in and out like our floppy disk for pc. I'm no longer constrained by 12gb maximum storage. I can have unlimited videos and photos by simply having more sd cards.
Mine seems to disappear sometimes or the data on it becomes gobildegook but a soft reset fixes it.
I transferred 5gb of music in around 2hrs or less in a select all drag and drop scenario but when i try to transfer .avi files around 700mb, one at a time, they are taking over an hour.
Is this the norm?
Don't know if this will help anyone, but when i first had my advantage i had issues with the microdrive apparently dropping out while synced suddenly nothing in it at all, seems it only happened when WMP 11 on vista (don't know about other versions) decided it would try and sync up music as soon as the device was detected. Turned off WMP sync and have never had another issue.
As for video's i've been transferring 350mb ish DivX avi's in 10 to 15 minutes a piece, perhaps it depends on the encoding of the video ?
How are you guys getting around the limited storage/lack of expandable memory issue? I'm thinking of picking up a goflex satellite wireless drive to store high def movies there to watch over wifi on short trips but not sure how it actually interacts and if i will run into any issues with the vids
I bought a 2tb western digital my book live to store movies and music and use the wd2go app to stream to my tab 10.1. Its working well so far.
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I bought a 2tb western digital my book live to store movies and music and use the wd2go app to stream to my tab 10.1. Its working well so far.
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even when you're out on the road and stream high def vids?
Mainly Amazon MP3 has been a life saver.
When you sign up you get 5GB of free storage. However when you buy any album thru Amazon MP3 you get upgraded to unlimited music storage and 20GB of storage for other media/files. I was able to upgrade when Lady Gaga's album was $.99 on release day.
That has solved alot of my music storage issues. Also with Netflix working on the device, I have ALOT of content to watch.
I'm still working on a way to take more videos with me, I'm really hoping that when I get my 30-pin to USB adapter that you can use Mass Storage devices with it since I usually have to carry around 2 500GB HDDs with me for school anyway.
Jamieson555 said:
Mainly Amazon MP3 has been a life saver.
When you sign up you get 5GB of free storage. However when you buy any album thru Amazon MP3 you get upgraded to unlimited music storage and 20GB of storage for other media/files. I was able to upgrade when Lady Gaga's album was $.99 on release day.
That has solved alot of my music storage issues. Also with Netflix working on the device, I have ALOT of content to watch.
I'm still working on a way to take more videos with me, I'm really hoping that when I get my 30-pin to USB adapter that you can use Mass Storage devices with it since I usually have to carry around 2 500GB HDDs with me for school anyway.
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i saw a youtube video where a guy tried this with an external hdd. sadly, the tab rejects it because it is a "high power usb device". it cant supply enough power to it i suppose.... :-(
but usb stick etc work fine, they are getting pretty big too these days. and i think an external ssd should work too...
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i saw a youtube video where a guy tried this with an external hdd. sadly, the tab rejects it because it is a "high power usb device". it cant supply enough power to it i suppose.... :-(
but usb stick etc work fine, they are getting pretty big too these days. and i think an external ssd should work too...
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Thankfully I might not have that issue.
Both the HDDs I take to school has an optional hook up for external power, just in case you aren't able to get power from the USB/Firewire Port.
Man i was hoping at least one person in here has used the seagate's battery powered wifi external harddrive and can comment on the compatibility between the tab and video support
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even when you're out on the road and stream high def vids?
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Using wifi hotspots yes, but I only have a wifi unit. I havent tried by tethering my SGS2 and using H or 3G, will have to test that one out.
I only have a 16gb GT, only put a few playlists from iTunes on it and put the rest of my music on Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player. I then ripped some movies and put them on the tab, about 5 movies.
Half of my storage is now gone, maybe a little more than half. It is going to have to come down to movie/video management to keep space open on the GT.
Google/Amazon cloud music is awesome for your entire collection and just leaving a playlist or two on your GT.
For long trips you could add and remove videos by using the USB adapter.
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Using wifi hotspots yes, but I only have a wifi unit. I havent tried by tethering my SGS2 and using H or 3G, will have to test that one out.
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Outside of LTE based service, i can't see this happening with HD videos.
You need to buy the 32gig version for starters. Then get music and docs in the cloud so you have all the internal space open for movies. Then get a cloud storage service so when you get back to your room at night you can watch movies, erase the ones you've watched, and download more from your cloud drive. Basic storage management is all its going to take. Or you could take a laptop and hook it up to the tab at night and do the above process. Last I checked this tab is not meant to be a portable Hi-Def surround sound movie theater. They might market it like that (I haven't seen it) but its meant to watch home movies, view pictures, Google+, browse the web, use apps, and listen to some music.
I am waiting for the USB adapter comes out (I am not confident enough in my soldering to doctor one up as shown in another thread), and then I'll just attach the SD Reader I already have, and buy some SD cards.
In all, SD cards are much smaller than the goFlex drive, and don't need any battery, charging, or whatever. The drawback is of course cost - about $50 per 32gb SD card (so 512gb = $800 or so (16 x 32gb), as opposed to $200 for the goFlex 500gb) - so it more matters what you consider more valuable - smaller carry size and 0 extra power requirements, or a that can carry everything, but that is larger, and requires charging or a power source.
Get the USB adapter and a handful of cheap 8GB flash drives. It's hacky, but if you're not able to access cloud-based storage then it should suffice. You can get those postage stamp sized drives for about $10 now. Watching a movie with the adapter plugged in might not be all that good, so just use the file manager to copy from the USB drives to the Tab as needed.
ph00ny said:
How are you guys getting around the limited storage/lack of expandable memory issue? I'm thinking of picking up a goflex satellite wireless drive to store high def movies there to watch over wifi on short trips but not sure how it actually interacts and if i will run into any issues with the vids
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I'm curious about Seagates GoFlex Satellite wifi drive also but I can't find one at a nearby store to buy & test out.
sounds like a nice drive from what i read about it, but just another device to have powered up
get camera connection kit, and buy a couple 16GB thumb-sticks.
It also means you can't connect to the internet while connected to the Seagate WiFi drive. Which seriously limits your multitasking capabilities.
Got a USB Host adapter yesterday
I tried connecting a powered external hard drive to the GT USB adapter today and it didn't work. I tried xFAT and NTFS disk formats but it wasn't having any of it. It either complained of a corrupted USB drive or an empty one, even though it wasn't empty or corrupt. Thumbdrives and sd cards in an adapter work fine though. I plugged a mouse in too to check it out and it worked great. I just ordered a 32 gig SD to use with it. ~60 gig of available content is pretty decent.
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I tried connecting a powered external hard drive to the GT USB adapter today and it didn't work. I tried xFAT and NTFS disk formats but it wasn't having any of it. It either complained of a corrupted USB drive or an empty one, even though it wasn't empty or corrupt. Thumbdrives and sd cards in an adapter work fine though. I plugged a mouse in too to check it out and it worked great. I just ordered a 32 gig SD to use with it. ~60 gig of available content is pretty decent.
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i think u need FAT32, honeycomb doesnt work with NTFS etc...
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i think u need FAT32, honeycomb doesnt work with NTFS etc...
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Honeycomb is doing fine with NTFS on the Transformer. I tried it 5 times with 5 different Drives and Sticks and they all are working very well.
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I'm still waiting for Google Music to be released in the UK so I can upload my 30gb of music. However we have had Spotify for years, coupled with my free premium account and "all you can eat phone data" i have made a lot of playlist that I just stream them to the phone and tab.
I was going to transfer a few 720p movie files to my Nexus 7 today only to be told by my computer that I can't transfer any files larger than 4GB onto my Nexus 7...
...We do live in 2012, right?
How can I get around the 4GB file size limit (and why does such a thing exist in the first place!?)
I'd use Dropbox. The 4GB limit is based on how the internal SD was fashioned. Google probably figured that with a 8GB or 16GB device, no one would need to circumvent that limit
You proved them wrong.
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woshiweili said:
I was going to transfer a few 720p movie files to my Nexus 7 today only to be told by my computer that I can't transfer any files larger than 4GB onto my Nexus 7...
...We do live in 2012, right?
How can I get around the 4GB file size limit (and why does such a thing exist in the first place!?)
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I really don't see a need for transferring 4 GB at once. Why not move ONE movie at a time
the 4gb file limit is a restriction placed since the internal storage runs the FAT file system for compatibility with more PCs. i may be wrong, but android doesnt support NTFS at the moment, so the 4gb limit wont be bypassed anytime soon.
although you could just use a video file splitter.
You could use a USB OTG cable and thumb drive. Just toss the times you want on the thumb drive and rock with that.
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As mentioned, the 4GB limit is a filesystem limitation. I don't exactly know what filesystems Android supports natively though, but perhaps ext3 or ext4 would be a nice choice.
As others have said, if you're rooted you can use stickmount app and a usb otg cable to mount a stick drive to the nexus. It supports NTFS which doesn't have a file limit. It is read only, however, so you cannot move anything back on to the thumb drive, but it doesn't sound like that would be a problem for your uses. Copy and paste to tablet works great, and so does direct playback from the drive with mx player. My 1080p 15gb files play wonderfully from the stick, kind of amazing despite being egregious overkill..
I do wish there was a way to write to the NTFS drives though...
Android uses ext3 or ext4 which permits large file sizes.
Unless there is some special implementation of this file system that restricts file sizes, the actual problem is with Windows not recognizing that the device can handle large file sizes.
You are gaining NOTHING in quality with a 4GB+ video over a 1GB video.
Its a waste on such a small screen, you will NEVER be able to tell the difference.
Re-encode the video with the proper bitrate and enjoy amazing HD quality with a reasonable file size. Takes 25 min on a good modern computer for a 2 hour movie.
Queue 10 movies up before you go to bed. Done when you wake up. Pretty simple people.
Hemidroids said:
You are gaining NOTHING in quality with a 4GB+ video over a 1GB video.
Its a waste on such a small screen, you will NEVER be able to tell the difference.
Re-encode the video with the proper bitrate and enjoy amazing HD quality with a reasonable file size. Takes 25 min on a good modern computer for a 2 hour movie.
Queue 10 movies up before you go to bed. Done when you wake up. Pretty simple people.
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Actually re-encoding it to be a smaller file is exactly what I did as a solution and you are right, the process is "simple", but not FAST. Transferring the two movies I wanted to watch would've taken about 6-8 minutes via USB. However, the re-coding took about 12 minutes each video to get them down to about 2GB each. Then I transferred the files which took 3-4 minutes.
So had the Nexus 7 didn't have the 4GB file size limit, the total time I had to wait before I leave the house would've been 6-8 minutes. But because of the file size limit, I ended up waiting a total of close to 30 minutes.
I also agree that I gain nothing in quality with a 4GB movie file due to the size of the Nexus 7's screen. However, I had already downloaded these movies which I originally planned on watching on my 1080p HDTV.
CooLoserTech said:
I really don't see a need for transferring 4 GB at once. Why not move ONE movie at a time
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It's actually ONE movie file that's over 4GB
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Just go to thepiratebay.se and you can select whatever filesize and format your heart desires.
USB hard drive on Nexus 7
I just plugged in my 2.5-inch 1 TB USB hard drive into my Nexus 7 USB OTG. It is NTFS formatted. StickMount mounted it. I am now playing a 1080p video that is an 8GB file.
I was pleasantly surprised that the Nexus 7 supplies enough power to run the USB hard drive just fine.
Write?
geekmaster said:
I just plugged in my 2.5-inch 1 TB USB hard drive into my Nexus 7 USB OTG. It is NTFS formatted. StickMount mounted it. I am now playing a 1080p video that is an 8GB file.
I was pleasantly surprised that the Nexus 7 supplies enough power to run the USB hard drive just fine.
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While that's very impressive that the Nex7 can power the external hard drive, your scenario isn't a very viable option if you ask me. What I am looking for is fully-functional storage. There is no way currently that allows you to WRITE anything to that 1TB hard drive, am I right? You can only read. I currently have a 64GB flash drive, nice and light, and the adapter is velcroed to the back of my Nex7
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While that's very impressive that the Nex7 can power the external hard drive, your scenario isn't a very viable option if you ask me. What I am looking for is fully-functional storage. There is no way currently that allows you to WRITE anything to that 1TB hard drive, am I right? You can only read. I currently have a 64GB flash drive, nice and light, and the adapter is velcroed to the back of my Nex7
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You should be able to use this kernel to do so, since it supports NTFS read and write:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804374
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You should be able to use this kernel to do so, since it supports NTFS read and write:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804374
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Thank you, I'll give this a try and update in a minute.
UPDATE:
That kernel worked perfectly. It didn't automatically allow me to write to my flash drive or delete files, but I went into Paragon NTFS, unmounted, then re-mounted, and everything was super. Super as in: I can finally WRITE! =D
Thank you kindly.
The internal storage for nexus 7 is indeed not fat32, one way to prove it is to use a terminal app and concat large files all together, and you will see it bypass the 4gb limit, there was one test done and there's a 6 gig file inside the internal storage for nexus 7
Nexus 7 probably used fuse to display its contents on other oses, like windows or even macosx, using the universal file format fat32 to make it an easy process to mount stuff.
So unless there is a way to bypass and write to the storage natively, otg and a usb stick is another method...
No FTP or wifi xfers, too slow for a large mkv file
So is this an old issue? I just picked up an N7 and transferred a 5gig file to mess around and it plays just fine.
4 GB for one movie... good lord. What are you watching? Watchmen considering that's long as hell and drawn out... lol
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Actually re-encoding it to be a smaller file is exactly what I did as a solution and you are right, the process is "simple", but not FAST. Transferring the two movies I wanted to watch would've taken about 6-8 minutes via USB. However, the re-coding took about 12 minutes each video to get them down to about 2GB each. Then I transferred the files which took 3-4 minutes.
So had the Nexus 7 didn't have the 4GB file size limit, the total time I had to wait before I leave the house would've been 6-8 minutes. But because of the file size limit, I ended up waiting a total of close to 30 minutes.
I also agree that I gain nothing in quality with a 4GB movie file due to the size of the Nexus 7's screen. However, I had already downloaded these movies which I originally planned on watching on my 1080p HDTV.
It's actually ONE movie file that's over 4GB
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metalwraith said:
4 GB for one movie... good lord. What are you watching? Watchmen considering that's long as hell and drawn out... lol
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my ultimate cut of watchmen has 48gb, 1 mkv nonlossy video from blurry + dtshd track
I found this thread while searching for video size limit of Android but my dilemma is slightly different and I am not sure why I couldn't find a more elaborate discussion thread on the issue. I am talking about the size limit of the video that you are allow to capture using Android apps. I have tested it with Xperia SP and Samsung Galaxy Grand and both apps STOPPED capturing the video once the video file size reaches 4gigs, regardless of whether the storage media you are recording to is NTFS or FAT32. Is it a known built-in limit of Android OS and if it is so, anyone know of a workaround, custom mod, kernel etc that allow the capturing of video beyond that limit ?