It seems to me that we have all invested a lot of money in the Universal and there are some basic problems it has. We need to give the companies that make and distribute the Universal a complete list of problems they must fix.
My idea is to start a list that is added to by members here. Then on 1 December we should cut'n'paste the list and send as an email to whichever company provides support for you device (o2 in my case).
So, to start the list my suggestion is:
1. The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on
2. If Pocket IE is left running it will run down my battery very quickly
Okay - now just use this as the start of the list and add the problems you've found (i.e. #3, #4, etc).
The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see.
4) Phone does not actually start ringing until 3rd ring when switched off
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
6) MSN Messenger draws the text input pannel half way up the screen when started laptop style. Flip screen to portrate and back and the MSN screen gets redrawn correctly
Nigel
7) IE doesnot allow u to open more than one page?
jah said:
1. The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on
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Not true for my O2 Exec. Whether the clamshell is open, closed, laptop or portrait mode, I can still use my BT headset to make and receive calls.
Good luck with this thread. TBH I don't suppose it'll make the slightest bit of difference. While people are buying these things and the manufacturers and service provides are making money, why would they listen to our tiny voices?
8) inability to configure own extended rom, or remove and install from cd to increase available storage
9) regular crash and resets to recover memory that memory manager doesn't give back
10) inadequate access to connections when stacking connections, eg vpn over gprs to many clicks
11) inadequate camera, the worst 1.3mp ever seen and camera fails to remember setting changes on soft reset except if you pick only standard settings
12) flash on camera is totally pathetic as to be not usable
13) flash should be promoted as a torch and allow some value from it
14) inadequate ram,no ram upgrade path
15)not true VGA should have the improved FGA function per ozvga without the bugs
16) wmp not play videos in full screen
17) gprs does not keep the connection open constantly all day thus incurring the recurring cost
18) voice dialler doesn't work if clam is shut
19) hi startup memory utilisation RAM
20) hi utilisation of storage ROM
and I am sure there is a lot more if we searched this forum
21) terminal services black spots
22) remove quick launch bar
23) terminal services not sufficiently full scree, top n bottom bars can disappear
24) scroll bqrs to big, take up to much room
25) program more of the buttons
26) should be able to tweak more without using registry hacks, eg a list, on off, more, less
will it ever really end
@Simon_Darley,
Voice dialler does works great in whatever mode you place the device in be it clam (open or shut) or PDA.
Stronger flash? Develop a nuclear battery and you can even put a xenon bulb in the device.
Configuration of Ext.Rom is being worked upon by our very own super-cool Buzz. It should be here soon.
If i am not mistaken, the camera in the Universal is much much better than its predecessors. Yes, the cam is not as good as SE or Nokia's but SE or Nokia on the whole aren't even near as good as my universal The Atom with the 2MP cam will probably be a little better than the Universal.
WMP will play video's in full screen with the next RUU.
@Veletron,
My phone rings instantaneously. So, i wouldn't call this a bug. Could be device specific or something to do with O2 or T-Mobile presuming you have either of these. I own a JJ btw.
UD.
Okay list so far (please delete the faults that don't apply to you but those that require a workarounds are faults):
1) The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on
2) If Pocket IE is left running it will run down my battery very quickly
3) The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see
4) Phone does not actually start ringing until 3rd ring when switched off
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
6) MSN Messenger draws the text input pannel half way up the screen when started laptop style. Flip screen to portrate and back and the MSN screen gets redrawn correctly
7) IE doesnot allow u to open more than one page?
9) regular crash and resets to recover memory that memory manager doesn't give back
10) inadequate access to connections when stacking connections, eg vpn over gprs to many clicks
11) inadequate camera, the worst 1.3mp ever seen and camera fails to remember setting changes on soft reset except if you pick only standard settings
12) flash on camera is totally pathetic as to be not usable
13) flash should be promoted as a torch and allow some value from it
14) inadequate ram,no ram upgrade path
15)not true VGA should have the improved FGA function per ozvga without the bugs
16) wmp not play videos in full screen
17) gprs does not keep the connection open constantly all day thus incurring the recurring cost
18)Cool voice dialler doesn't work if clam is shut
19) hi startup memory utilisation RAM
20) hi utilisation of storage ROM
21) terminal services black spots
22) remove quick launch bar
23) terminal services not sufficiently full screen, top bottom bars can disappear
24) scroll bqrs to big, take up to much room
25) program more of the buttons
26) should be able to tweak more without using registry hacks, eg a list, on off, more, less
For me the following is annoying:
1) when the JJ rings with the lid shut the green and red buttons do not light up. At times in the dark I have by mistake pressed the red button and forced the call to end
2) about 20% of the times my JJ freezes when a new SMS is received. Makes the thing very unreliable because you never know that the JJ has hung up when it failed to receive the SMS successfully last time.
Kind Regards
Updated list:
1) The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on (JJ only so far)
2) If Pocket IE is left running it will run down my battery very quickly
3) The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see
4) Phone does not actually start ringing until 3rd ring when switched off
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
6) MSN Messenger draws the text input pannel half way up the screen when started laptop style. Flip screen to portrate and back and the MSN screen gets redrawn correctly
7) IE doesnot allow u to open more than one page?
9) regular crash and resets to recover memory that memory manager doesn't give back
10) inadequate access to connections when stacking connections, eg vpn over gprs to many clicks
11) inadequate camera, the worst 1.3mp ever seen and camera fails to remember setting changes on soft reset except if you pick only standard settings
12) flash on camera is totally pathetic as to be not usable
13) flash should be promoted as a torch and allow some value from it
14) inadequate ram,no ram upgrade path
15)not true VGA should have the improved FGA function per ozvga without the bugs
16) wmp not play videos in full screen
17) gprs does not keep the connection open constantly all day thus incurring the recurring cost
18)Cool voice dialler doesn't work if clam is shut
19) hi startup memory utilisation RAM
20) hi utilisation of storage ROM
21) terminal services black spots
22) remove quick launch bar
23) terminal services not sufficiently full screen, top bottom bars can disappear
24) scroll bqrs to big, take up to much room
25) program more of the buttons
26) should be able to tweak more without using registry hacks, eg a list, on off, more, less
27) when the JJ rings with the lid shut the green and red buttons do not light up. At times in the dark I have by mistake pressed the red button and forced the call to end
28) about 20% of the times my JJ freezes when a new SMS is received. Makes the thing very unreliable because you never know that the JJ has hung up when it failed to receive the SMS successfully last time.
29) If you perform a soft reset and the Messaging applicaiton is running you could lose the last set of emails that were downloaded (Exec)
jah said:
Updated list:
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
27) when the JJ rings with the lid shut the green and red buttons do not light up. At times in the dark I have by mistake pressed the red button and forced the call to end
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These are the same issues
Updated:
1) The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on (JJ only so far)
2) If Pocket IE is left running it will run down my battery very quickly
3) The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see
4) Phone does not actually start ringing until 3rd ring when switched off
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
6) MSN Messenger draws the text input pannel half way up the screen when started laptop style. Flip screen to portrate and back and the MSN screen gets redrawn correctly
7) IE doesnot allow u to open more than one page?
9) regular crash and resets to recover memory that memory manager doesn't give back
10) inadequate access to connections when stacking connections, eg vpn over gprs to many clicks
11) inadequate camera, the worst 1.3mp ever seen and camera fails to remember setting changes on soft reset except if you pick only standard settings
12) flash on camera is totally pathetic as to be not usable
13) flash should be promoted as a torch and allow some value from it
14) inadequate ram,no ram upgrade path
15)not true VGA should have the improved FGA function per ozvga without the bugs
16) wmp not play videos in full screen
17) gprs does not keep the connection open constantly all day thus incurring the recurring cost
18)Cool voice dialler doesn't work if clam is shut
19) hi startup memory utilisation RAM
20) hi utilisation of storage ROM
21) terminal services black spots
22) remove quick launch bar
23) terminal services not sufficiently full screen, top bottom bars can disappear
24) scroll bqrs to big, take up to much room
25) program more of the buttons
26) should be able to tweak more without using registry hacks, eg a list, on off, more, less
27) about 20% of the times my JJ freezes when a new SMS is received. Makes the thing very unreliable because you never know that the JJ has hung up when it failed to receive the SMS successfully last time.
28 ) If you perform a soft reset and the Messaging applicaiton is running you could lose the last set of emails that were downloaded (Exec)
rejects call when you answer after opening the clamshell
I find that if the clamshell is shut and I open it to see who is calling me, and then press the green button to take the call, it just hangs up on the caller. Annoying to say the least. Otherwise pretty happy now I took off the O2 set-up for the corporate one and have got used to it. Bit heavy though!
Re: rejects call when you answer after opening the clamshell
xdaperson said:
I find that if the clamshell is shut and I open it to see who is calling me, and then press the green button to take the call, it just hangs up on the caller. Annoying to say the least. Otherwise pretty happy now I took off the O2 set-up for the corporate one and have got used to it. Bit heavy though!
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This never occurred on mine. It must be caused by a third party software. I always open the clamshell to answer a call, never had the problem.
Updated:
1) The Bluetooth will switch off when the camshell is shut but the BT light indicates that it is on (JJ only so far)
2) If Pocket IE is left running it will run down my battery very quickly
3) The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see
4) Phone does not actually start ringing until 3rd ring when switched off
5) When closed, external start/end call buttons dont light up when call is recieved
6) MSN Messenger draws the text input pannel half way up the screen when started laptop style. Flip screen to portrate and back and the MSN screen gets redrawn correctly
7) IE doesnot allow u to open more than one page?
9) regular crash and resets to recover memory that memory manager doesn't give back
10) inadequate access to connections when stacking connections, eg vpn over gprs to many clicks
11) inadequate camera, the worst 1.3mp ever seen and camera fails to remember setting changes on soft reset except if you pick only standard settings
12) flash on camera is totally pathetic as to be not usable
13) flash should be promoted as a torch and allow some value from it
14) inadequate ram,no ram upgrade path
15)not true VGA should have the improved FGA function per ozvga without the bugs
16) wmp not play videos in full screen
17) gprs does not keep the connection open constantly all day thus incurring the recurring cost
18)Cool voice dialler doesn't work if clam is shut
19) hi startup memory utilisation RAM
20) hi utilisation of storage ROM
21) terminal services black spots
22) remove quick launch bar
23) terminal services not sufficiently full screen, top bottom bars can disappear
24) scroll bqrs to big, take up to much room
25) program more of the buttons
26) should be able to tweak more without using registry hacks, eg a list, on off, more, less
27) about 20% of the times my JJ freezes when a new SMS is received. Makes the thing very unreliable because you never know that the JJ has hung up when it failed to receive the SMS successfully last time.
28 ) If you perform a soft reset and the Messaging applicaiton is running you could lose the last set of emails that were downloaded (Exec)
29) The latest version of MS Reader can cause the Exec to freeze when used with DRM eBooks
30) The Exec can freeze when downloading emails over UMTS/GPRS from a POP3 account
Wow what a list of bugs ! how the hell did this device ever get through quality control and acceptance testing
if you guys are here to make a list of bugs spotted on this device, i guarentee you the list will be as long as the hills. Imate also seem to be making very little progress.
They really do need to get their skates on and start cracking out some ROM with all these updates in them
:roll:
Ward said:
The keyboard backlight button does nothing that I can see.
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Being new to all this i can't find the backlight button for my keyboard. There is a button on the front edge, which turns on the backlight button for my screen and a light sensor near the hinge for turning on the keyboard backlight in low light. Any help identifying where this button should be :?:
Its on the front - to the right of the IR sensor window (which I must confess took me far too long to find) and has an icon that looks like a bulb.
Its doing nothing I can't do otherwise by tapping the screen or pressing a button. Now if it was mappable...
Ward said:
Its on the front - to the right of the IR sensor window (which I must confess took me far too long to find) and has an icon that looks like a bulb.
Its doing nothing I can't do otherwise by tapping the screen or pressing a button. Now if it was mappable...
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it is mappable
add the following key to the registry:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C8
and create values just like another key (i.e. 40C5)
soft-reset and then you are able to program the button.
Okay so I think I know at least A solution but I'm hoping that someone here will be able to suggest something besides a hard reset.
I've got a Cingular 8125 a couple of weeks ago. Flashed it to the latest imate rom. I kept it from installing the custom imate stuff but did install some of the Cingular cabs.
Now I'm having a few problems with the phone. It's quite a list.
A) I can't enable wifi at all. At one point I could but the phone locked up on me while I was trying to resetup my connection. I had no choice but to soft reset it. Now I can't enable wifi at all. If I click on it in the comm manager to turn it on it will sit there with the spinning wheel like it's enabling then go back to the same icon with the x on it. I've tried turning flight mode on and off, etc but nothing seems to help it.
B) the phone HAS been locking up. It will just sort of freeze and stop responding. Sometimes I'm able to get to the memory settings in control panel and still have available memory (it's usually been around 16 MB of program memory when this has occured) but even so closing everything will often not help. Even if it unfreezes then it will usually do so not much later and often it just won't unfreeze.
C) sometimes I can't close out the phone application. This seems to happen when Magic Button is running. I click to close it and it goes from the phone to my call history. Closing that goes back to the phone again. I can't get to the Today screen. Pressing the red hangup button would sometimes fix it but usually not.
D) voice command is REALLY wonky using my BT headset (Scala 500). Okay, I know it doesn't officially work with BT headsets and I could live with that. But why does it have to be so damned random?
1) Sometimes pressing the button once will get me the chime. Usually it just gets me a lower pitched tone. If the first press doesn't get it then typically a second within a short time will. Sometimes it takes three though.
2) At one point the phone would usually play my selected ringtone and announce the incoming call over the headset. Other times I would only get the default incoming call sound on the headset and the phone and voice command announcement are over the phone speakers instead. In the last couple of days I've ONLY been getting them from the phone.
3) While typically when I'm using the headset with voice command the feedback DOES come over the headset, sometimes it gives me the confirmations from the phone instead
I think there were a few other flaky issues too but this is the majority of them. Also many of them were present before the rom upgrade so I don't think it's responsible for most of it.
edit: oh, one other thing is that after the ROM upgrade I can't get the default input to stay on anything but keyboard. Even if I change it, I turn around and it's back to keyboard again. I'm thinking, though, that there's a reghack for this?
*bump*
===A) I can't enable wifi at all. At one point I could but the phone locked up on me while I was trying to resetup my connection. I had no choice but to soft reset it. Now I can't enable wifi at all. If I click on it in the comm manager to turn it on it will sit there with the spinning wheel like it's enabling then go back to the same icon with the x on it. I've tried turning flight mode on and off, etc but nothing seems to help it.==
I have the same problem with you. Can anybody help?
any solutions i have the same problem
Try this: back up your PIM, then flash phone back to OEM ROM (cingular, t-mobile, whatever it is for your model). Then unlock it again (if needed), and flash the ROM again. If it's still garbage, try reading the thread for the ROM you loaded (chances are you're not the first to experience this problem, and the other testers of that ROM may offer solutions). If it's still garbage after all that, consider using a different ROM altogether. CRacing's CR86 Touch HD and SVI's ANGEL are both quite nice, and VERY reliable for functionality.
I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 1:
The power settings are: backlight off after 30 sec. power off after 1 min. (on battery power). After 30 sec. the backlight dims to the lowest setting but the device does not switch off after 1 min (or any time for that matter). This is a huge drain on the battery! I can switch off the device with the power button but once it turns on again (e.g. while receiving an SMS or email) it stays on with the dimmed backlight.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
My guess is that both problems may have simple solutions so I’m asking you all to help me with this.
Thanks in advance,
Stefan
niobium said:
I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
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Well for problem 2 you haven't searched enough! Anyway you should not use the power button; go to the Windows Media player settings and map the "Toggle screen" function to a hardware button. Then toggle the screen off when you play music.
Regarding your other problem: what software have you installed? Have you got this problem on a freshly upgraded phone?
The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
Problem 1 after fresh ROM update but right after that I installed TomTom 6.
I might try a new ROM update and check but rather as last resort...
niobium said:
The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
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It works for the Trinity too. You can also assign other functions to buttons if you keep them pressed. Toggle screen is assigned to "Hold Down" in my case. So if I press down once I decrease the volume, if I keep pressed I toggle the screen.
As to your first problem; i'm having the same problem too...
To narrow it down a bit; my device turns off (to standby) just like it should when i just briefly check the time or something and then put it away with the todayscreen on (so with no aplications running except some today-plugins ofcourse). However; it DOESN'T go back to sleep when the system has given any sort of notification, like a missed call or a received text-message or reminder for a calendar-item.
So my best guess is that it has something to do with the databases notification que (where WM2003/CE 4 had the problem of overflowing this notification que).
It's really anonying the hell out of me too, cause it really drains the battery fast if you don't discover it soon enough...
As for problem 2; map the screen-toggle to pressing the silver 'enter'button.....that workd great for me. By the way; i'm tinking about getting the new wired media remote control HTC is releasing shortly (check this link). I wonder if these buttons will be mappable.....
Edit: just as i posted this, i received a text message and this time it nicely turned back to standby (ie turned of) state when i didn't check it right away. I did however soft-reset last night before going to sleep. So i really do think it must be in the notification que somewhere, as PocketPlus will still clear that everytime i soft reset. Anyone having the same problem exactly as described ?
Well I found my phone again on after I received an SMS and this made me decide to completely reinstall the original ROM (including the GPS).
Step by step I installed all the applications (and tested the device in between: I started some programs and got some notification).
So far the result is that it all works fine now.
The difference might be the different ROM (from smartmobility.nl in stead of europe.htc.com although the version is exactly the same).
For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
niobium said:
For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
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Hmmmm....i do the screen-toggle everytime i use it as a musicplayer, and i get considerable good batterylife....
However, i'm not using the BT headset anymore cause the volume was too dim...i'm using the 3,5mm adapterplug now. But batterylife with bluetooth was about the same when i used it.
After all the work yesterday, this morning the problem with not going to standby occured again!
But now I know more. It happened only after I added some sites to my RSS feedreader.
I use pRSSreader from David Andrs (http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/)
Using the 'update settings' with 'automatically connect' the program tries to create a notification on the today screen if new messages arive.
This notification process is the problem. If I switch it of and soft-reset, the device works fine again.
I will mention this problem to David Andrs...
I hope this will help you as well.
I recently upgraded my Vario II to the T-Mobile WM6 ROM.
Since then, the device has been much more reliable, but I have a few problems with it:
1) When in a call, if I take a note using the keyboard, the numeric keys always work as numbers - I can't turn them off as if function button is permanently on, no amount of pressing the function button will allow me to use the letters, so I have to revert to the on-screen keyboard which is tedious if you are in a call.
2) There's much less memory available for data. I've reviewed my files but can't find anything thats wasting space. Is there some way to reduce the memory it's using (without getting to complicated!)
3) Is there a way to make sounds repeat, such as a missed call, or text. If i'm not near the phone when a text arrives, I often don't know about it for ages. A beep every few minutes as a reminder would be useful. The sounds & notifications settings only let alarms repeat.
Thanks for any advice.