Voice Dial button while devices is closed - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Somehow I managed to install MS Voice Command and is working OK.
But, one thing I cannot manage to solve, is using the voice dial button while the cover is closed. It doesn't do anything. It has to be open or the screen facing upwards.
Is there a solution or perhaps not?

Let's say you dialed. How would you talk to the person?

I am having the same problem.. it locks the buttons when lid is closed and there seems to be no way to unlock them... and, you can talk with the lid closed, for the guy who asked.

settings, buttons, lock. you can choose not lock the buttons when the device is closed
I am also suffering te same problem with voice command.
richard

they are all unlock, but still, voice command doesn't activate-
There has to be a way to trick the registry... but I'm no expert at all.

It's on my list of things to look at tonight.
I'll get to it when I've finished my real VGA hack.

Great! We'll be all awaiting your news.

as far as i know then the cpu is not active and normal programs are not running when ones device is turned off
so even if you unlock the buttons voice commander would not respond unless pressing the button wakes up the pda

Pressing the button does wake the device though. This is the bizarre thing.
If the device is off in tablet mode, it works fine.
If the device is off in closed mode, it doesn't work.
Pressing the button in closed mode produced the bing-bong sound indicating the VC is ready to accept commands but nothing happens therafter.

Was there ever a solutio found to this problem??? :shock:

Afraid not.

I'd love to find a solution to this too. I am convinced it is possible, because incoming calls do activate Voice Command with the XDA closed (it tells me who is calling), and the external buttons do wake the XDA when it is open.
But even though I have "do not lock buttons" selected, none of the external buttons do anything when the unit is closed.
I'd be very, very grateful if anyone could come up with a solution to this.

If you switch off in toggle mode then the device will respond after pressing the VC button. But if you have set pda up to close after a certain amount of inactivity, it will stop responding after that period of time expires.
So the solution is concealed under the way you switch off the device. I think if we found a way to switch off in toggle mode instead of suspending when pressing the on/off button, the we would found the solution. However, battery issues may come up...

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Can I make outgoing calls with the unit closed?

Sorry if this is obvious / has been asked before, but it is really bugging me. I'd like to be able to use MS Voice Command to make outgoing calls in clamshell mode, but none of the external buttons do anything and I can't find an option to keep them working with the lid shut.
There is a button, a speaker and a microphone on the outside of the unit, so it _should_ be possible! But is it?
Many thanks, jim[/b]
In settings, there is a button switch there which allows the buttons to work wiht the lid down I think.
I've got it set to "when device is off, do not lock buttons", but still none of the buttons do anything when the unit is closed. This option only makes a difference with the unit open, allowing you to wake the device with any button.
So any other ideas very welcome!

Stop accidental key presses?

Anyone have a solution for this? I have my Wizard go to standby after a short time and always make sure it is in standby when I put in in my case. However, when I receive a call and pull it out of the case, I almost always press one of the buttons. So when I answer the phone I have the camera going, contacts open or the connection manager open. I use all the buttons so I don't want to disable them completly. I wash there was a way to disable all buttons except the answer button for like 5 seconds after a call starts ringing. Or, be able to set buttons to not activate unless pressed for 2 seconds or so. Or, require 2 presses to activate. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Turn on the password (4 digit one is fine) and set to 0 minutes, the phone will "lock" as soon as you go into standby but when it rings you will be able to answer with the red/green buttons but nothing else until you put in your password.
Thanks, I will give that a try. I used a password before but it slowed things down so much that I removed it. I have done quite a bit of optimizing since then and will try it once more.
it does slow the use, and gets annoying (i still use it) but it does work until i find a decent app to do it. All it really needs is 2 touches or 2 buttons to unlock but not found anything yet... \
I have solved this with litle less work .I have Device lock Bar on the top, under date , so you need twice down and middle buton to lock the
device.
device lock doesn't seem to play well with the password application. if you have password activated you can do a device lock but when you put your device on standby and bring it to full power it is unlocked. if you use device lock without password it works.
any solution to lock keyboard during a call ? i always active some functions with my ears(...) when i speak
starseb - switch your phone to stand-by mode... the radio (phone part) should remain on, and you can continue calling. Then just switch it back on when done ( or not %) )
sorry for my english, but i make i make a mistake. i would say how to lock screen during a call.
bostjan said:
I have solved this with litle less work .I have Device lock Bar on the top, under date , so you need twice down and middle buton to lock the
device.
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Is there a good way to unlock by pressing just keys?
Try christoph's deltaLock map it to a hw button then set it to be unlocked by the same hw button.

disable answer/hangup buttons when screen is turned off

Is there a way to disable the answer/hangup buttons when the screen is turned off during a call? i keep accidentally hanging up on people
lol...okay
if you install a program called MortSaver it can turn off the screen and lock all buttons, except the button which de-activates it. you can activate mortscript by either assigning it to a hardware button or by simply launching the programs. if you wanna use it for your phone calls, i think you'd be more comfortable by assigning it to a hardware button. to me, i wouldn't give up one hardware button to mortsaver.
hopefully this will solve my automatic answer when taking the phone out of the holster to check whose calling...
thanks
thanks for the tip. ive read about this app in several threads, never thought to use it for this purpose.
thanks again

Accidential Answering

I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
abricko said:
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike
This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0
Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.
I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!
not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.

Key press (by mistake) on the case

When my device P3600 received call or sms, the device is powered up, and then all the keys are active. If the device in case some key can be press (by mistake) and activate a program on this situation.
Does any one have a solution for that?
Use the Device Lock Feature in your Today Screen.
I do not like to add one more line to the dotay screen
can I use it without add it to the dotay screen?
If you don't want an additional line on the today screen then the other option is to set the device to request a password after only one minute of inactivity (under "Settings", "Personal", "Lock").
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If you don't want an additional line on the today screen then the other option is to set the device to request a password after only one minute of inactivity (under "Settings", "Personal", "Lock").
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10x, but this is not help, the lock is form power up the the device, and the device is automitly powered up when received call or sms
I use a program called "device lock" that can be mapped to one of the buttons, I use button one when you hold for a few seconds. The app locks the phone and turns off the screen, so when you recieve a call or sms the screen will turn back on but the phone will still be locked.
Have a search on the forums here for it, that where i got it from.
Cheers
iMike said:
I use a program called "device lock" that can be mapped to one of the buttons, I use button one when you hold for a few seconds. The app locks the phone and turns off the screen, so when you recieve a call or sms the screen will turn back on but the phone will still be locked.
Have a search on the forums here for it, that where i got it from.
Cheers
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in this case you can not aswers a call, when received one - because when the device is lock there is no quick way to answer that call.
or I miss someting here.
Carmi said:
in this case you can not aswers a call, when received one - because when the device is lock there is no quick way to answer that call.
or I miss someting here.
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Yes you can answer a call, the device lock only lets you use the power, answer, and hangup buttons. When the call is finished it is still locked, unless you unlock it.
I use this one. http://www.mr2-power.com/downloads/DeviceLock.CAB
10x, GREAT, this will do the job
it is work fine - 10x
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10x, but this is not help, the lock is form power up the the device, and the device is automitly powered up when received call or sms
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I am glad you found a way to solve your problem but I don't understand why my suggestion should not work. If you set your device to request a pin after one minute of inactivity if you receive a message the keys will still be blocked until you enter your pin. (I am talking about device PIN not SIM PIN).
And if you receive a call the answer button works even without entering a PIN.
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I am glad you found a way to solve your problem but I don't understand why my suggestion should not work. If you set your device to request a pin after one minute of inactivity if you receive a message the keys will still be blocked until you enter your pin. (I am talking about device PIN not SIM PIN).
And if you receive a call the answer button works even without entering a PIN.
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Your solution works too, the only thing is sometimes (for example) I'm sitting on the couch using my phone for email or surfing and watching a TV program. I stop to watch something interesting for 3 minutes and my phone has locked itself with the pin lock. I have to enter the code each time this happens. It can get annoying. If I use devicelock, I lock the keys when I need to, obviously when I'm at home and my phone is on the coffee table, it doesn't need to be locked. I set my device pin lock at 2 hours, that should give the phone enough time to lock itself if I loose it...hopefully.
yeah... but when you loose your phone the device lock doesn´t matter. only reinstall a Rom and your phone can be used.
dersvenni said:
yeah... but when you loose your phone the device lock doesn´t matter. only reinstall a Rom and your phone can be used.
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Yes, very true, but at least they won't be able to see all my contacts, appointments, notes etc. That being said, I always use FlexWallet to encrypt all sensitive information which is synchronized to my laptop.
touch screen and buttons can be locked during a call?
I followed up this thread and found it very interesting. But it does't focus all the problem:
when call's come in, your solutions are ok.
But when I want to make a call, I found there is a nasty *****, clicking to call waiting or to head speaker on, opening a note or calling my voice box etc. etc.
Then I found that it was my ear or my fingers, clicking on the touch screen or my fingers clicking hardbuttons.
I think tat during a call on the normal speaker the only buttons to be active should be "hang on" and "loud speaker on". With loudspeaker or BT on, or call terminated,s screen and buttons should come back to full function.
Anybody knows a solution to this?
Regards, and keep on, its a great forum. i love it.
iMike said:
I use a program called "device lock" that can be mapped to one of the buttons, I use button one when you hold for a few seconds. The app locks the phone and turns off the screen, so when you recieve a call or sms the screen will turn back on but the phone will still be locked.
Have a search on the forums here for it, that where i got it from.
Cheers
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Hmm this is just "device lock" that we can see in HTCplugin. In my case it does not turn off the screen. It just locks my device. Is everyone has "turn off the sreen" functionality?
> Karl der Käfer wrote:
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> touch screen and buttons can be locked during a call?
I lastly tried the on-off button to block screen during outgoing calls.
I never did this before because I thought it would cancel the active call, but it doesn't.
Ok, I see it's more or less doing what I want. But it's very unconfortable. When I hit it bad, or don't hit it at all, or forget to press it?
Isn't there a posibility to have the screnn sensibility off, only sensibility, until the call is either ended, passed to outer speaker, headset or BT? or perhaps simply until I give it free manually?
It would improve safe usage of that phone remarkably, I think.
If not :-( , well, I allways can press the button ;-)
curious for what solutions you'll find on your problems with incoming calls. Perhaps that will give me an Idea.
Chears
I've complained about this on just about every major forum I have found. Hopefully, someone will eventually write an app to allow personalized device locking. I would set my trinity to not wake for ANYTHING and have ONLY the power button active. I would prefer to get audible alerts (or vibrate) to incoming calls, alarms and messages. Pressing power would be the only way to turn the device on. PIN features only annoy me. This would be very useful anytime I am not willing to immediately respond to a notification - driving, having dinner, in a meeting, etc. It could significantly improve battery life. I store mine in my pocket and accidental button press is a problem as well.

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