Hi, I just got the HTC Universal in the form of the i-mate JASJAR.
I toyed with, it connects great on my wireless LAN. It works great at picking up wifi hotspot signals and connecting to wifi networks. Great TFT screen. Great browsing experience.
I tried to connect it to my LaCIE ext. hard-drive with mini-usb to usb converter, but did not pick it up, it does not pick up usb mem. sticks either, either one needs extra drivers, or the mini-usb port is only meant to be used for syncing functions (although it is claimed that the mini-usb can also do host/client functions with extra software, maybe they will include that in a firmware upgrade in future). I am happy with the device, as I was happy with the i-mate pda2k, with in this case all the extra functionality and great ergonomics designs, it is fabulous...
Nabil H.
any chance it can be install with widcomm bt stack?
I'm getting mine on Wednesday. Can you verify that it can charge over usb? That is when you plug in you data cable supplied to your computer with the computer running.
Thanks,
Mike
iMate Jasjar
Any luck to use our backpacks from xda2? Is it compatible?
:wink:
Victor
it can charge over usb
and they include a pouch for it...
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Hi guys,
Firstly great board, secondly i was wondering if anyone was able to help me with the problem I am having with my X2.
I have loaded tom tom onto it and when I plug the GPS in, it doesn't work. I have stopped the Active Sync running since it kept launching the active sync window when I plugged in the gps. I try launch the GPS Status menu from inside the tom tom navigator and it says "Unable to launch the GPS control panel".
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Stuart.
What GPS are you using?, i use a Fortuna Bluetooth GPSmart and it works perfectly, i am running bluetooth tools though, the bluetooth connection seems much more reliable when using it
It isn't a bluetooth one, it doesn't say what make it is just a compact flash GPS receiver?
Mosser,
Is the fortuna blue tooth recharchable or does it use AA batteries??
Imries, if it is compact flash then i assume you must be using it with the xda2 backpack, I have heard of many cards that will not function with the backpack.
Jupiter. The Fortuna Gpsmart uses AAA batteries, standard or rechargeable, however there is no recharge circuit on board.
As cruisin said, the fortuna uses 3 aaa batteries, but i mostly use the power lead in the car and save the batteries for when i'm on the train or walking,
I also have a noname brand CF GPS that just says BC-307 on the cd rom that came with it, it works fine on my ipaq 2210 but i dont want to get a backpack after trying one in the shop, it was way too bulky for me so i'm staying bluetooth on my XDA2
Thanks.
I am tempted to get one. I suppose there are pro's and con's of having AA batteries.
Ie if you are in a himalayan village without electricity but the corner shop sells AA batteries?!
Any ideas what price I should be paying.
Another thing - do you guys know of any shops that actually sell GPS units? I have looked in all shops in the UK but could not find any?!
I had the same issue with my XDA 2 with Tom Tom.
It is to do with the Infra Red Port.
Loot at connections under Control Panel under Infra Red untick the Receive box.
Hope this works OK.
Click the link below, expansys are usually one of the cheapest suppliers in the UK they are curently going for £115 for the gps, £25 for the pc link/car power lead, and £8 for the cig lighter to usb power adaptor making it around £148 in total
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=GPSMART,
If your interested i am selling my Fortuna gpssmart and pc/power cable and cig lighter adaptor soon as i am getting a rover 75 that will have sat nav in it already and i dont need 3 sat nav system!!
It is all in mint as new condition with the latest firmware that i loaded myself and is all fully boxed, looking for £100 for it all
Mosser, which cable did you use for the firmware upgrade, i was under the impression that a proprietary cable was required and that a standard mini usb cable would not suffice?
Your right that you do need the genuine propriatry cable to connect to the GpsSmart and luckily thats what i bought!, you cant use a standard cable as there is no usb interface on the GpsSmart, it is actually a serial connector made to look like a USB connector and the genuine/propriatry cable has a USB to serial convertor chipset built into it, thats why the cable is so expensive
In a business trip I eneded up in a hotel with no mobile antenna coverage! The place was in middle of nowhere! Obviously i-mate was no longer a PDA-phone, but only a PDA! I had to get connected to internet to check my mails. My room had a normal phone line of course, but so what!?
Is there any device (sort of compact external modem with IR, Bluetooth, WiFi, USB) port which can be connected to JAM so that it can get connected if there is no GSM-GPRS-..... ????
there exist a lot of bluetooth analog modems. just use google
Or use any old external modem from the days of serial communication..
I've tested my XDA II with a US Robotics 28.8 modem, and it worked like a charm..
You only need the serial cable, cuz it has the 9p connector..
This cable is actually a nullmodem cable, so you MIGHT need a nullmodem converter as well..
It's doable, but practicall? I dunno..
@bonzo
where do you connect the serial cable to the xdaII? or the null converter to the xdaII? doesn't the modem need a driver for the xdaII?
Ok,
I was reading a post over at the PSP Linux forum about suspicions that the PSP has USB On-The-Go abilities. USB On-The-Go basically means a device can be a USB Host or a USB Client, and is usually restricted to a a certain class of USB devices - eg you might want a USB OTG camera to only act as a host with Storage Devices.
Now to quote this page http://www.beyondlogic.org/usb/otghost.htm ...
As a device can be either a host (A-device) or peripheral (B-device) and that the USB specification calls for different types of connectors for upstream and downstream ports, the OTG spec introduced two additional connectors. One such connector is a mini A/B connector allowing a mini A or mini B connector to plug into the one recepticle. A dual-role device is required to be able to detect whether a Mini-A or Mini-B plug is inserted by determining if the ID pin (an extra pin introduced by OTG) is connected to ground.
This basically says that tradictional USB uses A connectors for Hosts and B connectors for Clients. Because they needed to allow OTG devices to be used as both a Host and a Client, they designed a port that could accept both mini A and mini B connectors. Unsuprisingly, this is called a mini AB connector
So, for small USB Client devices, a mini B connector is used. They look like this:
http://www.cypressindustries.com/products/images/ccmusbb-32005-201.gif
For small USB OTG devices, the new miniAB port is used. They look like this:
http://www.cypressindustries.com/products/images/ccmusbab-32005-700.gif
so go look on the bottom of the Magician. Low and behold, a mini AB connector! In fact you'll see the cable they gave you with your magician is a mini B but it still fits into the mini AB connector on the jam, even though it's a slightly different shape.
Now, it could be USB Host was planned or the port was added to allow backwards compatability with the Magician2 or whatever, but all the same it's a pretty interesting feature, given that a company can probably source mini B connectors for cheaper than mini AB, (as not many companies are making them yet).
So... does the Jam have USB host functionality or not???
If so, here's some drivers to take advantage of this function. Use at your own risk.
http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/
http://www.anypakusa.com/PPC/
Maybe one could connect the jam to a hard drive???
I've did some research, and if the Magician supports USB On The Go (why else would there be a MiniAB connector on the bottom of the device in stead of a normal MiniB (4p) connector) it should be able to play USB Host.
I'm ordering a MiniA to A Female connector and I'm hoping it will work out so I can connect a USB Flashdrive, GPS reciever etc.etc.
Why do people need USB host on their Magician? I can only imagine using an USB keyboard, but everything else I can do with bluetooth and my 4 GB MMC card.
And for using my Magician as "USB-Brick" I use this here:
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
Well... I don't like wireless That's the most important reason.
I want to use a wired GPS-reciever in my car.
I want to be able to connect a USB mass storage driver.
And I'm a geek who just wants to explore every possible option
So why shouldn't I give it a try
esackbauer said:
Why do people need USB host on their Magician? I can only imagine using an USB keyboard, but everything else I can do with bluetooth and my 4 GB MMC card.
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Well, I think most of the people are interested on the fact that you can actually use an ext hdd, e.g. you have 80GB+ of videos, mp3s that you play on your unit (although I doubt it is able to power the 2.5" type). You can print documents from your unit to a printer, get your pictures off your dig camera, use a USB ext wifi, etc.
hanmin said:
Well, I think most of the people are interested on the fact that you can actually use an ext hdd, e.g. you have 80GB+ of videos, mp3s that you play on your unit (although I doubt it is able to power the 2.5" type). You can print documents from your unit to a printer, get your pictures off your dig camera, use a USB ext wifi, etc.
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Excuse me for being a pain, but all these options are nonsense IMO, because Magician is the ultra portable device.
What is the sense of attaching a bulky 80GB hdd and cables to the Magician? To have its batteries empty in only 15 minutes?
Printing can be done wireless via infrared (HP printers) or WLAN, digicam pictures I can load by directly inserting its card in Magician. USB Wifi is also a joke as it drains the battery immediately.
If you want all these options, do it right and buy a Subnotebook and a 3G UMTS PC-Card.
esackbauer said:
Excuse me for being a pain, but all these options are nonsense IMO, because Magician is the ultra portable device.
What is the sense of attaching a bulky 80GB hdd and cables to the Magician? To have its batteries empty in only 15 minutes?
Printing can be done wireless via infrared (HP printers) or WLAN, digicam pictures I can load by directly inserting its card in Magician. USB Wifi is also a joke as it drains the battery immediately.
If you want all these options, do it right and buy a Subnotebook and a 3G UMTS PC-Card.
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ditto
I really doubt it supports USB Host. The board definately supports it, but HTC don't implement it. I think this will yield no results....
Hope you prove me wrong
And dude...... 1.8" Hard Disk Drives are TINY!!! so just quit being a spoil sport
Of course I wouldn't be connecting an periperal eventhough how small it is while walking around, but while at home or in the car sounds ok.
Well USB OTG would be great as I could dump all of my pictures on my digital camera (1GB card) onto my Charmers 4GB SD card. On holiday and stuff this would be really handy so I don't run out of space.
to be honest its not about what you can do with it, its partly bragging rights, hey look i can do so and so on my phone.... etc..
I, for one, would like to see a USB host hack.
Yes, there are SDIO wifis.
Yes, there are SDIO cards that allow wall projector connection.
But these require that I give up my memory card, where I store my stuff, making these things have only limited use.*
I could use Bluetooth, but:
- A standalone BT <-> Wifi bridge that isn't a PC or doesn't connect to a PC does not yet exist. There is a Bluetooth portable GPS receiver, but that's it.
- Projectors with BT enabled are FREAKING EXPENSIVE. Not to mention they aren't common. I've always wondered what that stray miniusb port on the more common small business models are for...
So why not buy a laptop, you ask?
Well, I already have a PC.
If you're suggesting I buy one, either you have never carried one around before, or you're so rich you can buy the lightest, least bulky ones without burning a hole in your pocket.
*That Sandisk 256/Wifi can't quite contain everything I'd want on my 1gig, leaving my only recourse to be (hopefully) the Eye-Film which is currently only in prototype stage. Sandisk already EOL'd that product anyway.
There are only 2 possibilities to get USB Host:
1. Wait for the WM2005 ROM for Magician, maybe HTC implemented the USB Host driver with it ;-)
2. Wait for HTC Trinity, maybe it has USB Host.
However, both options are not very realistic, because a WLAN USB Stick pulls 500 mA from the battery, so you get about 30 minutes battery life...
An USB Host has to provide power to the connected devices, and this is the reason why we probably won't ever see it on a mass market device.
You think you connect any USB device on that Host and it works? Like printers, scanners etc? Sorry, but you're dreaming. You need drivers for this and they just don't exist. There are no USB GPS mice that work with Pocket PCs and there are no Wifi sticks that work with Pocket PCs, period.
The only thing you could do is connect some mass storage device and use this. Besides that I'm 100% sure that the Magician doesn't support USB Host functionality, period.
So get a new PPC with Wifi and use Wifi disks etc. USB host would be nice but no Phone Edition device that I know of has it.
It would be SOOOOOO nice to connect a harddisk to my magician. A 4GB SD Card cannot store all my MP3s. And I want them all in my Car.
Dandie said:
So get a new PPC with Wifi and use Wifi disks etc. USB host would be nice but no Phone Edition device that I know of has it.
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Actually, Eten M500 supports it.
You need drivers for this and they just don't exist
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Certain drivers do exist; like the JetCet unofficial ones. You'd also need to load drivers for SD-IO cards as well (IIRC the Sandisk Wifi/Mem combo needed a driver), so drivers are actually a non-issue. What matters is that it can be done.
jackleung said:
Actually, Eten M500 supports it.
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Magician also supports USB host, because
your BT is attached there. So what? It is the 500mA
current source and the electrical connection to
the USB socket that counts.
Currents not a problem i should think. All USB devices are standard 0.5A supply.. and all USB devices use the same supply.
Hi,
I have a USB GPS receiver that is powered via the USB cable wired into my car which I occasionally use with my laptop.
I would like to connect this to my universal, but am worried about it draining the battery.
I have a small Belkin USB hub that has external power (which I can provide from a transformer in the Cig lighter socket) that has one mini USB socket which is usually used to connect to the PC and then 4 standard USB ports.
If I connect the GPS to one of the USB ports and then Universal to another they should both be powered, but will the Universal be able to 'see' the GPS?
I know I could go and just try it, however it would be useful to know before hand incase it doesn't work when it is supposed to due to some driver issues or something similar.
Any thoughts appreciated.
To My understanding this is not possible, the mini usb port on the uni is not capable....there is a word to describe it but cant remember at the moment. The port can onl charge and sync.
it won't work
Sadly this won't work as the uni does not support usb host - it can charge and sync but thats all as far as i'm aware.
that was it "usb host" :lol:
THanks. That's a shame, I'll have to get a BT one now.
Or look for a cradle that will act as the host for both devices. Sadly when I searched on google, most of the returned results are blocked by my work firewall, so I can't see for sure that one exists for recievers with usb plugs.
edit* Although thinking about it, the price of a cradle could well equal a new bluetooth receiver, and bluetooth would be vastly more practical use of your cash.
Thanks, already trying to track down a BT receiver.
Why not?
What makes me wonder is that when my MDA Pro is connected via activesync with my PC, I can browse with my MDA over my PC-Internet connection into the Internet. Why should it not be possible to use the usb connection of the MDA with other hardware? :roll: Isn't it just a driver problem?
Any ideas???
hm
My thought on that would be that your MDA is acting as the slave device when attatched to your PC, not the host.
Hey, here's a market opportunity for you USB GPS manufacturers - add USB Host capability and TCP/IP protocol to your USB GPS device... What? Can't hear you. Ah, Too expensive?. Ah, ok :-(
Anyone reckon this is achievable?
Coudl be possible to get USB to RS232 conversion for the mini USB socket?
Surely there must be some software that does such thing!
I don't think it's that easy - usb is slave, not host, so it limits what you can connect it to.
Why would you not use bluetooth? Irda would even be an option. But USB, I don't think it's going to happen (easily).
V
I know there use to be serial GPS receivers for the old iPaqs, before they had bluetooth. They connected through the devices USB port (HP proprietary plug) which acted as serial (not USB host).
However, I never heard of one with min USB connection.
Thanks for the reply guys.
I do remember finding a company that had software that turned the mini usb into a usable RS232 interface with the help of some software installed on the PDA but I can't find it anymore!
vijay555 said:
I don't think it's that easy - usb is slave, not host, so it limits what you can connect it to.
Why would you not use bluetooth? Irda would even be an option. But USB, I don't think it's going to happen (easily).
V
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Oh What I wanted to do is integrate a hardwired GPS solution in with a in-car cradle so people can just place their PDA in the cradle and away they go!
With Bluetooth it is much more difficult because for each user that uses that vehicle they will need to keep pairing devices up!
did you have any luck with this? I was looking to make up mini usb connector for Holux cr 100 - sounds as though it won't work though.
Has anyone managed to get a GPS feed from a SGS to their laptop, via the USB?
I have Marine Navigation software on my laptop, but not a GPS dongle. If I can use the SGS to supply the laptop with a GPS feed it would be very handy.
Any ideas anyone?