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What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
Not too hard to guess what the 1st person put, is it
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
Xeon said:
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
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That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
johncmolyneux said:
That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
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Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
Xeon said:
Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
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Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
Yerry said:
Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
johncmolyneux said:
Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
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Yes I did.
But my rear speaker...
Some ppl here are even saying good or brilliant. I figure HTC is using very cheap components and the spread between those must be huge.
I had luck on mine in terms of the earpiece, but I had no luck on the rear speaker.
It is a shame that a 100 Euro Nokia has a better speaker than my HD 2.
Guess I have to return it :-(
very bad rear speaker or audioprocessing algorithm. rear speaker sounds distorted all the time, no good for a handsfree phonecall or listening music. guess too much volume is pumped to the speaker. not gonna return device anyway. bluetooth headset or headphones.
Coming from iPhone it is very poor for music. Not that the iPhone is high fidelity in any way, but it's much richer. The HD2 speaker is tinny, but it works well for hands free voice, where I thought the iPhone was a bit a sharp and piercing.
Yerry said:
What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
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I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
doraemon said:
I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
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The N95 is ridiculously better than ANY HTC device ever made, but that's got nothing to do with this poll, so let's not get into that. Likewise with your TP2 comment. The poll is what you think about the HD2 speaker. It's not asking for comparisons.
ok...given that the rear speaker is tiny , am not expecting much but what i dislike is that the sound is garbled and not clear!
I use the speakerphone a lot for con calls...and compared to my n958gb...the sound is less loud (which is okay) but not clear at all....garbled...where I cannot distinguish properly what is being said
I think my rear speaker is ok, but I do get a lot of distortion at high volume through the 3.5mm out which is annoying.
i find my hd2 speakers to be very well made. not earpiercing at all and sound quality is on par and even better than sony's walkman phones and nokia's express music models
I'm pretty sure that aside from the Touch pro 2 HTC use loudspeaker components meant for musical birthday cards. The sound on the HD2 and all the other HTC devices I've owned (including the G1, Magic and Hero) has been appaling compared to all the non-HTC devices I've owned such as the Nokia 5800, iPhone 3gS, Samsung Galaxy, Omnia 2 and Motorola Dext.
It's such a shame that HTC let themselves down like this with their speaker and camera hardware as the BUILD quality of their devices is as good as it gets in my opinion, I just wish they'd stop using crappy parts.
I'm certain the Desire I have on order will also have a crap loudspeaker too.
Just played the same trailer on the HD2 and iPhone YouTube apps and the difference in sound richness - no matter what volume - is deflating.
The "loud"speaker on the rear of the unit isn't really that loud and becomes very tinny when set to a high volume. Bass is non-existent (not surprisingly).
Works OK for a small conference in quiet surroundings but is not suited for a larger group, noisy surrondings and certainly not music!
This is one of the very few areas where TP2 is miles ahead of it's cooler brother - HD2. The conferencing-ability of the TP2, including the rear speaker, is in my opinion brilliant!
....also I don't mean to be a negative nancy but those who have voted the HD2 rear speaker to be 'brilliant' must either have aural deficiencies, have never heard the speakers on a non HTC device or refuse to accept any negative criticism of their beloved device.
There is no smartphone I have come across in the past 18 months that had worse speakers than a HTC-made handset. Most of my friends have some form of HTC device and without prompting all of them have at some point mentioned the poor speaker quality. HTC's speakers have no dynamics to them, so any talking with background noise turns into an incomprehensible mess. On an iPhone or Nokia XPressMusic I can happily listen to my favourite podcasts and music through the loudspeaker but with an HTC device my timpanic membrane is left shuddering as if I had been trapped in a metal dustbin and struck repeatedly with an iron hammer.
So if I can I use a speaker dock.
crap
This is my third HTC made device - PDA2K, TYTN II and now HD2. I must say i am not an audiophile. TYTN II was not too bad, but HD2 is pretty bad. Bought my wife an iphone 3GS (got it cheap as upgrade on phone plan)
my HD2 is embarrasing as a music player compared to the Iphone.
I have had to buy a set of earphones Stenheiser for it, the included ones were crap too. For a NZ$1000 phone, it's unacceptable.
The rear speaker is OK but distorts at volume.
Can anyone of you test the following:
When you are calling with someone, and your calling volume is on the maximum (so the volume of the speaker that you hold against your ear). Can anyone notice a little crack from the speaker when the other person talks a bit loud or make's a loud noise? I'm wondering if there is something wrong with mine. With several tones the ear speaker cracks a little bit, like the sound is to loud or something.
Is it defective ?
I had this problem with the HD2, so I am not really surprised to hear that N1 also has it (I don't have N1). If you ask me, HTC bought crappy parts from its suppliers for the last generation of phones (HD2, N1) ...
Check these from the HD2 forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588925
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628018
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624280
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
wow...
So i guess i can return my phone then ?
i`ve also the same problem. on maxed out volume there is distortion. one step beyond max volume the distortion disappears. i`ve noticed it at first when i was calling someone on landline. hopefully there will be a software fix, but i`m afraid it`s poor speaker quality.
paratox said:
i`ve also the same problem. on maxed out volume there is distortion. one step beyond max volume the distortion disappears. i`ve noticed it at first when i was calling someone on landline. hopefully there will be a software fix, but i`m afraid it`s poor speaker quality.
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Yeah i think its poor speaker quality to . I'm not sure if i should return my phone tho.
It is only really noticable on max volume, and even then only on hard noises or hard voices. Thanks for your reply.
could some more poeple please test this? i'm wondering if many phones have this problem. Thanks!
anyone ?
Nipje said:
Can anyone of you test the following:
When you are calling with someone, and your calling volume is on the maximum (so the volume of the speaker that you hold against your ear). Can anyone notice a little crack from the speaker when the other person talks a bit loud or make's a loud noise? I'm wondering if there is something wrong with mine. With several tones the ear speaker cracks a little bit, like the sound is to loud or something.
Is it defective ?
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Could anyone please test this for me?
Nipje said:
Can anyone of you test the following:
When you are calling with someone, and your calling volume is on the maximum (so the volume of the speaker that you hold against your ear). Can anyone notice a little crack from the speaker when the other person talks a bit loud or make's a loud noise? I'm wondering if there is something wrong with mine. With several tones the ear speaker cracks a little bit, like the sound is to loud or something.
Is it defective ?
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could anyone help me with this please
I'm not sure whether you could define it as 'defective' or not, but I think all Nexus 1 phones have this issue.
I could be argued that it's just not up to the job of course and you could maybe return it on that basis if you want, but I don't think this is a specific issue with your device.
Bad speaker vs good speaker
I have the same crappy speaker build on my N1.. a friend also bought a N1 and his is crystal clear, so its not STANDARD that you get the junk one.
my guess is they have speakers from one supplier that built from several parts suppliers, or several suppliers of the speakers itself.
HTC is China company.. I love the place, but they're know for quantity, not quality.
Mine is being swapped for a DOA exchange.. let's hope this one is better.
Cheers
I'm leaning on upgrading to the Nexus S from the Nexus One, but have a few questions concerning noise cancellation. In the tech specs, the Nexus S states it has software noise cancellation. So is it safe to assume it uses software to remove background noise as opposed to the Nexus One which used a secondary mic? How is the software based noise cancellation on the Nexus S performing for people? Would love feedback. I work at a manufacturing plant, and being able to hold conversations in and around noisy equipment is a must. Last question is, does the built in VoIP stack on the Nexus S make use of the noise cancellation?
I would really appreciate the feedback.
I don't know, but in another thread someone posted that their new nexus s performed very bad in a noisy environment, unusable actually. So its worth investigating and owners posting their results for now.
I am pretty sure that "software noise cancellation" is bull****. they just didnt want to disappoint existing Nexus One owners. Maybe Gingerbread in general tries to improve sound quality, but it has nothing to do with Nexus S
I haven't been in a "plant" environment, but have been in a noisy office, and it has performed as well as the N1. I also frequently use the google chat voip calling feature that was added to gmail recently. It mentions "software based" noise canceling. If it's the NS uses the same, then it will be awesome.
How does your N1 perform in your plant environment? I'm guessing it also will have problems.
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How does your N1 perform in your plant environment? I'm guessing it also will have problems.
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The Nexus One performs great when it comes to noise cancellation. Never had anyone complain. I have tested the noise cancellation by leaving myself a voicemail on my work phone standing next to a centrifuge, and was shocked at the results. Not a hint of background noise. My voice was pronounced and clear, albeit a tad "digitized", which I'm sure is a side-effect of the noise cancellation. Only gripe I have is the low earpiece volume. Even on "full" blast, it's still too low in noisy environments.
I am having complaints from people I talk to using my nexus s. They say that it sounds like they are on speaker phone and that the call is nice and quiet until I start talking; which they say has a lot of static and background noise. Any other people getting complaints from people you talk to using your nexus s?
p.s. I work in a loud environment and never had issues using my N1.
I have commented on this in other threads. I've used a N1 since its launch. I returned my NS after having used it for 3 weeks as my primary phone. The main reason that I returned it is the lack of noise canceling, the ear speaker sounds tinny and on a busy street the traffic noise is picked up by the mic and broadcast in my ear. My N1's in call sound quality is far superior to the NS. The noise canceling really does a good job.
given that the Nexus S uses software noise cancellation instead of a secondary mic, is this something that may be able to be fixed with a new ROM or custom kernel?
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given that the Nexus S uses software noise cancellation instead of a secondary mic, is this something that may be able to be fixed with a new ROM or custom kernel?
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I doubt it, for noise canceling to work in an intelligent way, I would think there needs to be more than one mic. All of the noise canceling headsets I've seen have two mics, including my Jawbone bluetooth which has a button that rests on my cheek.
if you work in noisy environment don't buy this phone. I returned it only because of this problem. Every other problem that people complain here on this forum I didn't have and are nothing when it comes to phone calls. The primary function of the phone is the worst ever. Nobody hear me when I made phone calls from my car (driving, not using blue tooth - yes still legal in some countries) and I had to put the phone always on the speaker phone to be able to hear the other callers. Finally give up and returned the phone. Same isuue with my old Samsung i8910, but i was able to tweak the speaker settings in phone service software.
otherwise great phone.
I have found the that the NS works better than my N1 in general as a phone. The call quality is much better and the ear piece is MUCH better than the N1. N1 was hard to hear in anything above an avg room noise. NS I have to turn it down most of the time and much richer sound than the tin sound of the N1. Been in a few coffee shops that are loud and did calls in them. People on the other end said they could hear the background noise but it was very low and I was very loud and clear. Just my 2 cents.
I am going to try an exchange. I bought one of the first units sold at my local best buy on release morning so maybe I got a bad one. Friend of mine who bought just before me exchanged his and said his new one has much better call quality.
I am going to try to put this to the test. Although currently I am unhappy with the results I am getting recording wise.
The situation is that I own a Galaxy S GT-I9000 and often had complaints about sounding muffled. Now a Nexus S and the complaints are gone.
However. It is very difficult to understand an issue OTHER people are hearing, so I am doing some recording tests in different situations and I will be posting the results to http://technocrate.net in the next day or so.
I'm in the same boat with ya. I thought I was the only one. yeah perfect on the N1 now my wife says I sound garbled on the end. I changed the radio thought that would help but didn't. Just upgraded my from the N1 to the NS other wise the phone is great. I guess there's not a fix for this. I'll be returning mine then. even with the newest radio KI1, same way
Edit: Returning my second one, I'm done with this phone. I'm sad to see it go really like it beside the mic problem. Did samsung happen to fix this later on in a rev. batch?
Phone Fixed Post above
Well called samsung and they me told to send in my second phone in. I explained the issue about the mic to the tech which said they never heard about that issue. Ok well havent got a chance to make it home yet to test it but they replace more than just the mic:
Original Problem:
TECHNICAL INQUIRY - AUDIO/SPEAKER/SOUND/VIBRATION - SPEAKERPHONE NOT WORKING
Problem found:
RINGERTONE INAUDIBLE/NO ADJUST - CAMERA FAILURE - LOCK UP DURING OPERATION (SW)
Solution:
REPLACED COMPONENT - REPLACED COMPONENT - REPLACED PBA
Til i check it when I get home, just to let you guys know. The problem at the top, there system didn't have an option for the microphone. They replaced a lot of stuff but the mic only problem was the problem? I was liked its not the speaker just the mic to the tech. She said it was in the notes about the problem. I've been very happy with samsung trying to fix this issue. so far til i get home.
Good Afternoon,
This is my first time posting on a forum of any kind so please forgive any mistakes i make.
I recently purchased a Galaxy Tab 7.0 after exchanging 5 of them with Best Buy due to a screen defect (Dust under glass and stuck pixels). I am noticing that when the speaker is at full volume the some higher pitched sound sound tinny. I wanted to ask so fellow owners if this a just an issue with the quality of the speaker across all devices or if my device specifically has a issue. I will attach a sound clip of the issue or concern (but i doubt will be of any help).
Thank you to all !!!!!!!
On the Essential website is says that the phone has four microphones: "4x microphones with noise cancellation and beam forming."
I'm wondering how this affects call quality for noise cancellation (and if all four microphones are in fact used in calls--or is it just used for detecting voice commands). Has anyone tested how well the phone cancels out background noise? In other words, when you are in a noisy place, how much of the noise does your caller on the other end of the line hear?
In-call noise cancellation is an area with phones that has really languished and in fact mostly gone backwards, technologically. I still haven't seen a phone with better noise cancellation than my Nexus One (that used the amazing Audience chip, which no one uses anymore--because Qualcomm includes a noise cancellation function in their chipsets now, which is not as good, but, well, comes with the chipset at no extra cost.)
Secondarily, how is audio recording quality in videos?
Thanks for any feedback.
I would also love an answer to this. Reviews almost never mention how clear or understandable you are to people you call anymore.
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I would also love an answer to this. Reviews almost never mention how clear or understandable you are to people you call anymore.
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Have not had one complaint coming from a S7 and G6 the essential is fantastic.
O wanna know where the 4 mics are! We've obviously got one on the bottom by the SIM, and one by the camera.
Where are the other 2? Perhaps one in each speaker grill (earpiece and large speaker)?