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Guys - this has been updated here
Guys -
Before installation:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
After Install:
In use:
Dual functionality:
Ok, this is still beta, but works fine on my system.
it's an extension of the ToggleToday idea, so before getting excited, go and have a read of that (although, look at the pictures first to see if you like what you see). They are not the same program, although they work nicely, and indeed best with each other.
Theory: I don't like all the junk on my today screen, so ToggleToday, my previous program, removed the menu bar from the bottom of the screen.
The new program, ToggleStart, carries this theme futher.
The start bar, ie the bar at the top of the screen on your PPC, carries a number of functions that are useful in phoneedition, ie Signal strength, GPRS status (the G we all hate) and clock and volume.
However, after ToggleToday, there was some discussion about extending the Today screen to be even more useful; hence, ToggleStart, which does just that: it toggles display of the bar at the top of the screen.
Now, this would usually be useless, and is certainly not necessary if you use somethink like WISBar. But read on:
What if we hide the Startbar, but show something more useful instead - we're going to show the Today screen. So, clicking on ToggleStart will hide the bar and show through your Today screen at the top of every window. This, again, would normally be useless.
But, look at the example PhoneAlarm skin I've used and supplied.
This is configured to mimic much of the normal Start Bar functionality, but to be more useful. You aren't restricted to using my phone alarm skin, and if you've got a more important Today screen plugin to show, stick it at the top of your Today Plugins and it'll show through. But Phonealarm for me:
So, what happens:
Your StartBar actually shrinks to 2 pixels high. So the very top 2 pixels of your screen are the start bar, and work in the same way as normal. this is important, because you won't be able to see the OK/Close button and the volume buttons etc any more. But, if you know where they are, click just above them, at the top of the screen, and you'll click them.
This is IMPORTANT - remember, to click ok/close, click just above the Signal strength indicator (ie, where the normal OK button would be, but just above it, right at the top of the screen).
This is true for all of the normal start bar functionality. It's all there, but right at the top of the screen. This takes a bit of getting used to, but works. Also, this means that you've got twice the functionality - clicking on volume on my phonealarm skin will set phonealarm profiles, but just above it will set volume etc.
This is a toggle. Click once, the magic happens. Click once again, it unhappens and everything's back to normal. It won't eat your machine or anything, but worst case, SOFT reset. Don't put it in your startup folder unless you can rescue yourself. I don't use it like this, but you might want to.
Anyway, I recommend this:
-Install phonealarm and put it at the top of your today plugins. Ensure it works.
-Unzip my PhoneAlarm skin to your \Programfiles\phonealarm directory.
-Go to phone alarm and enable my skin VJTinyToday_min.skn
Ensure it works (note - clicking on the left few pixels on my skin will enable configuration. Clicking on the OS X icon will toggle to message display (this has some bugs due to phonealarm, not me). NOTE the phone alarm skin is beta - I'm not sure if the battery and signal strength are perfect yet, I did it at 4am, but I think it works. Feedback welcome.
-Optionally (and recommended) use ToggleToday. Use this BEFORE ToggleStart if you're going to use it, otherwise your screen will go funny.
-Click on ToggleStart. Hopefully now, you should be able to use my phonealarm skin all the time. Hope it's useful.
-You may need to refresh your screen - go to another app, and then back to Today Screen to see the finished product.
It's easy to recolour the skin. I'm enclosing my CETuner color theme, but basically the blue colour is RGB 207,147,247. Recolour in paint or anything!
It's a beta version - I'm going to join this to ToggleToday to do both in one, or either/or, as desired.
I don't know if anyone finds this useful. i don't know if I do yet! But give it a go and feedback! SCREENSHOTS please.
V
CAB
EXE
PhoneAlarm Skin (note, this only has icons for Home, Work, Meeting (rename it to silent in phonealarm profiles) and Flight. Feel free to make more if you need them) Clicking on the very left edge of phonealarm will bring up the config dialog. Clicking on the OSX icon will switch to message info view (if you've received text message, it'll show you the text of it etc).
CETuner Scheme
:!: Note: read the warnings on ToggleToday on the other thread if you haven't already. Basically, don't put it in your startup folder - wait for your PDA to load up and finish, go to the Today screen, and then run it.
:!: Note 2: ToggleToday doesn't work with WinMobile 2005, and neither program works in VGA. Don't say I didn't warn you. I'll work on this at some point.
- remember, ToggleToday BEFORE ToggleStart, and OK button is still in the normal place, just right at the top of the screen (above signal strength).
V
RE
Hi vijay555,
Thanks
There is a problem though. I'm using MS voice command to activate both your programs.
When I activate the ToggleStart the top bar was hidden and my phonealarm bar moves to the top. Splendid as I've more scrfeen real estate! :lol:
When I activate the ToggleToday the bottom bar was hidden. Great! Now the problem comes in that the phonealarm bar moves downward and duplicates itself ie. I have now 2 phonealarm bar :roll:
In order to get back to original top bar I'll have to activate ToggleStart TWICE!
Can you solve this issue? I'm using O2 XDAII with WM2003se.
Thanks again.
RE
Hi vijay555,
Another problem.
If I'll to open a program how do I close it. Your last screenshot is a good example. Other program shows a 'OK' button on the top right hand corner to close that program which is missing if I'll to use ToggleStart. Try going into the Display Settings of phonealarm after you activated the ToggleStart and you'll know what I mean.
Can something be done?
Thanks
FOSA - thanks for the tip about ToggleToday before ToggleStart. I've changed the post to reflect this - use ToggleToday first, (if you want to use it, it's not needed, although is recommended).
Then run ToggleStart.
I don't know about voice command, don't use it (anymore) but so long as you follow the same warnings about ToggleToday (ie don't put it in your startup folder) you should be ok. Don't put either one in the startup folder.
Shortly I'll be joining these two progs together, and will make the ToggleToday functionality a bit more robust, right now it's a bit dopey, but works perfectly for me to do what it's supposed to do.
Regarding the OK button - when writing the looong post yesterday, i had made sure I'd written about this, but I've highlighted it above about 5 times now!
Basically: toggleStart shrinks your start bar down to the TOP 2 pixels of the screen, all the way along. So you want to click ok? Click ok - it's still there, but only 2 pixels high. So, to do this, click directly above the signal strength indicator. Obviously you can't see the ok/close button now, (and you might want to edit a theme or something to make it easier to find 'blind'), but it's still there. So, as indicated, all of the start bar functions are there, but in the top 2 pixels. So click on the left above the OS X icon to get the normal Start Menu. Click on the OS X icon to switch skins. Click on profiles to change phonealarm profile. Click above it to change the PDA's volume.
See if this works. If you have problems, back to the drawing board
V
RE
Hi vijay555,
Thanks.
Finally, I found what you were explaining about closing screen, however, the duplicate phonealarm bars problem still exists.
ToggleToday and ToggleStart programs are put in the Program Files folder
OK, here's how the problem appear. Without using MS Voice Command,
a) activated TodayToggle - bottom bar hidden
b) activated TodayStart - top bar hidden (phonealarm bar moves up)
c) activated TodayToggle again - bottom bar appears and now I have duplicate phonealarm bar
So, there's no problem with MS Voice Command and its not related to where I put the files ToggleToday and ToggleStart in my case
Can you check? Thanks
So from a fresh today screen:
To load:
1. Load toggle today - bottom bar disappears.
2. Load ToggleStart - top bar disappears and becomes slightly messy. (now change away to any other window, and come back, and it should look correct).
Finished!
To unload:
1. Load togglestart FIRST.
2. Then load toggletoday.
It should all work nicely then.
The order is important; later versions will do both jobs in one.
Glad you worked out where the buttons where! I managed to get home to do the screenshot.
V
is it just me but why has nobody asked you for that really smart phone alarm skin,
anychance i can get a copy?
fuzzysb - obviously I'm doing something wrong:
there's a link already posted to about 500pages :!: down my first post.
It's a skin I knocked together. It works very nicely with this hack (it's designed to align with the normal start functions, so you can use both at the same time - eg click phonealarm profile=set profile. Click above it=set volume), but perfectly fine on it's own.
I spoke to Bruce, the guy that made phonealarm, and soon-ish he'll be putting a clock onto phonealarm, so the skin will be even more useful.
I'm working on a new version of this hack. Clearly no one's interested in using it so far! It works great on my system tho
V
PS you weren't the first to ask
yeah i have just seen it, you are not doing something wrong it is just that i am a thick t**t
vijay555 said:
I'm working on a new version of this hack. Clearly no one's interested in using it so far! It works great on my system tho
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am interested... saw you post on the phoneAlarm skin page..
Looks like a great program, just waiting til I get some time to run a backup before installing ;-)
Is it possible to run something like SPB Plus in the background? and phoneAlarm in the middle?
sphinx88 - you have my assurance you don't need a backup
It doesn't do anything other than graphical, so worst case, soft reset will get you back on your feet. But, the basic advice:
Code:
-don't put ToggleToday in your startup folder
-Run Toggletoday first.
-Then run ToggleStart
To Unload:
-Run ToggleStart
-Run ToggleToady
Simple eh?
I think i've made it sound a hell of a lot more confusing than it needs to be!
Each program is distinct and optional from the other, depending on the effect you want - no top bar, no bottom bar, or no either bar!
How do you mean about SPBPlus?
ToggleStart actually just shrinks the start bar to the top 2 pixels of your PDA. Then in the gap left behind, you can see your Todayscreen. So you can stick anything you want in the remaining 24 pixels, I use my phonealarm skin, but you can put SPB Plus there. It'd be quite a good idea, but you can't see a lot in 24 pixels high! Phonealarm is perfect, maybe a launcher app, anything really, (eg your scheduler?), just remember you've only got 24 pixels to play with.
If you use it, please post screenshots. I'm interested to see how people play with this!
v
OK We are loaded and Working Well!
This also give me some great ideas for skins... Your is perfect for working on the PDA with a stylus, but when I am driving, I like the big buttons. WOuld you mind if I modified your skin with a Large and Small version?
Tested a couple of skins they all preform well. Great LITTLE LITTLE program!
I think Phone Alarm lets you execute programs, I may use something that is triggered by differnet modes.
FYI - Running and XV6600 Verizon.. No problems seems stable.
Of course - good idea. Don't know if it's really practical that small though - it's just a "shortcut" to the today screen really.
Use phonealarm's change skin on profile, and make a nice chunky skin.
I'd suggest you make one that works so that you can always see the basics at the top, and when you switch to the today screen, you reveal the rest of the skin as a nice chunky affair?
Please post screenshots!
V
Found Little Bug..
I use PocketBreeze... When ever I recieve a phone call or make a phone call, the Settings pops up through what every applciation I am on.
I will try and post a screen shot later..
this is great! I love it!
running ToggleStart & PhoneAlarm on wm2005...
thanx
buzz
ps: I guess i'll buy the PhoneAlarm....
buzz_lightyear :shock:
You use your WM2005 right? My other program, toggletoday, wouldn't be useful for you. It gives a nice fullscreen Today on < WM2005
Re: PocketBreeze don't have it. Try to post screenshots. Will have a look at it shortly.
V
RE
Hi vijay555
The icons for the ToggleStart and ToggleToday are the same color and design. This pose a problem when I put them side-by-side in a launcher bar.
Do you think you can either change the color or the design for one of them?
Thanks
FOSA - icons have been changed.
Uninstall the old version (probably not necessary if you haven't moved them) and redownload the cab from the link above as before.
Reinstall, and you may have to soft reset to get the system to pick up the new icons.
V
RE
Thanks. Got it!
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yeah, phoneAlarm is running on wm2005, but not counting msgs....
toggleStart runs cool. and it's useful to have it assigned to hw button...
thanx
buzz
30 June 2006:
Please note:
ToggleNew, ToggleStart and ToggleToday are WM2003 apps ONLY.
VJToggleToday II alpha is WM5 only. You can download the alpha release here. But please read the thread from the end, backwards, to find out its limitations.
Remember that you can launch it with the command line
Code:
-config
to show the settings.
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23 Oct 2005 Guys, this is a newer beta version. Read second page of thread for info
Guys:
This is hopefully the new and slightly improved version of my today screen hacks seen here and here.
This version is hopefully startup folder safe - I drop it into my startup folder and it does the business quite safely.
- This has been only tested on PPC2003; it should work fine on all PPCs.
- I'm not sure what it will do on WM2005 - Buzz, anyone? It should be fine at removing the Start Bar on WM2005 - but you don't have the equivalent New bar to remove to begin with.
- ToggleStart should work fine on VGA, but ToggleNew will not.
Try it - tell me if it crashes out. Don't put it in your start folder until you know it works. If it works, great!
I don't think this is Wisbar compatible, read page 3 of the thread!
So recall: this program or suite of programs can remove the New bar at the bottom of the today screen. It can also remove the start bar at the top of the screen, shrinking it down to 2 pixels for use in the following manner with PhoneAlarm or your weapon of choice:
After Installation of ToggleNew:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
After Installation of ToggleStart:
ToggleStart in use:
Dual functionality - tiny start bar at the top of the screen, alongside PhoneAlarm:
Please uninstall the old version of VJToggleStuff before installing the new version.
CAB version
Individual .exe if required:
ToggleNew
ToggleStart
TodayToggle
Ok - so the cab should install 3 files into \program files\VJSoft\
it should also make some shortcuts in your Programs Menu.
We have 3 files:
BEGINNERS guide:
ToggleNew.exe will Toggle on and off the "New" bar at the bottom of your today screen.
ToggleStart.exe will Toggle on and off the Start bar at the TOP of your today screen. PLEASE ensure you know how to use the shrunken Start bar - it's still there, but tiny and along the top edge. OK button is still where it should be, top right corner of the screen (see the screenshots above). Please read the old threads to get the idea, or just try it! Soft reset if you get stuck.
Beginners can ignore TodayToggle.exe.
ADVANCED USERS:
TodayToggle.exe The three files are actually the same program - but some people will like to assign them to a hardware key to toggle things on and off on a whim so I've made ToggleNew and ToggleStart toggle the single item. However, TodayToggle will, by default, toggle BOTH the New bar and the Start bar at the same time - if that's what you want and know how to use the shrunken start bar.
However, the programs take a command line option if you are secure with creating shortcuts:
Code:
TodayToggle.exe menu
will toggle the New menu bar ONLY
Code:
TodayToggle.exe start
will toggle the Start bar ONLY
Code:
TodayToggle.exe both
or
Code:
TodayToggle.exe
will toggle both at the same time
If you're confident in creating shortcuts, you can get rid of ToggleNew.exe and ToggleStart.exe, and just use TodayToggle.exe with command lines.
Note that TodayToggle.exe also contains three icons, so using something like claunch or a shortcut you can assign the Min, Max and UpDown icons as appropriate.
/end of advanced user guide
All:
I hope you find these useful. Read the old threads to get the hang of what you can do with it.
You can get my phonealarm skin from here. Please read this thread to read how to use it with ToggleStart.
I consider this software beta until you guys report back and say it's ok or worst case, it turned your PDA into a Nokia.
Don't forget - after installing these hacks you'll need a bigger wallpaper to fill the extra space! If you don't, the wallpaper tiles itself.s
Also - if you use something like SPB battery monitor at the top of the screen, you won't be able to use a shrunken Start Bar (ie ToggleStart) correctly. Disable it or read this thread
Please post screenshots if you do anything nice with this stuff.
Vijay
August 31 2005:
- SIP keyboard panel issue [Grumble's post]. It will hide itself in normal use
Nice work Vijay but (you knew it was coming didnt ya) the function I wanted this app for was the Hide New. When I run it, 'new' disappears as expected but leaves a white line in its place. Also if I exit an app it leaves the input button showing (see screenshot).
Is this something to do with the size of the bitmaps created for themes ?
Oh well a nice app anyway and Im sure I can get used to the white line
Yep Grumble, this issue is posted on the old threads - I'll update the first post to remind users - you now need a bigger wallpaper to fill the screen :wink:
The white line was actually on your wallpaper to begin with! The PPC tiles the wallpaper if it's not big enough - so it's actually repeating your wallpaper, white line and all. The white line is actually hidden behind the start bar at the top of your screen normally. Try running togglestart to see!
I've noticed the keyboard input thing - it seems to disappear in normal usage.
V
The case here is that your wallpaper ain't big enough. PLease remember when the people made their TSK, they did not put into consideration that the bottom bar could be knocked off. I have the same problem but I just made a way to cover it up. As for the keyboard being there, I noticed this problem comes when you have MortPlayer installed and when you hit the red phone button to take it off your screen. Basically it leaves the keyboard item there.
Mvmajorem - did you try the new version?
I had to rewrite the thing from scratch in Visual Studio 2005. I'm not sure if I screwed anything up on the way.
V
I've tried the new plugin and it does leave the keyboard behind ruining what you wanted to achieve in the first place.
Still thanks for the release, the icon you used now is better, that is all i can say.
BTW, is there a way to make the Start Bar transparent or even change the Start button icon without the use of 3rd party software.
Guys, if the keyboard icon comes up, try pressing the green call button and then going back. It should be gone. I might look into this issue if it's a big problem.
Transparent start bar - kinda possible, but not without some 3rd party software as far as I know. I might look into knocking something together, but I'm working on a couple of other hacks and something that might make ToggleToday even more useful I hope. It's more important right now
V
Vijay,
I've gone back to the older version. I like it much better without the keyboard sticking out.
I love the program!
BTW: Where can I learn to make these kinds of software?
offtopic
vijay555 sorry but...
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BTW...in wm5
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tnx,
jojo
xda2jojo - what's wrong with Imelda?
I'm using an old screenshot so it's always the same quote!
I've got 500 of them altogether
The WM2005 version - works ok?
Mvmajorem - I'll look into the keyboard issue. I don't think it happens with the old version right? If not, it should be easy to fix.
V
vijay555 said:
xda2jojo - what's wrong with Imelda?
I'm using an old screenshot so it's always the same quote!
I've got 500 of them altogether
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nothin' wrong but she mess-up our country with huge debt...and she is still free!
vijay555 said:
The WM2005 version - works ok?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup! i notice that its freezes my today receiving sms...nevertheless...
tnx,
jojo
Vijay
This is great. The two combined and on one hardware button.
This is my screen ;
Kill Bob, Mick, Harry - any of them, I just don't care !!!
Rick GM - lovely!
I've got a couple more refinements to make... will try and keep you posted.
Rick - did you notice the problem with the SIP (keyboard icon) with the previous version? I'm not really doing anything different with this version, but the SIP icon pops up occassionally. I can force it to hide, but it would require reworking the program into something that will eat CPU. I don't want that - if you find the problem, just press the green key (call button) and go back and it should be gone.
I've had to enlarge my NotesToday as well because there's so much more room now!
It seems like no one is interested in my new program which goes nicely with a fresh Today screen - it causes the today to pop up on hardware keypress, but only stay onscreen for as long as you hold the button. So eg you're in Contacts, but want to check NotesToday, you can pop into Today and back again to Contacts with no clicks.
Keep posting screenshots and/or problems! :wink:
V
Vijay
The keyboard icon does stay after you close an application but I just press my Toggle hardware button twice (diasble/enable) and it's gone.
Haven't tried the new app yet but am more than happy with the functionalityof what you've already done!
Does anybody know - where to get this plugin?
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Is it normal that after a soft reset,the files are gone?!!!
vijay555
Could you please pack your skin in cab file, i don't understand how to install it. Thank you in advance!
Vijay,
Anyway you can address the keyboard issue ? That did not exist with your previous version.
BTW, this works awesome is start up. Had not had issue with it at all.
Please! Solve the SIP issue, it s really annoying. It s good app!
Guys,
This program is BETA
It only works on the English WM2003 Rom, and QVGA only (for now)
Backup your system and give it a go, it can't do anything dangerous, worst case just soft reset. But backup just in case :wink:
Ok, as of writing WM2005 might be out on Magician, so I'm distracted.
But, this is a minor advancement of a proof of concept I put up here.
This version has a major improvement. Read and see...
On loading up, you will see some tiny dots in the top left. It can't be moved for now, and you can't change the image for now (you can use a resource hacker if you want)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
In normal use it does nothing. If the dots are active they will show the current time and Battery level.
Clicking on the dots will bring up your New Bar - the bar that is normally at the bottom of your Today screen! This means that you can access the New menu or bluetooth or activesync etc from your normal screen. Click it again to go back to your Start Bar. This hack is particularly useful will my TodayToggle program.
Ok: clicking and holding on the dots will bring up a menu. There's only one active option - Reminders.
Don't you hate it when reminders pop up and block you doing anything else? You don't want to snooze it, you just want to go back to betaplayer etc? Click on the option "Reminders" and the current active reminder will be "ghosted" (it won't do anything until there's a reminder on screen)
The reminders will not now bother you. However, to bring the reminders back up, choose the "reminders" option from the menu again, and it will come back up! Note the little alarm icon in the New Bar? That shows that you've got outstanding reminders.
Finally: piece de resistance
Reminders eh? Why where all the buttons so small? You have to take your stylus out just to click "Dismiss"? Who designed this thing? :roll:
So:
There's a slight delay before the buttons are changed, but hopefully it makes sense. BTW - "All!" means dismiss all. I couldn't fit anything else in
So, whadya think?
This is beta. There's more to add to this program, but I hope it's useful.
Note: it's likely to have some minor CPU usage. If you don't want it, don't use it.
Please provide feedback!
HideStart
If you "lose" the dots, try reloading it. If that doesn't work, close it by going To Settings > System > Memory.
I don't know if it works with Wisbar etc. Try it and report!
V
Could you make it so the close button is not there ? (The cross on the top-right when its active)
You could then close by clicking on the 'dots' and selecting,.. say EXIT, or shutdown option.
Also, when closing down, maybe restoring the New menu ??
Will start to have a play.
Jim.....
I know the snooze button relates to the Snooze combo but, to me, the large buttons should be the All and Snooze, with the Dismiss being the small (or perhaps equal) size - better for hitting in the half light. The large ones should be at the bottom left and right for similar reasons (easier to hit).
nice, as always!!!
buzz
thanks for that
On my S100 with french rom it didn't work very well !
When i load hidestart i can see the time and battery indicators but the dots aren't there !
I've also tried a reminder and the buttons are not changed ! If your hack works like Mamaich hack for the phonedialer it doesn't work maybe because the title of the reminder window is different between roms ( "reminder" in the english rom but "rappel" in the french rom ).
It's just an idea ..
Switchcorp - good point, this is all English right now; I'll update the first post to indicate. If you send me the name of the "Reminder" window, and the exact text on Dismiss, Dismiss All, Snooze (button) and "Snooze:" text I'll try to update it, although probably not before my holiday
I don't understand why you can't see the dots. Did you try launching it again? If you "lose" it, you have to close it with Settings > System > Memory.
Are you using anything like Wisbar etc?
jimbo123 - when closing down it should restore the new menu to it's original state I hope. Please indicate if it doesn't.
I'm going to work on putting a "close" icon on the reminder itself, so instead of having to go to the Menu > Reminders option, there'll automatically be a "close" button to press and hide the reminders. But I got tired last night, so had to leave it!
mtbsoft - I understand about the buttons, and I'll happily reconfigure them, but remember that the All button is only shown if there's more than one reminder active, so you'll only have the Snooze and Dismiss buttons with <2 reminders. The reminder text box can't be made wider because the blue highlight is hardcoded to that width, so I don't have much space to play with
Buzz - get back to work :wink:
Translation :
"Reminder" window -> "Rappel"
"Dismiss" -> "Effacer"
"Dismiss All" -> "Effacer tout"
Snooze (button) -> "Répéter"
"Snooze:" -> "Répéter:" ( i suppose it's the time box ? )
I've tried again by redownloading hidestart ... i see the dots but after the "new bar" moves i've a bug on the bottow of my screen and hidestart is crashed !
I've soft reseted but i can't see the dots anymore ... it's very strange
Switchcorp - thanks for the info, I'll try to put it in.
I don't quite understand about the bug and the crash. Don't use it on your ROM for now, it can't do anything useful (I think the hiding startbar feature also uses English names, I don't have the code in front of me right now).
General:
Are you using anything like Wisbar?
This interface is only very temporary. The functionality will go into another program I'm writing, but I thought the Reminder button hack was useful so put it out now. The dots work well on my colour theme and the position is convenient....
Sorry it doesn't work Switch!
V
I've forgot to say that i don't use any soft like wisbar !
The only hack that i've done is the time under the date ( instead of the time only ).
Soft i use : Phonealarm, Alarm Today, Phone dashboard and PHM tray lauch and SPB Pocket plus.
Only those are active !
No problem vijay555 I like your work and if i can help to improve your app's i'll be happy !
Hidestart is a good companion of the microsoft voice command i think For me it is very usefull
I'll wait that it works with the french roms !
I've tried to desactivate all my today plugins but it doesn't change anything
I'm glad you find some of it useful at least!
Today plugins won't make any difference, i'm sure it's the way I find the windows using the English names... I'll have to find french rom for the emulator I think...
I've got a nice Today Plugin I'm making. Some will find it useful. But i've no time to release it right now :wink: Soon.
V
Guys, I've just noticed a bug on my version (I'm using a different version to the one released here). Can you try writing something using the soft keyboard, eg editing a schedule or something, for longer then 5 seconds.
Does it work correctly? On mine HideStart is stealing focus, ie stopping you writing after a couple of seconds. Feedback if possible please!
V
Hi vijay555,
I also, like full screen and am using your toggle Today program. the HideStart didn’t work in my JAM (Arabic Windows)
I would suggest auto hide for both Start Bar and new Bar after a few second
in today screen and when there is any activity like new message, missed call
or so, the Start Bar only will show up till you clear it then it goes back to hide
again. I think this will be very nice. I assigned Start Menu to one of the Hard
Button and would be nice to have both start Bar and New Bar to show up
when pressing this Hard button!!!
Do you mind spreading your programs in other forum and mention your
name and post???
Thanks and Appreciated,
ksasat
ksasat:
Feel free to distribute any of my stuff anywhere, although try to mention my name and get people to post problems on XDA forums (ie here!)
You should be aware that Hidestart seems to cause a minor problem for me; I use a different version to the one here, so maybe that's the problem, but it seems to take focus while you're typing a message or something after a few seconds. Now one else mentioned this, so as I said, this release is just an idea and if it works for you, great! Please post here and say it works fine. But if not, please indicate here so I can look into it when I get back.
TodayToggle (the latest one) toggle start bar and new bar at the same time using one program. HideStart is English only for now - you'll have to get me the same info supplied by Switchcorp (ie arabic names).
Take care!
V
Hi vijay555
All sorts of problems with this, I'm afraid.
I can launch it ok and the dots appear, I tap them and the new bar moves up to the top... and that's it - no more functionality. I'm using Pocket Plus and think the close/minimise function might be interferring with it. It is still running but I can't do anything with it.
Assuming I can get it working, I'd like to suggest a couple of other changes...
Make the time and battery display optional, I have them visible via other methods and would prefer to see 'Start'.
Make the application 'invisible' to task lists such as Pocket Plus, SmallMenuPlus and RunningPrograms - I think this is part of the problems I'm suffering, it is an application and not a process.
I'll keep trying different combinations to see if I can get it working (and identify why/how).
Congrat's and enjoy the honeymoon!
Congratulation and have fun.
Regards,
ksasat
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Guys,
This program is BETA
It only works on the English WM2003 Rom, and QVGA only (for now)
Backup your system and give it a go, it can't do anything dangerous, worst case just soft reset. But backup just in case :wink:
Ok, as of writing WM2005 might be out on Magician, so I'm distracted.
But, this is a minor advancement of a proof of concept I put up here.
This version has a major improvement. Read and see...
On loading up, you will see some tiny dots in the top left. It can't be moved for now, and you can't change the image for now (you can use a resource hacker if you want)
In normal use it does nothing. If the dots are active they will show the current time and Battery level.
Clicking on the dots will bring up your New Bar - the bar that is normally at the bottom of your Today screen! This means that you can access the New menu or bluetooth or activesync etc from your normal screen. Click it again to go back to your Start Bar. This hack is particularly useful will my TodayToggle program.
Ok: clicking and holding on the dots will bring up a menu. There's only one active option - Reminders.
Don't you hate it when reminders pop up and block you doing anything else? You don't want to snooze it, you just want to go back to betaplayer etc? Click on the option "Reminders" and the current active reminder will be "ghosted" (it won't do anything until there's a reminder on screen)
The reminders will not now bother you. However, to bring the reminders back up, choose the "reminders" option from the menu again, and it will come back up! Note the little alarm icon in the New Bar? That shows that you've got outstanding reminders.
Finally: piece de resistance
Reminders eh? Why where all the buttons so small? You have to take your stylus out just to click "Dismiss"? Who designed this thing? :roll:
So:
There's a slight delay before the buttons are changed, but hopefully it makes sense. BTW - "All!" means dismiss all. I couldn't fit anything else in
So, whadya think?
This is beta. There's more to add to this program, but I hope it's useful.
Note: it's likely to have some minor CPU usage. If you don't want it, don't use it.
Please provide feedback!
HideStart
If you "lose" the dots, try reloading it. If that doesn't work, close it by going To Settings > System > Memory.
I don't know if it works with Wisbar etc. Try it and report!
V
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Vijay,
Any luck for WM 5.0 Users.
Cheers Taurus
You guys already have soft keys. But I'll see, I need to find out if I can hack the notification balloons for both for VJSihaya anyway.
V
Hello XDA-ers!! Updates Recently Made 2/26/2009 4:20 PM US Mountain Time
I have a concept for an interface replacement for Windows Mobile. I've made a Youtube video showing what it would look like, but the video is just some screenshots that are stiched together to make a vid. If I could get the help of developers,then I could make this a reality.
The Youtube Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Iw7Z4-Rho
The video is just of the Lock Screen, and I haven't even put in the unlocking animation, just the sliding to unlock thing.
How this interface works:
So, you turn on your phone, and you're greeted with this unlock screen:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(Hopefully the picture above worked)
Updated 2/26/2009 4:20 PM US Mountain Time
If you had another program open when you turned off your phone, then your lock screen would have the program in the background instead of your wallpaper. So, if you had Internet Explorer running and then you turned your phone off, the next time you turn your phone on, you'll see this screen:
To unlock, you just drag the Start icon outside of the blue region as seen in the Youtube clip. Once it's outside of the blue region, you release, and the blue region and Start icon will disappear. Then you can begin using your phone. Here's the Internet Explorer unlocked:
The scroll bars in the Internet Explorer are for guidance only. You use kinetic scrolling to get around the page just like Skyfire or the iPhone browser. At the top of the page is the URL bar. Then on the left, in order, is the Back button, Foward button, Reload button, Home button, Favorites, and then other websites that are bookmarked to the side bar like msn, google, xda-dev, and cnet.
If you don't touch the screen after a few seconds, say 3 seconds, then all of the icons and scroll bars will disappear, leaving your webpage wide open to explore:
Yet you still may notice that in each corner there is a low glowing color, representing the 4 orbs. The top left is glowing orange, right green, bottom left blue, right yellow. This represents the four colors in the Start icon, if you noticed. The low glow from the corner tells the user that the menus are hidden but they are still there and accessible. The user would just tap the screen or move the webpage to bring up all of the menus.
If you want to go straight to your phone, then you can just drag the Start icon from the lock screen up to the phone, and it will start your phone. Same with the other icons.
Here's all of the icons labeled for the first unlock screen:
Phone Icon - Displays number of missed calls/voicemails. When clicked on, it shows missed calls/voicemails, contacts, history, dialer, etc.
Messaging Icon - Displays number of missed TXT's, Emails, and even Instant Messages. When clicked on, shows your missed messages, gives other messaging options, etc.
Notifications Icon - Displays number of any other notifications such as appointments, alarms, and tasks. When clicked on, it shows you the notifications, allows you to take action, etc.
Programs Icon - When clicked on, it allows you to launch programs, plus it shows your running programs so that you can easily close or switch to them.
The Orb icons in the corners will always be up in every program unless a program specifies them to hide. The Orb interface will completely replace the Windows Mobile interface. The interface is completely touch and finger friendly.
Go HERE to see an idea of what an incoming call would look like.
I need help to make this interface become a reality. I don't know programming and I could use help with icon design. If any of you can help me with this, then that would be great. I would love to see this interface rise up to the top with PointUI and others.
So write me a reply in this thread or anything. I need the help.
Thanks so much for watching the video and looking at the pics,
Andrew
I like the concept too bad I know nothing about programing!
wow
it's very beautiful!
this looks like it could be a good concept for a wisbar desktop skin
wow!look great!
I'm thinking about trying to get A_C to help code it. He has done some good stuff with his S2U2 and S2P and everything.
Thanks for taking interest in this though, I'll give you guys a beta version when there is a beta
Andrew
Keland44 said:
this looks like it could be a good concept for a wisbar desktop skin
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I've also thought about using Wisbar Desktop but I want something that would be a full interface replacement, something thats really smooth, flashy, and beautiful. I could make a quick Wisbar theme, but I want this to be similar to PointUI's original interface.
Developers, where are you? lol. I guess I'll spend my rodeo break learning C++ or whatever you code in. Just kiddin, that would be a long rodeo break.
Honestly developers, anyone out there?
Keep up the hype about this though, it helps.
Thx everyone,
Andrew
I like the concept, it brings everything to the desktop in a very simple way. Though i have a remark. The arrangement should be different in my opinion. The start-menu should be upper left and the notifications and messages should be in the lower right and left corner.
The start menu should be there because in your current proposition you break with the position of the start menu of the OS. If the upper left corner is the best place can be questioned. But by not breaking with the way the OS is structured you are making your desktop replacement easier to get used to.
The messages and notifications should be at the lower end of the screen because they "belong together". By putting them on the lower bar, they will "work together".
Though you could always let the user choose
This seems similar to the TAT concept that Meizu M8 copied (or was it vice versa? I don't think so).
See here for their unlocking ideas:
http://www.tat.se/site/showroom/prototypes_movies2.html
I think the "Boing" one is the prettiest.
Ufufu said:
This seems similar to the TAT concept...
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Yes the unlock thing is similar to TAT's drag and drop unlock or some of their others. TAT has some real amazing stuff, I think it inspired me some, but i thought of the original design of the 4 orbs in the corners way before I saw TAT.
If only TAT gave us some of their sweet stuff that they design.
EnsconcE said:
The start-menu should be upper left and the notifications and messages should be in the lower right and left corner.
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That's a good idea for the start menu since it's familiar with Windows Mobile, but my plan for this interface is for it to completely replace the Windows Mobile interface, so you would never see the original Start Menu again.
I haven't thouroughly thought out the icon placement yet, I worked up these rough images just this morning in about 3 hours.
Thanks for the comment, I'll consider upper right!
Andrew
the tat stuff looks pretty nice definately interesting in see how this comes along
ace maybe if you look into some of the code for pontui you might be able to implement this with some work i think pontui is something like html or xml or something like that
Keland44 said:
maybe if you look into some of the code for pontui you might be able to implement this with some work i think pontui is something like html or xml or something like that
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I've also considered PointUI. Yet, I think the best way to make a perfected interface would be to write all of the code custom.
Thanks for writing, and yea, the PointUI 2 does have more customizability so I could look into that as an option.
Andrew
why would you do anything that looks like msn explorer?
meccax5 said:
why would you do anything that looks like msn explorer?
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That looks like msn explorer???
That picture that your talking about is the internet browser, which is visiting the site msn.com
Some of the icons used in the internet browser are from Internet Explorer 8, but most of them are custom created. The theme was all created by me, I haven't seen msn explorer for ages.
Anyways I use msn for my mail, so I chose that webpage cuz that's how i get to my mail.
Andrew
even those buttons on the corners look too early 2000's Windows. Not the icons but rather the color scheme in general. I dunno its just my opinion.
meccax5 said:
even those buttons on the corners look too early 2000's Windows. Not the icons but rather the color scheme in general. I dunno its just my opinion.
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Yea I could agree with that, I made the icons in Word 2007, so I didn't expect anything spectacular.
When do the developers sign on? Or are they all busy making other stuff?
I like the concept, and I'm very willing to try and make it a reality. Once I get a phone, lol! I'm getting paid next week, so hopefully if everything goes as planned I'll have a new toy to start developing on!
thundershadow14 said:
I like the concept, and I'm very willing to try and make it a reality.
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Sweet! lol, yea, having a phone would help
I've also have a little incoming call concept drawn up here if you haven't seen it yet.
I think that if we made this interface a reality, it could be up near the top with PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell!
Thanks for replying and I hope you get a sick phone!
Oh and what do you write your programs in? I'd like to learn some programming too so I could maybe help develop this interface.
So write back here sometime if you'd like to start designing this!
Thanks,
Andrew
download link? i wanna try=]
beautiful!
mark.
Get and unpack Chome Visual Editor
copy original LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr file from your phone /windows/lockscreen/ to the chome folder
copy all the png graphics that start 'htc_' from your phone /windows to chome/windows on the pc.(not necessary, you can happily edit without this step)
The starred section below is what chome instructions say you should do, and is connected to importing registry, however i can't make it work properly yet, so this is kind of useless for now, and again, it isn't necessary for these simple positioning edits.
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*copy bronzeres.dll from phone to chome/windows
*copy cmhomeres.dll.0409.mui from phone and rename it cmhomeres.dll in chome.windows.
*You need ROMExtractor from Cotulla to get the .mui file
*http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1571715
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If you want to enable the animated arrows on the lockscreen left and right of the slide button, open your LS_LockScene_480x800.cpr in notepad, and look for the two sections that have been commented out. Find and remove the entries
<!--
and
-->
there are 4 of them.
EDIT using the animated arrows affects music playback when in standby. i guess that's why it comes commented out.
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Run CVE (chome visual editor) and open your lockscreen.cpr
The first thing you will see is that the buttons aren't there. I haven't figured out about importing registry and what not yet, only tinkering with the layout.
At the bottom of the preview, set the size to 480 x 800 and zoom till you can see it all. I opened the default wallpaper.png in windows/ folder and erased the background to leave it clear, get rid of that ugly coloured thing.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
on the left, open the tree at 'scene'.
Of the 5 entries, the three layers are Lockslider, Notifications list (for missed calls, txts, email) and TimeAppointment. Pretty self explanatory which is which.
If you select those three on the left, and look at the info on the right, you will see these three panes are given positioning info relative to the top of the screen.
So the notification List panel has a Top value of 115. (And it also lights up blue in the preview, not all panes do this)
Sub items of the main panels have their positioning relative to the panel, so notification/focus has a top value of 0 - the top of the notification panel.
IMPORTANT - if you move an item above the start of its panel, either by dragging, or by setting a top/left/right or whatever outside the panels edge, it won't show when you use the lockscreen.
This is most notable when dealing with the
TimeAppointment/DateTime and
TimeAppointment/Appointment
because they have zero height and width, so don't show up shaded blue on the preview - easy to mistakenly move a time/calender entry above it.
We're going to keep it simple, and not mess with the sub entries, just rearrange the three panels. Time/calendar at top, msg/call notification panel in the middle, and unlock slider at the bottom.
Select the LockSlider panel on the left, and on the right, set the Top value to, say 650
Select the TimeAppointment panel, and on the right set top to 0
Select the Notifications List, set top to 250 and height to 400
Don't forget to move the TapOrSlide and SlideToUnlock entries to just above the LockSlider, select them one by one and set top to 630 for both. You will also see on the right that different options have come up. Font, colour, shadow etcetera.
Now lets tinker with the time / appointment display a little.
Select and delete the ugly red calender symbol, and then with the entries for time, date, appointment subject, just play with them. Personally i move things by manually editing the top/left/right etcetera rather than the mouse.
TRAP - select TimeAppointment/Appointment, see the small blue dot? if you drag the appointment items above that they wont show, so be sure and set that's top value to 0.
In the image, subject will not show.
If you select DateTime, you will see this has a top value of 14, so if you move the clock up without changing it, you get the top cut off.
If you want to play with graphics, click and select the calender icon as a test, and you will see on the right there are two references to a file in the windows folder, you can edit that, but you need to edit both refs or it wont change.
Testing
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Copy to your phone, move to windows/lockscreen, and soft reset. A bit of a pain, the soft reset, but it won't update till you do.
and that's it, i haven't gotten into anything deeper, I'm going to branch into kitchens and see if i can get importing the registry to work, but here's how mine looks for now.
and version 2...
I don't know what the buttons down the left do, certainly nothing for me.
If anyone knows more about using this prog, please let me know.
I'll add as/if I find anything about how importing registry works.'
That is nice!! Thank you very much for this!
Very nice. Thanks.
Very nice , very useful!
you are very knowledgeable!
XXXXXYYYYY said:
you are very knowledgeable!
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hehe thanks but sadly no, I just have too much free time. )
This is cool!
heres my lockscreen
just made myself a cab installer for my lockscreen, so thought id attach it here.
Includes animated slide arrows.
Thanks to torsergey who's font and clock background image i borrowed.
EDIT - fixed time alignment
Excellent tutorial indeed....
My falicitations to you...
is it possible to show 2 appointments instead of only one?
radzi said:
is it possible to show 2 appointments instead of only one?
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no, it appears not. I have searched several times for info on this, and not found anything.
Task bar with % and time from screenshot "sams lock screen"
Off topic, but how could I get the same task bar configuration that you have in the screenshot of your lock screen. It had both the time and battery percentage and volume-together. I haven't been able to find that config. for my TMOUSHD2-stock ROM.
Thanks for all your posts, helped me out more than once.
update - I had wondered why the animated slide arrows had been commented out by default, but now I know why.
When you are listening to mp3 and the phone drops to standby, the playback stops and starts every 10 - 20 seconds (well it does on the 15/20 meg mp3 podcasts i listen to using media player).
Comment out the arrows and voila, no more jerky playback.
edited cab attached.
tcoots said:
Off topic, but how could I get the same task bar configuration that you have in the screenshot of your lock screen. It had both the time and battery percentage and volume-together. I haven't been able to find that config. for my TMOUSHD2-stock ROM.
Thanks for all your posts, helped me out more than once.
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sorry, its from the rom i use, dont know what its called, except 'colouredtaskbar.cab', though i think thats just the colours, not the actual items.
Everything is working well with this app but there is something I'm not seeing. how do you remove the actual text that displays "slide" or "tap or slide" above the lock icon?
PhantomApollyon said:
Everything is working well with this app but there is something I'm not seeing. how do you remove the actual text that displays "slide" or "tap or slide" above the lock icon?
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there are two thin wide panels just above the slide path, and i think it says tap or slide. just delete the two panels.
i'll grab a screenshot when i get home.
Anyway to remove the time and calander bar completely?
I tried but could not.
pugsid said:
Anyway to remove the time and calander bar completely?
I tried but could not.
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you should be able to just select the layer you are interested in in the list on the left and just delete it, no?
"can't test it, not near my pc, i'll double check tomorrow)
samsamuel said:
you should be able to just select the layer you are interested in in the list on the left and just delete it, no?
"can't test it, not near my pc, i'll double check tomorrow)
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Thanx. Appreciated
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Thanx. Appreciated
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yep, thought so. To completely get rid of time and app layer, in the list on the left select 'TimeAppointment' and hit delete. Save it, done.
Well crud. I can't copy the PNG's off my HD2 Windows error code 0x80030001 - Server Device Error
Double drats!