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In light of O2 Germany announcing that they will be releasing the wizard as the XDA Mini S, I have just spoken to O2 (UK)'s Marketing Dept & they Officially confirmed they will be follcwing suit, with a UK release date of late October or early November, (stock & supply pemitting, (haha, hehe), they also confirmed that it will be released in the UK under the brand name of the XDA Mini Pro instead of Mini S, GET EM WHILE THERE HOT BOYS (or not, as the case may be)
Regards & Best Wishes Ash'e.
October / November. Jeez that is ages away.
I'm now looking at the Tornado (i-mate SP5) but from looking on the Expansys site where you can pre-order this it is very very expensive.
O2 (UK) XDA Mini S Pricing
The Price of the XDA Wizard Pro looks like its going to be £199.99-GBP or less, sounds like a good deal to me, think I will leave the Tornado or XDA Phone well alone in light of that.
Regards Ash'e
The waiting is killing me...
Terran
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Don't get me started. I've had mine on order since August and I've been without a phone for a month :|
£474 actually: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518
Actually not with an O2 Contract
Actually I need a new O2 contract, so instead of buying the I-Mate sim free version online, think I will hang on that little bit longer & get the XDA Mini Pro version of the HTC Wizard & save myself £300.00 GBP, since I need a new phone contract as I will need to make phone calls next year.
Always beer an early (wait for a good deal) adoptor, not an early, early take what ever deal I can, merely to get my hands on the latest kit first adoptor, you no I have always found what a difference a month can make when buying newly released tech.
Besides which my contact at O2 said that there is a chance that with the right contract it could even be free, (best for business 250 or above).
Oh on a foot note 02 business is offering completely free of charge GPRS access within reasonable usage limits (not more than 38 megs download a month).
All in all if you get a free Wizard and free GPRS access and some exclusive minutes every month for 18 months, sounds like a good deal to me.
Regards Ash'e
Where did you see unlimted data?
I'm buying a jasjar now w/o2 plan, not busniess, though I can, would love the data bit...
Its only available when you buy direct from O2 & when it is an XDA branded product & is available from the 15 of October, ethical usage does apply though.
Regards Ash'e
Are you sure that ethical usage does not apply?
So it would mean unlimited 3g? Skype calls and all? Unbelievable. Also, how do you know it is only available from the 15th vs the 3rd as o2 say? ( I spoke with o2 business today)
Not quite that easy
Although in theory Skype should work on GPRS, they say on the Skype site that there are problems with it, & Personally I have never managed to get it to work, usually lock in to a free WiFi Zone to use Skype.
Besides Which a Skype call on GPRS, would be highly bandwidth/megabyte intensive, which would be in contradiction of the O2 ethical usage limits.
However as to the date that is what I was told over the phone, could have moved it up my contact is one of my best mates from Oxford Uni who managed to become a director of O2 (lucky sod) but he does sometimes get his dates wrong he works in IT not marketing,
Nevertheless there is (within certain limits) free GPRS, which with a free XDA Mini Pro, & some inclusive minutes & texts I think its still a good deal and a great money saver,
Regards Ashe
Free Grprs - Data
This is the first i hear about this usage policy, but I thought the free data, whether 3g or gprs (I am getting the jasjar on an 02 contract for minutes, not data) was indeed only for o2 business users, and not the o2 35mb data only tarif (35GBp). I am confused as where the data is free.
You can have a data only business tariff, but that has a 35mb limit, besides, I don't know how you find unlimited data on o2??? (I get GPRS bills)
Let Me Explain
My buddy at O2 lets me know what the best deals are that are coming up, however O2 has a strict policy of not releasing any information to even its sales staff untill at max a couple of days before they become active, because if they did a lot of people would keep waiting for the better deals and this could makes there sales eratic.
As a customer they want you to take the best deal that is available at the time not what is on the cards in a months time.
O2 are trying to get there GPRS usage up and have come up with a plan to get more of there XDA business users used to using GPRS and the internet on there devices, knowing full well that once they get use to it even when the offer ends they will more than likely keep using it after experiencíng its advantages first hand.
I am just lucky that a director at O2 likes to keep me sweet because of certain aspects of my work and my long freindship with him, because of this I get the luxury of a little bit of pre-release information, thats all, believe me I always joke with him about giving me a little bit more for old times sake, I never get it though, although I do with a little bit of patience always get a good deal, he has never let me down yet, it was him that told me to hang on for the release of the XDA Mini Pro, and the unreleased release date for it, although O2 UK will corfirm that they definitely are releasing the XDA Mini Pro, my buddy just let me know when and what good deals would be attached to it.
Regards Ash'e
Softly, Softly Catchee Monkey.
In Light of some of the Sim Free prices I Keep seeing around this site, I think that maybe it might be worth waiting for some of the contract deal with the big providers.
Regards Ash'e
Sorry guys if this has been mentioned already, but for anyone that's missed this, what do you think of the 'magicians' successor, o2s' branded xda Atom?
Same form factor as the magician, but with WM 5.0, 128 Rom, on-board wifi, 262k QVGA screen, integrated FM Radio and a .....yes...2 megapixel camera upgrade!
I'm getting seriously confused. If we can believe these specs, it really throws a spanner in the works for me. I mean, I've pretty much decided on the Universal (just not sure on MDA Pro or o2s' Exec) but this 'Atom' thing is a serious upgrade from the old Jam and remains 'pocket friendly'. Opinions anyone...advice would be appreciated.
Anyway check this link and judge for yourselves.
read more here: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39095540p,00.htm
i don't have any "sources" but i called up 02 and they confirmed that it will be released on the 3rd and the mini s should be out by the end of the year as they have it on there system as a near future release
To jaythemagicain:
if that post of yours was in response to mine,...thanks alot! I'll need to check out both the Exec and the Atom side by side, in person, to get a clearer perspective on things.
I was seriously contemplating the MDA Pro due out hopefully end of this month,...but now, can't wait till the 3rd! What's a few more days, right?
The Atom is Confusing Me To:
I have to admit that all the recent news as regards the XDA Atom, is confusing me to, had almost decided on the Wizard or XDA Mini Pro as they are now calling it unlike XDA Mini S there calling it in Germany, now however, the XDA Atom slowley creeps in and confuses us all again, a few confirmed specs would be really usefull.
Even Jag at O2 has heard nothing about it yet & I don't even know if it is anything to do with HTC.
Has anyone got any updated specs to put us all out of our misery
Regards Ash'e
It could be that it's the same sort of thing like voda and orange did when they basically made the jam but reworked it and made the vpa/spv versions.Perhaps one of the mini s's,but the keyboardless version,and reworked?
The Phantom Atom
Been searching for hours on the Internet & making lots of phone calls to everyone I know that may have any information on the Atom but to no avail, and no definative answer or information looks like we are just going to have to be patient, as I have said in other post this is almost like searching for the Holy Grail of Smartphones.
Every body loved the size of the magician, but wanted 128 Megs, WiFi & WM2005, but not to many people wanted the extra size, the slide out keyboard that caused the extra size or to have a slower CPU. Well it appears that the elusive XDA Atom fullfills all of these criteria, but is more elusive than the Holy Grail. However you can bet a pound to a dollar, that it will not reach Europe, and definatly not the UK, perhaps the operators are afraid to many people will buy them and start using Skype on WiFi, and effect there profits, it would certainly be easier to sell to the youth market because of its form factor.
Perhaps HTC should be listening to some of the comments on this forum as I reckon they could have a world beating Iconic device if they only thought about it and listened to what people are saying.
Oh well I will get down from my Soap Box now, any comments Chaps
Regards Ash'e
Todays i rang O2 online and they imformed me that EXEC is available as from Monday 26th of September at 8:30am this is not a hoax as i rang 2 different sales advisors and the XDA EXEC is now showing on there latest stock sheet.
I did question them about the 3rd of October date and they imformed me that they had decided to bring the date forward by a week.
O2 has imformed me that there are some seriously exellent 3g data and video calling bolt ons coming so hold tight......
If this indeed so, I'll be there in the morning! Can anyone else confirm this, as Tekguru has been informed that there may be a delay of 2-3 dats as of the 3rd October? Confusing?!?
Yay
Does anyone have details on the pricing structure that O2 will be using?
I don't want to be a killjoy, but I have used O2 for a month when I got an XDA IIs (before I knew about the Exec), and if you need their customer services, you will pay national rate for approx. half an hour before O2 actually get round to speaking with you.
This is the reason I have gone with Voda in the end. T-mobile were pretty good as well, and also Orange were good.
Just be careful in case you need support from them.
Joe
Not quite true
I've been on the phone to o2 last week and just thinking how much better they had gotten. They are much better than 'Club PenPal"
=> Hi, I'm Mo, how can you I help you today?
=> Sorry, please wait for the next rom upgrade.
=> When? When? I don;t know, but have a great day, thank for you using Club Pen pal."
The O2 UK website now has the XDA EXEC on there website!!!!
Bring it on in Australia!!!!
Rang Staff Accounts this morning (o2).
They confirmed that they have a release date of 26/09 but that they don't have it on their systems yet.
Also I've 4.4 months left on my current contract and would cost me about £144 to get out of it...
I would sell my 2i for about 200 quid, so I'm looking at around £170ish in total to get into a new contract with the Exec, though I'm not sure if I would get the Exec at the same price as upgrading from the 2i...
Hmmmmmm
Ant
Just been on the phone to 02 and they are saying that it is out today, but its not in stock and they have no prices for it till its in stock or a date/time it will be instock wtf they are going to call me back when its in stock so that will be sometime never i surpose lol
I just spoke with someone in sales department; today is only a provisional release date, the product will be in stock around 2nd week in october I really want one of theses things...it's driving me CRAZY :evil: having to wait!!!
Anton.Valleyman, u think u could buy two units...I don't live in the UK so I can't buy one direct...maybe we can make a deal :roll: any help?
Sorry, I have a stinking cold today, and I was coming down with it and being miserable yesterday.
I tried to call Voda to see if they can do anything appart from gratuitously skanking me for data (6 quid = 5 mb, 15 for 10, 25 for 42megs...), and when I ask why for 23 quid you get 70 megs on a 3G laptop card, I am put on hold for 45 mins and then I gave up. They have beaten my O2 misery record and now are the front runners in crap service.
My jasjar has a slightly loose screen and so I think it will be RMA'd back to Expansys and cancel the whole thing until T-mob release their one:
T-mobile seem the best deal to me with 200 mins and 55mb data for 35 per month. Any advances on the best voice data mix?
And youmeus, just save up yer $$$ and buy an imate or the other version outright - you don't want a slightly iffy Jasjar do you? :lol: only joking, I wouldn't sell it to anyone if it's not 100% perfect.
I'm going for my lemsip...
Joe
I know what you mean,
Upon waiting 8mins before actually speaking to someone i asked the simple question " is my multimedia enabled?"
15 mins on hold, before being told, they've just enabled it for me, and that they were having problems finding the sim update for my device, and me being ignored when saying i have the settings cab.
= 23 mins not as bad as you and i didnt get pestered for more of the hard earned, tell a lie, they did ask if i needed insurance, told em i got a 3rd party insurance.
i'm begining to see that o2 is terrible when it comes to customer care :roll: oh well, will wait and see what t-mobile have up their corporate sleeves! BUT YOU MUST ADMIT THE BLACK o2 LOOKS "HOT"
Still not out
Well i phoned O2 upgrades this evening and was told that they don't have any details on the XDA Exec.
When i pushed his further - stating i've heard on this forum it should be available today - i was told that the product has been pushed back to next week 3rd October.
I hate the way O2 can give out different information to different people.
Does anyone have any more information on the release date and prices?
Thanks
Choose.
Which one would you like to have ? I think Mitac Mio A701 is a better choice the only drawback Mitac Mio A701 has comparing to Xda Exec is that Exec has QWERTY keyboard.
Theres no comparison dude, Universal is more of a lappy-style accurate data thing, and that Mitac is more like a mobile phone on steroids.
But, ppl like the phone-style thing, hence the phone-windows OS's success I spose.
For me, the Universal is the donkey's ding-a-ling, and the Mitac is a mobile phone.
Do you like the smaller form factor then?
Joe
I rang o2 today.
I was told available 30th October.
I rang back not believing 1st person and was told 3rd October.
Does the mitac not have built in gps? That is a cool feature that should be included in all ppc's
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Does the mitac not have built in gps? That is a cool feature that should be included in all ppc's
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it does have a built in GPS not sure if it has built in Wi-Fi.
Looks like they will be about $1,599.95 here in Oz
http://www.mrgadget.com.au/catalog/o2-xda-exec-pocket-pc-p-1013.html
Don't worry all, it's all good. Let me start with the confusion by quoting a fellow Xda members concern about pricing, that was shared by myself and doubtless countless of other potentially interested purchasers of the new Athena, known as HTC X7500 (due out in April sometime), T-Mobile Ameo (available now) and the Dopod U1000 (available now in various parts of Asia).
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hi, yup there is something definitely wrong on flext 35+webnwalk = 119 and on flext 50+webnwalk= 319 ))
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Right then....just had a rather lengthy discussion with T-Mobile about this. The information for the Flex 35 offer is absolutely legit!!
That's right 100% correct!!
I was going to send mine back and have this deal, but in the fullness of the contract, the price works out to be exactly the same...down to the penny!
Basically I get 1/2 price discounts on my bills due to my ties with T-Mobile, hence I pay more for the device..but it all amounts to the same, except I get considerably more minutes etc per month.
Bottom line: If your going to be a new customer to T-Mobile and can comfortably afforf the £40 + per month, it is a fair deal. Total cost for the device and perks of the Flext tariff work out to £839.00 or thereabouts.
Compare that to £600.00 for the cheapest deal the Dopod U1000 (add shipping cost), then your really only paying less than £239.00 for the contract over 18 months which equates to 239/18 = £13.20!!
It will actually work out less than that as in the Dopod U1000 you still have to pay for shipping.
So in reality, your paying (e.g) £600 for the device and about £12.00 per month for the tariff.
Another way to look at it is tariff is £42.50 x 18 = £765.
Therefore £839.00 - £765.00 = £74.00 (for tariff benefits)
74/18 = £4.11 per month over 18 months for Flex 35
Apparently HTC will be selling the X7500 Advantage for a bit over £700.00 SIM free, but no other perks like free minutes etc...hence the inclusion of TomTom6.
They all work out to be roughly the same. You get what you pay for and none is actually cheaper than the other.
You simply have to chose which 'package' best suits your needs. Whichever version you buy, no one has got any cheaper than you as we don't know their payment history and Loyalty points awarded in the form of £'s discounted and for what reason they got high or low discounts.
I get low discounts on upgrades or new device/contract, because I always get 1/2 bills on contract tariff, but someone else may have several low cost tariffs, but pay the full bill and thus gets a higher Loyalty reward in discounts (this applies to service providers only).
You may seemingly get the device considerably cheaper at T-Mobile or at a small SP signing you up with T-Mobile, but with a less fulfilling tariff or at a higher rate.
It all sounds terribly confusing, but it's actually quite simple when you think about it and makes perfect sense.
None of these companies lose, but neither do the customers, as we have different 'packages' or 'bundles' with service providers or sellers of other variants of the Sim free Athena.
It all works out fairly in the end....trust me.
WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.
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WTF!!!! Your post is Very long & 99% garbage.... i dont want tomtom 6 in my htc x7500. also i dont want any whatsoever accessories with it. i only want the pocket pc possibly without the box so the price cuts down. bloody hell they prolly charge me £100 more for the tomtom sheit. Also the gps sux in athena. it heats up the device so much and drains the battery like mad sheit. i am going to disable gps and use my holux gps that i bought for my universal. also i already have tomtom 6 which is basically free on the net and you can download maps. who dont know how to do that can buy the sheit for £100 whatever (noobs). So the device really costs only £450-£500!!! hahahaha. Whoever get HTC X7500 for £700-£800 getting madly ripped off.
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man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.
So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!
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man, what he say is very true, he basically just break down the price for all these three device. Advantage will cost the most, yes it will be over £700 so you won't get it under £500!!! Beside, i have the DOPOD U1000 with me and i can tell you this, GPS works really good, no heating up at all and is the same speed as my TomTom official BT receiver.
So if you really want to wait for the Black one, be prepare to spend over £650 at least!
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....
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Sounds like a challenge. I am sure it is £500 or less.
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I'm beginning to realize from your posts that you really are a bit of a trouble maker and wind-up merchant. You don't seem to contribute anything of value on this forum until someone else has already done so. You only appear to be retarded, IMHO based on your comments...your actually quite immature and selfish in your way of thinking.
You don't even seem to consider that posts are meant to be of use to others. You haven't even got your X7500 yet do you? If you have, you should change your signature to reflect this and secondly...check yourself...because you obviously don't even understand the 'long' posts.
There is a huge difference between being pedantic, boring and detailed in ones instructions/description of things. You seem to comprehend only boring...showing your lack of maturity. Oh and for the record, my verbal abuse is a deliberate act of showing my frustration of some peoples stupid and thoughtless expressions of their flawed way of thinking or lack thereof.
U get me harry? Do u like it more like this?
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btw, you do know i have direct relation with the HTC, i think i know what i am talking. So, shut your mouth....
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I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000
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I like to fight. Well I will show the bill when i get my athena in april. I know someone else on this forum also posted pictures of their T-Mobile Ameo's shopping bill, it was 500Euros just as Arya had said with contract ^^... thanks Arya.
Also wu5262 i contacted the shop so many time and he told me so many times that device only costs $1000CDN without any addons. And i place my pre-order already. He already only has 5 pre-order. I am very lucky. I know wu5262 how you feel very sad you got ripped off on your dopod u1000
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Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!
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Talking what you don't know again? Talk when you can prove what you say...twat!
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Yea okay i will ask him to send me a invoice or an official quote. Then I can post it here. btw stop picking on me because i havent got my athena yet. because i know when i will get it you all will trade me your athena's for mine ^^. The WOW effect
@nowclear..in the head.
Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO.
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@nowclear..in the head.
Maybe you should stop fighting....you've taken too many blows when you've been beaten...it shows. Hahahahahahaha ROFL. LMAO.
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Man stop spamming already. i got my message through to you. you got blown off!
Enough already..
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btw stop picking on me ...
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Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.
As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.
How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.
If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.
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Now you sound like a wimp...Mr I like to fight.
As I said to the last person who picked an argument with me here. It's all pointless bickering...I too have a tendancy to be up for a fight..but that's no way to be.
How about we start all over again...and you stop criticising other peoples posts. If you don't agree and actually know something to the controary, by all means say it...nicely...and people will have more respect for you.
If you've continues this nonesense whilst I've been reading this, I'm going to ignore it. Time to get back to the real world and start problem solving and sharing our findings with others.
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Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.
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Yea I woud like to see this problem of the micro-drive when i get my athena. maybe i can refer back to this thread.
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OK truce it is then.
Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.
My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).
Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.
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OK truce it is then.
Oh yes..that is what wu has been referring to all along concerning the X7500's ROM...it doesn't handle writing to the Micro Drive well, with all sorts of issues, hence the delay in it's release. Hopefully they will have it sorted in time though.
My thread about WM5torage is not about WM5torage, as it is not knew software, but it is a brilliant workaround for direct file transfer to the built-in (non removable Micro Drive).
Hope you understand us now. You'll see anyway, when your X7500 comes.
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finally, the fight is over.....anyway
mackaby007, the problem on your Ameo is not the same as Advantage, your issue is new and never been reported by the tester.
Let me say it clear again, the Micro Drive problem that the Advantage has is to do with their Rom, the problem is, for example if you are watching a movie from your Micro drive on the road, and you accidentally shake by any means, the Micro Drive should stop working for a tiny mini second and resume working after that. That's what Ameo and Dopod is doing, but with Advantage, it's not doing that, it doesn't stop at the correct moment and it doesn't resume correctly, this wrong behavior actually make the Micro Drive drain more battery and result in more bad sector on the Micro Drive. I can insure you this problem will be solve before they release it.
Anyway, i don't really care how much you will get your Advantage for nuclear, you haven't got it yet. And no, i do not want to swap mine to yours because i don't want the black one, so i simply don't care about it.
Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong.
(1000USD with accessories included)
BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess
jameshuang said:
Hi,
Just wondering if there is any invoice/ bill can show to the community that the device is less than 750USD (1000Candian dollar)
I am very interest to see as I just get rip off by my telco in Hong Kong.
(1000USD with accessories included)
BTW, for people interest about the pricing, Hong Kong list price is 9880HKD with accessories pack. (GPS.. etc..)
Regards,
Jamess
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no one got it at 750 USD right now, apart from the T-mobile Ameo, but that is with contract. The person who says he got pre-order for 750USD, well, he hasn't got his device yet. I think the price you got are pretty reasonable. The best price i can get for DOPOD U1000 in taiwan is £600
I'm in China,I'm gonna buy a new shift,but it doesn't release in Chinese market yet.....Someone could recommend somewhere I can buy it?I can pay it by paypal.
And I have a question about the GSM,is it possible to make a call via.HTC Shift?
Regards,
Brose
the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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the shift seems to be unreleased yet ... but could come very soon.
I have found a new piece of information on the Expansys site :
http://www.expansys.fr/p.aspx?i=154231
It seems the it will comes at the end of the month ... and I think that France will be the first country to get the Shift. I'm waiting here in Belgium and all the stores do not have any information about the release date..
About the phone options .. if you look at the HTC site in the Support tab, you'll see that SMS are working but not the phone (by default). But here we are pretty sure that we will be able to make it able to make and receive calls... but we have to wait to get some devices to be sure about it.
I hope I have fully answered your questions.
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Hi,koala996....Really really thanks for your help,man!
Frankly I found there have some sellers in ebay.com that they are selling HTC Shift,but I'm confused that their device just is 20GB hard disk,I noted the HTC Shift is 40GB hard disk from the HTC Website....Holy****! What's its exact version??
Wow...U awesome,men! I do hope u will work the phone call feature out in future. Cheers!
Brose
Shift is available in some stores
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
HTC Shift
In fact HTC Shift is already in some countries. But they are kept with the distributors they are not allowed to pass it on to the shops yet. The reason is because they wanted other shops around the world to compete fairly, rather than speculate on it.
jamal_bao said:
look here : http://www.cel.ro/pda-gps/pda-htc-shift-l/
price is 1210 EUR
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I live in Bucharest.
Called them and........
What else could you expect.
Huib
P.s. From tomorrow staying a week in Holland. By God I hope I will find one there.
Sorry...
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
strangestonealive said:
Sorry to say but haven't seen it here yet
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In Holland? Yes but Expansys talks about 5 days. maybe ,maybe.
Huib
HTC SHIFT
800MHz, 1GB, 40GB, Vista Business, EU Andere UMPC › Devices Ca. 4 Dagen €1.259,95
Just like all of us they have been very optimistic in their assumptions for a delivery date.
And time after time they delyed it...
But as you mentioned, we will see...
on expansys, the release has been push back once again, man.....i guess i will need to contact my HTC contact to find out when they are really going to release the Shift.
It's not that they are spoiled by unrealistic delivery date provided by expansys. They are actually lying every month by saying this thing is available now... from official PR! and since last october. I understand a company meeting a last minute problem before going on the production channel, but this announcment where done knowing the production was not going, as there is an estimated 2 weeks between the first unit produced and the actual delivery.
That or we have some kind of war going behind the scene between HTC and some other company.
great work ! they lying again! it's ok for me ...i buy an asus r2hv , i can't wait .....time is money , no? for htc maybe not. stupid company!
I can hardly believe that I too am falling into the trap of posting about HTC Shift availability. But here I go.
Clove technology www.clove.co.uk a company who have been trading since Psion days told me that my pre-order of the HTC Shift can now be executed and that first stock is due Tuesday march 04th 2008.
Well since I've waited about 1 year now since the CES display I figure I can wait a few more weeks and see what the reports from this forum will tell. Personally I feel that unless it shows all of good performance, full WM6, GPS, and usable data via SIM we might all be better off waiting for the HP2133 (see http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ ) a product that is surely not going to be a year late.
Hey i found this on the internet, i don't know if it is true or not but the link states that the Shift is now for sale in the UK
http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1230
Just got confirmation that my Shift was shipped (from Devicewire)
It's finally in stock
Dear All, i am glad to inform you all that the HTC Shift is finally in stock for order, looks like the wait is finally over. I am getting mine tomorrow, hope you all get yours soon !
Wellcome
Hesitating, Hesitating
danielherrero said:
Wellcome
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I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
HTC Shift In Stock
B"H
The Shift is now available in the USA, here:
www.onthegosolutions.com
Also, it can be shipped internationally, too.
I wasn't quite sure what you meant that it would take x months for the Fujitsu, the 1620 is available, and has been for a while I think. The U1010 is the one that hasn't launched yet.
If a lot of your use would be on the road, you have to think about battery power for sure. I think the HTC Shift has quite a few drawbacks, but I'm personally buying it because I have fallen for it, and I gotta have it :-D I hope there would be an extended battery eventually, but HTC's choice of battery pack and implementation is going to make it hard (I'm sure some third party manufacturers won't miss the chance and would come up with a new cover etc.) I have a 32GB USB and a 16GB SDHC, so hopefully with these two I could remedy some of the issues with low memory capacity on the Shift (I'd rather move the backup to a USB stick if that's possible, but should be).
herpi said:
I am hesitating so much between the Shift and this, above mentioned Fujitsu p1620.
The short battery life. No entry in WM without a SIM card (not even WIFI?). No WM that can use the harddisk or SD slot.
The whole WM seems so useless now. I wanted it for long battery life.
Hardly any harddisk space left to bring my favorite films for looking at in the plane.
The P1620 on the other side may take another x months to wait for and is much, much more expensive. And SD cards to carry my films become bigger and cheaper.
My Bucharest dealer just sent me an interesting offer (4397 RON = aout 1170 Euro all in)
I could pick it up tomorrow!.
PLs help me with my decision.
I am a frequent flyer in the cattle class, so I NEED a small tool/toy. I NEED long battery last, but could buy two of course.
Huib
P.s. I think that I buy the Shift now and sell it on this forum cheaper if I go for the Fujitsu later. But still.......
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and to cut it short below is the email between me and him
(now am sure it might be a scam but i have bought from that webpage before and things were okay, not this guy specifically but the webpage
From: chenallan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:50 PM
To: Rabia Ali Massoud
Subject: RE: THE UNIT PRICE OF HTC SHIFT
Dear Rabia,
Of course,this shift make phone calls.
best regards
allan
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: THE UNIT PRICE OF HTC SHIFT
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:24:56 +0400
But does this shift make phone calls or is it only gsm modem?
From: chenallan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: THE UNIT PRICE OF HTC SHIFT
Dear Rabia,
Thank you for your inquiry to our company……
Our company wholesale original HTC shift....the unit price is USD415.
The price includs the shipping cost....the MOQ is 3pcs....depend on the quantity, we will give you a discount......all of our products are new and authentic, with 1 year international warranty.
Welcome to link our site http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/pengfeimobile and look our products...
pls feel free to contact us by email or MSN if you have any question......we will do our best for you....
best rgds!
ALLEN
I am not able to find it there.
this is the link
http://www.made-in-china.com/showro...MVmgfTcuPWt/China-HTC-Shift-Mobile-Phone.html
I'd reply and tell them that the standard Shift does not make phone calls, and ask them what has been changed on this one to allow it.
Edit - I've just seen they are offering them for US$ 415, that alone should tell you not to go near it.
i already did, and am waiting for the reply, see i have seen iphones made in china that looks exactly like the original but with cheaper branding quality, otherwise functionalty is similar with motion sensore and everything, by replacing the battery cover which has the bad quality branding no one would know ots chines except when u go to the games and find a game called sushi and its all in chines , my point is those people are more than capable
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i already did, and am waiting for the reply, see i have seen iphones made in china that looks exactly like the original but with cheaper branding quality, otherwise functionalty is similar with motion sensore and everything, by replacing the battery cover which has the bad quality branding no one would know ots chines except when u go to the games and find a game called sushi and its all in chines , my point is those people are more than capable
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I know this Iphone clone you are talking about. Its called HIPhone. I totally disagree here, its a piece of junk.
As pantaloonie said, dont go near Chinese stuff...
Btw...the hiphone is very limited, doesnt feature 3G and the motion sensor doesnt work. Internet is not supported either...you can buy them here in Japan for 200 bucks...if this Shift is a clone (which i hope its not), then I hope they call it S*H*I*T
anyone brave enough to order one from that site? =D
forget that, the guy disappeared after i asked about more details but what about a solution of gsm modem than can dial, wouldn't that solve the problem temporarly, i mean u will then have to use vista side all the time but i have seen gprs modem that can dial
Dont buy chinese phones for actual, buy it for novelty. I bought a "hiphone" and it sux. its 20% of what the iphone is. The icons does not respond as well as the iphone, no 3g support, not much functionality. All it is, is a working toy phone. Its cheap.. I bought the mini hiphone for $75, BUT STILL NOT WORTH THE MONEY. Plus the 1 year warranty does not work, they will have you pay for shipping round trip and if their post office lose your plackage, they wont pay for it. I sent one back and I had to complain to the Chinese government for this fraudulant trade practice.
hehe, funny stuff. There're no fake shifts in China. The demand for the real ones isn't great enough to warrant a fake one. I will however state that Chinese business is very much "tell you what you want to hear" and then let you complain about it after the sale is made. So, if you ask if something is exactly the same, they'll tell you it is, because to them it's what they call "cha bu duo" which means "pretty much". But of course, what's pretty much to the seller is far from for the buyer.
I hope that gives any future buyers a realistic picture of how things work in China. I live in China, and I know that if something sounds too good to be true, it's because it IS too good to be true. You get what you pay for in China, just like you do in another country.
Now memory cards on the other hand... well, get those in China, they're cheap, and they REALLY are what they seem to be.
Caid.
444
hi...just an input....if u wanna buy from www.made-in-china.com ,
make sure you are buying from a platinum/gold seller. i have bought stuff from there in bulk.. i must say that if they say its original it is... for the first shipment. second /third shipments will have some problem sets. alot of major companies either make sets there or does trading there as as certain parts of china are sort of like trade hubs.
this is my honest comment on them.
but i feel that they have made a big step forward in the sense that they are improving in the way they do business..(if you compare 5-7yrs back and now).
be it the merchandise quality and trustworthiness... NOT ALL but some
btw i am not from china nor i work for www.made-in-china.com
i am not even chinese
cheers!
it really was.
i have got a shift on July. it can make phone call by speaker.
but regretfully, it can not make a video call. i tried to install 3G videoTelephony, but it is not used.
And SD reader can not used in winmo yet.
The GPS can not used in win7.
i can not read the disk in winmo.
The ROM is windows mobil 6.1 professional 5.2.20764 (20764.1.4.3)
I think that you should verify the company and buy your product. Because few days ago I was buy some electronic product from Chinabuye.com supplier and has great facility and free shipping service. I have checked my all product than It was ok for me.
miceking said:
it really was.
i have got a shift on July. it can make phone call by speaker.
but regretfully, it can not make a video call. i tried to install 3G videoTelephony, but it is not used.
And SD reader can not used in winmo yet.
The GPS can not used in win7.
i can not read the disk in winmo.
The ROM is windows mobil 6.1 professional 5.2.20764 (20764.1.4.3)
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GPS internal can be used in Windows 7, or XP. Check out thaihugo's ROM's in
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To Caid444 "There're no fake shifts in China." (sorry I can't manage to include quotation here).
Just now I'm playing in "chineese roulette": I have payed 103$ for a Chinese HTC Shift and I'm waiting for a delivery. I guess that for such a price there should be a cheap mobile navigator in a Shift box (photo shows the original Shift!), but I'm still mysified.
I have an original HTC Shift and I hope that there should be at least some compatible spares like screen, keyboard and battary.
If anyone is interested I'll compare the fake with the original sample and publish here the results.
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To Caid444 "There're no fake shifts in China." (sorry I can't manage to include quotation here).
Just now I'm playing in "chineese roulette": I have payed 103$ for a Chinese HTC Shift and I'm waiting for a delivery. I guess that for such a price there should be a cheap mobile navigator in a Shift box (photo shows the original Shift!), but I'm still mysified.
I have an original HTC Shift and I hope that there should be at least some compatible spares like screen, keyboard and battary.
If anyone is interested I'll compare the fake with the original sample and publish here the results.
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I bought a new HTC Shift from a GSM Shop in the Netherlands for 100 euro's in 2009. They are not that expensive anymore as they were and all stock are leftovers that the shopowners want to dump.
Now I expect it to be even cheaper because of all the tablets that have arrived that are more powerfull then the Shift, have a more modern OS and enough memory to actually run software on it.
I order my products with Chinabuye, much better than with what I experienced with made in china. they have on time delivery and easy payment via Paypal.
no no @ say no to made in China
Made in china isnt reliable site when you are going to buy something big in price and size @ i mean scams and worse shipping service !
instead of that i use Chinabuye for better products' quality !
miceking said:
it really was.
i have got a shift on July. it can make phone call by speaker.
but regretfully, it can not make a video call. i tried to install 3G videoTelephony, but it is not used.
And SD reader can not used in winmo yet.
The GPS can not used in win7.
i can not read the disk in winmo.
The ROM is windows mobil 6.1 professional 5.2.20764 (20764.1.4.3)
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so can you explane me how its possible to made a phone call with the shift?
i really need it if possible,thanks
well, you get all kinds of suppliers at made-in-chine. i guess it beats alibaba.com anyway, 'cause when you google the page name you get nothing but scam warnings and stories about people who 'bought' the new iPad for 19.95$ manufactured in China... and got a set of toothpicks instead.
but I would recommend using business searchers like momoway.com who offer the same services but seam to be more reliable.