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A way to make Extended_ROM writable any time !

Hi!
HTC when designed Magician layout make a disputable decission to make 20Mb of flash, which can be potentially easy used to store data as Flashdisk, hidden and read-only. I think it was made only for dumb users and marketing purposes.
They leave only 7,60 meg to read/write flash disk (\Storage folder), but it was vey easy for HTC to make no ExtRom at all, but made flash-disk size as big, as 28 megabytes.

not so easy as in firsh sight
further investigations shown that \Storage file system is not FAT but some kind of proprietary fs (i think optimized for flash mem r/w)
and no format function available
continue investigations...

i wish u could find a way.............

YES! I DO IT!
After changin some bytes in OS ROM i have no ExtROM at all,
but I have \Storage writable card which size was 7,6Mb in original Magician, but now it's size is as big as 26,72Mb !
Fully readable/writable.
No more needs for making own ExtROMs

Great Job!!! I was searching for a while if this was possible. Is it safe? Could you provide a step by step on how to do this. Thanks in advance.

anansky said:
YES! I DO IT!
After changin some bytes in OS ROM i have no ExtROM at all,
but I have \Storage writable card which size was 7,6Mb in original Magician, but now it's size is as big as 26,72Mb !
Fully readable/writable.
No more needs for making own ExtROMs
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yes plz share as to which bytes to change

walshie_au said:
anansky said:
YES! I DO IT!
After changin some bytes in OS ROM i have no ExtROM at all,
but I have \Storage writable card which size was 7,6Mb in original Magician, but now it's size is as big as 26,72Mb !
Fully readable/writable.
No more needs for making own ExtROMs
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yes plz share as to which bytes to change
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Yeh ... Anansky did a good job. Hope you can share your finding.
Thanks

I need to perform additional testings to make sure that my method is safe
and write useful program.
but for now all looks like is correct.
will post in few days.
here is screenshots after patching Magician ROM

anansky said:
YES! I DO IT!
After changin some bytes in OS ROM i have no ExtROM at all,
but I have \Storage writable card which size was 7,6Mb in original Magician, but now it's size is as big as 26,72Mb !
Fully readable/writable.
No more needs for making own ExtROMs
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great...
would you please tell us, which bytes did you change?
thanx
buzz

we are in rush and wait )))))) please.

So great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!! this is sweet if it works!! no more messing with KB files to get better space!
My hopes r raced!!

anasky, great work!!!!!

Oh plz let us know the news!! Great job

anansky said:
I need to perform additional testings to make sure that my method is safe
and write useful program.
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You are going to even write a program for us to make it easy. Great job and thanks. If there are former IPAQ owners this new storage space is similar to the IPAQ file store space.
Just wondering, with this little hack, would we just remove the extended rom file when doing future upgrades? Since the extended rom is visible anyways, i am sure someone can post the extended rom files on the ftp when upgrades are available.

hi, great job....
please tell us how you did it !
greetings
christian
ps.
sorry, my english is very bad

Great work!
Russian hackers rule!
Просто нет слов! Можно получить инструкцию по мылу? Очень хоцца попробовать

Very Nice
Can't wait to know the steps
Keep on the hard work :wink:

anansky
Просто гордость берет, все таки русские рулят
Огромное спасибо!
Great thanks!!!

excellent work we ll wait to see it in action to ours ppc's!!!
thank you

Modified ROM image with 27Mb r/w flash disk for Magician. Qu

Hi, all !
Here
you can download os rom image files from
ftp.xda-develoeprs.com ftp at /Magician/anansky folder
WWE OS ROM image in booloader sd-card backup format, patched to reach the following result:
1. ExtROM completely removed out from flash memory
2. Space of ExtROM joined to \Storage part of Magician memory, makes it extended as up, as 26,72Mb, fully readable and writable
How to use it:
Fully backup you Magician (will be hard reseted), copy all files from ExtROM and \Storage card to SD-card 'cause they will be formatted !
Use downloaded image as SD ROM Image, using well-described procedure from xda-developers.com ftp site at \magician\backup1
Description at file Procedure.doc, but i don't know whos author (great thx to him)
write attached image image to SD card, flash you Magician and enjoy !
This patch is really safe - don't worry.
Note: if you will up/downgrade you OS ROM to non-patched version, before flashing you MUST back-up all files from \Storage folder \cause it's size returns to original 7,6Mb.
For more ease use of this new feature i give results of my explorations to my brother, which now studing computer sciense in NZ
- he promise to write useful program to enable this feature much more easy way and flexibly divide space between ExtROM and\Storage parts.
But, before he write such program, i will patch new Magician OS ROMs as soon, as they will be appears at xda-developers.com.
Post your comments please.
Alex Anansky
Kamchatka, Russia

Hi, Anasky,
Great thanks for your great work. However, I am not using WWE ROM, instead, using CHS ROM. Can you please let me know how to crack the ROM for removing ExtRom from the image file? Thanks again.
[email protected]

BRAVO
in the other post you've explained that \ext_rom and \storage is similar memory type. but does this mean they are incompatible with "main memory"? what i mean to ask is, if you've gone so far, would it be possible to join \ext_rom, \storage and main memory into one? and use only a SD card for storage?
57.3 MB + 26.7 MB = 84 MB of Total Main Memory
not. anyway i'm happy to have gotten rid of the extended rom. thanks again.
edit: link does work, sorry. i'm downloading now.

Is it only me or is the link not working :?:
*downloading right now*

deoli said:
BRAVO
in the other post you've explained that \ext_rom and \storage is similar memory type. but does this mean they are incompatible with "main memory"? what i mean to ask is, if you've gone so far, would it be possible to join \ext_rom, \storage and main memory into one? and use only a SD card for storage?
57.3 MB + 26.7 MB = 84 MB of Total Main Memory
not. anyway i'm happy to have gotten rid of the extended rom. thanks again.
edit: link does work, sorry. i'm downloading now.
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deoli, ExtROM and \Storage is a similar type, it is flash memory.
it's cannot be joined with main (RAM) memory.
only one way - it's develop some kind of swap/paging memory driver, but it's significantly degrade device performance - so is not good idea

the link IS workin Rickstur!! downloading now.
thnx anansky

iQQ said:
Hi, Anasky,
Great thanks for your great work. However, I am not using WWE ROM, instead, using CHS ROM. Can you please let me know how to crack the ROM for removing ExtRom from the image file? Thanks again.
[email protected]
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give me link where you OS ROM can be downloaded and i will patch for you.

anansky said:
give me link where you OS ROM can be downloaded and i will patch for you.
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Why not sharing your knowlegde with the community?
Great work done. so it would help anyone, if we know how you did it.....
Regards
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
anansky said:
give me link where you OS ROM can be downloaded and i will patch for you.
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Why not sharing your knowlegde with the community?
Great work done. so it would help anyone, if we know how you did it.....
Regards
Stefan
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its not so easy to give exactly algoritm how to find this bytes in unknown os rom, and playing with rom may be dangerous for unexpirienced user, so i still cant post info, may be later

I can't download the file right now

Could someone be so kind and make a mirror? Thx in advance.

[email protected] said:
I can't download the file right now
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limit - only 50 simulateous connections. try again a bit later.

[email protected] said:
I can't download the file right now
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limit - only 50 simulateous connections. try again a bit later.

Anansky: you rule!!!
All:
I have uploaded to ftp://forum.xda-developers.com/Magi...age_anansky/magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage.zip
Enjoy
will try to upgrade in a few minutes let's see how it works

dear anansky
the link to my rom(greek) is this:
ftp://forum.xda-developers.com/Magician/qtek s100 - 1.11.00 - GREEK -1.1.4
could you plz patch it ?
excellent work thank you very much for your time and kknowledge
with bests regards
George

dear anansky
the link to my rom(greek) is this
in the ftp site forum.xda-developers.com/Magician/qtek s100 - 1.11.00 - GREEK -1.1.4
could you plz patch it ?
excellent work thank you very much for your time and knowledge
with bests regards
George

anybody succeeded with that rom?
download are very slow, and limited for users number.
2 anansky: can you put file to another place? For example - HERE as attach on forum.
(If you want PM me - I can help to put on mine www.ladoshki.com) but anyway - we can increase speed / downloadind users number... ?

Uploading it right now to forum.xda-developers.com under \Magician\magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage.zip. Feel free to move it if not right placed

anansky said:
iQQ said:
Hi, Anasky,
Great thanks for your great work. However, I am not using WWE ROM, instead, using CHS ROM. Can you please let me know how to crack the ROM for removing ExtRom from the image file? Thanks again.
[email protected]
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give me link where you OS ROM can be downloaded and i will patch for you.
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Give you a SD card backup ROM? or Shiped upgrade ROM? I can only make a SD card backup, and do not have the shiped upgrade ROM.
Thanks.

alelas said:
Anansky: you rule!!!
All:
I have uploaded to ftp://forum.xda-developers.com/Magi...age_anansky/magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage.zip
Enjoy
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I've got it... Many thanks

[Universal] Extended ROM unlocker !!!!!!!

YES YES YES
!!i just made extended ROM unlocker for Universal!!
THIS TOOL IS DEDICATED TO MWANG
get it here
Please test it and let me know...
It is very early release, so it does only unlock.
Later, i'll add also locking.
For unhiding Extended ROM i just need to create cab file.
Otherwise it's ready as well... Meanwhile you can display your extended ROM using TotalCommander for CE.
How to unlock:
Just copy it to your device and run it..
)))))))))))
buzz

Buzz! you da man!
Errrm, what does this actually mean in my ignorance? Unlocking the Rom?
Regards, Simon

gooroo said:
Buzz! you da man!
Errrm, what does this actually mean in my ignorance? Unlocking the Rom?
Regards, Simon
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on hardreset, all customisations are run from Extended_ROM.
By default it is locked for writing with a password.
That means, you cannot add or remove programs, which are autoinstalled on coldinit.
Now you can.
))
buzz

Thank you very much....
Buzz,
Thanks for working on this. I realize that a lot of people are looking forward to "freeing" up memory by deleting the extended ROM (i.e. Big Storage). I'm one of them. Here's my question: Does this allow you to delete the files in EXT ROM? If so, are they PERMANENTLY deleted? Or can I "restore" them by reflashing my ROM from the ROM Image provided from imate's website? Sorry for the newbie questions.

Re: Thank you very much....
weatheryoko said:
Buzz,
Thanks for working on this. I realize that a lot of people are looking forward to "freeing" up memory by deleting the extended ROM (i.e. Big Storage). I'm one of them. Here's my question: Does this allow you to delete the files in EXT ROM? If so, are they PERMANENTLY deleted? Or can I "restore" them by reflashing my ROM from the ROM Image provided from imate's website? Sorry for the newbie questions.
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Unlocking Extended ROM allows you to delete or add files into Extended ROM.
Files are permanently deleted or added.
Once you flash the device with new ROM, which contains ms.nbf (Extended ROM image), it's content is then flashed to the Extended ROM. That means there will be new content in there...
This is my first contrib to Universal, Exec, JJ community...
Next step can be the same as i did on Himalaya.
To get more storage space, e.g. remove the Extended ROM partition and make the Storage partition 10MB bigger.
well, if anyone wants that... ))
buzz

would it be safe to assume it works on the Wizard?

Excellent work Buzz! Thanks for answering my questions.

vbguru613 said:
would it be safe to assume it works on the Wizard?
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NO.
This will work only on Universal, O2 Exec, Dopod 900, Jasjar Qtek9000 etc...
If you want i can try to make one for Wizard...
buzz

I can see buzz being bought a wizard now too
Is 10Mb what we can expect as an increase in storage?
Too infinity and well beyond!
Hehehehehe

Hi Buzz
Please go for please make one for Wizard as well
Regards
Gugi

deff for wizard

gugi_sat said:
Hi Buzz
Please go for please make one for Wizard as well
Regards
Gugi
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Hi Gugi,
please give me an export of:
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn]
THANX
buzz

Nice
Congratulation with new tool. Now we can delete or copy files of extended ROM, we need to see and use ER as storage therefore unhide application also must be needed
Thanks
:wink:

Unlock JJ.. works like charm..
Thanks for the good work.. really really useful and save lot's of efforts to customize the machine after a complete installtion.
Keep up the good work.

where do i send it to?

Here Buzz

Excuse my lack of expertise, in PC terms is this similar to having a copy of the uninstalled o/s on your harddrive and is only required when you wanted to reinstall your o/s?
If so, would it be possible to empty the rom and only place one cab file which loaded all the required cab from SD? i.e. copy the rom to an SD and then be able to hard reset using the SD to reload the o/s?
How much space does the rom take up?
Regards
Simon

Cool Buzz! he is the man!! But....do i understand if u ru
Yoo Buzzie Buzz
Listen i have an question and a problem..the tool is cool no doubt about that. Now we can exclude some unecessary programs etc.
But my main question is does this remove the Simlock aswell? ?!? ?
Because there are a lot of people who cant use their MDA PRO properly because it has an simlock of T-Mobile......if this does not remove the simlock could you make an program that does...? I think it is now quitte easy cause the ext. rom is an open way.....
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUZZ and all others.....Help and make an Sim Unlock tool just like you all dit before for the Himalaya etc. etc.

Re: Thank you very much....
...
well said:
yes yes i want to remove the skype antivirus and themes from imate is this possible ?
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Buzz once again you're a legend! Keep up the great work!

Does anyone know how to do Big Storage on Prophet?

Hi:
I was seaching on forum, but all I find is Magician's Big Storage.
Does anyone success do Big storage on Prophet?
Please please teach me...
Thank you.

push...................

Bump...
Anyone have a resource for this?

do you mean the 47.46 mb storage?

Yes. I've not found any documentation for this minus for trinity or wizard and some on magician.
I'd like to wack the 9mb storage for extended_rom2 and merge it with regular persistent storage.

I'm working on it in 2.20 qtek ROM and no success tell now, I'll try in WM6 maybe it will work
I think it is usefull too, wish me luck

Any luck Chopin?

stable wm6

which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?

Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.

they all are... tried and tested by many....
some have bugs(unsupported features)
and you can find all of them in this forum.
it only depends on what you install on them.

i hv tried all and think that the clean version of wm6.1(6.1.02 DVH) without Ramdisk is best cause it has both the netcf and office(excel+word) and also the mystrious theme for media player. All other version either hv the netcf or the office and the version without netcf requires the netcf to run their primary applictions (GettingStarted, calc, usb hdd, etc.) so u hv to loose ur 5mb to run them.
In clean version gettingStarted is removed to put office as it is more important.
So give it a chance u will find it worth.

jrguy8 said:
which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
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it seems you have a lot of pocketpc's. is the blue angel one of them? you cannot use a ROM not intended for your device.

i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.

hi
i have siemens sx66 & i tried several roms from here but all roms says that this rom is not for this device.
please help
thanks

jrguy8 said:
i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.
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you can opt NOT to install extrom. just don't copy the folder (and its contents) to your storage card, so it won't install when you upgrade ROM's.
i'm not sure if you can copy all programs to the storage card, so you can put them back when you upgrade.
a) if you have exe files, then it is ok.
b) but if these programs came from cab files, then you can use the EXTROM to install these straightaway. or you can install them one by one
c) otherwise, you have to install them from your computer.
with respect to contacts and messages, this post is your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1189061&postcount=1

i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?

jrguy8 said:
which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
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Simple: The ones without any additional cruft, bling, or dancing monkeys added.
Remember - most if not all of these ROMs are based on the same fundamental base (barring the fakes, or hacks). It's generally only what the ROM chefs personally want to have added which makes the difference. And even those things can be 'fixed' or overwritten with installers/CABs.
I've had my philosophical 'rant' already ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973631&postcount=2

jrguy8 said:
i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?
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i think u should check the wiki first.
Storage(60)-Storage available (44)=Extendedrom(16)
so u dont hv 96mb its 60 mb only. and before upgrading do not forget to merge extended rom to available storage to get more space.

thanks for correcting me.
i also read about page pool, i think the ext rom is used for that, does it really improved performance?
how can i backup and reinstall my original rom?

the_scotsman said:
Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.
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I've tried many WM6 and WM6.1 but can't find one of the best. And
there are more to come. So help me find one of the most stable and best WM6 or WM6.1.
Thanks B4H.