newbie - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

I just got my xda 2i today and just want to know does software have to be specifically made to run on windows mobile or does anything work?

Any PocketPC or Windows Mobile for PocketPC (not SmartPhone) software should work, older software for SH3 or MIPS will not work, and some older ARM stuff will not work.
Take a look at some of these.
www.handango.com
www.pocketgear.com
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php
http://www.eitcenter.com/pocketpc/download.htm

for wm2003se, when you install an "older" app you may receive a message which says something like "the app may not display properly because it was made by an older version of windows"...or something like that. i think this refers to the app as not yet being adaptable for landscape mode. in any case it'll still work as long as you're in portrait. just click "ok". example; i once installed this game and the message appeared. i clicked ok and the game still worked. the only problem was that when i shifted to landscape mode the bottom part of the game couldn't be seen. but otherwise any other app should work.
cheers

skitty said:
I just got my xda 2i today and just want to know does software have to be specifically made to run on windows mobile or does anything work?
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Do not run any software function the same job, otherwise it will hang, softreset will lose data.

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opera 8 for universal

look everyone .. nice trick ... looking forward to try it by myself ..
http://kny.iki.fi/operawm5/
Works OK.
As it's for smartphone though there are no scroll bars. Need to navigate with the d-pad or arrow keys.
This looks good, but I can't get it to run on my JasJar. I didn't apply the hires hack, I wonder if that does something else to it as well. It installs fine, but when I try to run, it doesn't load.
You need to do a soft reset after installing or it won't work.
Is this some kind of beta or a trial version?
I just created a cab file from the original files, but still I'm not able to run it, I installed it on wm2003se device, plz any one take a look at it and force it to run if it's possible.
Universal Doc, I think it's a trial version. That's what I downloaded from the Opera site anyway.
I can't get it to to run on my device though. It seems to install -- I soft reset as instructed above, but when I click it to run, it doesn't run, the cursor circle pops up and runs for a brief moment, but then nothing else happens.
I tried the CAB file posted above, but it won't install on my device. Gets about 80% done, then a message pops up that says unable to install on the device.
No luck for me yet - hopefully Opera will release their WM5 version soon. I really like miss TrueVGA browsing.
it's a smartphone application not a pocketpc application
2003SE cant run smartphone applications only 2005 can do that
It does not work for me yet, such a shame (the devices are brothers of each other but don't have the same blood) but mine is a wm2005 machine now.
I get:
- Opera load failure
- Unable to load opera.dll
Can anybody post the opera.dll, maybe someone or meself can compare de dll's and can get this to work on his BlueAngel brother.
Rudegar said:
it's a smartphone application not a pocketpc application
2003SE cant run smartphone applications only 2005 can do that
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Right, and the JasJar I'm trying on is a WM5 machine. Isn't that the forum we are in?
I downloaded Opera 8 for Smartphones from Opera website, installed on my Jasjar, soft reset and I am able to run it. I installed the application to my main memory and not to the storage card.
However it is not a perfect run on the Jasjar, for example when I open the Hotmail website it takes me to the mobile hotmail website and not the full hotmail website. Furthermore it just takes me to the log-in page and cannot go further because when I enter the username in the prescribed box every press of the keys enters 2 characters simultaneously. For example when I enter "s" it would enter "ss" and so on.
I believe we will have to wait till Opera releases the version for Windows Mobile 5 for Pocket PC.
Regards
Right, and the JasJar I'm trying on is a WM5 machine. Isn't that the forum we are in?
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thats great
if you look at the post over yours
I just created a cab file from the original files, but still I'm not able to run it, I installed it on wm2003se device, plz any one take a look at it and force it to run if it's possible.
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my answer being addressed to that post makes it give a bit more sense
i can opera on Universal like following....for your refference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=157596#157596

Jasjar/Universal: Too many bugs ??

I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
Carnivor said:
no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]

Log Me In, Skyfire/Opera w/ Flash, Garmin XT, & Slingbox

For all of you that have an X1, Congratulations.
The purpose of this thread is simple, I want to know if any of you have the above programs and if they work on the Xperia X1.
Please don't ask me for the program, I don't have them.
However, I heard all of these apps are very good and would like to know if they work at the 800x480 resolution.
Thanks
Garmin Xt works great on the xperia =)
skyfire
skyfire does not work,slingplayer on the other hand runs like a dream..
Micke401 said:
skyfire does not work,slingplayer on the other hand runs like a dream..
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nice good to know i can see this coming in handy
LogMeIn works perfectly .
fpbiii said:
For all of you that have an X1, Congratulations.
The purpose of this thread is simple, I want to know if any of you have the above programs and if they work on the Xperia X1.
Please don't ask me for the program, I don't have them.
However, I heard all of these apps are very good and would like to know if they work at the 800x480 resolution.
Thanks
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Flash Lite 3.1 works with Opera, got Flash from one of the pages on xda-developers.
I seem to be unable to install Slingplayer Mobile on my Xperia, is there any fix needed in order to be successful? The version I'm trying with is the
SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6 (US English) available at Sling.
PocketPC version
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I seem to be unable to install Slingplayer Mobile on my Xperia, is there any fix needed in order to be successful? The version I'm trying with is the
SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6 (US English) available at Sling.
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Try the Pocket PC version istead.
Flash lite working with opera? Tried all versions to be found here on xda to no success..
Slingplayer loads for me, but does not seem to connect for me? Odd.. anybody else get it working? Only the pocket pc version will install.
I think I remember this issue on my last Windows Mobile device. You have to use isp.cingular instead of wap.cingular (which is the default configuration). isp.cingular isn't working for me on my data plan, but hopefully this fixed the issue. what is everyone else using?
wap.cingular or isp.cingular???
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Slingplayer loads for me, but does not seem to connect for me? Odd.. anybody else get it working? Only the pocket pc version will install.
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Once I realised it was the pocket pc version it installed quite easily, but I also had trouble connecting (I assume you have entered the Slingbox Finder ID along with password in the setup on the Xperia), until I changed the connection settings and unchecked the proxysetting from my operator (Telia, Sweden). I don't now the exact translation of the box but I think it is [This network connects to the Internet by a proxyserver], once this is unchecked it started to work for me, the only downside is that the software only supports resolution up to 640x480, which becomes quite a small window on a 800x480 screen. News from Slingbox is that the new software coming soon, might support higher resolutions, but until then is there any way to change the screen settings to a lower resolution to get full screen?
It's old this topic. But I have to pick it up
I got LogMeIn on my X1, connected via IE perfectly, I can see my computer, can do file management. But each time I choose remote destop, it gives me a blank screen. Nothing seem be running. It's just all blank.
What's wrong with this? Any ideas?
It's old this topic. But I have to pick it up
I got LogMeIn on my X1, connected via IE perfectly, I can see my computer, can do file management. But each time I choose remote destop, it gives me a blank screen. Nothing seem be running. It's just all blank.
What's wrong with this? Any ideas?

[Q] Windows Mobile 6.0

I asked this elsewhere, but this is a better place to post i think.
Is it possible to have Windows Mobile 6.0 run on the HTC Touch HD? If so, what ROM would I need? I want an English version. I need to run some software on it which doesnt work with WM6.1 and WM6.5
roms have to be 100% custom made with just the correct drivers for it to work on a device
it would be a first if a rom cooker spend too much time cooking an older version then what came with the device be it wm6 or wm5 for that matter
so would not hold my breath
Shame, we needed to get ~80 of these downgraded to WM6.0 for the software to work. I wonder if Orange would accept 80 returned phones
Have sw compatibility problems? I used on WM6.1 all programs from WM5 w/o problems ^^
80 Devices? You could PM directly a cooker and ask him about your problem: you could find a solution
D'rath
avisonjohn said:
Shame, we needed to get ~80 of these downgraded to WM6.0 for the software to work. I wonder if Orange would accept 80 returned phones
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80!?! Holy crap?? What are those 80 HDs used for??
It could be possible but you would need to find WVGA resolution files for the WM 6.0 SYS build first. I don't think there were any WM6.0 WVGA devices.
Got a load of phones that we issue to satellite engineers for work. We have a bit of software than rubs on the phones and the engineers use it to get customer information, allocate stock to the customer, activate the customers hardware and subscription services ect.
We have never been able to get it to work with WM6.1 or WM6.5
It gives some error about graphics or display or something along those lines.
We currently use the HTC Kaiser (TyTnII) which came with WM6.1 and we had to flash them all to WM6.0 for the software to work.
Without the software, all the staff are unable to work.
Also, is there a way that I can install certain software and configure settings on a windows mobile device, then make a backup of that device and flash it to all the other devices? Its just that having to flash 80+ devices to windows 6.0 and then install framework, then software, then setup messaging and GPRS settings and a few other dependencies can be time consuming (about 30mins per device). When this is done for 80+ devices, well....you get the idea...
Have you tried WVGA fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455974
With this you can change the screen to VGA which the program might work with.
avisonjohn said:
Also, is there a way that I can install certain software and configure settings on a windows mobile device, then make a backup of that device and flash it to all the other devices? Its just that having to flash 80+ devices to windows 6.0 and then install framework, then software, then setup messaging and GPRS settings and a few other dependencies can be time consuming (about 30mins per device). When this is done for 80+ devices, well....you get the idea...
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Yes, you can do this with backup software like Spb Backup.. it backs up the phone's installed software and registry to a file which you can execute on another phone so that it is restored to the exact same way as on the original phone.
Or you can use something free called Sashimi.
Another thing is, if the ROM has User Customization built in, you can have the ROM look for a file called SDConfig.txt on your storage card, which contains a list of CAB/XML files on your SD card to execute automatically after a flash.
rovex said:
Have you tried WVGA fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455974
With this you can change the screen to VGA which the program might work with.
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It will most definitely be the WVGA resolution that is stuffing the software up, all issues with software not running under windows 6.1 on the HD are caused by one of two issues:
1) Software dependencies, ie. Compact Framework version - I have never came across a software dependency issue that cant be fixed
2) WVGA vs VGA resolution, and in this case with it being a graphics issue you will definitely be able to get it running using the WVGA fix quoted by rovex.
All you need to do is install the WVGA fix, do a soft reset and use the program to change it to VGA mode before launching your application which wont work, i can all but guarantee this will fix the problem, of course the only issue is you will have to change the res before launching the app all the time.
I would also suggest you contact the manufacturers of the software (or if its in house contact your in house development department) and tell them to make it work in WVGA resolution, this should only be a minor change, after all they dont need to move all the controls around just ensure it loads even it dosnt use the whole screen.
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It will most definitely be the WVGA resolution that is stuffing the software up, all issues with software not running under windows 6.1 on the HD are caused by one of two issues:
1) Software dependencies, ie. Compact Framework version - I have never came across a software dependency issue that cant be fixed
2) WVGA vs VGA resolution, and in this case with it being a graphics issue you will definitely be able to get it running using the WVGA fix quoted by rovex.
All you need to do is install the WVGA fix, do a soft reset and use the program to change it to VGA mode before launching your application which wont work, i can all but guarantee this will fix the problem, of course the only issue is you will have to change the res before launching the app all the time.
I would also suggest you contact the manufacturers of the software (or if its in house contact your in house development department) and tell them to make it work in WVGA resolution, this should only be a minor change, after all they dont need to move all the controls around just ensure it loads even it dosnt use the whole screen.
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I tried using that tool, but it still didnt work. Instead I just got a screen saying "We're Sorry" and something about cprog.exe has stopped working.
We have been told that it needs to be run on version 1.81.61.2 on the Kaiser, apparently this is the display or graphics version or whatever that is required for it to run, but im thinking this is the number that shows on the bottom right of the device when powered....
Anyway to find out exactly whats causing this error or any other work around?
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I tried using that tool, but it still didnt work. Instead I just got a screen saying "We're Sorry" and something about cprog.exe has stopped working.
We have been told that it needs to be run on version 1.81.61.2 on the Kaiser, apparently this is the display or graphics version or whatever that is required for it to run, but im thinking this is the number that shows on the bottom right of the device when powered....
Anyway to find out exactly whats causing this error or any other work around?
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I would suggest talking to the developer/manufacturer of the software your trying to get to work to see if they can modify it to work WVGA resolution. This would most likely be your easiest route, especially when all new devices will be on wm6.5 or later and not compatible with wm6.0
Fallen Spartan said:
I would suggest talking to the developer/manufacturer of the software your trying to get to work to see if they can modify it to work WVGA resolution. This would most likely be your easiest route, especially when all new devices will be on wm6.5 or later and not compatible with wm6.0
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Yes, if the WVGA fix dosnt work then I can only assume that the software has been specifically designed to be locked to only work on the Kaiser phone, the only way you are going to fix this is to contact the manufacturer or employ a software engineer to reverse engineer the software and make it work on the HD, which could be costly and time consuming.

old game

Hi all,
I used to have a handheld (IPAQ, windows 3.0 OS) and had thsi old game i like a lot.
So now I have a HTC HD2 with a windows 6.5 OS and installed the game fine...... However it doesn't start after some "flickering" of the screen. the game icon is in my "games"folder allright and I can even click on it (no kidding) but it doesn't start or starts on the background but G** knows where.....
Please help ;o)
Thanks appreciate it
I
izelgv said:
Hi all,
I used to have a handheld (IPAQ, windows 3.0 OS) and had thsi old game i like a lot.
So now I have a HTC HD2 with a windows 6.5 OS and installed the game fine...... However it doesn't start after some "flickering" of the screen. the game icon is in my "games"folder allright and I can even click on it (no kidding) but it doesn't start or starts on the background but G** knows where.....
Please help ;o)
Thanks appreciate it
I
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What game is it?
Maybe the game can't be displayed on the WVGA resolution?
|t's an card game (bridge) nothing flashy or needing video settings or programm. (Gradsoft)
thanks
E
izelgv said:
|t's an card game (bridge) nothing flashy or needing video settings or programm. (Gradsoft)
thanks
E
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Do you, by any chance, have "BridgePower"? It looks like it's incompatible with WM6+, and I think that is why you can't run it.
Here's a site showing 3 games of Bridge. I think your best bet is Omar Sharif Bridge, but the full version is $14.99 (USD). But I'm not exactly sure if it will work on WM6.5+, so I think you can try the demo first.
It seems like not many people are developing Bridge games anymore because the ones I see are all for WM6 and below.
start
Hi,
Thanks for all your trouble. It's T Bridge from GRADSOFT. It worked fiine on windows Mobile 3.** on my HTC [email protected] I have windows Mobile 6.** right ?
The thing is it installed well and I even find it in the games folder and all. Problem is it startas for just a second (like a flash) and then it's gone. The gradsoft guy said to buy an upgrade....but i am being carefull
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izelgv said:
Hi,
Thanks for all your trouble. It's T Bridge from GRADSOFT. It worked fiine on windows Mobile 3.** on my HTC [email protected] I have windows Mobile 6.** right ?
The thing is it installed well and I even find it in the games folder and all. Problem is it startas for just a second (like a flash) and then it's gone. The gradsoft guy said to buy an upgrade....but i am being carefull
E
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If it was designed for Windows Mobile '3', then it almost certainly won't work.
ok ??
MMMM thanks anyway although I'd like to know why not of course
E
izelgv said:
MMMM thanks anyway although I'd like to know why not of course
E
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All of these (plus more) can cause a program to just close on start up:
Operating system dependencies will have changed/been removed (i.e. missing files)
I think 2003 and prior versions don't have .net 2.0 without an update, so the basic version will be 1.1, too many differences between them to be 100% stable with every app.
Dynamic link libraries dependencies will have changed/been removed in newer OS versions.
Screen resolutions changed/support for older ones removed in newer OS versions.
Processor architectures/speeds either not compatible or too fast for the program to work correctly, causing 'fatal' errors and closing the program.

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