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I have a Cingular 8125. I bought it only a couple weeks ago, and I have to say that if it wouldn't have been for these forums and all the tips tricks and hacks that are being discovered here - I would have taken this devvice back to the store... I have days when I love it and days when I hate it - but overall I have to say that I just barely satisfied with the performance. It just feels like the OS (wm5) is to intensive for the processor in these devices.... and is it just me ... or does anyone else feel like they also are a BETA Tester for this devices and this platform in general .... cause let's face it - these things are not for everyone - it takes a über-geek like me and you to use one
Anyway, I am rambling, but - share your thoughts...
Yes i am, with it overclocked, upgraded rom and various hacks lol... Plus it gives this forum a boost - most problems are fixable
The 195 Mhz of the Wizard are enough for PDA/phone activities. But it's too little if you want to do more wiht your device. For example, when streaming mp3 via WiFi and then immediately encode to A2DP, the machine CRAWLS.
And it is getting worse with WMV video: it won't playback any QVGA WMV videos, too slow of a cpu (tried both WMP and TCPMP).
So, it depends how you use your device.
the 8125 processor 195/200mhz is just as fast as the Verizon/Sprints Xscale 400mhz process just different chips that clock speeds differently. it's like comparing a Intel Centrino 1.5ghz to a 2ghz mmx the centrino can blow past the mmx chip in a benchmark... but anyway the device is pretty fast being that it's small and can hold a decent battery life.
a lot of people add tons of plugs to there device that really slows it down. crappy coding in a plugin can make the 8125 really slow
I have to concur with phlojo on this: I migrated from a Himalaya (XDA2) & WM2003SE onto an MDA Vario. I was seduced by the prospect of built-in wifi, smaller footprint and WM5, but I have been severely disappointed by speed, memory space and stability. The poor stability is probably due to lack of memory, but there are other 'features' :x that infuriate, like a hit and miss alarm. Today I got 2 at the same time - but I have known it to miss alarms or to lose WEP keys, which is a PITA to type in as you can't paste the key on WM5; you have to type manually.
It was suggested in this thread that these issues were caused by additionally installed user applications. All I can say it that I'm only trying to run the same apps as I did on my xda2 (GPS map finding, opera & TCMP). At the moment I give it 6/10. If I find a smaller memory footprint rom to download, this might go up.
I think those considering the upgrade version of this phone need to check the hardware specs before taking the plunge. I've got this on a 18 month contract, so I'm stuck with it for a while.
running wm5 on a vario is like running winxp on a celeron 700
definatley needs more ram as well
Hi everyone,
I was quite concerned when I went from my Dell Axim x50v to the MDA Vario.
I was worried that the jump from 624Mhz to 180Mhz would be a bridge too far!
And it nearly was.....until I upgraded my ROM to 2.17.x.x, now it is reliable, doesnt randomly reset without warning and the performance is very good.
I use Tube 2 quite a bit and Tom Tom 5.21 and find there is little noticable difference to the Axim.
I am sure media encoding and streamng would be a totally different kettle of fish though - 180Mhz is just not enough for this kind of 'work', I am sure the Axim would struggle with this too!
The question is, is this really what you want to do with your Phone/PDA when theres such good 'tools for the job' such as the Sony PSP?
Mark
as a new user to the ppc scene. i dont really know what to expect. i should be receiving my 8125 very soon..
It set to come stock with whatever cingular puts on it..
any advice from the start? im really new to this whole rom thing so dont know what to do exactly..
ive read on here that overclocking boosts performance?
Im really impressed with mine, it works twice as good as i expected it to and thats with minimal hacks, its not even overclocked
im using the latest O2 ROM and i cant say i notice any slowdowns at all.
as i've said before, it performs so much better than my old XDA IIi and thats a 500Mhz WM2003 device!
i honnestly cant complain about it in anyway ... well 1 thing i spose, the stock headphones are horrible, but they work
Mediocre phone barely useable for business
I came from a kyocera 7135, treo 650 to this phone. I had two purchase 1 program and install 3 third party apps to get the functionality of the 7135 on the treo. As for the 8125 wizard this phone is a toy. I use my phone and pda functionality to the fullest and its just been extremely frustrating. DPAD navigation is a joke if it exists for the application. Phone integration with the PIM is worthless just try to copy a phone to the clipboard it only allows to save as new contact. MS made a big deal of respond to missed calls with an sms on the treo 700. Why exclude that feature on this version. Like everything they do nothing is consistent. My favorite flaw though is something that palm does very well. Hard reset the device and your screwed. Apparently not everything is backed up. You are required to reinstall many apps.
Performance the device has to be overclocked. Its performance isn't even acceptable out of the box.
To make the device usefull you need to overclock, install a few apps for menu navigation, a few progs for system maintenance, upgrade rom, make varios registry changes. If it this forum didn't exist I would have sold the phone bought another Treo.
The device or WM5 is good on two items. Wifi and web browser. Palm droped the ball on this big time although the newest version of blazer is supposed to be much better there is still no wifi.
MS needs to work on their PIM/Phone integration and the dpad for the device. the dpad hould navigate to all controlls and menus on the screen.
anyway just my gripes.
- Richard
I love my Vario. Everyone I show it to loves my Vario. That's even without google maps mobile, which I got working today.
Yes it is slow out of the box, I ran it for my first 2 months at default speed, I only setup overclock a few days ago, but now I have it overclocked 20% 24x7 and it's so much better.
I am totally happy with it. Of course I would love the faster CPU and UMTS and scrollwheel of the Wizard II, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
I am happy with the software side. Very happy. It is the first XDA that I can rely on for receiving phonecalls, which afterall is what its for. Hell, its the first one where caller display works properly.
An overclocked XD mini-s plays QVGA videos fine for me.
I bought it knowing it would need hacking, but yeah, were it not for these forums and me being a phone nerd I'd wanna take it back.
I am not happy with hardware. The gap between the botom of te screen and case is appauling. Stuff gets down there, then the touchscreen stops working and its an arse to get out. The stylus falls out and the black paint flakes off.
Also, it randomly fried my 2GB mini-SD card, something which I have never forgiven it for as I still have not managed to replace it. Using this device without a card is impossible. If you have more than 5 photos on it, it constantly comes up with low memory errors.
The main reasons for the dreadful performance are two.
first, the processor has very small data and instruction caches. second, wm5 has this great nifty trick where system calls from a user-space process gets intercepted by the os, run, and then the results go to the process. Or something like that.
Plus, a significant portion of the os and user interface must be .**** i mean .NET which makes it even slower.
I use the custom 2.17 rom available on this site and I'm quite happy with it. Granted, I don't use it's every available feature or play mp3s and video with it often, but I do now and then, either as files or streaming off the web, and it all works fine. I was overclocking for a while but found I didn't really need it and haven't used it since the 2nd or 3rd week I had it. It's definately slower than my old Blue Angel but WM5 is so much smoother in operation than 2003SE which makes up for it. Also, just like with a pc where the keyboard is faster and more convenient than a mouse, the keyboard is much faster and more convenient than the stylus and I avoid pulling out the stylus when at all possible.
I guess everyone's milage may vary but my experience has been a very good one.
Wizard Performance
I must begin by saying that I really love the Wizard after using the ROMs and hacks on this site.
My first Windows device was a n xv6600 with verizon's EVDO network. The xv6600 has a 400 mhz processor. It was very fast but had horrible battery life, poor reception, and had to be soft reset all the time.
When I first got the 8125 Wizard, I almost sent it back. it was slow and locked up often. Next, I tried the Qtek Test ROM which worked better and had A2DP. However, I was still resetting all the time.
Now I'm running Exelencin's 2.17 Custom ROM for TMO. It works very well. The unit performs all tasks just as fast or almost as fast as the xv6600 (Blue Angel) which I still have and use as a benchmark.
I'm hooking up to the Wifi at work and home between 900 and 1200 kbps. That's faster than the EVDO speeds on the Blue Angel. The Wizard streams video from the web very well on Wifi. I'm getting Edge connections through TMO in SLC from 60 to 95 kbps. Though the EVDO is supposedly 3 to 4 times faster, it sometimes takes just as long to download some pages.
I use a ton of BT devices, including but not limited to:
I-PHONO 450RX and MOTO BT820 stereo headsets; Jabra headsets, my HP laptop with BT, and my Audi A6. The Wizard works much better than the Blue Angel. The Wizard even transferred all my contacts directly into the Audi. The BT connections are clearer and work from a longer distance.
I use a variety of foreign language dictionaries, read my mormon scriptures on the wizard. These memory intensive programs actually run faster on the Wizard than the BA. I put all programs on the sd card except one's like voice command which must be in device memory to work well. I also keep all pictures etc. on the mini sd card. Voice command can also be activated with my jabra or moto stereo headsets.
All in all, the Wizard rocks with the right ROM and settings. The battery life is simply outstanding. I can go one to one and a half days without a recharge.
The only time I get the wizard running slow is when I have half a dozen programs running. I wish programs would close when closed. I'm tired of going in the memory settings and shutting down programs I've already closed.
All in all
I have an imate Kjam which I got in MArch this year. I have installed and removed TONS of software and only had to do one hard reset as a result of crap dictionary software. I only have a speed issue when opening large Word docs with tables in it. Otherwise I am a happy camper with my device. I will not use the overclock software as I believe you are looking for trouble.
I will never go back to a regular cellphone now.
I regularly use mortplayer, TCPMP with full feature movies, Media player and Real One Player, and I have NEVER had speed/memory issues.
Remember guys that this little sucker has a DUAL CORE processor!!! It handles graphics BETTER than other faster clock speed processors.
ENJOY!!!
Something else to keep in mind for those with issues with video playback is that the 1.0 version of TCPMP is basically built from the ground up. They are reporting a VERY large increase in speed all round.
Yes you may have to fork over some cash to get all the codecs but for a player like TCPMP I dont think that $20 or so is that big an ask.
Lastly - and something I think is overlooked often - The wizard is a pretty fair phone with good battery life. I bought the unit because it was reviewed as a useable phone, sure I wanted a PPC as well but the phone had to work and not die in 1hrs use.
If all I had wanted was a PPC I would have bought something else, but I hate single taskers and to me the wizard is a great multi-tasker.
Good and bad
After applying a bunch of the tricks available on this site, I am overall quite happy with the T-Mobile MDA, over the Treo 600. I also agree that this site is necessary, but treocentral's forum was necessary, too: every advanced device needs educated users to achieve full functionality.
The biggest nuisance to me is not the speed but the fact that it is not responsive for a long time, 20 seconds or even more, occasionally.
The second biggest nuisance is that I can't search my 700 contacts for a keyword and get an answer in a realistic amount of time. On the palm, that took a couple of seconds; here, even overclocked at 240, it takes 20 minutes. What is with that?
The third nuisance is caps/shift lock, which is mostly that I am used to the Palm method and partly that the palm method makes more sense (turn on sticky with a double press, turn off with a single press of the caps or shift key).
Better things about the MDA: multitasking. wifi. VOIP. Today screen with SPB weather and diary. Runni8ng programs from the mini-SD card. Sound quality (phone and music).
8125 Works Like A Champ
My Cingular 8125 Is absolutely Fantastic...
Previous History...
I had a Samsung x427m freebie Phone and a Used Hp1910 Pocket Pc Off ebay...(150bucks) Did everything I wanted at the time... Played movies encoded at 220bit just fine... Plus I'm Cheap... had games... NES Roms... Mobipocket.... mp3's Liked the 3.5 screen...Kept it for 3-4 years...
8125...MINE...lol
1gb minisd Card
Motorola h500 Bluetooth Handsfree
1 Delux Black aluminum Case...
Firest thing I did was Update the Rom...
Cingular_RUU_225111_BETA_Custom_A2DP_THMS_RNGRS.exe
I knew That I would need to do that Much before I started any Computer geek will tell you you to find the newest Firmware/Drivers...lol
added vjvolubilis.cab to use my motorola H500 Bluetooth Handsfree To listen to music...works good...
Did the Wifi Update so It would actually connect to my wifi... I like WIFI...lol
Kept Wisebar Advanced off... Decided that it Slows up stuff a little, and doesn't like landscape with the only theme I'd actually use...no big deal,
Installed Battery Pack Pro... A MUST HAVE... lets you setup custom little icons to quickly pick application or game to run.... and will let you endtask Without having Wisebar on there... also shows battery time left and memory...
Installed MS Voice Command...
Installed Sprite Backup Another MUST HAVE... Make a quick backup when everything you want is running perfect and everything is installed...
Mobipocket reader Pro.... BOOKS>>>>BEST PROGRAM EVER FOR THIS...
Full Screen, From TXT and other pda formats... Scrolls Best way to Read a book in the Known universe...
TCPMP --- VIDEOS --- Need I say More.... full lenght dvd is about 100mb an hour... at 248 bitrate
Age Of empires Gold ---- Works Good... Good Game.... Still Wishing for AOE2 on PPC
Pocket Tombraider... Works Good... Amazing....
OverClocking Utilities
I've Tested it with the defaults 200mhz 240mhz and 252mhz, seems stable with all haven't compared battery test with them yet
Cingular 8125... Finally SET ME FREE....lol
Music
I still need to Put Pocket Music Player on there... Don't care for Mediaplayer10 but media player 10 works ok...
Movies...
I encode movies from dvd using Lathe around 248 bitrate... Plays them Perfect... without needing to overclock over 200 don't know why anyone would want higher bitrate on such a small screen...
Games - Havn't tried NES yet, but SNES was still too slow...Oh well... I'm fine with Super Mario Brothers 3 --- I'm Still afraid to Remap the phone on and off buttons for games... don't want to miss a call...lol
Tested Battery at 200mhz... thats what I keep it at... looks like playing a movie 248 bit and music and movies, reading, with blutooth off, wifi off,
will give you somewhere about 6-7 hours... WOW... my old PPC only would go for 2h 35min... Oh... the Screen Brightness was at 50% which is what my old pda looks like at 100% and looks great... brightness could go Way higher but not Necessary (wow did I just say that)
Bluetooth... H500... number 2 Handsfree device Cost me 35 bucks including shipping on ebay... Works Very Well When Close to device... Like 7-10 feet...
I use a phone like almost never.... But using the BT to Voice Dial Numbers Is Great...
I was afraid to get this because of the suposedly slower 200mhz processor... what a joke... This is way faster than my old Pda clocked at 300mhz...
I'd say the only drawback is the 2.8 screen, but it seems no to make much difference...
Price... $400 bucks... I bought it New Off Ebay... Unlocked... payed about 50 bucks more than cingular sells it for but keeps me from their stupid 2 year contract... seems worth every penny...
a friend of mine returned hers after about 5 days because she didn't know any computer stuff... had lockup problems because she didn't update Rom... The usuall stuff...lol These arn't for the completely computer illiderate...(at least straight out of the box) But I'd be hard pressed to find a better Device...
I'm pretty happy with my 8125. It's zippy enough for me. I even have Wis Bar Advance 2 loaded along with a bunch of other today plug ins and it's fine at the factory 195mhz clock speed (Though I've recently up'd the clock speed to 228 just because I can, feels zippier w/menus and webpages). It's never frozen up on me, I use Explorer A LOT (3-4 hours a day minimum) for browsing email and webpages at work. I have my Motorola H700 BT headset with me at all times so bluetooth has been turned on since I've had the device. This is the best phone I've had so far. Kicks the **** out of my Treo 650. I was a hardcore Palm user (Owned many Clie's and a Treo 600+Treo 650) and it took me a lot of convincing to "try" the 8125 but now I'm just in love with it :wink:
Hello,
I have an offer for buying O2 Atom for over 300$ which I thing is pretty cheap. But everywhere I look about this PocketPC I read mainly problems and crashes and ect.
So I want to know from you, owners of this device - is it worthed to buy this pocket or to stay with my current phone - the Nokia N80?
10x in advance
I actually chose an Atom Exec over an N80 and have not regretted it...havent had any problems in the couple of months ive had it
I've been using mine since August and have once had to soft-reset it. A very, very happy Atom Pure user here.
Note: I upgraded to the latest firmware which was incredibly easy and straight forward.
I got an Atom, original, for a really cut rate.
It's otherwise pretty good, but the default speakers leave MUCH to be desired. The music playing from them cracks up at high volumes. The only reason why I haven't gone back to O2 yet is that it has already gone back via its previous owner. Twice. And it still comes back with the same issue.
(the earphone quality, however, is fab.)
Then there's also battery life, but then again, my old O2 mini barely lasts a day and a half as well. I might be in the market for that Mugen Power after all...
Thing about smart devices is - they aren't just phones. They are computers. They act like computers, and even crash like computers. If you find that unacceptable, don't buy a smart device. Even the supposedly stable Symbian OS hangs a hell lot. >_>
Personally, I'd think twice about buying an Atom. But at around $300 you're probably not too bad off.
My only problem with the Atom is that I still don't think they've got the Radio stack right, especially with Bluetooth. And since they have already superceded the Atom with the Exec and the Stealth, I doubt whether they are going to concentrate on any updates to the Atom software/firmware.
I've recently handed my Atom over to my son and purchased an N80. I'm waiting for the N95 to come out but will give that another 9-12 months to stabilise. I want a phone. The Atom is a great PDA that is also a phone. The N80 and N95 are great phones that also have great PDA capabilities. I don't really need a computer in my pocket.
No please don't , the high pitch noise which comes out of it is a pain , voice quality sucks , even the camera is horrible , plus no keyboard , it;'s good for paperwieght though
atom vs jamin
i have been using jamin for about 1 year and recently changed to atom. Atom is pretty fast, sound, and camera much better than jamin, but difficult to configure for GPRS on PC, and at times resets when connected to GPRS on PPC. Display resolution of atom is better, but jamin has a wonderful bright display. Overall jamin is a very stable device, speed improves with overclocking, and if you use TCPMP or core player and do proper conversion of video files, e.g divX format, quality is very good, otherwise windows media player is very poor. Atom has another problem of heating in battery area when you use GPRS continuously for long time (e.g downloading files). Battery life of atom is not as bad as reported by some members.
$300 for an Atom is an excellent price. The Atom doesn't crash anymore than any other PC unless you are treating it bad -- generally people who complain about PPC problems don't know what they're doing and are damaging their phones' setups with bad practices.
My Atom Exec has never crashed on me from normal use, and I bought it second hand. To think someone else was screwing with it before me! I just did a hard reset and set it up the way I wanted it. The only times I had to soft reset was after experimenting with new software. Just backup your phone before that just in case.
The only real problem I had with my Exec was the battery life, which is really abyssmal. But removing the O2 Plus application and making sure "Receive All Incoming Beams" option is off helps a lot. I don't even lower my backlight; I hate doing that. But you'll still only get like 3 days tops for moderate usage, usually less.
Another issue I had was with the Exec overheating; using WiFi drains the battery and makes it really hot really fast. Using the camera also does this, as does any other CPU-intensive app.The bad thing about this is that it can cause problems if too hot; like your camera gets really screwed if the device is too hot. A reset followed by cooling it off fixes it though.
usmjan said:
i have been using jamin for about 1 year and recently changed to atom. Atom is pretty fast, sound, and camera much better than jamin, but difficult to configure for GPRS on PC, and at times resets when connected to GPRS on PPC. Display resolution of atom is better, but jamin has a wonderful bright display. Overall jamin is a very stable device, speed improves with overclocking, and if you use TCPMP or core player and do proper conversion of video files, e.g divX format, quality is very good, otherwise windows media player is very poor. Atom has another problem of heating in battery area when you use GPRS continuously for long time (e.g downloading files). Battery life of atom is not as bad as reported by some members.
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I don't know about the Atom but I thought the Atom Exec had better screen quality than the JAMIN. Also I thought both had the exact same resolution.
As for the N95, isn't it "what computers have become" LOL
It's good if you can live with its quirks
I've had mine for over a year now and I keep encountering these problems:
- it crashes often. A soft-reboot fixes it but it's annoying when i'm in the middle of a program. These could also be due to the programs i've loaded in it. Sometimes though it's the built in programs that freezes it, like the camera.
- battery life is pretty low- Less than a day. I have another 02, the XPhone II and the battery in that one lasts me 3 days.
- The hands free bluetooth headset isn't REALLY HANDS-FREE. Everytime I have to make a voice call, I have to hold down one of the buttons then announce a contact's name. Annoying really because it defeats the purpose of it being hands-free. The bluetooth works really well w/ my XPhoneII
- BIGGEST PROBLEM right now for me is that the battery drained to 0 and the unit shut down. Now I can't seem to charge the battery anymore?? The suggestion to charge the unit w/o the battery first then w/ the battery didn't work. So right now, I have a small brick in my hand and still awaiting help.
I've never had an issue with the built in camera crap crashing the phone, but then I don't use the camera often.
Often times crashing on PPC devices is due to the odd software loaded into it; my old PPC crashed a lot from Dinomite (a PopCap game ported by Astraware to PPC) and my current PC crashes from Monopoly.
Also running too many programs at the same time, especially the ones that do background processes, will cause it to crash. Taskbar managers like vBar and pBar are your friend.
The battery life is indeed abyssmal but it is just slighlyt below par with other PPC devices with this kind of processor. You can't compare it to the XPhone, which is only a smartphone. By the way, to improve your battery life uninstall that dreadful O2 Plus it drains your battery like crazy.
As for bluetooth handsfree I don't think there exists a trully "handsfree" solution anywhere yet. Every voice option needs you to at least press a button to activate it.
As for your phone dying now well sorry I don't know maybe it just up and gave up. Could be the new Quanta hardware isn't so durable.
Hi everybody im Passy from holland im new to this forum i have a few questions if someone can answer those
at first i saw the X1 in a store and played with it and found it
very slow and long loading times and then i thought witch phone then and then i came up here on the forum and saw that you can improve the speed with a .cab file and sd card turbo
ok 1st question
how u get this .cab file on your phone and is it hard to do
2
is it easy to put panels on it or other 3rd party apps
3
How is the battery life i now have a k850i and it last with normal use 7 days on low use 9 days i think its rather impressive but dont think the X1 can do that with bigger screen different OS but if it last 3 to 4 days im happy
3
Can i watch(HQ)youtube movies with 3g
4
support for Divx ?
5
how are the speakers?
6
Do u guys Reccomend this phone or i better can search
for a different phone like htc touch HD SE C905 or nokia 5800 express
if someone can help me with this then i can decide witch phone i get its only one month before i can buy it
GreetZ Passy
1) cab install is really easy. The two most obvious ways are: (i) copy using active sync (on PC) and a USB cable, or (ii) copy from PC to storage card and insert into phone. then just run the cab file on the phone. Depending on the software installation package you might need to install the software on your PC first and then active sync will automatically install the software the next time the phone is connected - the only one of those I've done is .NET Compact Framework 3.5.
2) installation of panels and other 3rd party software: see above If the app is unisigned then you have to accept installing a piece of software that hasn't passed the certification process and you do that at your own risk. Most of the free software is uncertificated. I've been using free apps for 3 months now and no problems!
3) Compared to a K850i the battery life will disappoint (that was my last phone too.) I use my X1 a hell of a lot more than I did my K850 - email, web browsing, etc. and I tend to get about 3 days use out of it between charges. The best I've had is 5 days when I used it only as a phone and for texting - just for batt life comparison. If you leave your WiFi on all the time expect your batt life to suck - WiFi is really power hungry.
3 (2nd one)) Yep, do a search for the YouTube cab on this forum and install!
4) yep DivX have a mobile player cab on their website. Some third party video player apps also support it too. Do a search on this forum for TCPMP for an awesome free one but make sure you get the version that some nice bloke fixed for the X1.
5) Sound from the speakers is OK. I have found that its a bit muffled when I hold the phone normally as I tend to have my hand over the speaker aperture. Headphone sound quality is excellent.
6) I'd buy it again in a heart-beat. The thing is stacked with good software and features and the keyboard is awesome. I was annoyed with the camera when I first got the phone as its not a Cybershot but the recent firmware update (I got it from here - not waiting for the SE official update) seems to have improved things. Having said that, if you want a camera phone, buy one (e.g. c905) - if you want a kick ass pda phone then this one is mustard!
Hello and welcome to XDA
regarding your questions about X1, here are some answers based on my eXperia[nce] .
1) performance is a subject that is being discussed alot, and still is, some people say it's below the expectations, others say it's perfect. from my point of view, the device is more than great for business user (not graphics)
2) panels are available by sonyericsson, others are developed by some people, still the concept is not much spread among developers so i think it will take some time to see alot of panels.
3)battery life varies from user to user, and also depends on how many applications you install and leave open, some apps consumes battery even on standby so you have to be a bit carefull of what to use and what to install. i get around 2 days with average usage (BT all the time on, Always synced with my corporates Exchange server so data connection is on 24/7 and no WiFi), some people say it lasts for 4 to 5 days, i didn't personally see this but from what i have read from the forum the average is 2 to 3 days.
4)
you tube application is there, i tested it and it works perfectly on my device, also the youtube panel works great.
5) not DivX certified like Omnia, i have no idea if it's capable of playing divX videos or not using corePlayer. other members might give more details.
6) speaker is not that much from my point of view.
7) im really happy with my X1, it's really a great business friend and a great device. generally i love it, except for some small problems (that we keep finding solutions for), it's great! the new ROM from SE (Using SEUS) made it better and faster.
if you are interested in a good PDA, regardless of it's 3D capabilities (for now as our friends here are doing much R&D on ATI Drivers) then go for it but test it before you do buy it, it's expensive piece of art
if you have other questions let me know
cheers
Wow thanks very much for ur replys think ive made my deccision i see allot of pottention in this phone and found out that its twice as packed like the G1 when i get my phone
i hope everthing go's well for now tnx for the anwers and have a great weekend
GreetZ P
Somebody hit me if found a new SE phone with a Yeah 12.1 mp camera but it think not for sale maby next year but first the X1
GreetZ P
link: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/02/15/sony-ericsson-sort-of-announces-the-121-megapixel-idou/
Ok so my first and main question is, are people still using their old blackstones, if so what for?
I'm EXTREMELY interested. I don't want to be another consumer who throws redundant tech away every 18 months if I can find a use for it. Besides it feels like a part of mobile history, the last of the resistive touch screen era, the new windows phone is too tiley, rigid and related to the disaster that was and is windows 8 and as a techie I like to tinker with things as such windows mobile 6 is just nostalgically beautiful. I could even still see myself developing an app for it in the future even now if I thought of something worth having because it reminds me of my beloved iPAQ which unfortunately I no longer have!
At the moment I'm running a Note 3 which is brilliant and HIGHLY recommended, in between I've had an S2, another good phone so as a phone the touch HD's days are well and truly over, It is however still a fairly decent pocket PC with GPS so at the very least I could still keep it in the car as a backup tomtom.
I first got my hands on an iPAQ 4150 (my reason for joining XDA!) a decade ago, I was 15 at the time and I'd coveted iPAQs for years so when I finally got one I felt like the king of kids along with my 5 friends and younger brother who also had various flavours of pocket pc (his Axim X5 - ironically now worth about £5 is sat on the desk next to me). While I used it for many things including videos, playing monopoly, universal remote, bible, reading ebooks and taking notes in class its main purpose was as a fancy MP3 player with that wonderful bass boosting app called Pocket Music!
On this basis and for old times sake I've decided that I wish to resurrect my Touch HD as a Pocket PC and second mp3 player.
This brings me to my next question, whats the largest/fastest micro SD you've managed to get yours to recognise? I just tried the 64gb sdxc from my note 3 and unfortunately no luck there.
One thing that has disappointed/shocked me somewhat is how difficult it seems to be to find all the millions of programs that used to be, handango was packed, and I've long since deleted all the things I used to have fortunately I did manage to torrent a copy of pocket music! Wahoo! :victory: guilt free it was paid for a long time ago.
So far, I've removed my 6.5 Energy ROM and swapped it for Duttys 6.1 XT turbo for the sake of speed (it was the ONLY 6.1 ROM I could still find - the original orange one having long since disappeared from their (and seemingly any other) website. While the energy home was beautiful it was laggy and drudgerous to use (im sure its fine on LEO) which brings me to my third question.
Does anyone know how I can keep touchflo but still use the default windows mobile 6.1 start menu? I like the touchflo homescreen with the clock and I would still find the weather tab useful over wifi so I would like to keep that if possible but I haven't found a way to have that with default start menu on dutts rom. Alternatively, could anyone point me toward the Orange Rom?
Last question, overclocking, if I remember correctly 670 mhz is easily achievable but at the time I fiddled with this (many years ago) we could only do it while plugged in. I'm certain that has been answered elsewhere but while I'm here, I might aswell add it to the list. Is it now possible to have the OC running on battery power?
To summarise; I want a mininmalist almost iPAQ like OS, windows mobile 6.1, few fancy bits, no social media, no crap, if I could remove facebook from this version of duts rom and other things I deem unnecessary I shall, I want it as fast as possible (my iPAQ was fast and simple with a 400mhz processor so there's no reason this can't be), with the biggest SD card I can find. I want to overclock it, and I'd love to know if there's anywhere that we can still find all the thousands of interesting old apps and games that seemingly used to be out there. I've even toyed with the idea of asking about windows mobile 5 although I dropped the thought when I realised I'd probably lose camera functionality.
And remember first and foremost, I also want to know.. How do you eat yours? :silly::laugh:
Quick update, this rom looks absolutely delicious in 6.1 guise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
Download links here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/elwe84Mo/Kwbr.html#dir=Lj5MJ7Y2
Had to sign up for 4 shared, flashing now.
Works brilliantly and after flashing 10 roms in a day its my favourite by a long way, only thing is that the weather function won't work via wifi (not tried gprs), any ideas anyone?
So from what I've been able to garner the Touch HD takes micro SDHC but is not compatible with the newer SDXC. While this limits us to 32GB it's still good news because the old walkman mp3 player I have been using was 16GB and these days the fastest top class 32GB micro SDHC card can be had for as little as £12.99! That means I can essentially double the capacity of my mp3 player for £12.99! Clearly, there's still life in the old phone yet!
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/compatible-memory/Mobile_Phones/HTC/HTC+Touch+HD_Memory_Cards
I still use mine as my mobile phone and for Tom tom and storing passwords. It's gone through a few batteries and a new stylus and a new screen. It constantly gives me the shixs because it's a slow ass phone. I'm just waiting for that perfect unicorn rainbow encrusted replacement phone. Thanks for recommending the rom, I'll try it out to see if I can be bothered putting up with this hunk of junk a bit longer.
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Works brilliantly and after flashing 10 roms in a day its my favourite by a long way, only thing is that the weather function won't work via wifi (not tried gprs), any ideas anyone?
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weather works on mine with wifi.
Holy crap the touch hd is a slow phone. Everything takes at least 3 seconds to respond when clicking. THere must be a quicker rom... I did install the sense 2 version.
I installed the 6.1 weather one. and I overclocked it using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747813
The weather didn't work at first. I dunno what fixed it, but I turned off location awareness in settings on touch flo. then i went to weather deleted all the extra cities, then i updated and turned on location services when it asked and it worked. may be a fluke.
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I installed the 6.1 weather one. and I overclocked it using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747813
The weather didn't work at first. I dunno what fixed it, but I turned off location awareness in settings on touch flo. then i went to weather deleted all the extra cities, then i updated and turned on location services when it asked and it worked. may be a fluke.
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"all settings" fix in settings tab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5507019&postcount=6328
geez the touchhd was a dumb phone. I still am using it because i'm too cheaparse to buy a new phone. But damn... iphone killer it was not. Slow piece of rubbish with a bad camera.
Spent ages trying different variations of manilla and boy are they laggy. A bit better with overclocking. so tried winterface, point ui, spb mobile shell, cHome. Finally the today screen with resco plugin is the quickest. I can't believe i've been putting up with spb and touchflo all this time instead of the today screen.
I bought my Touch HD in december 2008. I have been using it until september 2015. Reason for replacing it was a standy time of only a few hours. (I ditched my Motorola A780 for the same reason btw.) I bought a new battery, but that didn't solve the problem. I was running the WM 6.5 Energy ROM, which made it more touch friendly than the original WM 6.1.
The Moto X Play I have now looked ridiculously big at first, but now I am used to it the Touch HD seems ridiculously small .
I liked using it, but noe I have more reasons to not want the Touch HD anymore: speed (or lack of it) and the non-capacitive, scratch sensitive touch screen.
I am not into replacing a phone every one or two years. I think 7 years is a nice lifetime for a smartphone. So my Moto X Play has at least another 6,5 years to go.
I know I am kicking an old topic, but it's an old phone too. I wonder if there are still people who use it as their everyday phone.
It is permanently in my car always on the charger, serving as music player and backup phone.
I'm still using mine
I've tried the modern Windows phone and Androids but they just don't have the functionality that ~I need. I like being able to use my fingernail on the touch screen for better accuracy than a great big fingertip. I like having a full QWERTY keyboard like the Resco keyboard without constantly having to shift from numbers to characters to symbols. I like the drop-down menus and I like the fact that I don't have to search for the phone app to use my phone as a phone.
The only downsides are the reception in poor signal areas is not as good as my wife's Samsung and the OPERA browser doesn't work very well but then I have a laptop for serious work.
I somebody would bring out an updated version of this phone running Win 6.1 mobile then I'd bite their hand off and upgrade but as it is I'll stick to my Touch HD as long as I can keep it running.
Use all the time
I use mine every day for telephone, email, calendar/diary syncs with OUTLOOK, contacts, word, excel, as a clock, as an alarm.
I use it occasionally as a SatNav, read the Bible on it.
It's now getting a bit long in the tooth and with 2G/3G starting to get switched off I'm now looking for a way to migrate all my stuff including Win Mobile 6.1 to and Android phone. If anybody has a good way to upgrade an Android phone to Windows Mobile 6.1 then I'm all ears.
Hey guys. So I just received my new smart watch today and I'm loving it! Wanted to start a thread about it asking if any of you have it so for. It's a pretty new watch and in the coming days hopefully I'll be posting some pics and vids.
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Hey guys. So I just received my new smart watch today and I'm loving it! Wanted to start a thread about it asking if any of you have it so for. It's a pretty new watch and in the coming days hopefully I'll be posting some pics and vids.
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Got one of these a few weeks ago and so far:
Runs like a dream, considering it's size
Will run all the apps I have installed on it so far.
Will not let me put an SDcard in that is 32GB or 16GB will only work with the bundled 8GB card. So I assume this might be formatted differently (have not checked)
Cannot get GPS to work! Perhaps it is not using a standard "western GPS chip"?
Camera is ok, but no zoom and you have to put your wrist down otherwise you take a picture of your hand.
MAJOR ISSUE ! Battery Power ! Says it can work for 24 hours with light use. Ha Ha Ha Ha what a load of BS. Lucky if you get 7 - 8 hours out of the battery with 3G working (Skype and FB apps running in the background, no GPS on, no BT on and no WIFI on)
That is about it so far if anyone has any other info I would be glad to read, because there is didly squat online about this watch/phone
More details.
http://des.everbuying.net/uploads/2015/201506/heditor/201506151339263138.jpg
Fashion Genuine Leather Watchband FIFINE W9 3G Smart Watch Phone Android 4.4 MTK6572 Dual Core 1.0GHz 1GB RAM 8GB ROM Bluetooth Living Waterproof Snapphire Glass Screen 5.0MP Camera Aluminum Stainless Steel Cover
Main Features:
OS:Android 4.4
CPU: MTK6572 Dual Core 1.0GHz
RAM+ROM: 1GB RAM + 8GB ROM (with 8GB TF card)
Bluetooth version: Bluetooth 4.0
Display: 240 x 240pixels
Camera: 5.0MP
Support MP3/MP4/GPS/WiFi/3G Function
Compatibility：Compatible with Android smart phones
Network:
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G WCDMA: 2100MHz
What you get with your package.
Cell Phone: 1
Battery: 1 x 600mAh
Charger: 1
USB Cable: 1
An extra screen protector
Cleaning cloth
I was pleasently surprised to find an 8GB SD card already there. That plus the 8GB built in storage (4.88GB of which is usable) leaves you with enough storage for your apps and music. Videos too if you're interested in watching on a teeni tiiny screen. It has a certain buzz to it. Lol. Also, it had a screen protector on it.
Another awesome feature that I found was that it has a BT notification app so you can sync it with your watch to receive notifications on it from your phone and basically use it as android wear which is what some imacwear users are dying for.
OK so I might have been quick to "diss" the battery power. Today the W9 has been going for 14 hour 26 mins so far I don't know if this is to do with the fact that the battery needed to "bed down" or because of the fact that I turned the back light to it's minimum setting? Well it is back to a middle setting so we will see what happens And is currently sat at 55% ..... we shall see.
Anyway more info :
The touch display, I would say, misses 5% of my "touching" but I do have problems with my moto g and it's touch screen, so I would say it will probably work for most people 100%.
What has surprised me, is that using a keyboard half the size of a postage stamp with a little finger which fills about 1/4 of the screen is quite accurate! Type the wrong letter, hit delete and then move the little finger to the right or left a millimetre or so and you have the right letter. Although typing like that takes ages. Solution ! Download the google keyboard and download your language of choice "offline version" and use speech to type, seems to work very well apart from the dual core chip working in overtime to keep up.
Back in a few days or hours with some more updates Just got GPS to get working!
OK the battery problem is not due to wifi lol.
If you charge the battery while the phone is on it does not charge properly, or does not charge enough, don't know which?
If you charge the battery in the off state while it "flickers" on and off the animated battery icon, it seems to charge the battery completely(?)
Charged the watch yesterday afternoon, while on and got 6 hours out of watch before it switched off. Charged it last night while in the "off state" and it has currently been running for 14 hours!
So if you want to get a full charge from your watch battery charge it while shutdown
Where to buy and how much
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Where to buy and how much
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http : / / www . everbuying . net / china-fifine-w9.html
(Of cause without the spaces)
Cost £92.62 on website, but after paying through paypal this turned to £95.98 approx and took around 2 weeks to get here
Can it work in the US. What's that in us currency
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Interesting info!
That's some interesting info on the battery life. Personally I leave the wifi and data connection off so at the end of the day I still have about 60 % battery remaining. I have managed to get the phone rooted and am looking to explore further. I bought the product at everbuying.com for $140. Compared to all the other smart watches this is the best bang for the buck because of the 1 GB ram and 8 GB ROM at such a low price. If you want I can do a video review of it and post it up.
I did install google keyboard and I love the gesture typing but for some reason I can't get the voice input to work. When I go to settings there isn't even an option for voice input in languages and input. I do have the mike button on my keyboard however its not working for some reason. when I click on it nothing happens.
My problem with the battery life is that it may be saying 82% and next minute the battery is dead! If I charge it when switched off I assume the electronics charge the battery but when switched on I assume the software takes over, a does not charge it fully?
Right the reason what you are getting no speech input (recognition) is that you have to be connected online via 3g. The alternative is to download the "offline" voice data.
Settings > Personal > Language & input > Google voice typing > offline speech recognition
When you use this offline it is a little slower (you get the feeling the dual core chip is working it's ass off) but it does work !
Would be interested to know what you used to root the unit?
Also would like to know if you have got the GPS working? (I still have had no luck getting this to work)
Oh and the reason I bought it was for GPS and the 1 GB ram. You try running any apps in 512Mb lol
Haha. True. I had the imacwear m7 and it would get laggy at times. I haven't tested the GPS yet but I wanna download offline maps for it like sygic or here maps.
Also, I dont have a "google voice typong " option in language and input.
I used kingoroot to root it and it was done in less then 5 mins.
I have 2 questions. 1. Have you got any lockscreen watch faces to work other then the stock ones? I have tried watchmaker but its not really good. Also, is there a way to leave the backlight on permanently? I realise that will kill my battery in a few hours but I just think it will be cool for the watch to show at all times.
2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.
First, GPS finally got it working
It would probably have worked out of the box but could have taken 15 mins or more to do a satellite lock.
How to fix :
http : / / www . chinasmartphonereview . com / fix-gps-problems/
(With out spaces)
I now start to get a lock in around 10 seconds for the first sat and around 30 seconds for 5 when outside.
Inside forget it! Through a window forget it!
Now I have a satnav on my wrist
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qasimala said:
1. Have you got any lockscreen watch faces to work other then the stock ones?
2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.
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1) Sorry no but I assume you would have to root the device before being able to do this? And I don't want to do that yet. Plus I like the one that looks like an old digital watch
2) No I have not tried the btremind app, as I wanted the watch to be an independent comms device. Have you had a look through the watch storage (as yours is rooted) and spotted anything there?
Hello:
¿Is this Fifone W9 good to use only as a smartphone?
Many thanks.
OldGavi said:
Hello:
¿Is this Fifone W9 good to use only as a smartphone?
Many thanks.
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I would say yes with a few limitations......
1) Screen is small but everything I have "thrown" at it so far works. Firefox,Mx player,Skype, Advance task manager, Navigator (Free), Facebook App, Google translate (Offline), Google voice search, speech recog (offline a little slow) GPS tools etc etc
2) Typing on the screen is "doable" but slow, get yourself a mini Bluetooth keyboard and you are away....
3) Battery! Battery is the only problem. Mine seems to have a mind of its own. Charge it one day and it will last over 24 hours, charge it another day and it lasts 6 hours????? Still not worked this one out but finding more and more about this device every day.
4) You do look like **** Tracy when using the phone, look him up on youtube if you don't know what I am on about.
Hope that helps
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2. Have you managed to connect it to your smartphone for reminders and notifications etc through the the btremind app? I can't seem to find the apk for the server on the phone side.
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Qasimala if you go into the BTreminder app on the watch, it tells you in the help to look for an app on the play store called WatchAssistant.apk Still have not tried this yet.
Oh rooted with Kingo no problem thanks
Ju_ excuse my bad English . I 'm writing from Spain .
Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer.
I would use this watch sporadically , to do some hands-free calls , receive and answer some whatsapp , and some e- mails.
Not too much.
Do you think I can use this watch for these operations?
Thank you very much and apologize for any inconvenience
how to connect this watch
I bought this watch for its feature set and elegant design. I found the identical watch from a number of different vendors at widely varying prices. No one offered any real support and the specified companion reminder program does not exist. I have tried every bluetooth reminder app on playstore and have found only two that actually work. It seems that the software in this watch is actually from unova. One clue is that the help program is from unova. The playstore unova ironman bt reminder program works with this watch when installed on my s4. The only other program I could make work is swapapp when installed on both the phone and watch. I still have a few issues with the watch, but overall, its a fine piece of hardware. I'm looking forward to learning from other user expieriences.
Using this watch just basically would get you through the day I believe if you keep it on 2g and keep the GPS off. I really love this thing and would recommend it to one and all.
Thanks so much for telling me how to connect the watch to the phone. I tried unova and it does work.
I keep trying to push this watch's limits. I played angry birds go racing on it without a hitch. Gonna try NFS most wanted next
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Ju_ excuse my bad English . I 'm writing from Spain .
Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer.
I would use this watch sporadically , to do some hands-free calls , receive and answer some whatsapp , and some e- mails.
Not too much.
Do you think I can use this watch for these operations?
Thank you very much and apologize for any inconvenience
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Your English is better than mine and I am from England lol
You will not have any problem doing what you want above. Also you probably would not need a BT Headset as speech to the watch is good and sound from the watch is a good volume, you might just have to turn the CD player down
If you want to know how well the watch performs read the comment by qasimala Need for speed on a watch lol !!!! Let me know how it goes qasimala
This watch continues to surprise me! Need for speed is working super smooth! I'll upload a video when I'm near a WiFi hotspot sometime. I use the watch for a few things mainly. I record lessons in class, listen to music on an earpiece which I bought together with the watch, I use it for working out (installed the madbarz app and it works like a wonder), I take the occasional picture or video without anyone noticing and whenever I'm bored and don't have access to my phone, I play games on it. Just got the idea to install here maps on it. I think it'll be really good because it gives you turn by turn directions offline which will probably increase the battery life on navigation quite a bit. Will let you guys know how it works out.