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OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?
I was very annoyed at people working on 2005 for xda2 at the time as I believed that we would get grief from MS about it. It seems that, on the whole, that hasn't happened.
I got a 2i thinking that it would be the next upgrade, therefore when an even newer one comes along - ie Universal - I would be better placed to flog the 2i to pay for it. I'm almost starting to regret that decision as I would dearly love the have 2005 on my 2i...and if I had kept the xda2 I would have been enjoying 2005y goodness by now. Grrr!!
Bring on Universal that's what I say!!
Ant
AlanJC said:
OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?
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Yes there's other released roms for your ALPINE especially from IMATE and Qtek... So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
Good Luck my friend..
So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
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where can us xda 2i owners find th imate rom!?
Yeah, I thought you had to enter your IMEI to access images on the i-mate site.
Have you got a direct link please?
Here!
Many thanks, getting it now
Alan,
I read your thread and have similar dislikes about me Alpine. I have an O2 XDAIIi.
How did your upgrade go?
I downloaded the ROM upgrade but haven't installed it. I am really green at this and not sure how/if I should back up the ROM I have in case I need to restore. Did you do that? Can you guide me on how?
If the ROM upgrade was successful, were you able to install 2005? Again, can you point me in the direction of that download, and instructions.
Greatly appreciated,
Kyle
Try this page, it's about the most up to date ROM for the 2i at the moment. I've had no problems with it at all.
Urm.. you didn't actually post a link?
I am using the i-mate one at the moment, too many people seem to be having problems with the O2 1.11 ROM
True
Sorry, blonde moment there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
I reckon the problem with the new O2 ROM is the radio stack is still the original one. The radio stack on the ROM in the above link is the much better I-mate one with the updates of the O2 ROM.
Hi,
1. Just received an O2 XDA II, however:
a) "XDA II" is what is printed on the phone (Silver) case but when I
turned it on "XDA IIs" is shows up during the phone start up.
For info,
O/S is WinMobile 2003 2nd Ed., Ver. 4.21.1088.
Processor is Intel PXA263
ROM Version / Date is 2.06.00WWE / 06-14-04
Radio Version: 1.18.00
So what does this make my phone, an XDA II or XDA IIs?
b) In the [Programs] menu window, there is a folder:
"Communications/WiFi Tools/WLAN Tools (Mobile Edition)"
The WLAN program is from "www.socketcom.com" - (Utility Version
2.0 and a Build Date of Jan 20, 2005)
Does this mean I can WIFi? And do I still need to get a WiFi Card or
the phone itself is already WiFi capable?
2. I also have an O2 XDA II Mini which I have been using for the past year. So far I have already sync the "Contacts" and the other files from my Mini to the XDA II.
However, is there a way to copy/sync its "Messages" folders to my O2 XDA II? I have saved a lot of important texts and made numerous subfolders, and thus really need to duplicate the existing format to my other unit. So far using Active Sync and Microsoft Outlook has not worked for me.
Appreciate any advise you can give.
Thanks, Pogi
Does it have a slide out keyboard at the bottom ?
the XDA IIs is supposed to !
Nope. The unit itself is XDA II. However, when I trun on the phone, the start up displays "XDA IIs". Plus there is a WLAN program (XDA II does not usually have this). Tx
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Does it have a slide out keyboard at the bottom ?
the XDA IIs is supposed to !
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The XDA 2i looks like and XDA 2 and has built-in WiFi. Does yours actually have WiFi, or just a program (which doesn't actually do anything)?
Mine has the WLAN program and just needs a Wi-Fi Card to run.
Thanks
Pare, what you have over there is an XDAII but with software upgraded to WM2003 Second Edition giving it the same software as the XDAIIs so the only difference that I know of between the XDAII (upgraded) and the XDAIIs is the keyboard (XDAIIs has a builtin one), WLAN (XDAIIs has it builtin) and the larger memory and faster chip on the XDAIIs.
Pare, what you have over there is an XDAII but with software upgraded to WM2003 Second Edition giving it the same software as the XDAIIs so the only difference that I know of between the XDAII (upgraded) and the XDAIIs is the keyboard (XDAIIs has a builtin one), WLAN (XDAIIs has it builtin) and the larger memory and faster chip on the XDAIIs.
Maraming salamat for the info. So does this mean ... all I need is to buy a Wi-Fi card? What brand to you suggest besides Sundisk?
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Pare, what you have over there is an XDAII but with software upgraded to WM2003 Second Edition giving it the same software as the XDAIIs so the only difference that I know of between the XDAII (upgraded) and the XDAIIs is the keyboard (XDAIIs has a builtin one), WLAN (XDAIIs has it builtin) and the larger memory and faster chip on the XDAIIs.
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Also, is there a way I can copy the messages (especially those in my folders) from my XDA II Mini to my XDA II?
Thanks again, pre
to be honest, I haven't really tried the wifi on the XDAII at all though the specs on the official website says it'll work.
Ok, thanks again sa tulong
XDA ii Format
Is anoyone know how i can format my XDA ii and istall again.
Thanks
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WM2005 is too slow and buggy for my liking, is there a way to get WM2003 on the MDA pro?
I can live with it if not, but WM2005 is horribly slow in comparison to 2003.
You read my mind
I was wondering the same thing just ealier today. I miss my Blue Angels performance. It never locked up and was plenty fast enough. It would be great to hae this performance and reliability on the Universal.
I have both the devices... BA with 1.42 ROM
BA feels faster only when there are very few apps running. However there are too many bugs and memory errors even when I am not running any app. Talk about closing WMP while it is playing and your loose the sound and have to reboot
WM5 is a bit slower but is much more usable IMO.
STILL... is there any chance of downgrading to 2003se??? no doubt its a universal truth that 2003se is much more stable and user-friendly than wm5, and is compatible with a lot more programs.
99.999999% sure there's no way you'll ever see WM2K3SE on a Universal.
Simply because there hasn't been any commercial need for it.
It was probably developed after MS had made WM5 betas for the Himalaya and Blue Angel.
And when they know that the Universal will be using WM5 in the end; why use resources on making a WM2K3SE ROM for it??
Sorry to dissapoint you..
aaah.. well that's ok, I just installed the latest o2 rom 1.30.107 wwe, and thats much much better than the previous one. I won't miss 2003se. 8)
Where can I get that O2 rom above and how would I install it? Thanks.
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Where can I get that O2 rom above and how would I install it? Thanks.
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you can find it here,
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Universal/
althought I downloaded 1.30.162, but after installation in device information it says 1.30.107..!!
YOU CANNOT DOWNGRADE Jasjar to 2003SE, because Jasjar and WM5 have totally new memory handling algorythms. This hardware incompatible with the previous operation system.
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STILL... is there any chance of downgrading to 2003se??? no doubt its a universal truth that 2003se is much more stable and user-friendly than wm5, and is compatible with a lot more programs.
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no no i totally disagree. WM5 is much more stable and user friendly than wm2003se. wm2003se would crash for no real obvious reason sometimes, WM5 never froze on me (except if a program was crazy, using iGO & minimizing it, that causes a freeze). you can run 5-10 apps on WM5 without ANY slowdown i'd notice. WM2003SE, not bad but you can notice the slow down. and the softkeys, well i hated them for the first time but then realized how useful they are when you don't want to use the stylus... absolutely cool. now regarding usability without stylus, we're finally getting closer to the ideal, the handheld pc. now why can't i have a ctrl key on the universal's keyboard??
In just 4 days, after installing the latest O2 rom I had to change my opinion, WM5 Proved itself to be the best mobile os yet, and its working too fine now , no hangs at all.. i wonder why:!: I'm kind of in love with the Jasjar, but I fear that the screen will get loose after sometime at the both pivoting points ,
you are right about the stylus-less use, not touching the screen too often does give you a satisfying feeling. :wink:
wm2003 on the Universal DOES exist
99.999999% sure there's no way you'll ever see WM2K3SE on a Universal.
Simply because there hasn't been any commercial need for it.
It was probably developed after MS had made WM5 betas for the Himalaya and Blue Angel.
And when they know that the Universal will be using WM5 in the end; why use resources on making a WM2K3SE ROM for it??
Sorry to dissapoint you..
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Actually If Im not mistaken the T-Mobile MDA IV shipped with wm2003se. I saw on ebay a few days ago an auction for a universal (I can't remember which it was, I feel like It was an imate jasjar) that was clearly running wm2003. There were pictures of the device and its screen with the new menu at the base. Its possible it could have been the new menu hack for wm2005, but there wasn't a second menu item on the right, and while it could also have been a hoax, it seems pretty unlikely. The point is Im sure that a rom for the universal with wm2003se DOES exist, the question is where to get it. I certainly would like to trade in this useless M$ BT stack for a more functional widcomm/broadcomm stack, or even bluesolei.
Re: wm2003 on the Universal DOES exist
Sess said:
Actually If Im not mistaken the T-Mobile MDA IV shipped with wm2003se. I saw on ebay a few days ago an auction for a universal (I can't remember which it was, I feel like It was an imate jasjar) that was clearly running wm2003. There were pictures of the device and its screen with the new menu at the base. Its possible it could have been the new menu hack for wm2005, but there wasn't a second menu item on the right, and while it could also have been a hoax, it seems pretty unlikely. The point is Im sure that a rom for the universal with wm2003se DOES exist, the question is where to get it. I certainly would like to trade in this useless M$ BT stack for a more functional widcomm/broadcomm stack, or even bluesolei.
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you're mistaken. there's no MDA IV, only MDA Pro anyway, link to the auction please
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Hi all,
I have O2 exec WM5 and tomtom 6 on it. It run very well.
However, AFter upgrade to WM6 , Tomtom 6 will not work on my O2 exec sue to not compatible.
Any advice to make it work, or i have to downgrade to WM5
I have make all backup before upgrade to WM6.
In addiiton, If i wanna downgrade in order to using Tomtom 6, What should i Do? Just run the back up or do i have to run upgrade ( with WM5) agian to downgrade it.
What is the risk for doing that?
Thanks
lonelyboy2003 said:
Hi all,
I have O2 exec WM 2003 and tomtom 6 on it. It run very well.
However, AFter upgrade to WM6 , Tomtom 6 will not work on my O2 exec sue to not compatible.
Any advice to make it work, or i have to downgrade to WM 2003
I have make all backup before upgrade to WM6.
In addiiton, If i wanna downgrade in order to using Tomtom 6, What should i Do? Just run the back up or do i have to run upgrade ( with WM 2003) agian to downgrade it.
What is the risk for doing that?
Thanks
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To be honest, I'm not sure what you are talking about. For starters there's no problem with TomTom 6 on WM6, it works fine, and even if there were a problem you could only take your Exec back to WM5, as there is no WM2003 ROM for the Exec.
If you are having problems installing TomTom 6, then a bit more info as to what the symptoms of the problem are would be helpful to diagnose the fault, and come up with a solution.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
To be honest, I'm not sure what you are talking about. For starters there's no problem with TomTom 6 on WM6, it works fine, and even if there were a problem you could only take your Exec back to WM5, as there is no WM2003 ROM for the Exec.
If you are having problems installing TomTom 6, then a bit more info as to what the symptoms of the problem are would be helpful to diagnose the fault, and come up with a solution.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Thanks for your reply.
After i install tomtom 6 ( it's second time), it is not compatible for this device.
Thanks
TT3, TT5 & TT6 work fine on my WM6 exec... Are you dure you have the right version? The Smartphone one is NOT the one you want. You want the PDA version.
Psi
PsiDOC said:
TT3, TT5 & TT6 work fine on my WM6 exec... Are you dure you have the right version? The Smartphone one is NOT the one you want. You want the PDA version.
Psi
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Finally, i got it works on my O2 exec. Thanks
I bought an MDA3 with WM6 via ebay.
The bluetooth stack is not very good (DialUpNetwork does not work, ...).
Is there a better one (Broadcom instead of Microsoft)?
I tried "Broadcom_Bluetooth_Manager.CAB",
but I got "bluetooth radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory" :-(
And "ba_wm5_broadcom1.7_test.rar" seems to be older than "Broadcom_Bluetooth_Manager.CAB".
What can you recommend to me?
(And another question:
How can I find out, whether I have Helmi's WM6 ROM or some other one?
It is ROM 5.60.00 WWE 03/02/05, Radio 1.15.00, Protocol 1337.45)
Really nobody out there, who can help me ?
gce said:
Really nobody out there, who can help me ?
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Suggested you can use Sun_Dream's Rom. Try to connect your Bluetooth stereo at firstly, then del the equip under the list, finally reconnect by click your BS equip. you will find all will be good in this action. Certainly D700's Bluetooth stack is quite ill to use, don't expect use it as normal.
Dial-Up has been deleted in WM6 and wm6.1, because preferred way of sharing the internet connection is to use "Internet Sharing" application, that is built-in.
Apart from the fact, that it has problems with keeping 2 active Bluetooth connections I see no problems with Windows BT Stack in BlueAngel.
The only other way is to go back down to WM5 Helmi 1.3.2 ROM and install Widcomm Bluetooth Stack made by Helmi for this ROM (Please note: you cannot just install a new BT stack from different provider: Bluetooth stack must be engineered for the specific ROM and the only 2 cases it will work for BA is update of the BT stack in WM2003 up to v3900 and WM5 1.3.2 Helmi ROM update I mentioned above).
First of all many thanks for the answers.
As to "Internet Sharing", I am a little bit confused.
Isn't this to use the Blue Angel as an internet modem for a PC?
But I need something else (which works quite well WM2003):
Use my UMTS/HSDPA mobile phone as an internet modem for my Blue Angel.
And this seems not to work with the Bluetooth stack in WM6 :-(
Any idea, what I could do (except going back to WM2003 or WM5)?
And did I correctly understand, that there are alternative Bluetooth stacks for WM2003 and WM5 but not for WM6 and WM6.1 ??