Keyboard in Landscape to big - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

I would love to use my pocket PC in landscape but have always had the problem that the keyboard or Letter recognizer takes up half the screen, has anyone seen a remidy for this, I always use Letter recognizer and I am sure they could make it aliitle lower and still have it useable.
This is where the new HTC with keyboard will really be great.

Related

SPB Full screen keyboard? Anyone use it?

Just wondering if anyone has used the spb full screen keyboard or not on thier VX-6800. According to Handango it's compatible but Spb doesn't show WM 6 on it nor has it been upgraded in a long time.
The only reason I ask is that I'm looking for a full on-screen keyboard instead of using the small pop up one (with the stylus and hen-pecking) or the pull out keyboard and having to hit the blue button everytime I want to enter punctuation. It slows me down a bit esp when trying to respond in a meeting.
Thanks!
SPB Full Screen Keyboard
Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
fvongraf said:
Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IMO, the price is a bit too high for what it offers. I'd pay 5$ max for such a keyboard, or it would be great as freeware
why on earth would you use an on-screen keyboard for a phone that has a QWERTY slide out hardware keyboard? I can type on my 6800 keyboard almost as fast as I can on my regular computer keyboard, it is nice.
that is why I am waiting for prices to come down on the Touch Pro...going froma 6800 to a 6900 (Touch) is a downgrade in my opinion since no slide-out keyboard.
on-screen keyboards are worthless in my opinion.
However - to answer you question though, most sites dont list WM6, because most phones still ship with WM5, but anything that works with WM5 will work on WM6, or at least everything I have tried for the past year, and I am installing new stuff 24/7
spb is a waste of time
The only reason to have an onscreen keyboard on a titan is to do one handed texting and the spb keyboard blows for that. Use the htc touchpal (I believe the touch comes stock with this keyboard), the only onscreen keyboard, plus when installed it is set automatically as your default keyboard so you don't have to position your thumbnail just right to try and select a different onscreen keyboard.
I tried it but I didnt like it. The buttons still arent big enough on the screen to really work as a keyboard. I dont have large thumbs, but I was constantly pressing the key immediately above, beside, or below the one I wanted to push.
I use the transcribe tool or the keyboard.
The newest version works great
With the new option for the full or half screen keyboard it's alot more useful for texting when you can't use the qwerty slide
I don't know what you are talking about it is the biggest pressable keyboard there is for the titan. You must be thinking of something different. I believe this is the one you really want.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cootek-touchpal-v2-0.html

Best Keyboard?

I'm using TouchPal at the moment, but it doesn't change when you switch to landscape. Can anyone recommend a decent keyboard which makes use of all that space in landscape?
Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
ekerbuddyeker said:
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a very personal choice so you should try out all of them. What I like most is Tengo, but not necessarily what you like. Iphone keyboard does not appeal to me at all.
ekerbuddyeker said:
is there any KB out there as good as the iphone KB, including predictability?
HD KB isnt bad, but can drive me crazy sometimes as it isnt smart. T9 is prone to errors that place words in the middle of the sentance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? Its predictability is rather average especially for a full QWERTY, and it is not nearly as thought-through as TouchPal (my favourite, if you can't tell ). TouchPal is so easy to use as it is a breeze to switch between all the possible modes, there is no soft keyboard for me that types faster than its SureType (2 characters per key) mode, in fact I don't have much difference in typing speed between this and my Blackberry's suretype board, which I loved, as I can type blindly and a lot faster on suretype than on qwerty. Best of all: activate word prediction, and it is a SureType, deactivate prediction and it is a QWERTY, without changing views. Nice feat if you want to throw in a URL or a custom word in between...
The ONLY drawback as far as I am concerned is the lack of a landscape mode, and it doesn't even feel like a drawback to me since I hate keyboards that completely change layout when the screen rotates. All fine and dandy that there is more space available for a KB in landscape mode but the fact that I need to change typing style along with the screen orientation every time gets old really fast.
Just my $0.02.
IceEyz said:
Heh, I wish I could get TouchPal to work on my HD, but it refuses to install correctly.
I honestly thought TouchPal was the best keyboard out there. SPB Keyboard 4.0 has a landscape-fullscreen keyboard, which occupies the whole screen, with one line of text input. The HTC landscape keyboard isn't that bad either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
​
I use the Teksoft Fingertouch. After installing Gyrator2, it does both landscape and portrait, has 5 different keyboards, and the QWERTY full keyboard in landscape is what I use for SMS messages. The keys are just big enough to hit with your thumbs and I have Snailslug Touchresponse to give me haptic feedback whenever the screen is touched. I tried TouchPal, but the keys were just too small and it used the portrait keyboard even in landscape.
I really love the www.pocketcm.com keyboard, customizable and skinnable
@sebbes: Do you have a skin for pcm keyboard that fit in the HD in landscape mode (with a french layout ) ?
Anyone else got suggestions for good keyboard for "thumbboarding"? (ie with both thumbs). I think if done properly that's the best solution for text entry with the device, because you have a solid grip of the device with both hands, and the size of the screen makes the buttons big enough for thumb hits.
i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
tengo.net
tkalli said:
TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
​
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hm...that's strange. I installed Touchpal on my HD without any problems.
Are you sure you downloaded the Windows Mobile 6.1 version of Touchpal (not the 6.0 one)?
The only 2 issues I've had are:
- it doesn't stay as default after a soft-reset (though this is usually very quick to overcome as you can pop up the SIP menu and Touchpal is right there on the menu)
- as someone mentioned before, the landscape version isn't being displayed when the HD is on it's side...maybe a detection issue. The normal keyboard is displayed but it's still quite usable.
Ben
New version of TouchPal will support landscape mode. It should be out still ion this year.
In my opinion, the best keyboard on Touch HD is Tengo Thumb. Not the regular Tengo, but the Thumb version.
The QWERTY keys are zoned into 6 areas. As long as you press the correct area, it is unnecessary to accurate touch the precise location of the key. It is similar to the T9 version of the Compact QWERTY except you have fewer areas to worry about, therefore affording bigger hitting areas and requiring even less precision.
I had previously used the regular version, which gives a good regions size on my Athena, but that proves too small for HD. The aspect ratio of HD, being taller, also makes this keyboard a perfect input tool in portrait mode. On landscape it occupies just a little too much of the real estate though.
gnagis said:
i just wish my old workinghorse TENGO THUMB would work
tryed it and it did end up realy weird on the sccreen.... i have used manny onscreen keyboards... but nothing beats tengo thumb when it comes to writing fast!
tengo.net
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tengo Thumb works perfectly for me. No wierd behaviours noted yet.
resco keyboard suits me quite well. the only thing that lacks is push and hold function for scandic letters.
tkalli said:
TouchPal wouldn't install for me either.
Tried several times.
​
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is strange, I just download the latest V3.5 Touchpal install successful and it works very good in my HD
Some advice, please.
nin2thevoid said:
Hmm, what's so great about the iPhone keyboard? ...........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not an iphone fan (see my signature) but i have to recognise that, as much as I hated errors while fingertyping (no stylus allowed, and I've BIG fingers) at least, when you push the keyboard, you see the intended hit character in a "bubble" that is slighly offset of the key, so you actually SEE the letter close to your finger, not the corners of a grey square UNDER your finger, where in fact you can not read what is inside.
Has any of the proposed keboards have this feature?
I've read all the posts in this thread without much info on specific features.
Thanks for help.
Touchpal 3.5
Ive tried them all but I always come back to touchpal. Works great on my HD. Just wont stay default, but not a big problem. Multiple dictionaries, I Speak English and Spanish and is great with both dictionaries. Resize on the fly if the keyboard is too big. Most programs resize automatically. Easy to use with thumb, perfect for me. All keyboards are personal preference though.
does touchpal have romanian dictionary ? where can i get it from ?
thanks.

alternative onscreen keyboard

Hi,
does anyone know an alternative onscreen keyboard application (apart from TF3D).
To me it seems the X1 onscreen keyboard is pretty much unusable without the stylus.
Thx in advance,
Sinergy
I use the SPB keyboard, i prefer it to the blackstone keyboard purely on the basis that the blackstone doesn't mess up with the predictive text of my X1.
the SPB has feedback options with vibration/sound, supports many languages and the skin fits nicely with the menus etc
my 2 cents: (copied from the my post at the inxperia forums)
THE FREE:
-------------------------
HTC Keyboard (from Touch HD)
the free HTC keyboard package also installs a normal phone keyboard.
So it installs:
- QWERTY Compact (two letters per button, for normal use)
- QWERTY Full (like hardware keyboard, for landscape use)
- Phone Keypad (phone keyboard, landscape and normal)
The Compact and Full version switch as you go from landscape to vertical, but you can't use the compact in ladscape and vice versa. So Compact -> rotate screen -> automatically oges to Full QWERTY.
Quite nice actually.
Problems: A bit sluggish within Opera and breaks the volume-zoom keys in Opera.
TouchPal (below) is better:
THE BEST:
-------------------------
TouchPal:
Installs itself as default on startup (great). Everythings fluid, no bugs so far. Goes away nicely in Opera and after a landscape switch.
I noticed a small, but *very* important detail about TouchPal:
The leftmost (QAZ) and rightmost (PLM) buttons are a bit further away from the edge (so they are easier to hit with the recessed screen!). I tested both Touch HD Blackstone and TouchPal QWERTY. TouchPal has the better buttons, as they are easier to hit.
The TouchPal also has tabs with:
- 3 keyboards (phone, qwerty, qw-er-ty)
- 1 symbol board (which slides to the left and right, customizable)
- 1 number board
- 10 configurable text snippets, multilanguage fT9 input and
- a navigation/cut/copy/paste board, which is really handy.
So my vote is clearly for TouchPal (also looks better). No problems on X1 at all!!!
Problems: No landscape resizing, just black bars on the left and right (I think its okay). The 2on1 buttons (QW-ER-TY) are strange (you can't double tap, it works differently)
tldr;
Get the TouchPal software. It'll change your life!
THE TWEAKERS Keyboard:
-------------------------
Fingertouch PRO
Completely skinnable and you can make custom layouts (dvorak for example)... Very good, I bought it but now use TouchPal.
Links:
Cootek TouchPal: http://www.cootek.com/
Teksoft Fingertouch PRO: http://www.fingertouchpro.com/
Touch HD Blackstone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439
I'm using SPB too. Much better than stock.
thx
I'll give a try to both of them.
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
mcbyte_it said:
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
istnelane said:
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try disabling the animations: Options-> (slide the screen) -> "Disable advanced animations". Maybe it helps.
Honestly I don't know. I had to turn my X1 off every 2 days because of exams I had. But the TouchPal keyboard has so many benefits that I won't mind soft-resetting every once in a while. I mean it's the only QWERTY where I can actually touch the Q/P/A buttons with the recessed screen.
chongbh said:
Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take a look at FingerTouch, they also have a lite (free) version on their site. The video (I time-marked it) with the Phone keyboard is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhBMNr7iS8#t=47s
check out http://shapewriter.com - it's quite good if ur using two hands to type, works fairly well with one hand. Here's a vid of it in action on the Android => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPS2piSSRE
TenGO Thumb pretty good too for one-hand operation, but falls flat on it's face when trying to type in one or two numbers vs HTC Phone Pad.
Cliquick (http://www.cliquick.com) has nice large buttons, layout like HTC Phone Pad but larger, excellent querty landscape keyboard and "optimised" key layout, BUT lacks T9.... which is a pitty because this would've been the best with T9 for one-hand operation.
I tried TouchPal but found learning curve too steep. Plus it's too difficult to use with one hand, which I need to do so when standing in a bus.
EDIT: Have been thinking about FingerTouch, BUT needs two hands to type fast, so that's a bummer. I'd prefer ShapeWriter over it.
I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
Fingertouch has 5 keyboard layouts provided. At least 2 of them allow one-handed typing and pretty fast. It has its own T9 and also word completion.
I'm using Fingertouch Pro and allow further customisation, but unlike Fingertouch (which is free), the Pro version is paid software.
clumsythief said:
I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ameS ereh, I ustj an'tc eems ot ritew ightr.
Crzy! <--- my Touch HD keyboard "forgets" characters too..

HTC HD2 Keyboard

A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
Nothing will replace hard keyboard. TP2 is the best so far. Go youtube to review the HD2 virtual keyboard.
If you are fimiliar with TP2 keyboard, you will highly hate the HD2 keyboard. Even Swype or TouchPal Pro are not that perfect yet...
Spike15 said:
A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The keyboard is hit or miss, but if you did a poll on here, you'd get people mostly saying it's a hit!
I personally love it, but it did take me a while to get used to it. Also, going through the screen alignment process helps, as it gets the screen aligned to how you use it (as long as you do it in a natural manner, with your thumbs, and not using your finger as a stylus. Who uses their phone like that?? )
If you read the forums, you'll see there's some people that don't like the keyboard, but there's also a lot that originally didn't but have got over it. It needs a little practice, but I can type very fast on it now that I'm used to it.
Anyway, here's a couple of screenshots. Hope this has helped
I Didint wanna start a new topic, so i will borrow this one
I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
3kgt said:
I Didint wanna start a new topic, so i will borrow this one
I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure if this helps but just open a SMS, at the bottom you will see the symbol for your input. Tap it once and a small arrow appears to the right, now tap the symbol again but slightly to the right (ie/ tapping the arrow) and you will see QWERTY with an arrow allowing you to choose phone keypad or qwerty.
both arent bad and the predictive input is clever but i personally prefer Touchpal, i find it more responsive and fast (it keeps up with fast keystroke entry).
Thanks for the replay, i found the arrow after more searching in google! it was stupid of me that i didnt tap that! lol
i did tap the hole keyboard icon insted!
Now i can type much easyer
I used touchpro 1 before using HD2, still finding typing with hardware keyboard faster. Especially if you disable auto complete,word correction.
but I still love my HD2.
I have an energy rom. Would you happen to know how to switch back to the way the original keypad looked before the 1.8 client?
I enjoyed the X1's HW keyboard, but I must say, within a few days of using the HD2, I don't miss it.

Your choice of Keyboard?

Phone Keypad,
Compact QWERTY,
Full QWERTY, or
Swype?
Swype took me awhile to get used to, but it seems to be handy when i can't pay attention to the keyboard fully (driving and when watching something else)
Full keyboard is ok, but
I really prefer Phone Keypad.
I guess too many years spent with t9...
trying to switch to swype fully, though.
i love the full qwerty.
SWYPE! All the way.
Swype in landscape. Oh yes!
Swype
I'm slow at all of them! Used phone keypad forever, then swype on landscape,figured easier because bigger, not! Changed to small qwerty, fantastic! just get close to letter, poof, word appears!! love it!!
Full QWERTY since I mainly web browse. Swype isn't smart enough to know I don't want spaces in my website urls.. Also I don't want it to suggest correct spellings for urls..
As others have mentioned for web browsing, standard keyboard is great but othwerwise Swype is consistent and works well, Touchpal also very reliable and quite fast once you get the hang of it.
Tried Slideit, thought Swype better esp on our 4.3 in screens.
swype is great on portrait mode because our screens are so big, I actually never use swype in landscape
swype is impossible in landscape
Sogou, or full qwerty sometimes touchpal...
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
SlideIT all the way, as well in portrait as in landscape mode.
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
hi
hi whats the swype kepboard? i have big probs typing im constantly doubling up the buttons or typing the wrong one.
Chivalryyyy said:
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are a few fast shortcuts, check out vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l64Twt1qlVg&feature=related
its meant for the omnia but on the HD2, same thing. For something like an exclamation mark, just press the Z key and drag down to the spacebar then release.
Also holding they key is supposed to work but i find this feature hit and miss, it doesnt always work but not sure why.
dadu said:
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I liked the one where you could write anywhere. I prefer to not have the keyboard visuals taking up screen space
SWYPE! I love Swype. I've always been a hardware-qwerty guy. I tried the Swype beta on my Droid and loved it. I was on the fence about switching to the HD2, purely because of the lack of a keyboard...until I heard it had Swype. Then it was a done deal.
However, Swype is not great for web browsing and other things that require exact character combos that may not be words, without spaces and all that. I switch to full QWERTY for that.
Swype baby.
dadu said:
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5594168&postcount=1
Block Recognizer:
HKCR\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod\Default = 1
HKLM\Software\HTC\ezsip\SIPMenuEnableMSSIP\Default = 1
Lately I have been using Touchpal.
Starting to get the hang of it and think it will be a keeper.
​

Categories

Resources