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Changing the IMEI

Hi, I have been very happily using my XDA with a '3' SIM after unlocking it but as of this weekend, it stopped working. It will work with other network SIMs so I know the phone is fine. I called '3' but obviously they are not interested. Is it because of the IMEI? If so, I would like to find out how I can change it ... My radio was 4.21 so I downgraded to 3.23.00 and then tried XDA Manipulator but it does not show that option (flashes and dissappears) . I cannot seem to find Radio Stacks V4.06 or 4.10 anywhere ... any help much appreciated.
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How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
Reference your usage of the sim from 3, I cannot see it being an imei problem, as you know the xda is not 3 compatable so it will be logging you on through a 3rd party network as far as I know. If the imei was blocked it would not work with any operator here in uk. Does the 3 sim work in another phone.?

I found GERMAN Radio Stack from this forum. (REF:http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2185). The '3' network also uses O2 network. Have not tried '3' sim in another phone - will test tomorrow.[/b]

cruisin-thru said:
How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
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i have downgraded a few times, but i dont know if this method will work 4 u.
if i currently have a TMO stack, ill go to a ATT stack, then i can bak to an earlier TMO, or visa versa
i only tried this with ATTs and TMOs, never had the need to try other stacks...(or should i :twisted: )

It is possible that the phone has been blocked, I have had this problem with 2 phones that I bought as faulty, I repaired them only to find that the sellers had claimed on insurance then sold the knackered phone which had been blocked by the provider.

JUICEe - I am not brave enuff to go down that route given the dire warnings from this forum in moving from UK/Europe stacks to US ones.
crusing-thru - Given that XDA works perfectly ok with 02 SIM, and '3' SIM works fine in 3' phone, I believe its something about the '3' SIM/Network and not the phone that is preventing me using it in my XDA at this time.
Tx for the interest, hope you were able to downgrade using the German stack. It works fine with O2 SIM.

It is strange though that the sim was working fine then doesnt work in xda but still works in another phone. Have you tried an orange or t mobile sim in the phone? If you are positive that 3 uses O2 as a patch network then ignore this. Have you been to bootloader and inadvertently changed gsm to 900 only, if 3 uses an 1800 network this would explain it, if you havent been to bootloader then I have no idea and if as you said the people at 3 are not interested I would consider dumping them as a service provider.

"Hutchison 3G has agreed to share network facilities owned by UK operator mmO2 to ensure rapid time to market even before its own network is complete, with customers roaming between Hutchison's limited 3G network and mmO2's existing second generation network. Hutchison's right to let customers roam with at least one existing competitor's 2G network is part of the 3G license and enforceable by law."

3 have locked the SIM, must be in one of their phones or will not work, even though it uses O2 as a voice network. Seen this problem many times, and there is nothing you can do about it. Anyone who has made it work is just lucky, and 3 will get to you in the end.
Don't ask me why they do it as to me they are restricting their own business, cos if you use your own handset, you are likely to use it more. Just ask my girlfriend who just hates her nec 606 and hardly uses it!!

Hi,
Basically what happened was that O2 complained to '3'. People were getting the cheap tarriffs from '3' and using them in 2g handsets.
O2's opinion was those people 'should' be using O2 as their provider if they are just using the 2g voice part.
'3' realised that if this becomes wide spread, although they will still make a % off the voice call in profit (after paying O2 for using their 2g network), they wont be acustoming people to using any of the 3g functions.
Really they would be hindering the progression of users from 2g to 3g, which may end up costing them alot more ultimately.
In my opinion it was most likely O2 threatening to take action too.
Really their marketing stratedgy is to give out cheap voice calls, to get the 3 phone in your hand... then they bombard u with offers to try video calls etc etc eventually 'in theory' u get used to these services.. same old story.
I havnt monitored the message, but from what i can tell they are using one of two things to stop the phones working:
1) capability messages from the phone restricting the phone from completing authentification because it isnt '3g' capable. That could be done as part of the auth process, raising the required capability to 3g.
2) Using the SAT (sim application toolkit) capability to talk to the USIM and dissable it.
Although SAT and USIM are not actually compatible, you can talk to a USIM through a SAT phone with limited functions.
If they're using (1) your **** outta luck really. But if that were the case you would expect everyone to be knocked out within the space of a month max (when they update the hlr records). Did you just get your 3 card?
If its 2.. you may be able to try an OLD handset that isnt SAT capable, just to prove the point.
I'm leaning towards (2) because i do know that on many nokia's if u type a number as soon as you boot up the phone it will work.
Also if u leave a digit on the screen.. say 0 as soon as u end that call it will still work when u dial the next number.
Clear the digit and not type one quick enough and you gotta reboot before it'll work again.
Sounds like the nokia firmware blocks access to the sim for other processes, in anticipation of reading the KC and doing an auth when u make the call.
Toxic.

Unable to make or receive calls

I wonder if anyone can help with a fault on my M3100. So far I've searched this website for answers with no luck. I have Hard Reset the phone, upgraded the Radio, all without any luck.
About 6 days ago my M3100 suddenly stopped being able to make or receive calls. Whenever I try to dial out the call drops out before being established, and if I try to call in to the phone the caller receives a series of beeps.
At first it seems to be a SIM problem, but the Vodaphone SIM is fine in any other phone. If I put my Orange SIM in the phone it just comes up as "No Service".
I'm at the end of the line in what to do and it doesn't seems to make any sense.
Any comments, suggestions, advice or help very much appreciated.
..... Further symptom details:
I can send and receive text message with my Vodaphone SIM installed and access WiFi and GPRS networks. Orange SIM won't connect at all! Both SIMS work fine in a standard phone ! Only clue I can think of here is that the Vodaphone SIM is UMPTS and GSM where the Orange is GSM only. The spare phone I tested them in was GSM only.
Could the GSM part of the M3100 be stuffed ?
I'm stumped for the time being!! It doesn't seem to make any logical sense. Maybe any of you who know the in's and out's of how the device communicates might find some clues in that...
Heeeeelp !

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I've just added a few more details on the symtoms.. maybe the few extra clues might yeild some thoughts from someone !

Have you checked the band selection in Settings > Phone?
Is it possible that the phone could have become blacklisted? How long have you had it? How did you buy it? (This is probably NOT it, since the text still works.)
Have you tried a tweaker to enable HSPDA?

Had the phone for over 12 months so Blacklisted shouldn't be the issue. I've tried all the band selections including Auto but no luck.
Haven't tried the Tweaker... do you have any details on that...
Up until it suddenly stopped working it worked on all networks..
Another possible clue is that I was "Roaming" in France for a month and it was there that I made my last successful call. I have UK SIMS... I have an Australian SIM which I'll try now to see if that makes any difference..

Tried an Australian SIM roaming in the UK ! The service connects on two available networks,Vodaphone and TMobile but not on Orange and O2 (like with the Orange UK SIM). Same fault as the before with the networks it will connect to.
This seems to eliminate the SIM or Network being the fault and isolate the fault to the Device...

probably not the issues, but worth a try?
I live in a very strong 3G + HSPDA ares, but cant make or recieve anycalls tho texts work on T-mobile, i need to have my phone in 2G mode, and calls work fine???
If i leave my house and go a few miles 3G works as it should able to call and recieve etc!

Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!

I have had very similar problems to this.
Please see my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325149
I do think this is some sort of network problem as after I posted the issues in the thread above, I left home and travelled about 6 miles and the signal came back and the phone worked fine.
Today, I have been able to make and receice calls but all of a sudden I got cut off from a call then could not make or receive calls (incoming goes straight to voicemail).
I can however use my Orange SIM without problem and both Vodafone and Orange SIMs work fine in other phones.

stevegardner said:
Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!
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im running schaps 3.57a rom and in my Comm Manager, its at the bottom on his 12 button one, where you can turn on/off, wlan, bt, flightmode, direct push etc

stevegardner said:
Can't seem to work out how to force the phone onto 2G or 3G ... if anyone can advise I'll give that a try!
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You can also go into Settings > Phone > Band.
If the band tab does not appear (to the right of the network tab), then you may need to do a registry tweak.
From the very helpful wiki:
Enable/Disable GSM/UMTS Band Selection
Cingular kindly disables anything useful about the network on the 8525. To enable the Band Selection Tab on your Phone settings page, set the following:
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000001
To disable, simply clear the value to 0:
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:00000000
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Have travelled outside England again this week and... well the phone works fine roaming on my UK Vodaphone SIM. Seems very ODD.. only thing I can put any logic to is a problem with the GSM part of the phone. It's working here in Stockholm on the 3G network no problem.
Anyone advise how I force the phone to be on GSM and 3G so I can test this theory. The BAND settings under SETTINGS>PHONE don't seem to give you this control over how it connects..

Hey i got the same problem anyone solved it yet!

Hi Sunnyb1
Since my last post I returned to England where the phone was useless. No SIM cards would work, some would not register at all but my Vodaphone SIM seemed to register but as before it would not receive calls, nor could I make calls out.
Now I'm in Australia with an Australian SIM card. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL !!
The phone works just fine !!
It's a mystery indeed...
Without any knowledge of the ins & Outs of how a SIM card / Network / and the phone work together it's impossible for me to arrive at any conclusive logic.
Hopefully someone might stand up to the plate and offer some explanation !
Anyone from HTC out there ??????
Steve

stevegardner said:
Hi Sunnyb1
Since my last post I returned to England where the phone was useless. No SIM cards would work, some would not register at all but my Vodaphone SIM seemed to register but as before it would not receive calls, nor could I make calls out.
Now I'm in Australia with an Australian SIM card. NO PROBLEMS AT ALL !!
The phone works just fine !!
It's a mystery indeed...
Without any knowledge of the ins & Outs of how a SIM card / Network / and the phone work together it's impossible for me to arrive at any conclusive logic.
Hopefully someone might stand up to the plate and offer some explanation !
Anyone from HTC out there ??????
Steve
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I got the phone and it was working perfectly on Orange then i tried unlocking it and ever since it has come up with "NO Service" like you everytime i put a Orange Sim in the phone it does not show up.. but when i put a Vodafone sim it works perfectly i tried reflashing the radio's many times

I unlocked this particular phone 6months before this problem showed up so I don't think the Unlock on it's own is the cause. What's particularly baffling is that a SIM may not work with the phone in one country.. but in another it works fine.

..... another country that is !

Hey Steve i have found out what the problem is after hours of research
I found this of another website
Orange & O2:
If you place an active orange or
O2 sim into a blacklisted handset you
phone will not show any signal strength
at all! If the handset is a Nokia then a
"SIM card registration failed" message
will also be displayed. If your handset is an
Ericsson then an "Invalid Mobile" message
will be displayed. For most other manufacturers
the handset will simply show no signal!
Vodafone & T-Mobile
If you place an active Vodafone or T-Mobile sim into a blacklisted handset, the phone will appear to function perfectly UNTIL you try to make an outgoing call. When you try to call out from the handset you will hear a sequence of beeps and then the call will be dropped!!
........
This means the handset you got is stolen or someone has blacklisted it ... i got mine of EBAY! and reading that i figured that it is stolen
It wont work in the UK but it will work everywhere else in the world

Mmmm... that's interesting Sunnyb1. If my phone is blacklisted then happened in JULY this year which was 8 months after I bought the phone. I bought the phone legit .
Can anyone advise what the "Blacklisting" process is.. I assume its done by using the IMEI number.
Who is the rightful owner of a handset and can any phone be blacklisted by anyone, and possibly by mistake ?
Would unlocking the phone from Orange cause a phone to be blacklisted ??
How can you "Un-blacklist" a phone.

Answered my own question here......
This website seems to have the answers
http://www.unlockme.co.uk/blacklist.html

OK... still on this thread. Can anyone advise how you find out which network in the UK has blocked your an IMEI number. I gather any of the UK networks can block any IMEI and it's not unknown for errors to be made. But only the network that blocks the IMEI can Unblock it.
Thought I'd post this before waiting forever for some call centre dimwit to give me the runaround.
Thanks...

Problem connecting to Vodafone on SPV M3100

Firstly, hello everyone.
I recently bought the Orange SPV M3100 on eBay, and can not for the life of me get it to connect to Vodafone with my contract SIM.
So far I have:
-Sim unlocked and superCID'd the phone.
-Installed WM6 (via CUSTEL).
-Tried 3 different Radio versions.
-Attempted to install Vodafones official update (which failed for reasons unknown).
-Played around with just about all network settings.
Basically, the device acts as if it's trying to connect to the network, but doesn't (PC speakers pick up inteference etc).
With automatic network selection it just doesn't do anything.
With manual network selection it gives all four big UK providers (allowing for signal - I live in the North York Moors) including Vodafone, but won't connect to any of them.
If I click 'set networks' I get a HUGE list of providers. Vodafone UK (if it appears at all, for some reason O2 and TMobile seem to appear on the list more often) is nearly always unchecked at the bottom. Checking it doesn't fix the problem. When I go back there later it has sometimes lost that setting and Vodafone is unchecked at the bottom again.
I should probably mention that any setting I change here results in a 2 minute "Sending new settings to the network", and on a couple of occasions has caused it to crash.
If I go onto band settings, originally they were both set to auto. Infact, I've just gone onto it as I type, and they have gone back to auto. Before it had got stuck on GSM/UMTS band type 'GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)' (gave an error message unable to change band etc if I tried to change it to anything else). I cannot change the network type or GSM band otherwise without the same error message appearing.
So anyway, as you can see I've gone through a lot and read a lot unlike your typical n00b, and my prospects with this new phone are bleak.
Can anyone help me or suggest anything else that could get this phone onto Vodafone?
I have a worrying thought that this phone could have originally been half-inched (the eBay seller seemed a tad on the dodgy side), been reported, and is now serial-blocked from UK networks, if that's possible?
[edit] I don't know if they are or can be serial blocked, but in which case, assuming you trust and sympathise with my story, is it possible to hack & change the serial number?

Sounds possible that its been blocked. Yes there is a way but you probably won't find any help on this site to do it as it is illegal. Thats not to say you can't search the site, you may find something that may help... Search is your friend...
Cheers...

Yeah reading into the problem reveals a possible 'IMEI' block.
Time to contact the ebay seller I think.

Have spotted an obvious hole in my theory:
The thing came in it's original box (s/n sticker confirmed) with all manuals and accessories.
So back to original problems; is there anything else I have missed?
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Phone is unblocked according to http://www.amta.org.au/default.asp?Page=405.
So unless they're wrong, why can't I connect to Vodafone and what else can I try?

did you try *#06# on the phone to be sure the S/N on the stickers and phone is the same as the actual phone S/N?

Yes, they are.
Would Vodafone be of any help on this issue?

Depends if they supply that model of phone.
Do you have a network configurator app cooked into the rom you are using or are you using a stock rom?
Might be an idea to look for a network configurator cab if you're using the stock rom and see if that helps. Also if you are using a stock rom, and its not setup for vodaphone, it MAY (don't quote me on this) be affecting the network settings and making it incompatable with the carrier you want.
Just a thought...
I'd also try to run the sim unlock app again, just remember it has to be the SPL that was supplied with the sim/cid unlock tool. Make sure you install Hard SPL V7 back after checking this...

vodaphone will help you if you ring them up using a the sim card in a working phone and ask them to check if its imei is blocked, they do it totaly free of charge.. had to do this with a viewty i bought from a work buddy shorty before he forgot to tell me he did not pay the contract bill and t-mobile blocked it. well annoyed, but they told me it was reported Lost or stolen.
found a few places on the net that offer a check for £10 sod em lol
luckly got me cash back selling it for parts hehe

What a bloody carry on!
Vodafone told me it was blacklisted; reported stolen.
The eBay member is highly upset at being called a theif and very convincingly tells me otherwise (I'm 90% sure I can believe his story, and feel bad for my accusation).
Orange (of whom I'm not even a customer) then tell me "I'm sorry it's blacklisted for an unknown reason ... <click-click> ... there you go sir I've removed it from the blacklist!"
Well, if it starts working again in the next 48 hours I couldn't give a monkeys what's gone on. I just want the bugger to work!

the only reason that a phone would be blocked is if it was reported.......have you tried another sim from o2 or orange etc.
the question has been asked before about imei changing and as you know its illegal,but can be done so if all else fails search elsewhere,not here, i would suggest that unblocking a phone is never likely to be an achievable goal.the networks are not known for their magninimity

htc elf network connection problem in turkey

please can anybody help me. i bought one htc elf in dubai and i went then to turkey am trying to make it work in turkey but in vain. it is always searching for network and not finding anything.

have you tried flashing a different radio? Or, have you go into phone settings and tried to select a network manually?

i couldn't upgrade my radio version it is always arriving 79%, stopping and giving error.

Whats the error, make sure to post as much information as possible, people wold be able to help better then.
Have you checked the error codes in the ROM section?
Stu

no actually am sorry but i did not know about that section before. so it is error 270.

thanks actually i found that error solution but nothing changed still my phone is searching for network in vain. even am trying to find a network manually it is writing cannot read settings from the network try viewing settings later or disconnect data connection and try again.

where did you buy the phone from in dubai? Was it from a market etc or a store? It could be blacklisted in turkey? Just thinking that could be a possibility.

i bought from jumbo electronics in dubai it is a distributer of consumer electronics. so what can we do if it is blacklisted.

i doubt it would be blacklisted if from a shop. If it is blacklisted, theres pretty much nothing you can do about it, apart from change the imei - which may well be illegal, i know it is here in the UK.

mm is there any way to change the imei like software.

for that, i would not help. you can however search forums to see if you can find anything for it.
google checkmend as well, that tells if the phone is blacklisted etc, but maybe only for us and uk, not sure. costs $2.99 USD though.

actually there is something strange i have one sim card from UAE, when i use it the signal of network is coming and when i put any sim in Turkey no signal is coming. do you think it is blacklisted?

the turkey sim may not be registered? I wouldn't be able to say if it is blacklisted - i'm still learning these phones too

About IMEI
If you bring a cell phone from out of Turkey you need to register it in cell shop called like "Turkcell Extra".
You need your phone and your passport. The personal'll look at the dates in your passport and check the invoice date in shop after he/she will register your phone to Turkey Network. after a copule of days you can use it complately...

to my knowledge it may be because of the the frequency of the signal u r receiving in ur country. elf and elfin are triband phones.. they dont have a frequency range of 850 Mhz .. may be ur provider is giving the signal in that frequency.. try with gsm sim of other service provider may be it will help u...

thanks alot but i think my phone now is blacklisted cause as i remember i came to turkey before long time and it was working but now it is not anymore even i tried different sim cards like vodafone and turkcell but in vain. i have other phone am using now and i registered it on my passport it is working but i want to use my elf actually i dont wanna use other phone cause i love that phone that is all.

first unlock your device, then install the newest radio.

I have lost all network functions!!

Hi, I have lost all network functions. E.g. cannot send/receieve calls/sms. Everything else is fine. I have wiped all data and done a factory reset and put firmware jh1 and also jd1. No difference. The phone isn't stolen. Multiple sims work in other phones but not this one. What has happened? What can I do? I've been trying to get my phone working all day. PLEASE HELP!! If I try and get my balance I get a network error. If I try calling it beeps and hangs up. All sms messages will not be delivered and I will get a message 10 seconds later saying not delivered. Searching for a network I get 'unable to search networks during data service activated' and it offers to turn off the data service. I'm not sure if this is related.
AGAIN! PLEASE PLEASE help if you can. It might sound stupid or simple but any advice or help is appreciated. Basically I have a phone that cannot be used as a phone!! I beg you!! If you know something to fix this, let me know!!

This may sound a bit foolish but hope u do not have airplane mode activated.
Also did you drop the fone or it got wet or something like that?

I think u lost ur IMEI nuumber!without this number u can't call or internet.
did u used debug only and other option ander debug only in Odine?
controal ur IMEI number if it is 000000
this meen u lost ur IMEI number.
in samdroid.net ther is a thred over hoe to repier ur IMEI.
her is the page "forum.samdroid.net/f28/complete-imei-restore-how-1817"
i think u can find help ther.

Similar problem with 3 (Three) branded handset...
I got a Spica (Galaxy Portal) from ebay which seems to have been mis-flashed (is that a word?!) and wouldn't boot. I installed a new 'official' Samsung firmware and all seemed fine except that I couldn't connect to the '3' network. It is a '3' branded handset, I have a '3' SIM and am in a good 3G signal area. If I set it to only use 2G networks then it will connect to Orange as it's fallback 2G network and I can connect to Internet through GPRS/EDGE. However, I have realised that I cannot make/receive calls/texts! I can purchase items from the Market too.
I have tried various 'official' ROMs but to no avail.
The SIM works fine in my HTC TD2.
I'm unable to check the IMEI number now as I'm not at home, but could this be the reason for the problems or have I done something by flashing it with a generic Sammy ROM and not a '3' specific one (I know how '3' can be a bit strange)?
All ideas/suggestions gratefully received!!

to check ur IMEI just tyep *#06# in dial pad

happened to me i solved it by installing cyanogen 6.1.1 alpha 8.2