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dissassemble the wizard

I want to dissassemble my wizard for painting. (yes i really do). Has anyone taken it apart yet, or will I be the first?

people have taken it apart.. where's that thread, hmmm...
Ah, yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31755
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6298030&postcount=27
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=377474
Not too much info, but there you go. If you do take yours apart, take lots of pictures - you'll be an instant hero

Most paints will wear off very quickly and maybe make it look a bit unsightly, do you have a particular paint in mind?
And yes - please take many pics and post back with details of the procedure.

Not necessarily...
If you use a lacquer based paint - it will "etch" itself into the plastic. IF you use enamel - yes, it will wear off quickly and most likely be "unsightly".
Make sure you steel wool it first to rough it up and sand between coats. When you are satisfied with the look - sand once again with very fine paper - like 600 grit or finer - then - spray with a couple of coats of clear. It will look great!
I use to run a guitar shop - building repairing and refinishing. This will take some time - but it will look great.
Shep

Sounds good.
Will be interested to see the results when fp has finished it.

Interested too

NO NO NO NO
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again. I HIGHLY recommend against this, you'll regret it.

Echilon, sorry to hear that mate...
i fink the standard silver face looks decent...(MDA)

Thing is... how did you take it apart? I mean without injuring the plastics.

Echilon said:
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?

Hi Guys ,
I dissassemble my wizard tody ,I will post some pictures ,But I recommend not to do it ,as said (it will never the same again)
and if you insist to do it (THEN DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK)
I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)

ZeBoxx said:
Echilon said:
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?
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It didn't fit back together properly and the battery cover used to hang half off. Aswell as that, the paint chipped eventually, but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office

Echilon said:
but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office
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LoL

Hmm interesting, I am jsut researching paints, does seem a laquer is the way to go. Guys who have taken it apart, your saying "its never the same again" Why, is there glue? Any experiance most welcome, I've built a mac tibook from 9 different donors and I am pretty good with my torx set, the only thing i hate is glue....

balo said:
I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)
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did you do anything special or cram something to hold the plastic back in place?
I'm just getting ready to tear it apart just to fix this issue and any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Mc

I've repaired about 80 remote controls, and I highly suspect that most of the "never the same again" is related to wrangled plastic when trying to undo the 'click' system. If you have a ( Edit: http://www.noordhollandinbouw.nl/images/bankschroef.jpg ) and a very thin screw driver, these are pretty easy to open up without any wrangling/cracking. The other issue is paint getting inbetween seams - the device has to fit back together, so you need to keep the paint clear of those %)
Other than that, I really see no reason why it wouldn't be perfectly fitting back together with the only difference being the paintjob.
Maybe one of the two guys who mentioned this can give exact details?

Hi guys,
Actually when I said (it will never the same again) I did not mean it is impossible mission, but it need a high caution and steady hand (No glued parts) ,don’t try to open it hardly (it might break) with all that a scratch here or there will happened ,but still if any of you opened it safely and get it painted then everything will be fine.
About the stylus, yes I put 2 pieces of plastic between the cover and the stylus black encasement.
Thanks

Balo, can you explain how you unclipped the plastic cover. Is there a specific side to start on? How did you lever the part apart - finger nails or small screw driver? As much detail please as I want fix my stylus.

Was it hard to take of the faceplate? I need a new faceplate put on my 8125. Can you advise? Thanks!

so no pictures yet of the paintjob?

Pimp my Wizard

Hi folks, in the past few weeks I slowly tried to pimp my Wizard and this is the outcome
First I took the whole think apart, then I sanded the paint and metall on the front cover off, and painted the whole thinkg as you can see black with car-paint . Yes, there are still a few things that didnt went that well, like on the back the breaking line between the part left free around the camera and the black surface around is not that clear,and I am affraid i took a little bit too much paint (in total around 6-7 layers). I guess this happend during the time the paint dryied. But all in all I think I did not a bad job...
And the Wizard only looks that great cause of zoki's fantastic ROM!

sure looks sweet!
Thanks for the tip, I Think I might do that to mine.

Thanks, if you have any questions, i would be happy to help .

niiiceeeee.. did you sand the thing before paint? there is a similar paint job.. i think it is called the 'white wizard'. very nice too

I think I'll paint mine a litle less bright, I mean your shade of black is like piano black. Maybe I'll paint it Black Dim.
Do I really need to sand it all?
How did you do it, cause mine's got some scratches and stuff...

Hyyy
WOW dude ur wizard is rocking
i wanna do that to mine but i have a couple of questions
can u explain step by step which screws and how to open up the wizard coz im a complete noob
also wat knda paint was it water based or oil based was it spray paint or brush painting and also everything else thanx man
again great foneeeee
one more hting i looked at the pictures and u have the power amera button etc silver but originally on mone they are black how did u get them to be like that
thanx again

for the manual... try here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/

yeah, i think it also looks great, althougth... nope, i like it
@xusso, and mony114
I thinks depends which parts you want to paint, i wanted to paint the whole Wizard black, exept the buttons, and the circle around the camera as you can see. execpt for those parts, i sanded all other parts.
The sanding was quite easy (althought took some time and patience) exept for the front cover of the cellphone, it is not paint but kind of a metal surface around 0.2 mm think but beneath it is also plastic. Yes, i also sanded this one, but this was a lot of trouble, cause some places of this part are thin and it is dangerous to break them. But i think this is defenitly worth to sand as well.
Around the screen, there is a real mettal grid, this one i didnt and i think you also shouldnt sand. (in my first attempt to paint the Wizard, i left this part out, but afterwards I look in my opinion not so good, so i also painted it).
For the sanding of the plastic parts, i took 220-sand paper, and for the metallic surface on the front cover, i first went with a 100-sand paper over it and finished it off with the 220.
When I finished sanding all the parts i wanted to paint, I put stich over all the places and buttons i didnt wanted to paint black. (altought they also got some paint, it was not so grave, cause with a hard plastic card or screwdriver you can screch (in genearl) the coulor off again).
For painting (spay paint!) I took 'Black Glossy Rallye-Lack'. When you paint it, do it out in the open and for christ sake, take some protecion to cover your mouth!!! I didnt and I can tell you, it is totally not worth no to do. Hours afterwards I still had the bitter taste of lack in my mouth. (not mentioning the healh-danger).
I painted around 5-6 (kind of thin) layers. After every layer wait long enough untill the paint is dry. (I waited around 1 hour). After the last layer I let the parts dry over night for the paint to fully get dry. (it is worth it, otherwise you end up with fingerprints or other nasty stuff sticking on the paint).
et voila when you put i back togheter again dont forget to connect the soundboxes on the side or the keyboard like I did otherwise you have to disassamble the Wizard again .
I hope my small instruction help you further, if u still have any questions i am glad to help...
ps.: can u also post some images when u are finished, I would like to see how others paint their Wizard...

That was a great tutorial, thanks again!
I'll post my pics when I'm done with mine...
Maybe I paint it ...Pink!

2 Tips i thought of today at lunch!

Now i am sure that people have thought about this in the past but i searched the interwebs and have not seen anyone actually post this. I decided to spend my lunch time putting my G1 under the knife.
First of all. I am not responsible in any way for whatever YOU (the end user) does to your phone. Im not just a ass hat wanting people to break they're phones, but do this at your own risk.
now.
anyone that has ever been unable to hear the conversation normally (with your phone at your ear no speakerphone) might be able to benefit from this.
If you remember the 2g iphone trick of making the speakers louder this is essentially the same thing. get yourself a paper clip and bend one of the sides out so you have a poker. clean all the ear gungle out. then from the far left of the ear piece poke GENTLY through then sorta dig it out so you dont leave pieces behind. in the center of the hole you will run into a more solid piece leave it alone when you hit it. then you can repeat from just a touch left of the LED.
I did this and went outside my building (i work right next to a major freeway) for the first time i was able to hear my call VERY clearly. I was very excited.
okay now for the second tip.
This one is pretty useful for people who put the phone to their left ear. reason being is (at least for me) my finger always finds a way to leave prints on the camera cover.
simple fix.
take the battery cover off and use the rounded part of the paper clip you may have used earlier. get a square of Toilet paper and put a little force onto the camera cover from the INSIDE OF THE BATTERY COVER.
You will notice on the front that you can use your fingernail to peel the piece off.
The pictures i will add are at 1mp so most people can see them in full size on their monitors without having to zoom out/in or whatever.
once again. use at your own risk. let me know what you think!
The first two are with the cover on, and the second two are without.

Uhm I think you posted the wrong pictures or something because that is def. not a G1 haha.

crpercodani said:
Uhm I think you posted the wrong pictures or something because that is def. not a G1 haha.
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Actually, those are pictures demonstrating the difference with the camera cover on and off

not really worth it unless you got extra time and my lunch time is not... juss plain but yea nicce lil mods might try them out and post my results
umm nice system btw

Ohhh I see. I didn't read in your post that you were adding pictures to compare the difference, but geez it sure does make one. What about protection though? won't the lens be exposed?

crpercodani said:
Ohhh I see. I didn't read in your post that you were adding pictures to compare the difference, but geez it sure does make one. What about protection though? won't the lens be exposed?
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the camera eye has another cover over it. ive been using it this way now for a few days. doesnt seem all that more exposed.

That extra cover on the camera broke on my G1 a couple months ago. There's only one problem with this idea. If the back cover gets scratched it's pretty cheap to replace, if the camera lens gets scratched it's not so cheap.

Nice Fireberds btw. Looks like you keep your equipment clean. I have a similar playground here at the office

My little Review... and experienced (Mate-Case)

Dear all,
I have been using LEO for few months now and really happy about it. Since this is my first-Extra large screen phone (my previous phone is Diamond2), I very worry about how to handle this phone. I've read some user have drop their phone and braking the screen mirror which really look bad.
Also in my country's forum also have talke about this accident and I have learn that t replace the mirror screen will cost them about 130-140 US dollar (when converted from my Home currency) and extra 20-30 US dollar for edge's housing.
On the time I bourght my LEO, the shop that sale me also give me a Case-Mate for free. My first impression about this case is look very promissed for protect this device because it made from Hard-rubber. the only negative point for this case is installing!! since is made from hard-rubber, it's really hard to install and remove it.
At first, I really don't feel like to install it because I don't want to make scratch on my LEO. However, when I thought about broken front glass. it's better to install it. I have using Case-Mate from the fist day until now and all I can said it's seem to protect my device as promise (I have droped my LEO once, from the car's seat to the floor which it's not too high).
For all reader, you may feel that this case is too good to be true which is YES!.... In addition, I also have a bad point of this case too! As I mention before. This Case-Mate is made from Hard-rubber. When I remove and reinstall it often (yes! you need to remove this case in order to remove the back cover when need to reset or remove battary), this case can give scratch on the hard-edge of your device. As you can see it on my photos. Also once you intalled this case. it's give you a little density to the phone and t will not fit to the standard bag.
It's took me more then 2 weeks to find a bag that fit with my LEO+Case-mate. Finally! I've found that "Golla" bag (as seen in photo) is allow me to fit my device and also it have a nice design's bad too.
In Summarize, even the Case-mate can scratch your device, but in my opinion... it worth that can give me an extra bit of protection. even my LEO's body may have scratch but it can be easy replace at service center with litte cost. On my other devices that I previous used, I often change my phone body once in every 2 -3 years...
So I hope that my little review can give you a clear picture of my case and again! Sorry for my english if everything I wrote does make sence at all.

Awesome review. and awesome pictures. thank you.
do you think putting electrical tape could of prevented those scratches or will it eat right through the tape as well?
and what color was that casemate? because their black comes very close to their gray.. do you have the original box that says what it was? thanks again.

lemonspeakers said:
Awesome review. and awesome pictures. thank you.
do you think putting electrical tape could of prevented those scratches or will it eat right through the tape as well?
and what color was that casemate? because their black comes very close to their gray.. do you have the original box that says what it was? thanks again.
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Thank you for your comment!
My Case-mate is black colour as it said on the box, So it same colour as LEO. Sorry that I don't have picture of the case-mate box since I throw it always.. Also about electrical tape, it's a good idea too but I don't think you can't fit the case-mate once you use the tape.. because it really almost 100% fit wit LEO.

Nice review mate. I got one of these as well - a few months ago - and it has saved the (fragile I reckon) corners of my phone a few times. As long as you are careful when you remove it it's a cool case.
Cheers

nice review. im actually using in iphone leather case , i had to make a we mod so that it would shut, but it does the job and it goes on my belt. i found it so

open-air tomorrow.. need a protection for my hd2, and now just saw this, and i like that golla bag, maybe i go get one today, looks perfect for concerts (it just needs to be protectet in my pocket, i dont record vids on concerts T.T xD)

...... my review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642714

NightFire123 said:
...... my review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642714
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thank for sharing your review, it's a very nice review you have.

I did a carbon-look back cover :D

So i did this with 3m 1080 scotchprint carbon series and with nail scissors cutting it from 10x20cm took a while, about 2 hours to get it look nice i also cut a piece for the home button which took awhile too to get it fit perfectly!
to make this thread not so useless, recommend or post pictures of your customized gs2
anyway, what do you think ?

Looks excellent mate, would love a tutorial wouldn't mind that look myself.

Very nice...
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Nice, I have a Samsung mesh case on mine which would cover that off

Does it say 0.8 MP?

That looks really nice, shame your not selling them

Its 0.8 because is on mirror ( 0.8 | 8.0 )

cost of this project was about 10-20 bucks. really, its not that difficult to make, just needs patience and good light. that is the first one i've ever made!
@itehappy most definitely hope its not a 0.8mp unit anyway nice to see people here from i8910 community!

Thanks for the prompt... Just ordered a sheet of 1200 x 300 for under $AUS 10 .
What did you cut it with? Just a normal sharp knife/razor blade? Any tips on cutting the corners, makig the holes, putting the sides and corners on etc???
I know it doesn't require a huge 20 page instruction book but if you could provide some tips or suggestions I think that would be great... Unless you plan on selling them then I suggest not to give the tips
Edit: Just realised you only did the back cover and not the edges... Maybe I will report back when I finally get my sheet and start cutting.

Nice! Tutorial would be appreciated!

When I read the thread title I imagined it would look tacky, but it actually looks really good

Nice. If you want to make some to sell I will buy.

I have a Silver one and you buy them online... o.o

looks great dude, what's the texture of the tape like though? The phone is slippy enough with the stock cover, with smooth tape it must be worse!

i want this too! Looks very nice!
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+1 for you making them and selling them. (I don't have the patience)

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looks great dude, what's the texture of the tape like though? The phone is slippy enough with the stock cover, with smooth tape it must be worse!
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It's actually textured, the "weave" is bumpy, raised a few cm, provides a bit of a rough, oil free surface without being uncomfortable. And you can do a fun DJ scratching imitation if you run your fingernail over it quickly.
I've been using it (they call it 3M Dynoc in North America) on the back of my SGS1 for over a year now, and on the back of my Tab 7" for nearly as long.
I couldn't be arsed to cut my own, so I bought mine pre-cut from PhantomSkinz (Skinomi also sells a very similar "skin"). The phone kit costs ~$25 before coupon, and it covers the entire back, the sides, and even comes with a wet-apply screen protector.
It's dead easy to apply, though the edges take a bit of practice...but if you screw up, just lift it up and try again.
It's durable as hell, the SGS1 has one minor, nearly invisible scratch in it after a year of abuse in my pocket, in my motorcycle jacket or tank bag, dirty tables, etc. They look far more "high tech" than the funky designs Samsung used on the back of those devices, especially the Tab.
Occasionally, I'd catch the bottom edge of the tape on the SGS with my fingernail when removing the battery cover and it'll lift a bit. Apply some heat and it goes right back into shape.
Little trick with the rough feel on the edges...heat it (desk lamp or hair dryer both work well) and run your fingernail over the edge...this thins it, making it much smoother.
I just placed an order with Skinomi for both a SGS2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 "carbon" kit. On the SGS2, I'm thinking about leaving the battery cover naked since it's cheap to replace and already textured, and just using the carbon on the chin and sides. The chin on mine is starting to show some friction wear along the edge closest to the battery cover, and the sides get slippery as a bar of soap.

pbrown77 said:
Thanks for the prompt... Just ordered a sheet of 1200 x 300 for under $AUS 10 .
What did you cut it with? Just a normal sharp knife/razor blade? Any tips on cutting the corners, makig the holes, putting the sides and corners on etc???
I know it doesn't require a huge 20 page instruction book but if you could provide some tips or suggestions I think that would be great... Unless you plan on selling them then I suggest not to give the tips
Edit: Just realised you only did the back cover and not the edges... Maybe I will report back when I finally get my sheet and start cutting.
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wait wait whaaat? 1200x300 for $10 dollars??!? is it 3M 1080 series or 3M Di-noc?
i cut all this with little scissors, about the length of a palm, maybe just a bit more. corners wont need any special stuff, just a hair dryer to get it a little more flexible. ONE THING, when i bought the carbon, I tought that i'll just bend anything which comes over the edge, to backside of the plate. well its not that easy. gs2 cover is so precisely cut that it doesnt allow any kind of extra stuff under the cover, so you just need to cut it little bit at a time, then try it, and cut a bit more and try, untill it fits properly. this will take most of the installation time. just be careful not to cut too much! same goes for the camera hole. very carefully and take the time it needs, even if there is 0.1mm too much, the camera wont fit properly. not difficult, but takes time. a hour atleast.
meh, im a nice guy, i'll give all the tips needed
@viva.fidel
the surface of the new 3M 1080 series has more rubbery feel than the Di-noc (what skinomi uses) and there is seriously good grip! Doesn't feel sticky, but still offers awesome grip believe me! maybe because of the carbon texture i dont know but has good grip for sure!
sorry if theres typos, wrote whole message with GS2 in PORTRAIT mode

Hi, If you were to sell any, I would buy one, It look really nice

ignore now!