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Magician is released in Germany

Checked today the T-Mobile website in Germany and found, that you're able to buy an Magician device (called MDA Compact)
Price is about 200 Euro with 24 month contract...
Check
http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/1,4855,2963-_3187-0-1-0,00.html
Stefan

anyone really got the device?

waiting for T-mobile to call to get mine....
Hi!
I have already ordered the MDA compact at the local T-online Shop in Weil am Rhein (D) 'caus I live nearby in Basle (CH). Although online it seems available, they are still awaiting delivery :?.
Anynone knows when they actually get to the stores? The shop is getting crazy with me I think, I call almost every 2-3 days to know some news when its coming, he he he. :lol:
Cheers
Rainer

hi,
I just received mine from t-mobile Germany yesterday.
It looks great. It's very stylish and superbly manufactured. I was looking for a small pda-phone I can carry around in my pocket and my Qtek 2020 was a little bit to bulky.
This machine is great. Not much bigger then my Siemens S65.
So far it runs every program I had on my Qtek.
GPS is fine via BT and TomTom 3 is running well.
The SD-card-slot works with my 1 GB Transcend SD-Card and my SAN-DISK WLAN Card.
Windows Mobile SE is a big step forward concerning the display settings supporting different font sizes and landscape setting.
The included mini-usb cable is capable of charging and syncing the device simultanously.
Included software is also nice. Truefax, GPRS Monitor, Clearview, voice dialing software.
Didn't have a change to check the battery.

by the way. is there a solution to show the contact info of sent sms?

hi andilein, would you mind to post some photo for us ?

andilein said:
hi,
I just received mine from t-mobile Germany yesterday.
It looks great. It's very stylish and superbly manufactured. I was looking for a small pda-phone I can carry around in my pocket and my Qtek 2020 was a little bit to bulky.
This machine is great. Not much bigger then my Siemens S65.
So far it runs every program I had on my Qtek.
GPS is fine via BT and TomTom 3 is running well.
The SD-card-slot works with my 1 GB Transcend SD-Card and my SAN-DISK WLAN Card.
Windows Mobile SE is a big step forward concerning the display settings supporting different font sizes and landscape setting.
The included mini-usb cable is capable of charging and syncing the device simultanously.
Included software is also nice. Truefax, GPRS Monitor, Clearview, voice dialing software.
Didn't have a change to check the battery.
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Post some photos please.
What difference does the 64MB of RAM make as against 128MB?
What's Clearview?

andilein said:
hi,
I just received mine from t-mobile Germany yesterday.
It looks great. It's very stylish and superbly manufactured. I was looking for a small pda-phone I can carry around in my pocket and my Qtek 2020 was a little bit to bulky.
This machine is great. Not much bigger then my Siemens S65.
So far it runs every program I had on my Qtek.
GPS is fine via BT and TomTom 3 is running well.
The SD-card-slot works with my 1 GB Transcend SD-Card and my SAN-DISK WLAN Card.
Windows Mobile SE is a big step forward concerning the display settings supporting different font sizes and landscape setting.
The included mini-usb cable is capable of charging and syncing the device simultanously.
Included software is also nice. Truefax, GPRS Monitor, Clearview, voice dialing software.
Didn't have a change to check the battery.
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Great mini review. Any additional comments would be most appreciated

HI
I can really recommend this review:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3300.html
andilein

andilein said:
HI
I can really recommend this review:
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3300.html
andilein
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Is the version you ordered English?? Sim unlocked?? What website did you order from?? Thanks

Thinking of buying one, need your advice

OK, so I am looking to buy a Jam. I am in the UK and currently carry around an IPAQ with TOMTOM on for the car, a Nokia mobile phone and a Blackberry for my work email.
I've been reading these threads for some time and see there are some problems and no one can get the Blackberry client to work. But it could still save me two of the devices I currently have (phone / tomtom).
Which GPS devices are you using with the Jam and TomTom, are you happy with them and how much were they (in UK)?
Can I use bluetooth headset and bluetooth GPS with TOMTOM at the same time? e.g. if I am driving and tomtom is nagivating me, can I make and receive calls still?
How good is it as a phone? Is sound quality ok? I will be using it for work so can't afford to have something that isn't reliable and will annoy my customers!
Is there anything else coming along in the short term I should wait for instead of getting the Jam?
From your wealth of experience, do you recommend I get one or wait?
Will is work in America? My company is based in Boston and I travel there sometimes so it would need to work out there too.
Many thanks in advance for any advice.

I would wait for a similar device that ships with the new Windows Mobile 5. As it stands, there will be no official release of the OS for the Magician :-(
When released in September, the ETEN M600 will be a very good alternative.
(Hope HTC, imate, etc. read these forums!!!)

Just found this: http://www.mobile-review.com/exhibition/computex-2005-smarts-en.shtml
Looks like the R-Ten M600 might be the one I wait for as it has WM 5.0 and WiFi. Unless HTC release a new Magician.

You guys mean ETEN M600 ? But in another thread here they were saying Eten M500 is good enough... ?

Holux GR-230 + Destinator 3.075

To All
I’ve been using the HOLUX gr 230 for more than a year in my XDA II using Windows Mobile 2003 and Windows Mobile 5.0 with Destinator 3.075.
I never had any problems using it.
Last month I bought an i-mate JasJar that comes with original Mobile 5.0.
The Bluetooth seems to work fine because I’m using a Jabra 250V and if I turn it off and turn it on again, Windows recognize that the Jabra is on and work fine.
As you see in “display_2.bmp”, HOLUX work fine in the JasJar, with Destinator 3.075 see on “display_5.bmp”.
But, if I turn off and on again, It appears a message on the display: Cannot open the COMPORT as you can see on “display_1.bmp”.
Why it appears a “?” on the left side of HOLUX? (as you can see on “display_3.bmp”).
It the “display_4.bmp” you can see the HOLUX is working in COM 4.
Have somebody already tested HOLUX GR 230 on a i-Mate JasJar, or similar product using Windows Mobile 5.0?
Best regards,
Jose

This might be a slightly 'dumb' question, but - how did u manage to work fine with WM5 for a year, when it only came out officially just a few weeks back?
IF u did actually use WM5, and not something else branded as such (and I am giving u the benefit of my doubts here) - then MAYBE it was an unofficial and/or unfinished product/version, which might explain your current problems.
I have just bought the Holux 236 which I assume uses the same drivers as the 230, and also had some troubles, but haven't really manged to find time to deal with it yet - If I have any solutions in the near future I will let you know.
Good Luck!

techDot said:
This might be a slightly 'dumb' question, but - how did u manage to work fine with WM5 for a year, when it only came out officially just a few weeks back?
IF u did actually use WM5, and not something else branded as such (and I am giving u the benefit of my doubts here) - then MAYBE it was an unofficial and/or unfinished product/version, which might explain your current problems.
I have just bought the Holux 236 which I assume uses the same drivers as the 230, and also had some troubles, but haven't really manged to find time to deal with it yet - If I have any solutions in the near future I will let you know.
Good Luck!
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My current problem is the JasJar OS 5.0?
I did not have an problem with the Himalaya OS 2003 or OS 5.0 + Holux 230 + Destinator 3.
The best version of WS OS 5.0 for Himalaya was by buzz_lightyear.
Since 02/24/05 OS 5.0 whas available in the forum.
Thanks you, as I dont have the OS 5.0 sorce code when my friend that works at Microsoft solve the problem I let you to know.
[],s
-jose

is it still worth to buy Win2003 Magician ?

hello guyz,
This is my first post here. I have a couple of questions from experienced PPC users . Please respond as early as possible. Thanks in Advance.
1) I am getting a very good deal for Magician(i-mate JAM). But i am confused wether to buy it or not. Is it still a good idea to buy a WM2003 PPC device OR should i wait for WM5 PPC devices to become cheaper. ( i might have to wait around1 year which is a loooong time... )
2) Are people still writing softwares for PPC WM2003 devices? or the majority has moved to writing softwares for WM5 ?
3) Right now which windows have more softwares available. WM2003 or WM5?
4) If i purchase softwares written for WM2003, will these softwares run on PPC WM5 device?
5) Finally i need some nice websites for free or paid softwares for PPC. ( you can PM me if you are not allowed to post websites links here)

The magician is a great device and, if you don't need integrated Wifi, still the best compact PPC you can get.
WM2003 in general has some advantages over WM5: It is usually faster and has less bugs. WM5 only offers better one hand use and no data loss when battery is down. The latter can be compensated for WM2003 with using good backup software (sprite backup) and the internal backup battery of the magician. I never had data loss because of this.
Get the magician for a good price. You won't regret. Really advanced devices are still to come. Maybe the Hermes will beat the Magician but it will definitely be more expensive at that time.
Regarding the software question: I haven't seen any software which only works on WM5 and not WM2003 but I have seen many softwares not supporting WM5 yet but WM2003. Most softwares are even still backwards compatible to WM2002. You can compare this to the desktop world. Most programs can still be run under Windows 98.

I recommend to get the imate Jam with 128Mb RAM if possible
Get the imate JAM if you do not have a wi-fi network at home

I fully agree Dandie's comment. I tried my friend's O2 Atom for a week (he need me to install softwares for him) and I still prefer my Magician as my working/entertaining machine.
Pro: Cheaper, more responsive and faster (media will have jitter sometime on the Atom if running GPS together), more softwares are available to 2003SE than WM5
Con: No wifi (not a problem to me since I can BT over Activesyn at home), Bad Camera.
Unless there is a very good deal. I never see the need to upgrade to 128mb if U know how to manage the RAM use. (I always run TomTom 5/IGuidance 2/TCPMP together without any problem.)

Unfortunately WM5 is the way of the future, but it's unlikely you'll encounter software that won't work on WM5 and WM2003 (since both can use .net, the "new" developers environment).
I still use my Magician as my main phone, although I'm upgrading in a few weeks and it'll have to be a WM5 phone, probably a Mio 702. WM5 adds some usability features, but not enough to turn my head IMHO.
If you're getting a good deal on a Magician, I'd certainly consider it. I'll be holding on to mine for a good while yet.
Oh, and I recommend using VJLumos II. It really brightens up the Magician screen, gives it a new lease of life.
V

I agree with V the magician still is a wonderful device & when you don't want to wait for the devices that sports hsdpa you can have loads of fun with it.
Like stated earlier TCPMP for video, Mortplayer for audio. Lots of games & other goodies. AEButton Plus for one-handed in combi wit ... VJKeyPress.
Make sure you got a good deal & enjoy it.
M

WM2003 also means no bluetooth A2DP, at least not from anything other than WMP, and even then with some odd bitrate and sample rate restrictions.
Also, I don't know about you guys, but getting stereo sound out of the magician at the same time as using an external mic is a goddam pain. Every handsfree kit I try with a mic will only play sound in the left ear.
Personally, I'd go for a Wizard (or even a Hermes <3 ). It's only a bit bigger, but has WM5, WiFi /and/ a keyboard. Now, if only Orange carried it in the UK... >.<

I've got a Wizard. It's the 3rd one in 5 months and it locks up nearly every day but a soft reset sorts it out and it fails to recognise the memory card 2-4 times a day (a known wizard issue) If you dont need the wi-fi stick with the Jam NEVER had a problem with mine. As for the wizards keyboard..I use the on screen one it's quicker.
For stereo headphones with mic try the SE P900/910 headphones they work brilliantly!

bobgorila said:
WM2003 also means no bluetooth A2DP, at least not from anything other than WMP, and even then with some odd bitrate and sample rate restrictions.
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Maybe just the O2 Atom and my stereo headset, the quality of BT A2DP is just a joke for me.
bobgorila said:
Also, I don't know about you guys, but getting stereo sound out of the magician at the same time as using an external mic is a goddam pain. Every handsfree kit I try with a mic will only play sound in the left ear.
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It's just U. I use my Sony headphone (with shorter cable) with this 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter w/ external mic. And it just work GREAT!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT

Mine can be bought here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9725172095
I upgraded to the Prophet. 8)
This is the second listing on eBay. The first one got hit by a nigerian scammer. :roll: Now I've had to specify UK only and PayPal only.

thank you for your comments guyz
i have bought the magician device. So far i am pretty happy with it.

Join the club, did you got a nice offer?
M

i think i did get a good offer
i got imate jam (scratchless screen) + alumunium case + 128Mb kingston SD card for 19000Rs ( 316$ )

Seems like a fair price to me. Did you search the other threads for goodies & tips?
M

Both magician and mini are great device.
Wifi? sandick sdio wifi card with 256m storage is available in a reasonable price now. BT & MINI CABLE could bring with most functions you need.
In my point of view, never try detailed camera in PDA.
So, congradulation you with a desirable product.

navid_ahmed said:
i think i did get a good offer
i got imate jam (scratchless screen) + alumunium case + 128Mb kingston SD card for 19000Rs ( 316$ )
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where did u get it so cheap......i bought it for 24000rs with no accessory

jackleung said:
It's just U. I use my Sony headphone (with shorter cable) with this 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter w/ external mic. And it just work GREAT!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
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Mine arrived this morning, it works, it works!!!
Thankyou.

xda2i or xda exec?

I've recently had my xda2i stolen (again) and the insurance company are offerig me an exec as replacement.
I use it mainly for tomtom (5) and my calendar.
I can't get the version I have to install on the exec, but it seems a better machine.
Which one is best, and how can I get version TTN5 5.21 which seems to be what is required

I changed from a IIi to an exec, it's a nice phone and a worthy replacement.
As for tomtom, surely you can just re-install it from the original disks, AFAIK 5.21 is a free upgrade for legitimate users

I agree, i missed my 2i like mad, but after spending time sorting the exec I would miss it like mad now, just think of the screen resolution and the keyboard, hard things to live without once you have had them!
Bryson

For what it's worth, I just switched from a 2 to a 2i to an Exec. The 2i was very nice but there's no WM5, and I'm too fond of persistent storage now to give it up.
Plus the Exec really is a nice machine. The keyboard is useful (more so if you get PQz so you can have Control and Alt back), the battery life is longer, the screen is nicer. And Buzz is about to release a SIM unlocker, so no more worries about that!
Personally, I'd rate the machines in this order, best at the top:
- Exec
- Himalaya with WM5
- Alpine with WM2003SE
G

Thanks for the replies all.
In the end I decided to go for the 2i, mainly because I already have a thb setup in my vehicle and the tom tom works OK on it.
I've had 2 stolen in 6 months, lets see how long this one lasts