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ok, i have installed the special edition rom for my xda1 and its a definate improvement over the original rom..
but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
of course, if there was a xda-developers special edition rom based on wm2003 that would be the best solution... :?
Nas
There are many WM 2003 ROMs and most of them works quite fine ... try the kitchen at www.yorch.net or http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
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but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
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Where is the WM2003 upgrade from O2??????
Give me alink to download please...
Stefan
I didnt know there was one, anybody else seen it?
nope i cant see it.
my bad
soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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Just do it, upgrade it! I upgraded my Siemens SX56 with AT&T to 2003 and than cooked the rom from Yorch to unlock. By the way, it is a very good rom, thanks Yorch.
I did it with SD cards one of my XDA's, it worked perfect and quick: saved 2003 rom on one card, cooked Yorche's on another. The saving and installation was done through the bootloader as discribed in the proceedures in frequently asked questions section. The extracting and saving of Yorche's rom was done through OSImageTool in XDAtools into an SD card inserted in a USB card reader/writer (Inland 9 in 1 card Reader/Writer, $10 at Micro Center). The battery was fully charged on my SX56 and the flashing of rom's back and forth was done without the XDA being pluged to power unit. I tested the unlocking with a T-Mobile card, it recognised it, I made some phone calls with no problems, kept Yorch cooked rom for two days to get to know it and then flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in my friends apartment just to show off how easy it is to flash the rom. it worked very well (it took about 5 minutes).
The 2nd SX56 was done all through ActiveSync with the XDA and card reader/writer pluged in and all synchronised (allscreen savers, power savers etc on PC and XDA OFF and battery charged). This XDA still had the original 2002 rom. The unlocking went very smooth. I did a full back up of the rom with ActiveSync. Since the cooked rom is PW10A1 and mine was PW10B1 I needed to get back my original rom to the XDA. The restore didn't work because it is a different partnership. So I flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in a card reader/writer and OSImadeTool through ActiveSync. Everything was fine all the way to hard reset. I waited a minuteor so and did a hard reset and nothing happened, did it couple of times, nothing. It would not restart. I pressed the power botton and it went to bootloader mode. I did soft reset and the unit goes blank, dead. So I inserted the SD card with my 2003 rom into the XDA's memory slot and did the the bootloader mode, it took it, I flashed it. And now I have my 2nd SX56 with 2003 rom and the old radio stack ulocked working like a champ. I tasted with T-Mobile card and it works instantly, no configurations needed. Now I have to do a complete upgrade.
After all I like the new 2003 better but with some of the programs from Yorch Kitchen rom, which I installed and they work fine.
You, ladies and gentlemen, at XDA-Developers are the greatest thing that happened to the mobile devices community. I honor you and thank you. And Peter Poelman, you are the wizard, thank you.
John
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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Look here for the answers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ
and here to cook the rom:
www.yorch.net
check what you want or don't want and click Build ROM now, after it is done click Download. Before you build and download choose which file you want, exe or nb1. What ever you do backup your original rom preferably and safer to an SD card either through OSImageTools in XDATools and ActiveSync or the mode and the SD card pluged into your XDA
bootloader, and read the forum in details...
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
Good luck, John
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The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
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John (and any others out there),
I hope that I'm not asking something here that is covered in some faq on this board and I think I've read them all, but...
I see mention of a lot of versions. 4.00.21, 4.00.01, A30.05, A30.09 etc...
Is there someone that can tell us new guys a little more about these? IE, what is it exactly, 2003, 2002, beta, final, alpha?
I recently bought a Wallaby, and want very much to use the MS Voice Command. Therefore, I have a definate need for a 2003 rom. I have read and reread the forums here and have a good handle on how to flash my rom, but I'm so confused as to what the best (read most reliable) rom to install, as well what radio version would work with the given rom choice. I'm not necessarily asking for a recommendation, but perhaps a nudge in the write direction.
Sorry to dump on you in particular, nothing personal either mind you! It's just that I'd love to read a FAQ for the different versions and what might be expected from them I guess. (I hope like heck I'm making sense here!)
Thanks!
Larry
Hello,
Actually, the only difference between ROM versions is bug fixing with newer versions, but the only significant factor is whether it's PPC 2002 or WM 2003 ROM.
For upgrading, I may recommend TMO 4.01.00 (my personal preference) or A30.09 (with a minor sound issue). If you need to unlock your device you must start with PPC2002 3.17 ROM first then select any WM2003 later.
There is no connection between the ROM and RSU. However, the RSU is the most sensitive part in the XDA. If you have a functioning RSU ... do NOT touch it!!
Last, get a SD card and take a backup ... it's safer and you can use the SD to upgrade as well.
Good luck ...
This is to Larry,
All these replies take you through the right directions. I have two Siemens SX56 devices with AT&T Wireless, both PW10B1, Pocket PC2002 (Ver. 3.0.12039), ROM Ver. A.20.17 ENG, RADIO Ver. A.20.10, 32MB Rom.
1st one I upgraded the day AT&T and Siemens released the Mobile 2003 free upgrade. As much as people complained, cursed and were distroying there SX56 devices ( what I read on AT&T forums) I never had any problems, and as a matter of fact the more I used the device the better it became. I played with it for about two weeks and then I decided to unlock it. So I placed my SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader, downloaded the original 2003 Rom image, soft reset the device. I cooked the Special Edition Rom based on 3.17.03 O2 ROM in Yorch Kitchen, I built the nb1 file, I downloaded, extracted with WinZip, put it on another SD card, put the card in my SX56 device, started the bootloader, flashed it, did a hard reset. It didn't ask me if I wanted to unlock it but the XDAunlock program was there, I taped it, it asked me if I want to unlock, I did. I checked it with a T-Mobile sim card, made a phone call with no problem (I tested with the same card before and after, before asked me for the pin number and after it logged in to T-Mobile network). I used it with the Special Edition Rom for about a week to see which programs I liked and wanted to install on my device after I flash back to saved Mobile 2003 Rom. I flashed it back with the 2003 Rom image. I was on the road, away from power supply, my pc, usb ports etc. Just the unit with its battery charged up, the SD card and the bootloader. It took 5 minutes.
My 2nd SX56 device I did before the 2003 upgrade, the original 2002 still there, with ActiveSync, OSImageTool in XDATools, SD cards, card reader/writer and nb1 file. This time I overlooked the saving of the original 2002 Rom and it went directly into the flashing with the Special Edition Rom cooked in Yorch Kitchen. I unlocked it, tested with T-Mobile sim card and flashed it back with the the Mobile 2003 Rom image saved from my 1st SX56 device. It didn't want to wake up after the hard reset. It kept going to the bootloader mode. So I inserted the SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader , flashed it back again with Mobile 2003 Rom, did a hard reset. It worked. Now I have my 2nd SX56 with new mobile 2003 Rom but old, the original Radio Stack from Pocket PC 2002. It works fine. The working is like the Upgraded 2003 device. Maybe with the older radio Stack is more stable on the signal, and I don't know for sure because I did not tested, only what I read and the people having problems. My preference is a total upgrade, the Rom and the Radio Stack, I noticed that the audio quality is better with the total upgrade, specialy when on the speaker phone during a phone call.
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
saracen said:
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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Thanks, guys!
I kind of knew that the differences were a matter of bug fixes, what I wasn't sure of is which is 2003 or 2002. I'm going to keep reading here of course. This is a fantastic site to be sure!
So, bottom line is I guess I'm just going to pick a couple of them and flash them and play with them so which works the best.
Many thanks again guys! Larry
Larry,
Yes, exactly. I forgot to say that my new rom is an AT&T- Siemens: ROM Ver. A.30.09 ENG, Radio Stack A.33.02. The previous Rom version had a band switch (900 for Europe or 1900 for Americas) in the Settings and under Phone but now with the new it has an auto configuration which I like better. I can always search the network manually. By accident I found that if you set it to manual and don't have a network specified or any signal strength showing as long as the phone is turned ON, I can still get on Internet.
Good luck, John
One final ?
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
I first came to xda-developers when I was trying to use my Qtek as a modem....thereafter we saw the O2 and Qtek PPC (2002) upgrades that brought in the Wmodem utility.
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though.
Cheers
Sands
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That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though
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IMHO, the new PCs/laptops with either built-in WiFi or WLAN functions or with equivalent PCMCIA cards, or even with SIM module inside, made it out of the wishlist
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sandyind said:
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
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The German Version 4.00.33 from t-mobile comes with the wmodem application
HTH
Stefan
Stefan,
Is there an English version of Mobile 2003 with wireless modem for PW10B1 XDA?
Thanks, John
Can't receive USA Cingular signal 850mhz- Help Anyone?
I've posted on some other forums but no-one seems to have an answer. Can an unlocked AT&T SX56 be adjusted to work on the Cingular 850mhz system?
Help!!
Doc
Hi!
Installed T-Mobile WM2003 from the ROM kitchen.......... Network very weak and the phone has become very slow. Now I want to move back to O2 original ROM (WM2002).
When I try to install the ROM I get an error message :
"ERROR: GetConnectionType - An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. error getting connectiontype"
and the 02 ROM installer cannot communicate with my XDA.
Can someone please help me get back the original 02 ROM, with sim unlocked???
Really need some help here. :?:
I loved my phone as it was and I was stupid to experiment with it !!
regards ,
Diki
If you used the kitchen to cook your ROM then it shouldn't have any impact on the RSU part. Plz give more details on your RSU version, your network MHz and what types of problems you have ?
BTW, did you upgrade to 4.01.00 or 4.01.16 ?
To get back to PPC2002, you can use the SD method
if you upgraded to the 4.01.16 I had this problem too.
you can't use the rom.exe method via the cradle if you've put this tmobile rom on your XDA, you have to use the SD flash method.
I upgraded it to 4.01.16
Radio version installed is 4.21.00
PROBLEMS:
a. The XDA has become very slow (I have a lot of free space on the XDA)
b. Network signals are weak.
Going back to 2002
I received from a friend a pre-release version of t-mobile ppc2003 a few months ago. He put it on my phone via a sd flash. T-mobile has just released (for free) on their website a final release of ppc 2003 and the one I am using is somewhat unstable at times. Does anyone happen to have t-mobile ppc2002 so that I can upgrade. Thanks.
Diki said:
PROBLEMS:
a. The XDA has become very slow (I have a lot of free space on the XDA)
b. Network signals are weak.
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a. there is a bug in WM2003 and there is a tiny program that should be placed in the \windows\startup directory to solve it. The program is called Clear_Notify.exe ... simple search and you will find it.
If not, then it's a Radio problem that impacts the ROM part. Few hard resets may solve it.
b. if you mean the indicator on the window tray, forget about it ... the point is the ability of making/receiving calls. If you face real problems, I think it's the 4.21 RSU, but be extreamly careful ... upgrading the RSU is very risky especially with this RSU 4.21 on your device!!!!!!.
Good luck
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if you upgraded to the 4.01.16 I had this problem too.
you can't use the rom.exe method via the cradle if you've put this tmobile rom on your XDA, you have to use the SD flash method.
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1. Can you please send me the steps for installing the O2 OS on a SD card?
2. and once it is installed and working, can I just go ahead and delete all the folder (windows program files etc) from the phone memory?
What are the risks involved in writing ROM to SD Card?
I have no idea of this. Can you please help me?
Hi Diki,
Did you get a soution to your problem yet? I elaborate on the same problem.
Thanks for your answer
Norbert
I have the same problem and I still don't know what to do. Please elaborate if you can.
:roll: I have this problem too. If someone find the selution,PLS send me a Email: [email protected].
THX！
:roll: I have this problem too. If someone find the selution,PLS send me a Email: [email protected].
THX！
Hi all,
Thanks to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=39630#39630 and especially remarks from hb88xx, I successfully managed to recover from my own mistakes (that many people have done as well apparently).
Here is the story:
* I bought my O2 xda from Telstra in Australia where the band is 900/1800. It is a PW10A1 device.
* I then cooked a rom with Yorch's kitchen and as many others, didn't read enough posts before doing so and opted for the infamous EXE method as I had successfully upgraded once before from O2 using this method.
* As my bootloader is 5.17 and my cooked rom was based upon T-Mobile, I was stuck: impossible to downgrade the bootloader because of TMO checks (the wallaby patch doen't work) and impossible to up/downgrade using the SD card method because of the bootloader version.
* Still, I could use my device but my WM2003 was very buggy.
* Out of hope, I decided to upgrade to another TMO rom, but this time an official one (4.01.16) as I read it was quite stable.
* That was the BIG mistake as I also did the RSU upgrade and I ended up with a 900/1900 device, having the 4.21 RSU.
* I tried many of the tips I read from this forum, but none of them worked and I had to buy a cheap cellphone to use my SIM card on it and keep my xda as a pda.
Basically, what you need to do is the following:
* Using the attached file or the official TMO upgrade, extract and copy the files into the \Windows directory of the xda.
* Detach it from the craddle and run the EXE on it.
* It says things in german (performing upgrade) and then a final status (whatever "erfolreich", ie successful). Click OK and finally, reboot the device.
* You now have a 3.23.11 RSU.
Once again, thanks a lot to all participants to this forum and especially hb88xx.
And thanks also for the remark below
Regards,
Bob.
Hey mate ...
It's great that you have learned this lesson, but now you may cause troubles to some unexperienced users by posting this file with this name
Simply, what you have posted is the typical RSU upgrade 4 files you should find in ANY RSU exe file, but because you posted this file with the name RSU_Fix, I 'm afraid some one will just use it with a B device thinking it will solve his problem and endup with a dead RSU.
So, plz remove this file or rename it RSU_3_23.zip or so
BobMorane said:
Hi all,
Thanks to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=39630#39630 and especially remarks from hb88xx, I successfully managed to recover from my own mistakes (that many people have done as well apparently).
.....
Bob.
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Hi BobMorane.
I am having the same problem as yours, upgraded to WM2003 and can't go back to ppc2002.
Sounds like You have reverted your xda rom to ppc2002, didn't you?
Don't quite understand those that listed in your post. Could you explain a little more?
Thanks.
Raymond
XDA1 bootloader v5.17
Hi bob,
I'm a little confused - I understand RSU 4.21 is for 900/1800. It is the RSU that o2asia currently distributes.
My XDA is a PW10A1 and currently has RSU4.21 (from o2asia), Wallaby 5.17 (no idea where it came from... am guessing o2asia as well) and T-mobile WM2003 4.01.16 ENG (.EXE cooked from Lumpistefans)
As a result, I'm stuck as well. However, I can still use my phone on GSM900/1800; as long as I avoid settings-phone-band; all is well; but if I do wander into that, a reset to the bootloader-calander-gsm900/1800 solves the problem (albit temporary...)
Anyway, I'm meeting up with a friend to borrow a SD card+reader over this weekend or the next, so that I can change the ROM (get out of theT-mobile WM2003 rut). Am a little concerned about what you wrote however:
BobMorane said:
* As my bootloader is 5.17 and my cooked rom was based upon T-Mobile, I was stuck: impossible to downgrade the bootloader because of TMO checks (the wallaby patch doen't work) and impossible to up/downgrade using the SD card method because of the bootloader version.
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Could you please eleborate more on how the wallaby patch didn't work? How did downgrading the RSU to 3.23.11 help? Are you able to replace your T-mobile ROM or Wallaby 5.17 following that? Or are you still stuck, but at least the phone works on GSM900/1800?
More information please?
Hi,
Some anwers below.
RaymondB :
Actually, I didn't revert to PPC202 and I still enjoy the 2003 features, but I managed to get rid of a 900/1900 issue.
xdagirl :
My problem was slightly different as I did not have the RSU4.21 for asian devices. My aim with the post was more to explain how to get out of the original T-Mobile rom lock-in (I did not use a cooked one because of my 5.17 wallaby). I assume you can do it as well with the asian RSU4.21. If you have it, I can try it and let you know.
As for the 5.17 wallaby issue, I was stuck in the midst of 2 issues : the 5.17 doesn't let you access the SD card method and you need first to downgrade it to 5.15. The patch to do this can't be used if you have installed a T-Mobile rom as it blocks the connection. I couldn't get around this and that's the reason I upgraded to the offical TMO rom.
BobMorane said:
Hi,
Some anwers below.
RaymondB :
Actually, I didn't revert to PPC202 and I still enjoy the 2003 features, but I managed to get rid of a 900/1900 issue.
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Thanks for your reply, Bob.
So you are still with WM2003. Is this the new official one or the buggy one that you've had earlier. If its the new one, how did you do the flashing?
Did you downgrade the bootloader to v5.15?
I really wish to go back to ppc2002, as the current one seems to be quite unstable. At times, it reset itself, especially when some changes was made to some particular today plugin. It also turn on itself, which eat away the precious battery power. Also, the phone setting function and the band switching utilities will hard reset the xda.
Sorry for so much bugging. Hope your could help.
Thanks and cheers.
Raymond
XDA1 bootloader v5.17
I have a WM2003 (ROM version A.30.09 ENG) on my SX56, that I had upgraded after putting in the SER to unlock the phone. Now WM2003 is much too buggy for me!
- the phone rings just once on an incoming call
- the system hangs every now and then
- apps take too damn long to start up
- ring volume is not very high
and on & on & on.......
I'd like to upgrade something more stable - either WM2002 or 2003 (if there's a stable version out there). Did go to LumpiStefan's kitchen but there are several options within the 2003 ROM's itself.
Can someone pls recommend to me which ROM would be best for me. And can I put in a T-Mobile ROM into the SX56?
TIA
Omi
A30.09 is known to have some issues with the sound.
TMO 4.01.00 is a very good and stable ROM, and yes you can use it with SX-56 device as long as you don't touch the RSU.
Thanks Biso007.
OK, so if I go to LumpiStefan's kitchen and cook a ROM there and put it into the phone, I would only be changing the PDA OS (and not doing anything to the RSU), correct? Just want to be sure before I go and experiment
Omi
How about the 4.01.16 ENG ? The kitchen says that it is the official TMO release? Can I go for that, since it guess it is the most recent release ?
Omi
4.01.16 ENG is working perfectly!
I would strongly recommend this ROM.. its WM 2003 version.
AND, I recommend the SD Card method.. flawless installation!
Question regarding newer ROM for the SX56
I have the older ROM and have not experienced any problems with anything that was mentioned. Am I just extremely lucky or is thing something I should expect to arrive shortly, considering I downloaded my newer ROM recently from the Siemens Site. I use everything on my phone and have no problems at all, only sh_ _ _ _ signal strength, damn AT&T! I would switch but still own then a year on my contract, so I won't go on and on about that.
Please let me know the pros to this newer ROM, at least in terms of stability and performance, if that is possible from someone that has loaded it.
Oh - one more Question...
Would I have to reload all my installed applications after flashing my ROM, or can I simply back them up and then restore them from backup without having to enter all the keys, and licenses that you would normally have to put in on the installation?
Thanks!
mraj said:
4.01.16 ENG is working perfectly!
I would strongly recommend this ROM.. its WM 2003 version.
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Some people encountered problems with 4.01.16, so I didn't want to risk especially that when I checked the system files and DLLs of this ROM I found that they are dated the same as the 4.01.00 ones!!
chalil said:
I have the older ROM and have not experienced any problems with anything that was mentioned
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I 'm refering to A30.09 and its known sound bug (clipping) ... which ROM you mean ??
Wokay, 4.01.00 it is then
Thanks everyone, especially Biso007, appreciate your help.
Omi
Thaks everyone for your help, successfully upgraded to 4.01.00, though i lost all my contacts :-(
I had backed them up on a SD card and when I tried to restore that after upgrading, nada!
any ideas how i can get them back (i didn't sync with oputlook before the upgrade).
Omi
SD backup can be restored only to the same ROM version
It's a silly task if you really want your contacts back (long list I mean) .. flash your ROM to the old version, restore the SD backup, sync with outlook, flash the new ROM version, sync with outlook again ...
Don't you think that keying your contacts is easier ??
HELP ... I was using Rom kitchen WM2003 from T Mobile for many months... I have dropped my XDA I and it hung at boot, I reloaded original ATT rom and phone works but with ANY WM2003 rom (Tried all versions from Kitchen) phone hangs at boot screen. Any suggestions on what to do. I have researched many forums and did not find an answer to this one. (Phone is out of warranty).
Bootloader: 5.22
Works with: A.20, 3.x
Does not work with: A.30, 4.x
Which method of flashing are you using, I found that I got a hung screen if I used mmc memory card for flashing, used an sd card and all was fine.
Using an SD card... I have flashed this device many times with WM2003 roms with no problemes... but now ... it won't load anything but WM2002.
Bootloader tests are A1... no errors.. and I was able to load Rogers ATT (canada) from the Kitchen with no probleme but the rom is full of bugs (cannot load phone module) and any other rom, T Mobile, ATT siemens, etc... don't work.
I was suspecting hardware issue but Bootloader tests are A1.
Weird...
Yanick
ATT Rom Kitchen
Where is a good ATT ROM Kitchen site?
Do you found a solution for this problem? I have really the same. with my XDA.
All 2002 roms are working - none of the 2003.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Henner
i have this problem with some Qtek 1010
it work only with 2002 ver
i tried downgrade boot from 5.22 to 5.15 and the same problem
any solution ??
i have solution!
This really helps. I live in Germany - so it's difficult to come to Toronto!
Cheers,
Henner
upgrade 2003
I have a upgrade for simenes to wm2003 and the rom will be come
version A.30.09 ENG
and the radio version A.33.02
but i can't upload here I tried but no luck send me a email to send is
around 18 MB