Question for developers - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General
I want to learn how to develop small apps for the pocket pc platform.
What language should I learn. What software do u use?
Visual Basic? c++ ? I am kinda stuck.
Can someone point me in the right direction... also where can I find good documentation on developing for this platform?
Thanks
visual studio .net 2003 let you make applications for the xda in c++, c# and basic
embedded visual studio let you make applications for the xda in c++ using mfc and win32
you can also use powerbuilder i think it's called
and gc as in the gnu compiler
which language you want to use is up to you really
Hi,
i just decompressed a .cab file found in my MDA compact extended rom:
Default_PhonePad_ITA_RC10.CAB
i found a lot of files....
0CeSetup.001
0CeSetup.999
IN05D9~1.020
IN71C6~1.016
etc..
etc...
the question is easy...
how can i open these files? What kind of language are those files programmed with?
thanks in advance
how can i open these files? What kind of language are those files programmed with?
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they would be Binary files as in already compiled files you it matter not which language they are written in as when they are compiled they are nothing but 0's and 1's
how you open them really depend on what you mean by opening them
if you mean that you want to run the application then you should not extract the files just doubleclick on the cab file and it autoinstall
if you mean how you edit cab files then there are many cab file editors
try doing a search in the forum or on google
if you mean that you want to decompile them back to code then i'm sure there are tools for that too but code which have already been compiled and then taken back to code looks very very bad
and you need to really understand win32 sdk to understand much of whats going on
decompilers should be able to decompile to what ever langauge they support no matter which language the program originaly was written in
Additional Programs
For Cabs: use the WinCE CAB Manager, download here: sorry forgot the link, just search here.
For ms_.nbf: use the windows mobile 2003 ROM Editor, download here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3208
Rudegar said:
visual studio .net 2003 let you make applications for the xda in c++, c# and basic
embedded visual studio let you make applications for the xda in c++ using mfc and win32
you can also use powerbuilder i think it's called
and gc as in the gnu compiler
which language you want to use is up to you really
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Incorrect. Visual Studio.net 2003 lets you make c# questions for PocketPC, but nothing else. For C++ you needed embeddded visual studio.
Visual Studio.Net 2005 does add everything, but thats in beta.
btf
they would be Binary files as in already compiled files you it matter not which language they are written in as when they are compiled they are nothing but 0's and 1's
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ok, got it
if you mean that you want to decompile them back to code then i'm sure there are tools for that too but code which have already been compiled and then taken back to code looks very very bad
and you need to really understand win32 sdk to understand much of whats going on
decompilers should be able to decompile to what ever langauge they support no matter which language the program originaly was written in
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yes, i meant this. Decompiling the cab file to read the code.
I thought there was a compiler for each language, that's why i was asking.
If somebody could suggest a free good decompiler....
well a cab file is not a program is more like a zip file
use the cab thingy mentioned and get the dll and exe files out of the cab file
here is what you would look for if the programs like most games is in pure ARM code
http://www.google.dk/search?q=arm+decompiler&btnG=Søg&hl=da
maybe this would help if you are trying to access .net
http://www.programmersheaven.com/search/download.asp?FileID=38892
how you go about it when you know something about the arm asm and maybe want to write your own decompiler
http://list.cs.brown.edu/pipermail/plt-scheme/2004-August/006284.html
maybe this
http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/01-09-046
or if you feel luckey
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=pocketpc+decompiler&btnG=Søg&meta=
cab
my apology...cab is not a program...
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