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Dead SDIO slot?

Hi.
I have tried to make two different WiFi SDIO cards work in my Qtek S100 now with no success despite following all advice on these forums and trying many different drivers etc.
My suspicion is that my S100 has a hardware fault and cannot read from the SDIO slot (although MMC cards work fine).
Does anyone know whether there is a way of checking this hypothesis?
Cheers,
Tom

Solved it!
The extra pin that SDIO uses had got pushed down. Use of cocktail stick to bend it back again solved the problem...
The answer to "is there an SDIO test" is yes - insert the card when the device is on standby. If the screen lights up, it's seeing the card.
Tom

Hmm... I sort of have the same problem. I got my new Wifi card today (PocketGear, or Spected mini card) and used it for 10 minutes. I took it out to replace my SD card, the screen lit up but nothing is recognising. Storage card doesn't appear and phone things nothing's connected when the Wifi card is in. Not good!
I'll check the pins when I get home, but since the screen is lighting up I'm not sure about that,
Any ideas, people?

Ok, well it seems it's fixed. 3 hard resets in 10 minutes fixed the issue! Good ole Microsoft, making nice and sturdy operating systems!

4GB SD cards again... but Samsung?

Hi all,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...80014389657&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
Some eBay store is selling 4GB OEM Samsungs (or so he claims?) for a pretty good price. Please don't scream 'SCAM!' yet until I confirm that I haven't recieved a card from him .
But the real question here is, will this work on a Magician? There are plenty of threads about Adata and Transcend but none for Samsung (yes I realise samsungs are rebranded at retails, but I doubt Adata and Transcend rebrand Samsungs?)! Note the description says 'Support SD 1.1', so hopefully that means a yes?
Thanks!
EDIT: The listing above ended a while back. Theres a newer bunch here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/150X-4GB-OEM...hZ018QQcategoryZ93930QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

got one in my charmer but yeah they work on magicians too. tested on an imate jam using the latest 1.12 rom.

Thanks for the info, but my one doesn't seem to work in my Magician... heck it looks suspiciously fake, but I've tested it with a 3.6GB batch of files and it holds brilliantly! It works on my older Dell Axim x30, which really doesn't say anything good about the Magician's SD tech...
Well its a bit last ditch, but anyone got any ideas?
Thanks!
EDIT: dave, I found a similar post of yours on Modaco :lol:... well yea since you seem to have bought the exact same item, I was wondering if you could verify some things for me:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!

toomuchdogfur said:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!
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dont know the firmware as i dont have the phone to hand but its got the lastest rom from www.clubimate.com, as i remember i used the one with the lastest date which is either the file youve mentioned or the UK one with the same date.
my card had a green sticker on it, one which looks like its been printed on an inkjet printer and then torn rather than cut to fit the card!

Would it work with the Blueangel?????
Thanks.

Yea I've tried the latest i-mate international ROM with no success, but I'll get the UK one and try that once my download metering goes into off-peak . I hope that it is a ROM problem and not a hardware one, so then I would have at least an inkling of a chance in getting the SD to work on my XDA Mini!
As for the BlueAngel, I can only say that it won't work on a Wallaby (O2 XDA), but then again thats an era behind the BlueAngel... don't buy it until you're certain, because you won't have much fun trying to get a return from a US seller. What I can say is that its not a fake (tested it by dumping >3GB of files on it), but it does come with an ugly sticker... maybe if you ask nicely the dude will give you a choice of colour. :wink:
Blargh bloody card! Why can't you just WORK!

XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..

Re: XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Still doesn't work!!! Even on UK i-mate JAM ROM. Now I'm resorting to farfetched ideas such as filling the card up to 2GB and 3GB (still in progress) and putting autorun programs on it (doesn't work). I've tried it on FAT16, FAT32 and even NTFS with no luck, partitioned it to 2GB with no results. A few more questions, if you don't mind?
- Did your i-mate prompt you to format your card upon insertion, or did it work on the get-go?
- Was it formatted or partitioned in any particular way?
oicnev said:
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..
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Lucky you ! Yes I had the same issue with my Dell Axim x30, what I did was that I used paritioning software to delete the entire 2GB partition, then to paritition the entire 4GB as FAT32... and it worked! So from my view, if your PDA is able to format a certain memory card, even partially, that means it can read it whole BUT it can't format it properly. Hence you format it for it .

a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.

dream_sequence said:
a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.
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I guess you would hafta believe the speed ratings on the cards, hence I presume a 200x MMC would beat the pants of any other flash memory card under 200x, regardless of whether it was a MMC, SD, etc.
Yea I've read of poor Magician compatibility with any cards above 1GB. But what baffles and irritates me most is that dave106 has (seemingly) exactly the same bloody card working in his mate's i-mate JAM, yet my bloody thing will prompt me to format everytime - if I don't, it doesn't read, but if I do, it formats to RAW and doesn't read :? !

hmmmm... examining the 4GB card using Paragon Partition Manager gets some interesting results! Here's the card when properly formatted:
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: FAT32
Drive letter: G:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 32
Sectors / cluster: 8
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 7.7 MB ( 0%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
...and here's the card after a stint in Magician's 'format':
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: Unformatted
Drive letter: *:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 0
Sectors / cluster: 0
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 2048 GB (53363%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
2048GB used??? Even if I delete the partition on my SD card so it becomes RAW, the used stays put at 0 bytes. It seems as though the Magician gets confused as hell when formatting this card... wonder why?

when i got the card, stuck it in the PC and it was already formatted. Put about 3.5gig of music on it and a few days later tried it out in my mates jam and it came up fine in the memory cpl and in file explorer.

Still no luck... after numerous reflashes and ideas, i've given up on this card. Thanks for all the help anyway dave! My uncle has a XDA Mini as well so I'll try it in his later.

howdy,
not too sure wether this revelation applies to your 4gb cards, but I found out many previously unrecognizable sd cards( upto two gigs) were readable once formatted with sktools.
- No, this is not a joke, try it and lets see whether it applies to 4 gig cards as well.
cheers

RE SKTools
Hi.. just tried SKTools.. I couldn't use its feature for SD Cards, it couldn't detect any SD CARD when i inserted my 4gig SD Card, but it could, when i inserted my 256MB...
But thanks,, i found it so useful for alot of my other pocket pc concerns..
HELP...

Thanks for the tip thormdac, but no luck with it either - doesn't detect the memory card on my XDA Mini, and even if i slot it into my Dell x30 (which can read the four gigs perfectly fine) it cannot format the card such so that it can be read by the Magician. BLAH!
Anyway the seller has offered me a refund, which is either very kind or very suspicious depending on your mindset but I think I'll take up the offer - after I try it in my uncle's XDA Mini on Saturday. Losing ten bucks kinda sucks though :roll:.
Oh and btw I also ran the card through this handy formatting tool from Panasonic/Matsushita - the guys who enforce the SD 1.1 standard. It only works for cards up to 2GB, though even when I partitioned the 4GB card to fit under the limits it spat out an error halfway.
On another note: Another SanDisk eBay scam
Sandisk Ultra II 4GB cards don't exist! I was going to report him, but the sneaky bastard avoided mentioning 'SanDisk' at all... plus the 1-day listing makes me suspect that his account might have been hacked. I just hink it's sad there's these scammers around since there are inevitably people who are going to get sucked in by this :x

OMG!
It worked in my uncle's XDA! In frustration, I carefully dissected my Magician with the help of my uncle only to find... errr, nothing. HOWEVER when I partially put it back together (the first two layers of the top-back panel were still off) and switched it on to test, the card bloody worked! Not knowing what I had did, I put it back together only to have it not work again! @#$!
HMMM... again I pulled off the top two layers of the rear and it worked. Eventually we figured out that if we tightened the screws on the rear panel too much, then the Magician would refuse to read the card properly. A bloody manafacturing defect. Peeling off that fat red sticker on the SD card also helped, and eventually the Magician was reliably reading the SD card!
This might go some length in explaining why 4GB SD cards won't work in the Magician while others will - the thickness of SDs may be putting too much pressure on the contacts in the slot, which are already under some pressure by the panel on top of the SD slot. The only difference between my uncle's and my XDA Mini were the bootloader versions - v1.00 and v1.02 respectively - which seems to indicate that my uncle's is an earlier model - perhaps they don't make them like they used to? Note that my XDA Mini reads every card fine BUT the 4GB - I still cannot come up with an explanation for that, considering that this reading problem seems to be a mechanical problem.
I don't know if I'm right at all, but perhaps if anyone is having problems reading SD cards in their Mini, you might want to try opening the cover above your battery panel (its plastic, held by hinges, you should be able to figure how to open it if you're brave enough) and adjusting the tightness of the screws holding the panel underneath (you WILL need a TORX screwdriver... bloody small one too, 'TORX 06').
Thanks for all your help too!

4gb Sd card not working in Imate Jam
Thanks for the tip "toomuchdogfur" untightening the screws on the back of my T mobile MDA has now allowed me to use my new 4gb SD card ,before it would constantly suggest to format card .

Hmmm... so its not a single case after all. I wonder if there are a large number of Magicians with this fault?

4gb sd in magician
Hi guys , Ihave been driven mad by the imate jam ( magician ) not recognising memory cards, so I contacted imate support and got this reply:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed limit, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.
Regards,
Technical Support - i-mate™
So I finally sent my jam back for repair under warranty as the backlight kept going off too and now it seems to be ok . I did wonder about the thickness of the memory cards because some do feel like a tight fit. I have also read on various forums that the jam cannot manage larger than 2gb size memory cards and lots of owners seem to complain of the same format/ reformat problems.I am looking at getting a 4gb card but don't know which one to try. Most uk available ones are 150x speed. Any I mate jam users with good advice on this topic? :!:
Update 18/10/06
Today I received a Kingmax 4gb 40x sd card from Dabs.com £54.48 and it works in my I-mate jam straight out of the box, no formatting or anything. Finally I can hardly believe it!!!!
http://www.dabs.com/ProductList.asp...y=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1
ps. MMC plus cards don't work at all in my Imate jam ,although an old ancient 256mb mmc card works.Guess it really is all down to the speed. Keep it below 60x and its hunky dory!

Help: unable to use SanDisk 1GB SD

I had a 512 MB SanDisk Ultra II Plus SD and it worked perfectly with my Magician and I decided to upgrade to the 1 GB card of the same type.
When I insert the card into the Magician I always get a dialog:
'Do you want to try to format...'
Then I answer yes and after a while I get
'This storage card has been successfully formatted.'
Unfortunately, after that the card in not visible by the filemanager or any other program.
On the other hand the card works perfectly both with a card reader and the USB side.
Can anybody help?

I bought a 2Gb Kingston card that was behaving in a similar way.
I downloaded the evaluation version of Flash Format. That sorted the card out and it has run perfectly in my Magician since.

You might also need to upgrade your ROM.

No problems with my m500 or my m1000
My magician (An Orange SPV m500 actually) has worked fine with my phone .. and an m1000 I own, with no upgrades or anything.

I got exactly the same problem with that card, but the weird thing is that it actually worked one time. I did like 20 putting/getting out and one time it recognized it and worked ok until I pulled it out. I got pretty old ROM version (1.06), would it benefit getting the newer one concerning the SD card?

Help: unable to use SanDisk 1GB SD (solution)
I found a solution.
Glue to the contact side of the SD a small piece of paper (see photo). You might have to experiment width different paper thickness.
Why it works I do not know (the paper decreases the pressure on the contacts) but it does work.

Storage card not working - vario 2

Call me unlucky but after having had 3 repaired (reconditioned) vario 2 PDA's from T Mobile within 4 weeks, which all overheated, they finally gave me a brand new Vario 2 from the shop floor.
Problem is, when I insterted my brand new Micro SD 1Gb sandisk storage card, its not recognised. Also, I notice that when its been inserted for 10 mins, the little metal hook hole on the device (where you attach can a strap) got VERY hot, as well as the area around the storage card got hotter. I have tried a friend SD card and that too does not work. I have also tried soft resetting device with card in/out but no joy.
Has anyone heard of this before? and is there a fix so that it recognises it? Also, why the overheating?
Thanks
Al
Edinburgh

Forgot to say, my device info is;
ROM Version: 1.21.110.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio version: 1.05.05.00
Protocol version: 32.36.7010.04H
WM5

One suggestion: exchange another MicroSD card.

Nghiem said:
One suggestion: exchange another MicroSD card.
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Also worth trying to reformat the SD card with a PC. Some folks find too that they have to be very careful in inserting the card to make sure it is seated correctly.
Mike

Thanks gents. Well Ive reformated it with a PC and I already know the card works fine in other devices/PC so its not faulty.
Has anyone heard of this happening?

qbaser said:
Thanks gents. Well Ive reformated it with a PC and I already know the card works fine in other devices/PC so its not faulty.
Has anyone heard of this happening?
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Other folk have had problems. I have seen debate about whether some brands eg Sandisk are not good etc. I use a Sandisk without problems but others do. There has been discussion in this forum - perhaps try the google search sticky post.
Mike

Also, when the card is inserted, as well as the heat increasing in the device, the battery runs down at 5 times the normal rate. It just lost 20% in the last hour....sitting doing nothing.

The micro SD issue: Which work; and which don't!

Hi guys!
I've read several threads here regarding which cards work and don't work in our machines. One of the main threads is ridiculously long, and describes various reg hacks that do NOT solve the problem.
In my opinion, there is NOTHING worse than a PDA that needs to be rebooted every day or several times a day.
I am starting this thread just to bring the basic information into one place.
I can tell you right now:
I have two 2GB Sandisk MicroSD cards, and one 512MB card.
Not surprisingly, all three have problems in two 8525 devices, with two different WM5 ROM.
I know that the 1GB Made in Japan Kingston seems to work flawlessly.
Can anyone else please share their experiences in this thread? Let's keep it nice and clean, so that people wanting to understand what works and what doesn't.
How are the 2GB Kingston cards? Anyone have any luck?

I have used the SanDisk 2GB with no known issues.

I also have a 2g Sandisk with no issues over nearly 11 months.
I'm not sure you will prove much here as I have seen folks who swear Sandisks are bad and Kingstons (typically 2gig) are flawless. Equally I have seen exactly the reverse views reported. It may have more to do with physical connections (contacts) between device and the card.
But lets see how it pans out.
Mike

bkeenan said:
I have used the SanDisk 2GB with no known issues.
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I have as well and love it. Only issue I have is getting the little sucker out! I just leave it in. The only way I have found to get it out is by opening the back, and using an eye glasses screw driver to slide it out.

sandisk 2g and 1 g here and no issues with either work perfect. um you do know if you push it in it releases the catch and it pops out like its suppose to right?

austinsnyc said:
sandisk 2g and 1 g here and no issues with either work perfect. um you do know if you push it in it releases the catch and it pops out like its suppose to right?
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If only it was that easy. For some reason, mine doesn't do that. I push in, it doesn't pop out

Not AKU2.3?
Hands up those of you who have microSD card problems with AKU2.3 ROMs!

Using a SanDisk 1Gb here no problems. Also using WM5 Build 14955.2.3.0, which is AKU 2.3 is it not?
Mine is the HERM300 (MDA Vario 2).

help
hi I am usin 1gb kingston with hermes.and its speed is too slow like 30kpbs via wm5 storage.I think I need to format my card correctly.any help?
and can any body tell me any tweak to have programs install on folders of my own choice?
thx in advance.
it is a pleasure to write from hermes .....hehe

Kingston 2GB made in Taiwan
Often not responding after loading for a few times. Need to be inserted into the device again.
Toshiba 2GB made in Japan
No problem until now.

Wow, I've got something different!
1GB Corsair MicroSD in my Imate JasJam.
Worked flawlessly for 6 months until I became the new owner of both phone & card, it then had card detection issues for a couple of days, but came good on it's own.
Now on WM6 and still working fine. I'm wondering if larger than 2GB cards will work.
Cheers! Oggy.

I purchased a SanDisk 4gb microSDHC and it DID NOT work!!!
I am now back to using my 2gb A-data microSD (which works fine).

No problems with my A-Data MyFlash 1GB, although once or twice I did have to use a tweezers or a needle to extract it. Just FYI, I bought my card on NewEgg.com, and people there usually leave feedback on if the card worked or not on their particular mobile device.

Very interesting.
So it looks like some people have 2GB Sandisks with NO problems.
Mine pops in and out quite nicely, actually. Although on my dad's unit, you need a tweezers.
Typical......!

jeffreyj900 said:
If only it was that easy. For some reason, mine doesn't do that. I push in, it doesn't pop out
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I have a 8525, had that issue on day 1 and it was driving me crazy. then I thought let's put a needle down there and see what happens!! the thing lost its virginity, now pops in & out just fine
BTW I have Sandisk 2GB microSD card (Made in Taiwan) which works fine, I just have to eject and reinsert it in sleep mode.. else i'll have to SR so that the device would recognize it.

micro SD not reading
My unlocked M3100 has stopped seeing the storage card - nothing wrong with the card (tested elsewhere), and it used to work (on M3100). How might I rectify this?

juann said:
My unlocked M3100 has stopped seeing the storage card - nothing wrong with the card (tested elsewhere), and it used to work (on M3100). How might I rectify this?
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Check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
Mike

My SanDisk 2GB Taiwan card would disappear every other day or so. It wasn't a huge problem as I'd just have to pop it out and push it back in to get everything working again, but I needed another microSD card for another device so I bought a Kingston 2GB hoping to get a Japan card. I ended up with a 2GB Kingston Taiwan card, but it works just fine (a month now) without disappearing *knocks on wood*

Michael_514 said:
I know that the 1GB Made in Japan Kingston seems to work flawlessly.
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I have occasional problems with a 1GB Made in Japan Kingston, so I have to disagree with your statement.
I am convinced that this problem is hardware related. Either a connector fit problem as Michael Channon believes, and/or a motherboard problem as I believe. Earlier Hermes motherboards were manufactured by Hitachi, HTC now uses a different supplier for their motherboards. Rumour has it that the Hitachi mobo's have a problem with the mSD card hardware (could be the same problem I s'pose).
John

Sandisk 2GB card
I also have a Sandisk 2GB.
It had trouble ejecting the first few times and I had to use tweezers or the tip of a razorblade to get it to slide out but after a very short time it started moving normally.
My 8525 does lose site of the card from time to time and I sometimes have to re-insert it several times before it is recognized but I have not had to reset the phone to get it to come back.