WiFi Wep Security problem on NetGear routers - Networking

Hi there,
After fuddling around for a while trying to get my XDAiis to hook into my Netgear broadband network, it dawned on me that maybe the advice to try it without security enabled might be worth a try. And lo and behold, it works, with WEP security turned off.
The problem is, I can't turn off WEP security in my work network - so I'm looking for help on what I need to do settings wise to make my XDA talk to the network properly.
So, here's what I do (and what doesn't work)
Open wireless manager, choose the settings of the Rocket network (my work network) and go to Network Key.
Under Data Encryption, I choose WEP, and enter the network key and the proper index (which I've made great pains to check IS the right key and index).
Now, no matter whether I set the Authentication to Open, Shared, WPA or WPA-PSK or if I then change the settings under the 802.1x tab, and cycle them so I've gone through all possible combinations, when I try to go online, I always get a "The page you are looking for cannot be found" error.
So, can anyone tell me what the settings are supposed to be for the Network Key tab and the 802.1x tab? If I know, and it's just plain not working, then at least I know there's something else the matter. But, like I said, i know I've entered the right key and index - and, like I said at the beginning, the XDAiis does hook into the network with security disabled.
Thanks in advance for any help you can be.
C.ya
Jsedit

Ah,
Don't worry, sorted it myself (I think).
In case something like this occurs with anyone else, after tweaking away, I finally sorting things by setting the router to Shared Key authentication. If it was on Open - or on Automatic, it just wouldn't work, but when I changed the Router to Shared Key, all has fallen into place.
Have a nice day.
Jsedit.

fwiw, I had fun trying to connect to my wifi network until I realised that I had to enter the 32 char key into my XDA in uppercase...

thks jdedit yr post sorted me out nicely
ahh forum power
paul

Unsure if this matters to you now...
Ok, I've a Netgear DG834G at home and I've never had a problem connecting my wi-fi devices to it. These are the settings I have under the 'Wireless Settings' option in the left hand pane when logged on to the router. They are of course my own personal preferences and straight forward and depending on the sensitivity of your data you may wish to change the encryption strength and whether you use a pre-shared key..
Wireless Network
SSID - (The name of your network)
Region - Europe
Channel - select the channel you wish to use (the number of channels you have available is dependent on the region) I currently use channel 11
Mode - g & b
Wireless access point
Enable wireless - ticked
Allow broadcast of name (SSID) - ticked
Wireless isolation - un-ticked
under Wireless Station Access List
Turn Access control on - ticked
I've added New Stations Manually and explicitly stated the mac addresses for each of the devices I want to allow access to
Apply these and go back to Wireless Settings
Security Options
WEP - radio button selected
WEP Security Encryption
Authentication Type - Automatic
Encryption Strength - 64 bit
WEP Key
Enter a Passphrase and click generate. This will generate 4 Hexedecimal keys. Select the key you want to use by clicking on the radio button. The key you select is used on your device when you set the device up to connect on the first occasion normally and they must be exactly the same!
Hope this helps you if not someone else! :wink:

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Thicko WLAN question

Right then, I don't know much about secure Wifi, so I've just changed my access point to not broadcast the SSID. So, how might I get my MDA Pro to learn about the SSID if it's not broadcast? Can someone please give me a "for dummies" guide to the LEAP thing as I don't have a clue
When I was broadcasting an SSID, it all worked perfectly, pretty much automatically.
I cheated, i set access point to broadcast ssid just whilst i put the JJ on it, once on i turned off ssid broadcasting.
its seemed a bit flakey when trying to add it in the leap settings page. i tried both open adn eap and then just decided it'll be quicker just to enable ssid for 2 mins.
This is hardware dependent, of course, but I set my wifi router up to only allow access from listed mac addresses. That, in addition to hiding ssid (once connected) and 128 bit wep is about enough to stop me getting the crawling heebie-jeebies.
They don't call me paranoid mike for nothing.
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you
this_mike said:
This is hardware dependent, of course, but I set my wifi router up to only allow access from listed mac addresses.
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Interesting, and I think my router will do this. How can I determine the MAC address of the MDA?
OK, the following is on a blue angel but I imagine that the principle should extend to WM05.
Firstly, get the wep setup and copy the (uppercase) key to your ppc via AS so you can broadcast your ssid with relatively few twitches D).
Start > Settings > Connections > WLAN, fire up wifi and connect to your access point - in WM2003SE this means checking a tick box (or ticking a checkbox). Once you're connected, you should be able to see the ssid, tx rate etc as well as the mac of your wifi adapter.
Additionally / alternatively, your wifi ap may tell you the macs of all connected devices. The smart person would check this first and make a note of any devices and use this as a cross-check.
HTH!
Hidding the ssid doesn't bring any security
- trust me -
...
The only way is to setup a basic WPA encryption. And you will be secure as long as you change the password on regular basis (every 1 or 2 months)
Avoid WEP encryption it's just crap and doesn't bring any security.
The SSID stuff and mac address filtering are just making you think that you are secure when you are not.
30sec to 5min max to decrypt WEP encryptions, less than 5 sec for mac address and SSID stuff.
works fine on mine and I don't broadcast ssid.
>start>settings>connections>network cards
>add new
type in your SSID as the network name
fill in the rest as per your setup
ok, there is no real security on wireless, but if we are all going to use it we may as well instigate all the security options we can. if there are 2 connections for a cruiser to access and 1 is easier than the other, I know what I would do....
WEP and above do provide security, at least if you don't want any old Johnny using your network.
So, use WEP or whatever security you have.
Hiding SSID literally just hides it. However, most hacking tools easily show the SSID anyway, so don't really on this. But, if you do hide the SSID, you have to set up the connection manually, typing in the name of the SSID and WEP key.
V
most hackers tools that show ssid will decrypt wep in less than 2min.
I was just pointing it out because
1- it's to consider when you're buying an Access Point
2- If you're using it with sensible website (bank account) and such (even to check your mail - using your credit card etc ...)
fair point...
I guess it would be unthoughtful of us to give the know how without also giving the gotchas
;-)
I have got a hidden SSID and the qtek is able to find the network after typing in the name, but it ist not able to connect.
I have already checked the MAC.
It gets the right IP but after few second it scans the network for another time and so it goes on

WiFi Connecttion

Hi Everybody!
I'm looking for some help with connecting to my home WiFi.
In settings, netwok card, I can see my home network.
I use a netgear router with WEP security.
I just can't seem to connect and I can't seem how to input my WEP acces passkey too?
Thanks for any replies
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In settings, wireless lan, advanced it states that I am connected to the network, but I still can't connect when using IE?
the message reads : " U~nable to obtain a server assigned IP address . . . etc"
Do you have DHCP enabled on the wireless router? Have you used the wireless network with another device?
Mmm, very good question!
The answer is "don't know". Will check and let you know Syn.
Will start again.now that I have managed to "flash my rom"
Well this is what I have :
Wireless Network
Name (SSID):
Region: --- Select Region ---AfricaAsiaAustraliaCanadaEuropeFranceIsraelJapanMexicoSouth AmericaUnited States
Channel: 01020304050607080910111213
Wireless Access Point
Enable Wireless Access Point
Allow Broadcast of Name (SSID)
Wireless Card Access List
Security Encryption (WEP)
Authentication Type: AutomaticOpen SystemShared Key
Encryption Strength: Disable64bit128bit
I have added the device to my wireless network list with the MAC address
Signal is VERY GOOD!!!
Am I missing out son some settings?
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I've tried to set up a new connection as Internet Explorer tells me it cannot connect with the current settings?
What settings do I need?
I have entered the WEP key, and I don't use passwords on my wifi system??
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Do I need an IP address?
Scutter
First things first, forget the PDA for few moments and lets establish what is going on with your AP. The question that [sYn] has asked is very important - do you have DHCP enabled on the AP. The answer you posted is meaningless as it only shows the options and not the current config. Interrogate the AP and look for where the LAN side DCHP option is and make sure it is set to ENABLE or ON or whatever positive indication is used.
Once you are sure this is configured (ideally tested with a PC) then go get your PDA and try connecting again. If it still doesn't work disable all the security and encryption settings and turn off that stupid MAC address authentication which, by the way, is pointless. If needs be do a factory reset on the AP. With no security enabled try conecting the PDA. It more than likely will connect now. Once it does start building up your security one layer at a time making sure you test at each stage. Can I suggest that you forget WAP and MAC authentication and use a WPA Pre-Shared Key instead as this provides bucket loads more security.
Hope this helps.
JT, thanks for all your help!
I use a netgear router. Whilst awaiting a reply here I did a bit of research and took of the security of my router. I then connected my device using a shared key (I have always had this) and then put the security back on.
I had to reconnect my laptop too. I think the reason isthat the router was set for an automatic setting and I chaned this to an open system.
THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP !!!
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WM6 + Wifi - WPA+TKIP

I have a wifi router at my office - Netgear, I am using WPA-TKIP as security options, the problem i am facing is - i have setup a passphrase on the router, but on phone, it just asks for network key, i need a way to enter a pass phrase, are there any updates to wifi for WM6 which can help me to get out of this situation?
I cannot change my existing WIFI settings on router, my other machines and devices are using the same configuration and now if i change it to WEP or something else, i will have to upload all other machines.
I cannot move to an open system as well.
please help
wpa without wpa-psk wont protect your network from being used by other ppl. i suggest u to choose wpa-psk (pre-shared-key). u choose a password and it is easy to setup for the other clients on your wireless lan. just enter password one time on the other clients and they are online. and wpa-psk works with wm6. greetz spaxxi
Where it says Network Key is where you enter the passphrase as used on your router.
On my SPV E650 (vox) I have WPA-PSK with data encryption set to TKIP
Use IEE 802.1x network access control box ticked and EAP type as smart card or certificate.
Also I have set networks to access as All available but on my netgear under wirless settings I have set up enable access list with the mac of the phone (which you can get from connection settings or with wirless on the phone switched on the router should detect the mac from phone broadcast which you can then accept as a trusted station.
This means only my phone can connect to the router even though my ssid is broadcast.
Hope that helps.
MrMond
the sip client you have works
w pa-st k is the best most efficient way to run and your net gear has 3 different ways in but the paraphrase is fine. use the para phrase where it says key go right through it, if i recall the client has ports but ur going direct you dont need it. Your just and to log into your router regular client is for web based app go right at the router use wififofum and then just make sure your sip is on meaning registry is live dont worry about the settings. Let me try to make sense all next ell are voip just an ip i don't care what anyone says. your do not need a web based sip just leave the sip alone but try activating it remember it a phone turn it on but 1 thing give out static ips u will succeed. static wpa-stk intra net ur just taking to the device no need for any barriers. you could hook up computer up slap head phones and a mic in the analog jacks from the 80's and you have no succeeded in ? Voip. all that matters is the router is set right and sees only you for the duration of your call. Most likely wil end up turning that whit wpn8xxx into a access point have fun don't ask. But it only took me 3 hours to realize i left to come back into my office for what a paid for call. And the day wireless is everywhere i will be a lan expert.
ciao good luck don't orry just look at it and you will see what makes sense.

Network Key Required

I have a wireless network at home that is secured by WPA-PSK. When I access the wireless network on my phone it says a network key is required and I enter it. The wi-fi will work for a few minutes and then it will ask me to enter the network key again. Does anyone know how to store the password so I don't have to enter it every time I use my wi-fi at home, or a way to stop it from continually asking me for the password?
This is a strange behavior. Normally the password is saved automatically, in fact once a network is detected all its settings are automatically saved and there is no manual option to do it.
Unfortunately I never heard of such problem before so I have no idea what could be causing it.
Hi,
Very strange behaviour indeed! Anyway, let's see what we can do for you here.
It appears that you have not configured the network key on your network. If you had, this would have permanently stored it for you and not keep asking you for the key as though you were trying to piggy-back on someone's network.
Now, you wouldn't do that, would ya? War driving is against the law over here in the UK.
Here's what to do:
1. Enable WiFi
2. Start->Settings->Connections->WiFi
3. Click on your own specific network
4. Click - Next
5. 'Configure Network Authentication' screen appears
6.
Authentication: WPA-PSK
Data Encryption: AES
The key is automatically provided: blank (i.e. unticked).
Network key : xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (you MUST enter it here by yourself)
Key index: blank (i.e. unticked)
7. Click Next
Use IEEE 802.1x network access control: ticked (automatically, by the system)
8. Click Finish.
9. Soft reset your device for the settings to take effect.
.......and voila! no more network key questions.
Hope this helps.
kiwi992.
Well that didn't work...it's still doing the same thing
Hi,
Hmm........ What next? I ask.
This time, we'd have to concentrate on your router settings. This seems to be the culprit since everything in the device is configured exactly as we discussed in the last posting.
Did you use Windows to configure your wireless connection settings for you or did you configure it manually, using the CD that came with your router? I did the latter for better control.
If you used Windows, then navigate to: Start->Control Panel->Network and Internet Connections->Setup or change your Internet connection.
If you used the CD that came with your router to configure it, then look towards the bottom right of your PC or laptop and you will see a dark green icon which says (e.g.) 'Netgear WN511B is connected to........' Click on it to ensure that the security is set to WPA2-PSK[AES] and that the network key is entered manually.
Either way, please:
1. Check your router settings to ensure that it has not been set to prompt for network key.
2 Ensure that the network key is NOT automatically supplied by the gateway. If the radio button is ticked in your configuration, un-tick it.
3. Check your Windows Network and Internet Connections settings if you've used windows to configure it.
I am using the same security as well as encryption and I don't have such problem.
Hope this helps.
kiwi992.
throwing in my two cents...
kiwi992 said:
Hi,
Hmm........ What next? I ask.
This time, we'd have to concentrate on your router settings. This seems to be the culprit since everything in the device is configured exactly as we discussed in the last posting.
Did you use Windows to configure your wireless connection settings for you or did you configure it manually, using the CD that came with your router? I did the latter for better control.
If you used Windows, then navigate to: Start->Control Panel->Network and Internet Connections->Setup or change your Internet connection.
If you used the CD that came with your router to configure it, then look towards the bottom right of your PC or laptop and you will see a dark green icon which says (e.g.) 'Netgear WN511B is connected to........' Click on it to ensure that the security is set to WPA2-PSK[AES] and that the network key is entered manually.
Either way, please:
1. Check your router settings to ensure that it has not been set to prompt for network key.
2 Ensure that the network key is NOT automatically supplied by the gateway. If the radio button is ticked in your configuration, un-tick it.
3. Check your Windows Network and Internet Connections settings if you've used windows to configure it.
I am using the same security as well as encryption and I don't have such problem.
Hope this helps.
kiwi992.
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Hi Kiwi392 and CapitanOats25:
I've been working to resolve a similar problem with WEP, and learned something I thought might help in this case: On my router, a NetGear WGR 614 v.6, when I enable WAP PSK I get an entry field labeled "Key Lifetime." By default mine is set for 60 minutes, but you can set it for longer. Perhaps that is the problem?
I hope that helps.

New Touch Diamond 2 Wifi Wont Connect

Hi Guys & Gals,
I have a brand new HTC Touch Diamond 2, on O2 network - this is an untouched device, all i have done is booted it up and sync'd it with my PC,
I have tried to connect the device to to wireless networks now with no luck.
1. My home connection - security enabled WPA-PSK password protected, The phone can see the network, i type in my network key - i also checked the password on my router setup. The little spinning circle comes up and try's to connect with no luck. It will then keep trying for as long as the wireless is on
2. Home connection again with no encription - again the same thing
3. Work connection WEP secured, type in the key, same thing again.
Has anyone encountered these sorts of problems before in the past - if so how do i fix it so i can connect wirelessly.
Cheers Guys
JdeRonde
Doubt if this is an issue with the phone more likely to be a setup of the wireless.
What router do you use?
Do you have MAC Filtering enabled?
Do you use your router as a DHCP server?
Are there any error messages displayed on the phone?
When it doesnt connect and you tap the notification area (top bar to the right of START) do you have any messages there?
jderonde said:
Hi Guys & Gals,
I have a brand new HTC Touch Diamond 2, on O2 network - this is an untouched device, all i have done is booted it up and sync'd it with my PC,
I have tried to connect the device to to wireless networks now with no luck.
1. My home connection - security enabled WPA-PSK password protected, The phone can see the network, i type in my network key - i also checked the password on my router setup. The little spinning circle comes up and try's to connect with no luck. It will then keep trying for as long as the wireless is on
2. Home connection again with no encription - again the same thing
3. Work connection WEP secured, type in the key, same thing again.
Has anyone encountered these sorts of problems before in the past - if so how do i fix it so i can connect wirelessly.
Cheers Guys
JdeRonde
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I too had problems with WIFI. My home work network was visible but it would immediately drop or not be able to connect. A few days later it started working flawlessly and I have no idea what changed.
I am sure you have tried a soft reset but just in case...
Tony
I have a NetGear DG(Some Number) v4 ADSL wireless router, which i have set up and works for all of my other devices (ie. Laptops, PS3). With a simple encription key.
I get no messages etc, all it sais is that its 'not connected' and there are no new notificatons
It then persists in trying to connect again and again, when it cant connect for a while, it then comes up with 'new network connections found' in the notificatins area.
I have switched the power mode to best performance with no luck.
I have tried on 2 different networks now. including with all encription off. WEP and WPA-PSK - This is driving me nutz cuz i love the phone, i just want to use it to browse the web without paying out the nose for it.
DHCP server is dynamic from my ISP.
I have contacted HTC now about the issue, but im going to feel so stupid if it turns out to be somthing simple like a setting on the phone somewhere.
But thanks for the reply
Have you checked you arn't using MAC filtering?
Log-in to your router and check under Wireless settings > Wireless Station Access List.
While you are on your wireless setting page check what Encryption your using for WPA-PSK? TKIP? (The wrong encryption chosen will cause you not to be able to connect)
Ok maybe telling you how to suck eggs but on your phone:
Settings > Communication > Wifi
Select Advanced at the bottom right.
Select Change Network
Click Add new...
Type in the name of your network (The SSID also found under wireless settings, Case sensitive)
Select Connects to: The Internet
Leave the other two boxes unticked.
Click next.
Select the correct Authentication - WPA-PSK is different to WPA2-PSK. You will probably be using WPA-PSK.
Select the correct Encryption (Propably TKIP)
And type in your Network Key
Click Next and Finish.
How does this fair and what are the results of checking info on wireless setting page?
Im at work at the moment trying to connect to the WEP connection,
This connection most deffinatly does not have mac filtering on it, just asked the network tech.
Okies.....
Changed the network key to.... Shared key and it works
so i am guessing that it must be somthing to do with my setup at home..
Cheers guys
Cool.
Just match up the Authentication / Encryption / SSID and Network Key from the router to your phone setup and you should be fine.
HTC TD2 Wifi issues
Hi
There's some discussion around the web about this problem of encrypted wifi connectivity: a few things to note
1] the TD2 is _very_ sensitive to the power settings applied to the wifi chipset.
The default power saving settings are only likely to work if all other on-board devices - bluetooth, HSDPA, GPS [and maybe even the screen] are either off or in low power mode: the general recommendation seems to be that one adjusts the wifi device power to be "best performance" if one wants to guarantee connections.
2] several people have reported that both the wifi device [card] and the settings for the particular wifi lan [SSID] to which you are attempting to connect should both be configured for "Work" rather than "The Internet".
3] these secured/encrypted connection failures are not about the WiFi access point or router: I've personally tested with several different makes and models of Router and Access Point [3com, Cisco, Enterasys, Netgear, DLink, Belkin etc] - both on my own and on client networks where I have complete control of security, and have also methodically tested every single combination of TD2 setting for WEP and all variants of WPA. In each case my TD2 has failed to make a valid encrypted connection.
The same device will happily connect to "open" unencrypted access points and routers.
Other models of HTC device, such as the Tytyn II and Touch Pro work fine on the same access points and routers: so we can be pretty sure that this is specifically a TD2 issue.
Conversations with HTC's European Tech Support on this issue have not been helpful to date, but they HAVE pushed the issue further up the line, so there's a chance that we'll see a resolution.
Robert

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