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T-Mobile Rom.... Can't do anything else... Help

Since updating to the T-Mobile Rom for my XDA, nearly everythiung has gone wrong.
And when I tried to downgrade it.... Nothing happens.
I used to use a modified Program A to upload it to my phone but it continues to say that the USB devide gets remotely stopped. the only thing that I can think is that my phone is cancelling the upgrade/downgrade.
I have also tried using a copy of the XDATools program to try and:
Upload another Rom.
Copy the rom to an SD card so I can use the bootloader method.
Change the Bootloader so I can use the SD card method.
None of there are working.
Help :-(
I really want to go back to the ATT rom, it might have the annoying thing with the sound but at least it doesn't mess up as much, doesn't format my SD/MMC cards and lets the alarms actually work for me.

if i'm not wrong, it seems you upgraded using the TMO exe file which updated both ROM & RSU.
check ur boot loader version, if it's 5.22 or higher, i think you need to dowgrade to 5.15 ... use the exe file that comes with the XDAtools in the binaries directory .. its name is fixbootloader.exe .. it should update ur boot loader to 5.15 by which you can use XDAtools or the SD method.

Tried that. I do have XDA tools on my machine and used that program but my CDA still has the bootleader of 5.22
And both of my machines don't like trying to update my XDA :-(
This Rom is the most annoying one I have tried mainly becaise now I can't go back to even my original one that I backed from the XDA when I got it.
Am I stuck with this ROM?

omg, i think i am having the same problem. In my case, since ive installed the new rom, i cannot sync with activesync, well very slow anyway. Activesync on my pc stops responding for a while and suddenly it says connected. However when i then run the executable created by the kitchen, it just flashes a command line window for a second.
When I try XDA-toolz with an nbf file, i get the following message:
ERROR: GetConnectionType - An existing connection was forcibly closed by the rem
ote host.
error getting connectiontype
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Please someone help, because i am really stuck now.

I checked, my bootloader is 5.14, so that shouldnt be the problem, perhaps i need to reinstall activesync, or perhaps lumpistefans kitchen cooks up bad roms. :?:

Nothing wrong with any kitchen ROMs so far ... when ActiveSynce can't recognize the XDA then it's either a PC problem which uninstall/reinstall will solve it ... or it's a wrong RSU update.
The best option so far in case it's a wrong RSU is to copy the proper RSU upgrade (4 files) to the SD card ... insert the SD card into the XDA and copy those 4 files to the \windows\startup directory ... then soft rest.
If the RSU flash works fine the ActiveSync will recognize the XDA again then you can preform a new ROM update
Note: RSU flashing is risky ... do this action on your own responsibility!!

Biso007 said:
Nothing wrong with any kitchen ROMs so far ... when ActiveSynce can't recognize the XDA then it's either a PC problem which uninstall/reinstall will solve it ... or it's a wrong RSU update.
The best option so far in case it's a wrong RSU is to copy the proper RSU upgrade (4 files) to the SD card ... insert the SD card into the XDA and copy those 4 files to the \windows\startup directory ... then soft rest.
If the RSU flash works fine the ActiveSync will recognize the XDA again then you can preform a new ROM update
Note: RSU flashing is risky ... do this action on your own responsibility!!
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I dont understand how i can have a wrong rsu? I didnt update it , as far as i know , i just updated the pda part. I only saw programme A.
Activesync does recognise my xda, because i can synchronize and explore my device. It does however take a long time before activesync sees the device after its connected. It also stops responding when its connecting, for a few minutes. I tried reinstalling activesync, this didnt help.

prowling said:
ActiveSync does recognise my XDA, because i can synchronize and explore my device. It does however take a long time before ActiveSync sees the device after its connected. It also stops responding when its connecting, for a few minutes. I tried reinstalling ActiveSync, this didnt help.
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If there is something wrong with the RSU it will defeinitly slow the USB performance, not neceassary by wrong RSU flashing ... otherwise, check the pins of your cradle or the 22-pin connector of the XDA ... maybe one or more pins are bent or weared.

Tried upgrading the radiop stack and although the reception is slightly better... It still won't let me upload,
and its a new cable too :-(
Oh well looks like I am stuck with it.

Another way to upgrade firmware
Are there other ways to upgrade the bootloader from SD card from within the device or even to upgrade the OS from within the phone itself?
You know... as a last alternative?

You can use SD reader/writer from the PC using XDAtools ... once the .nbf file is on the SD card, use the normal SD flashing method.
Or you can use another XDA device from a friend to copy the file to your SD card

I am having the same problem. I have TMO 4.01.16 and since I installed I can't down/upgrade my ROM through EXE or XDA tools, it says my device isn't connected, but I can still connect with Active Sync and all that jazz

ha ha
I can fix all your problems!

How?

Finally got it to work, Although it was a little bit of effort to do so.
I went back to the kitchen and downloaded a NB1 cooked rom with the "B" Signature. Then I basically ran the TMobile Setup again...
Once the setup files were on my computer I overwrote their .NB1 file with the one I just cooked.
But.... I forgot to change the file for the Radio Stack.
The machine worked except for the phone and as something is still stopping me. *it was my first reboot* It wouldn't let me use a new radio stack.
Ended up that i kept on going in to the bootloader and eventually turned my radio off altoghether before trying an update.
Now I am back to a decent rom... (Cooked and modded version of the ATT Wireless rom) and I am almost really happy.
Now to figure out how to stop the annoying sounds starting off really low.
But til then... I'm 90% happy

Thespus2002 said:
How?
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Use the Sd Method flashing!!
Tmobile roms won't let you upgrade from the usb, here's the link and it will guide you how to flash your device from the SD good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274

The way I described.. I had to use the USB method.
my current bootloader (6.22) will not allow me to boot from an SD card.
And XDATools will not allow me to downgrade it... Yet

on ur PC at \xdatools\binaries run this command: pnewbootloader.exe bootloader_5_15.nb0

Wish it was that easy. The phone still appears to be locked in the rom so I can't update the Bootloader. I keep getting a message that says.
Unable to flash in to offset, cannotg disable bootloader write protect.

i want to downgrade from the wm2003 upgrade to the o2 rom

Ok, i konw there's already been several threads here about downgrading from the wm2003 rom (4.01.16ENG from the rom kitchen to be precise) but i can't seem to get this thing anywhere... as i said i upgraded the rom to the one specified above and found it far slower and unstable than the ppc2002; I wanted to flash the xda with the old rom but there's this strange communicate saying that the connection has been suddenly closed and the "programme a" stops. i tried to flash the old rom directly to the device using the xdatools but also with no success... it keeps on saying that it couln't communicate with the remote application... well then i thought about this bootloader fix (still unsure what bootloadre i have because i can't get the info anywhere) and it said that the memory on the device is write protected.... :/ well, and as for now i am waiting for a sd card to try that, but.... tell me, will the xdatools prepare the card if i insert it into the device? (i have no card reader for my pc) i am woried because each action i take (except normal device usage - activesync, copying and moving files, installing appz) that messes with the roms, shuts down the connection and i have to unplug the device from my pc and plug it again... please help me, i'm in dire need!

I am having a similar problem with the same rom version. I wish i never used that version! I did an update to wm2003 earlier and i could go back and forth with no problems, but this one is a real nasty one!!
the message i get when using osimagetool:
ERROR: GetConnectionType - An existing connection was forcibly closed by the rem
ote host.
error getting connectiontype

I am having the same problem ..
and when i power on/off the device it says (Unrecognized Card)
Enter the name of the device for this card. For information, see the card manufacturer's documentation.
and there is a place where i can write something (Unknown card in socket 1)

m112a said:
I am having the same problem ..
and when i power on/off the device it says (Unrecognized Card)
Enter the name of the device for this card. For information, see the card manufacturer's documentation.
and there is a place where i can write something (Unknown card in socket 1)
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YES!!! Same here!!
How about the phone? I cannot seem to turn it on. When the pin screen comes up it says i should turn on the phone, but i cant dothat anywhere..

Hi All,
The best option for ROM upgrade is always the SD method ... it's much easier and safer. XDAtools doesn't work with some ROMs because of the boot loader version not the ROM itself.

So what do you say guys? will i be able to downgrade it from the sd card? - and first of all, prepare the card having it inserted into the xda itself and using xdatools? i also wish i had never used it, the newest ppc2002 rom from o2 is just soo cool comparing to the wm2003 one i'm stuck with right now...

XDA 1 not working

Hi,
I was upgrading the software upgarde on my device. I successfully upgraded the Pocket PC software on the O2 XDA, but when I tried to upgrade the GSM radio/GPRS software of the O2 XDa, it gave some error and after this my device is not starting at all. The only mistake I did was that "I did not remove the SIM card before upgrading the GSM radio/GPRS software" The device does not start even after cold booting the same. When I start the device, the O2 screen comes and after a quite long time the main window does come but I cannot do anything. I tried to tap on contacts, time, tasks but nothing happens. I can see the windows logo wall paper but cannot do anything. Please help on how I can restore back my O2 as a cold reset also does not work. :?
Thanks and Regards
Jinesh

There's many topics about your question in the forum. Search it! Try to search with this keywords: 1% error, repair.zip

There's many topics about your question in the forum. Search it! Try to search with this keywords: 1% error, repair.zip

Hi,
I have tried all the available options but it still does not work. To restore the ROM how do I get access to the O2 cause niether serial nor USB is detecting it.
Please help.
regards
Jinesh

SD card install guide
Ok here you go, its a little outdated but its what I still use:
Qman's how to use XDArit to write nk.nb1 or nk.nbf to your SD card aka the Bootloader Method!
1. Place XDArit and the nk.nb1 or nk.nbf file in the same folder and start XDArit.
2. Select your SD card (disk drive) from the drop down menu.
3. Select Write to SD
Notice that the Windows CE box is already checked so just click the browse button at the end of that window.
4. Select your (nk.nb1 or nk.nbf) image and then Open
Notice by default XDArit will open looking for a *.nb1 file but if you're going to use a .nbf file you'll have to manually change the "Files of Type" to *.nbf
Notice that nk.nbo / nk.nbo was automatically added as your boot-loader and its check box is unchecked so leave it that way and click OK. XDArit should start writing to the card.
When XDArit has finished writing the image put the SD-card into the XDA and hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
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Thanks Chief, I will try out and let you know.
regards
Jinesh

Hi Rudegar,
I tried the procedure given by you. I was able to write to the flash successfully. After writing to the flash it gave a message "Checksum OK, Please cold reboot to reset".
I did a cold reboot. After starting the O2, it showed the O2 logo screen and after quite a long time, it asked me wether I want to format the SD card or not. After that it took me to the default screen of XDA wher eit showed options like "Add today's date, Contacts, Schedule etc etc. but upon tapping any of the options the O2 behaves erratically. If I tap on today's date it takes me somewhere else. Inshort it does not work.
I again did a cold reboot and now the device is in its original position i.e not going after the O2 logo where it gets stuck up.
One thing I would like to mention is that all these activities have been done putting the O2 on the cardle only as the battery is totally discharged and the device turns on only after putting it on cradle. Even after the cold reboot it does not start unless I put it on the cradle whichis connected to the mains. Is it Ok with this or am I doing something wrong? The battery does not charge and hence I have to do it in this way.
Please suggest what wrong am I doing? Any suggestions from anyone will be welcome.
regards
Jinesh

Hi,
Someone posted the original O2 ROM on this site and I downloaded the same after which I was partially succesful in flashing the ROM and reviving my dead O2 back to half life. :roll:
I burned the ROM on
to my SD Card and flashed the ROM on to my O2. After
successfully flashing the ROM I rebooted the device.
The device now starts Windows but it takes atleast 15
minutes to start. I get the today screen. WHen I cick
on start the start menu appears after a delay of 10
seconds and all applications run normal, however all
this happens only on the Cradle only.
When I go into the Battery Settings it shows "Battery
Status Unknown".
Also none of the phone functions work. The SIM card is
not recognized and in device information it does
dispaly the "IMEI number" and the "Protocl Version"
I am only able to use inbuilt phone applications.
Is there some problem with my battery cause it is not
charging even on the cradle.
Device Information does not show Radio Version, Protocl Version & IMEI number at all.
Can anyone please help me?

hello all,
it means that your radio stack are dead. Currently, We don't have any real method to fix this problem. When the radio stack is error, you can not upgrade it or do anything to make it work. We can only upgrade or downgrade the radio stack if it works. Also if you try to upgrade the radio stack, we realy need to flash the chip using a speceial tool or need the sd card which build in radio stack with we can only flash in bootloaading mode. Howerver, in some case, we can fix it but .... I think it is just lucky or the xda error when battery problem.... in this case, just disconnect the battery few minutes and connect it again by pressing the battery hole.
Regards,
Hoanghon
p.s. I have dead xda. I killed it when I upgraded the RADIO STACK. Therefore, if you are really need to upgrade the radio stack, I recommend use the official upgrade for secuirity. or just upgrade the rom only.
Note:
To eliminating the error, you need to upgrade the rom or the radio stack, you need to check if the rom fix the radio stack or the stack you are trying to upgrade it fix the rom or not.(ie, Tmobile Rom have to use it radio stack built for Tmobile pocket pc...... I know that in some case when we mix between the radio stack and OS it works but I don't think it work propertly. Anyhow the mixing bettween radio stack and OS is very dangerous if it doesn't suppport then you have to reflash the radio stack or rom(the OS is Okay but the keep upgrading the radio stack may cause the radio stack killed)

WE NEED SERIAL CABLE FOR PDA ANY HELP PLS!!!
Hi Jineshd we
have the same problem and we are sure that the only way is to do SD uptade
and U said U have a serial cable to Yours device. With that we can be able to download flash gsm rom from working device and put it back via SD card to ours. Pls tell me where can I get a serial cable or some schema how to prepare it and I will try to repair ours dead pdas. Its our only chance
rgds
Lukasz

Hi,
Thanks all for the replies.
Can anyone tell me how doI repair the radio stack?
Regards
Jinesh

no way without having special RSU rom update on SD card and run it from bootloader or dissembling the device and reprograming GSM rom on special rom/bios programing socket. (Here on forum is user Cgigate from Toronto CA who can do it but I cant contact him)

Big problem

Hi
I am new here and i have problem
When i turn on my qtek9000, i recieve message Serial V.100.
If i connect USB cable it displays USB instead of Serial.
This happened when i tried to do radio upgrade (through usb hub, sim and sd were also in phone...).
I have 1gb SD card and also card reader mounted in laptop, so transfering files should not be problem.
Can someone help me with step-by-step procedure how to make my qtek work back. I used a lot of search but i am even more confused....
I just remember that when qtek worked Radio was something like 1.0.3.1 and also WWE was writen somewhere....
Probably i should put rom to sd with ntrw (which wersion of both),.......
please help....

might be a dumb question on my part - but have you tried a reset (initially a soft one but then a hard one of course, if nothing else works...) ???
I mean you will at least be able to revert back to the condition 'out of the package'...
Hope everything works out!

jup.both things NOT HELPED

looks like you're stuck in the bootloader mode....
try flashing the rom & the radio rom once again by connecting it to your laptop's usb...
i guess something screwed up while you were upgraging your radio rom...and you'd need to redo it!
Best,
San

can you please write me a procedure?

You might want to check the following thread. Everything is well described.
Cheers
hrb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32725

i am trying to download files but i get permission denied all the time

You mean you get an error when clicking this link ?
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/Universal
I don't understand that, it works perfectly well for me
Cheers
hrb

I have solved problem with Radio upgrade. I am in much better mood now. 8)
Anyway i have 4 more questions.
1.) I am using bluetooth car-instalation Parrot CK3100. I am wondering if is possible to transfer any other sound except telephone conversations to that device. When i had Nokia 9500 i was able to hear every single click,tone,...i made on phone also on car-instalation. I also heard nokia ringtone in car instalation.With qtek i am getting generic car-instalation ringing tone instead of phone ringing. Otherwise primary intention (hands free talking) works fine. I would like to have that to be able to hear voices from various GPS software.
2.) Since QTEK9000 is PDA and phone in single unit I would like to have in car GPS application "always on top". Like previously mentioned i can easily manage my calls with car-instalation. Therefore i would like to run Phone section in background or GPS applications on top.I hope you will understand what i would like to say
3.) I also need in-car holder for qtek. Do you have any reccomendations?
4.)
My settings:
R: 1.04.02
G: 42.37.P8
D: 1.13.64.WWE
Is that ok or should i upgrade?

Stuck in bootloader mode
Hi guys,
Got stuck in bootloader mode following an upgrade attempt. Tried to reflash radio using the files from the pload folder only to get an error saying it's for the wrong device - tried this several times with the same result.
any ideas?
Is there a binary and a tool I can just do a straight upload?
thanks

Re: Stuck in bootloader mode
Bauser_uk said:
Hi guys,
Got stuck in bootloader mode following an upgrade attempt. Tried to reflash radio using the files from the pload folder only to get an error saying it's for the wrong device - tried this several times with the same result.
any ideas?
Is there a binary and a tool I can just do a straight upload?
thanks
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try it with this file -
1. put radio.nbf and the file attached below in the same folder and run the exe with ur device connected to usb in bootloader mode...
2. hope it flashes it
S

Thanks DreamTheater
Thanks for your help - unfortunately I got the same message, ie this rom is not meant for this device etc...
Will see O2 can do anything (who's that laughing...???) - was going to buy a new xda mini anyway...!

1. REMOVE your SD/MMC card.
2. Soft/hard reset.
3. Run the upgarde again.
Step 1 above solved my problem.

Softick Card Export II version 2.11! Now working on Wizard!

read more: http://www.softick.com/news.html#83

Re: Softick Card Export II version 2.11! Now working on Wiza
dddrko said:
read more: http://www.softick.com/news.html#83
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It still makes my wizard to lock up...

Re: Softick Card Export II version 2.11! Now working on Wiza
bolasz said:
dddrko said:
read more: http://www.softick.com/news.html#83
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It still makes my wizard to lock up...
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It works for my 838.. I have lockup and unable to switch to SDcard mode only if I connected to my PC and activesync once and unplug. But that seems to be the activesync issue in my 838 which fail to free itself from unplug from PC. So it cannot switch to SDcard mode..and prompt me an error message.
I have already switch to AS4.1 but does not improve my situation.
What is Microsoft doing here?? :roll: A soft reset is the only way to get my device syncup again.. :x

I own this program since I had my XDA mini ...
finally I can use it again to copy some files to my pda and use it as a memory stick...
I also noticed some problems:
1. after I connect the USD cable and the PC recognized my pda as a memory stick, Windows XP asked me to make a reboot in order to be able to use the new 'harddrive'
2. after I copied a .jpg to my pda it looked like the storage card is no longer recognized by WM5. The icons of the shortcuts to programs I installed are missing and I cannot browse with TotalCommander to my storage card.
After disconnecting the USD cable, my storage card could be found again - is this a bug or a feature?!
After the first connect in mode 'Card Export' I switched to 'Active Sync' and the synching went on without any problems.
After agains swithing to mode 'Card Export' my Wizard gave an error message, as follows:
"Cannot switch between Card Export and Active Sanc modes. This may be because of missing dlls or corrupted registry entries."
This looks also to me like an incompatibility between card export and active sync.
Hmpf ... rebootet the phone and connected - voila - my Wizard was again properly verified as Memory Stick and I again could upload another .jpg to my device.
It looks definately unfinished ... but it is working quite acceptable to me, though there is a lot room for improvement, it will get the job done, if I need a memory stick 'on the go'.
My device is a HTC Wizard, O2 german.

i may be wrong on the second point, but activesync alters a file when you transfer it to the pda,
so if you transfer a file to the card (even using a card reader) then put the card back in the pda wm5 will not recognise it properly.
point 1 should only happen the first time of detection.

have no problem with my XDA II...

Chris09 said:
After agains swithing to mode 'Card Export' my Wizard gave an error message, as follows:
"Cannot switch between Card Export and Active Sanc modes. This may be because of missing dlls or corrupted registry entries."
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I am experiencing the same... Please update this topic if you'll find a solution.

i'm having the missing dlls dialog problem too.
I noticed that once you activesync'ed, you can't switch to card mode and need to reboot the device.
However, mine can't seem to work anymore. It won't even switch. But I also tried disabling my today's screen (pocket plus and pocket breeze) and it works... but only the icon manage to change. My PC can't detect it as a mass storage device though.
Any luck?

Mine is working fine, I got that dll message once but a soft reset fixed it.

Just wondering what roms are you guys using that works with softick? I'm using rom version 1.6.7.1 WWE which doesn't seem to work. I tried hard reset and install softick on the first reboot. The computer detected a new hardware but failed to install the device.

vmirage said:
Just wondering what roms are you guys using that works with softick? I'm using rom version 1.6.7.1 WWE which doesn't seem to work. I tried hard reset and install softick on the first reboot. The computer detected a new hardware but failed to install the device.
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I get exact problem, detects a HTC device, trys to load the USB Mass Storage Device, hang for a short period and then in Device Manager show up with a problem. Fails to install or display drive letter for SD Card in phone. Have tried everything, happens on XP and Windows 2000 PCs, tried various PC's, same problem.
Can anyone help
p.s - I have the T-Mobile MDA Vario phone, same as imate-kjam I believe.

eilz said:
vmirage said:
Just wondering what roms are you guys using that works with softick? I'm using rom version 1.6.7.1 WWE which doesn't seem to work. I tried hard reset and install softick on the first reboot. The computer detected a new hardware but failed to install the device.
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I get exact problem, detects a HTC device, trys to load the USB Mass Storage Device, hang for a short period and then in Device Manager show up with a problem. Fails to install or display drive letter for SD Card in phone. Have tried everything, happens on XP and Windows 2000 PCs, tried various PC's, same problem.
Can anyone help
p.s - I have the T-Mobile MDA Vario phone, same as imate-kjam I believe.
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Same here too!! using ver 2.12
ver 2.11 worked fine with me, so most probably I will downgrade to it now.
I emailed the tech support and waiting for their reply. I will post it here in case I get anything new.

I just tried v2.12, and it didn't work. I found v2.11 on some download site, and installed it. v2.11 worked fine on Qtek's 2.8.7.1 ROM.

I cant get this to work either using 2.12. I get the device manager problem as mentioned previously. Does anyone know where can i get 2.11 from?
found it here:
http://www.softick.com/files/CardExportPPC211c-softick-en.zip
but i get the same problem

You can find previous versions in the "download" section on the left.
I'm having the same issues, used to work fine with 2.11, then it stopped being able to write but could still read (this is on my Mac), and now with 2.12 I can't even get the thing to mount. I'm talking with the developer to see if we can get a fix.

Any 2.12 and 2.11 not working for me... My computer and three others shows me message that they don't have drivers

I posted a query on their forum.
Heres their reply:
http://softick-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=35#35

pewe said:
I posted a query on their forum.
Heres their reply:
http://softick-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=35#35
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I'm a bit confused regarding their reply.
You asked a question about the Wizard and they replied saying they are waiting on delivery of HTC Universal to examine it better. I'm not sure what the Universal has to do with compatibilty for the Wizard as they are completely different devices with different hardware. (Mybe i'm wrong and the hardware components that Card Export uses is actually the same on both devices)

Puckster -
I noticed this on second look, and asked for clarification.

just want to inform everyone that there is a free alternative. it's similar to softick card export that it turns your device into a plug-and-play card reader. it's called wm5torage (yes, the number '5' is the letter 'S')
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45411&highlight=wm5torage
it does not have the system tray icon that enables you to switch between activesync and export mode, but rather you open the app in your accessories folder and activate/deactivate it from there.
but hey, it's free and it works