I noticed in a process viewer that I have :
aPermanent.exe
cPermanent.exe
nPermanent.exe
tPermanent.exe
I would assume these are for permanent saves? If not, does anyone know what they are used for? If I haven't enabled permanent saves, would it be dangerous to kill off these processes and perhaps registry edit to prevent them from running?
Since these processes are constantly running, it would save 4 processes slots .
Thanks!
You are right!
T=Tasks
C=Contacts
A=Appointments
N=Notes
Related
On MemMaid / Running Processess, which one to close and which one to not.
Let me know as I really don't know which ones to shut down
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Confused. Why are you trying to close processes? To optimize performance?
Yes, for faster optimization.
scoundrel: the better strategy, for optimisation, is to first find out why those apps are opening. Check your startup folder, services etc, notifications, and remove apps that shouldn't be necessary.
Killing them is not a good form of optimisation, you will waste memory from dead apps etc.
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I have seen lots of posts that explain how to close running programs,
and how to get memory back.
But I would like to know how I can let software run continuously
in the background.
I put the exe. of the program it in my start-up folder, and after a reset the program runs.
But sometimes during the day I close all other running software, to get
back memory. But when I do, I forget to startup the one that needs to
run in the background continuously.
Can someone please explain how to let it run continuously, without
accidentally closing it ?
tnx.
Is there really no-one here that knows how to do it ?
winny said:
Is there really no-one here that knows how to do it ?
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It depends which soft you're using to close the whole set of running applications. Some of those applications managers have an option where you can put exceptions, so when you call the close all functionality, all the excluded apps won't be closed.
Cheers,
.Fred
or if u use vbar make ur program active and use the "close all axcept active" option...
How are you closing these apps?
As by default Windows Mobile keeps every app running in the backround (and is why you see so much talk about how to <i>really</i> close applications).
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How are you closing these apps?
As by default Windows Mobile keeps every app running in the backround (and is why you see so much talk about how to <i>really</i> close applications).
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Windows mobile just minimize them. In order to close them, you have to post a WM_CLOSE to the main window of an application. This should in most cases be enough to close an app.
Cheers,
.Fred
tnx guys for your help.
I use Wisbar, but I am not sure if there is an option in it to exclude
a program. I will look into it and see if it works.
I was also thinking about making a change in the registry to
keep the software moving.
As I am not a tech-guy, I do not know if this makes sense.
So forgive me, if this sounds stupid.
Having quite the same problem, just another exe - the CardAutoRun.exe, just another device, a Prophet; see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278672
I also have a TaskMangager, but there CardAutoRun is not visible at all - and I very seldomly use it to close *all* applications.
Yesterday I did a soft reset, after which the CardAutoRun worked for two tests with two different cards - then I simply switched off my Prophet (sent it to sleep), switched on again - and the next SDcard inserted didn't autostart (as it _did_ just before off/on).
Obviously CheckAutoRun gets kicked out by that automatic task managing of Windows ...?
I found out that Wisbar does a good job.
In Wisbar/Settings/Task Management you can clearly define which
programs need to keep running in the background continuously,
even if you close all at the same time.
It does not work
Now, I thought that Wisbar (or taskmanagers in general)
would do a good job. There still is a problem.
Yes, wisbar (or some other task manager) will keep software
running in the background at startup.
But as soon as I start Internet Explorer, the software that
should keep on running in de background is closed.
No matter how I configure the Taskmanager, as soon as I
start Explorer ALL programs are closed automatically.
Does someone know what is happening here ?
Greetings,
There are many task managers out in the market with various features. Because of Battery consumption issue and Ram management, without even knowing the impact we all (including myself) just kill tasks or programmes running in the system.
We should not forget its not Windows this is android. And its suppose to run better.
So far, for me this killing task has worked well by extending battery life from 10 hours to 3 days.
This thread is dedicated to discuss all these process so all the users know what they are doing. No matter what application used.
@ Developers/ Experts please share your technical knowledge on this.
Dont kill these tasks otherwise your timescape widget will not update
Com.sonyericsson.adroid.mediascape.pluginmanager
Com.sonyericsson.adroid.timescape.pluginmanager
Com.sonyericsson.adroid.contentmanager.service.timescape
Timescape
And these tasks I have eliminated from kill list as my phone start to become non responsive.
Com.google.android.providers.settings
Com.andorid.packageinstaller
Settings
Com.google.android.apps.uploader
i kill package installer without any side effects. what about sns provider and service account provider? What do those do anyone know? also is it safe to kill com.sonyericsson.learningclient
Chuteboxe39 said:
i kill package installer without any side effects. what about sns provider and service account provider? What do those do anyone know? also is it safe to kill com.sonyericsson.learningclient
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I have kill all the SNS providers no problem.
I have no idea about com.sonyericsson.learningclient. right now its on my nonkill list.
And what about SemcIME and Wiper App? Do you kill them or not?
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And what about SemcIME and Wiper App? Do you kill them or not?
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SemcIME is related to sim card reading as my guess. dont kill this. I remember at times when i kill this i was unable to make calls unlill phone restart.
Wiper App add to non kill list. I have no idea what it dose. but im sure it helped me to extend my battery from the day I stopped killing it.
How about this article:
geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
I, as an Android-newbie, found it very informative. I'm not using any task killer at all, and can extend my X10's battery life up to 3 days.
The TL;DR version:
* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when more memory is needed.
* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do.
* Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you haven’t returned to it in a long time.
* Most services (while possibly running in the background) use very little memory when not actively doing something.
* A content provider is only doing something when there is a notification for it to give. Otherwise it uses very little memory.
* Killing a process when it isn’t ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when it’s needed again.
* Because a task is likely running in the background for a reason, killing it will only cause it to re-spawn as soon as the activity that was using it looks for it again. And it will just have to start over again.
* Killing certain processes can have undesirable side effects. Not receiving text messages, alarms not going off, and force closes just to name a few.
* The only true way to prevent something from running at all on your phone would be to uninstall the .apk.
* Most applications will exit themselves if you get out of it by hitting “back” until it closes rather than hitting the “home” button. But even with hitting home, Android will eventually kill it once it’s been in the background for a while.
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I wouldn't go and kill any unfamiliar processes: Android handles processes in a far better way than Windows does.
I agree with the writer of the above article: try to figure out which apps/processes are consuming too much of your battery (i.e. CPU cycles, not necessarily RAM). Most of your problems could be caused by bad-programmed apps...
Which brings us to the following question: could it be that SE has put some bad-written programmes on the X10 themselves? I guess so
Hello guys, ive juz got my iconia a few days ago.. its my first time using android. Its relatively new to me compared to apple. Ive notice that a few apps is running without me opening e application. is tis normal? ive tried to force close.. but after awhile it comes back up n running again?
What apps?
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burnout69 said:
Hello guys, ive juz got my iconia a few days ago.. its my first time using android. Its relatively new to me compared to apple. Ive notice that a few apps is running without me opening e application. is tis normal? ive tried to force close.. but after awhile it comes back up n running again?
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Generally speaking, yes, this is normal.
Those apps are put into standby and some apps run automatically like Systemupdater, Acer Sync etc... Other apps, like Photo Browser 3D, nemoPlayer, even Maps etc - will start but not in the sense of 'start' like we would think. They are ready states (as I understand them) and in some cases will stay ready or swap out when resources are getting light and the OS needs more headroom.
"By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application's components need to be executed, then shuts down the process when it's no longer needed or when the system must recover memory for other applications."
So even if you don't launch and application manually, it could easy start up on it own if a component of it was executed (on some level).
It is not recommended to force-close applications unless the application is causing problems - in which case, uninstalling it is the better option.
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Generally speaking, yes, this is normal.
Those apps are put into standby and some apps run automatically like Systemupdater, Acer Sync etc... Other apps, like Photo Browser 3D, nemoPlayer, even Maps etc - will start but not in the sense of 'start' like we would think. They are ready states (as I understand them) and in some cases will stay ready or swap out when resources are getting light and the OS needs more headroom.
"By default, every application runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the application's components need to be executed, then shuts down the process when it's no longer needed or when the system must recover memory for other applications."
So even if you don't launch and application manually, it could easy start up on it own if a component of it was executed (on some level).
It is not recommended to force-close applications unless the application is causing problems - in which case, uninstalling it is the better option.
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yes those r the apps that has been running.. tried closing them by using android task manager.. for a moment it will juz start again..by uninstalling them, wats the risks of running my other apps? will it caused any problems?
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yes those r the apps that has been running.. tried closing them by using android task manager.. for a moment it will juz start again..by uninstalling them, wats the risks of running my other apps? will it caused any problems?
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I (though others would say the opposite) do not recommend uninstalling anything that came preloaded with the tablet. Both for stability reasons and future updates - if however you're really REALLY obsessing over getting back a dozen megabytes of allocated memory from those minor apps then you're going to have to go the whole long road down root avenue and backing up those applications etc ad nauseam. You can get all the info you need throughout the forum.
My advice is, don't worry about those native apps running in the background - if the OS needs more resources it will manage them on it's own. It's not like Windows where you can kill running programs or processes willy-nilly from the task manager when you want to free up memory - in Android, the OS does this as it sees fit, on its own. If it wants more juice, it will make more juice available to itself.
I had the same issues.. a quick fix i ran was to root my tablet and install "bloat freezer" from the market.
it simply stops the processes from running, so your not un-installing them just stopping them from running, Im now seeing my free ram running at appx 65% free at any time which is much better than before.
If i do want to use skype or whatever i simply unfreeze them and freeze them again when finished..
hope this helps..
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just to let you know i have frozen all of the acer bundled apps
Freezing apps is an option. I don't do that so I have no experienced opinion as far as that goes.
i agree with gamma
These apps are not really running. They are connected to context menues.like when younare in camera app and you click the share image menus.you will see the apps that can share the image such at Facebook Picasso dropbox and so on.these are the apps setting in static mode.I know in nor totally correct but its the closes I can do to describe.if your statement needs the memory or CPU cycles these apps might be using it will shut them down..I have tested this theory by launching many apps and logging processes.
task killers running in the background work against the built in memory and resources management's.
Good luck.if im wrong anyone please correct the post.just do so nicely
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yyiinn said:
I had the same issues.. a quick fix i ran was to root my tablet and install "bloat freezer" from the market.
it simply stops the processes from running, so your not un-installing them just stopping them from running, Im now seeing my free ram running at appx 65% free at any time which is much better than before.
If i do want to use skype or whatever i simply unfreeze them and freeze them again when finished..
hope this helps..
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just to let you know i have frozen all of the acer bundled apps
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That does freeze those apps.but if the system needed that ram it would do the same.it gives foreground ape priority.if that or those apps need the resources.the system will kill the lowest priority apps.
Of course thee are some rogue apps that do not play fair.if you find them then uninstall.I use advanced task killer.but never let it run in background.just can launch it lookat what's running. Then close it it will not restart itself
I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
yyiinn said:
I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
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You can freeze those apps with titanium backup.just remember to unfreeze before you do OTA. update
yyiinn said:
I understand the memory management. But i would rather applications especially skype to run when i want and not as the system see's fit. Social jogger was another culprit they were my biggest bug bears..
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Those apps are not running. The may be started at boot but only partially, then they are "paused" and cached for quicker loading if needed.
Android does an awesome job at memory management and will kill apps when it needs more ram.
I dont like it either since i dont use social jogger, nemo player, acer sync and many more so you have two options
If you are rooted flash a rom without all that crap in it.
Or
Use a file manager with root access and file manipulation like 'rootexplorer' and rename those files so they wont run.
I rename them to socialjogger.apk.bak
Just adding the .bak to the filename is enough.
But dont piss around you can smoke the tablet and have to do a factory reset via recovery if you mess with the wrong file.
Just post a list of thing you wish to remove and we will be happy to let you know whats ok or not.
Oh and btw... the ipad runs a crap ton of stuff in the bckground too, apple jst desnt show you like android does.
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hey there,
it started when i saw the gps-icon in the statusbar always on. i have gps
always turned on (for foto-location tags etc). but it was active (the icon was
in the statusbar) only when it was needed. but now, when i have gps on, it
seems to be in use all the time...
so i started to look for the paricular app/process. but closing apps via
taskmanager AND closing processes via settings/apps/running did not end
the usage of gps. i only closed processes when i was sure, it would not hurt.
like facebook or byTheWay.
then i found my real problem: why are those processes running anyway? and
why do they use so much memory? e.g facebook. why 40mb? just for
notifications? do i need a running process for notificaions at all? and why do
the processes come back when i kill them? especially wifi-sharing? i never use
that and never turned it on in the settings (maybe once for testing). why does
it need two processes.
maybe someone can help solving a little bit of this "mystery"...
thx,
kws
is it that nobody can help me because its too complicated.
or that nobody wants to help me, because it is discussed already in other places.
if the latter, plz point me in the right direction.
tyvm!
kws
Try startup manager it worked for me you can get it from android markets its free for a bit. let's you take complete control of start up processes. I'm running galaxy s2 on stock Rom